The Doom of Valyria Explained ASOIAF Lore
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In my head canon, there are still dragons in Valyria, when Balerion the black dread flew there with Aerea Targaryen, he returned to kings landing with scars and was still bleeding. A fair question is what are the dragons eating? Each other, the cannibal is a prime example of how this is feasible and it would explain why Balerion was attacked upon arriving there. I also think the reason he brought the young Targaryen girl, and why she returned with dragon wyrms inside her is he wanted to breed more Targaryens and restart Old Valyria but he didn't exactly know how they did it, so it failed.
Did she not return with literal worms with human faces inside her - not dragon wyrms? I think Valyria after the Doom is corrupted beyond belief and the residual blood magic that remains after the fallout taints everything in and around the peninsula. That's why there are so many horrors there. The closest city to the Smoking Sea (Mantarys) has a sinister reputation and is rumored to be an entire city full of freaks. Tyrion sees a two-headed slave from Mantarys and Dany's envoys that go to Mantarys to earn their support are returned to her as pickled heads in jars. My head canon was always that dragons are originally from Asshai and were only in Valyria because the Valyrians are the sole people who could tame them through magic. But who can say? Balerion definitely got into it with something at least as big as he was.
Same here but I wish that part about Aerea impregnating herself with the Firewryms to make more dragons is not true 🤢
Aerea did not intentionally impregnate herself..hell she probably doesn’t even know about how pregnancy works because she was too young. Too young and inexperienced to control Balerion. They went to Valyria because Aerea wanted to go home back to Kingslanding..away from Dragonstone. But Balerion misinterpreted home to Valyria.
@@jisooschrist9717 I forgot that part about misinterpreting home but you're absolutely right! And I don't think Aerea did it to herself, but Balerion put her in a place where those things were used to make more dragon people or something, dragons have some kind of intelligence so my thinking was he was trying to use her to make more dragon riders as he lived there before the doom and may have witnessed or even experienced how the black magic happened that bonded humans to dragons
@@DngrDan They may have been humanoid, I could be wrong, I definitely agree with you though about Asshai! The shadow lands and grey waste are a great place for them to live and weird stuff has always happened in Asshai, they're close to Sothoryos which on it's eastern most point has the wyverns also and who knows what's on Ulthos
There’s also the theory that the Faceless Men brought about the Doom. The slaves in Valyria would pray for the deaths of their masters, some of which were the mages controlling the Fourteen Flames. When too many of these mages were killed off, the Fourteen Flames erupted.
I like this theory the most. I think the other theories are plausible but this one is the most fun. I think it would also make sense though if you have this massive empire the slaves who actually built the empire would eventually grow such an animosity for their masters, they would eventually revolt in some way or the other.
I really like this. It makes sense. They probably didn't even want the Doom to occur. Just their master's deaths
I think with their strict code it would be pretty hard to justify their existence afterward if they inadvertently killed off the entire population of Valyria
That IS implied when a faceless Man is telling Arya their origin story. He Said they Gave the Gift of death tô slaves in the Mines, and Arya asks why they didn't kill the masters instead. Tô which he replies that eventually they would bring the Gift to the masters as well. But that IS a tale a for anothrr time
It's pretty obvious Doom was caused by the children of the forest. GRRM created one race that can summon cataclysmic magic, the children, and they've done it many many times in an attempt to protect their world.
Their magic created the others as a weapon to fight the men, race of ice. Now there's also a mysterious race of fire, Valyrians. We know first hero met with the children and that gave the answer to end the Long Night.
When you connect the dots, children's magic created a new race of fire, the first Valyrian, Son of Fire, also known as Azor Ahai. A promise was made that the weapon will be destroyed after the Long Night ends in order to prevent a similar runaway effect that happened with the others.
Valyrian Freehold was formed in secret far away from the greenseers sight. It also only came to existence directly after the Long Night, a bit strange coincidence, _almost like those two events are mysteriously linked_ .
Valyrians conquered Essos which resulted in the Andal migration to Westeros. This also meant stories of the magical dragon riders in the East finally reached the deepest forests in the west, and children finally learnt of the betrayal how the weapon wasn't destroyed after all.
They gathered together and did their modus operandi, blood sacrificed their entire race to the brink of extinction summoning the Doom over Valyria.
But one family survived.
"nobody has ever been there and returned"
Euron Greyjoy be like 👀👀
Didn't jorah also go and that's how he got grey scale??
@@osky529 no that’s a show thing
@@Rodneygonazaled but the author of the books was a producer so wouldn't it make it cannon
@@osky529 no that’s not how it works
Euron is full of shit.
He says he took the Dragonbinder from Valyria when he actually stole it from those mages.
Make a show about this! The freaking Targaryens as the bottom of the food chain family would be awesome to see, a whole new society and magic still actively in the world? Awesome!!!
Yes 😭😭😭❤
Technically such an eruption could cause a mass extinction event worldwide. A magical explanation as to why 14 volcanoes going off as one and its destruction being relatively localized can only be the reason.
It did trigger the century of blood, where the Dothraki rode into Western Essos to raid. Times of turmoil are historically linked to environmental disasters that causes crops to fail and such. It's likely that 14 volcanoes caused such climate changes that lead to migration of people, thus also leading to conflict.
@@Paal2005I remember in Victarion's travels he also passed by the ruins of cities that got wiped off by the tsunamis caused by the Doom.
So Valyria is basically pompeii
I think Valyrian Empire is directly inspired from the Roman Empire and the doom is totally inspired by Pompei
@@sasoriae5225 it's more like Atlantis
@@jeambeam3173 Atlantis has nothing to do with volcanoes, it just sank like other lands have done. There's lots of underwater buildings around India (I think) and a fortress in Constanta Romania is mostly underwater. Denmark is also sinking rn.
@@BananLord Still, the parallels to Atlantis are there. Mainly in the a hyper advanced, mighty empire being destroyed by a natural disaster within the span of a single day -department.
@@highlyopinionated5611 Pompeii was also destroyed in a day by the Vesuvius' eruption
Sounds like it was done by someone. If it was kept at bay by mages, then one could argue removing said mages would create this catastrophe. Probably be a dope movie or mini/limited series.
It could be done by someone, there are theories of faceless man being behind the doom. And the faceless man also told a origin story about themselves that support this theory.
@@aaribqureshi1625 Doom was caused by the children of the forest, they're the only race GRRM gave the power to summon cataclysmic magic. Doom fits every part of cataclysmic magic, and it's just way more epic. It doesn't mean Faceless Men weren't also involved, The House of Black and White's door is made out of weirwood.
Motive is that their magic created the Valyrians as a weapon to fight against the Others, and a promise was made to destroy the weapon after the Long Night ended. Last Hero/Son of Fire/Azor Ahai died, but somehow Valyrian blood survived.
They settled near the Fourteen Flames, mentions of the Valyrian Freehold only exist after the Long Night. As expected, they soon rose to power and dominated the entire continent.
This resulted in the Andal migration and songs of magical dragon riders in the East finally reached the deepest forests in Westeros, and children learned of this betrayal.
They did their modus operandi and blood sacrificed their entire race to the brink of extinction summoning the Doom over Valyria.
But one family survived.
@@wihdinheim0 this also seems a great theory, but i think GRRM wants to keep the cause of doom ambiguous and mysterious. So, i doubt we will ever going to know the real cause. I think doom was definitely caused by volcanoes eruption, but there was something magical or supernatural involved too. And that magic still exist there even after centuries, which keeping valyria uninhabitable even after so many years.
@@aaribqureshi1625 he wouldn't tease us with something he wouldn't reveal in the end. The exact point of Doom of Valyria is to serve as a puzzle piece that completes the entire lore, the magical piece that ties together everything. It all started when children created the others, Azor Ahai couldn't kill his children as he promised, they escaped and happy years of incest later the Doom.
@@wihdinheim0 he probably will reveal the cause of the doom in the end, but the cause in itself can be ambiguous cuz he do likes to keep some things in his stories ambiguous and leave them to he interpreted in more than one way.
Technically the pocket below Yellowstone National Park could also do this, trapping all of America beneath a deadly cloud of dust
If yellowstone erupts the whole western hemisphere is fucked
We can only hope.
unlikely because the hot spot in earths mantle is moving away before enough magma can build up so the Yellowstone will probably never erupt again
@@asorbli I fucking hope so!
@@asorbli devastating
Can you imagine all of this amazing concept comes from 1 mind 😮
He got inspired by real history
I would love to see a show about this family
Where can I see all this art!?!?! It’s beautiful.
Following I need to know also lol
you can probably find it on pinterest, everything artsy about any concept is there
There’s a book called The World of Ice and Fire
@@Gen1Demmi a lot of this art is not in that book which I do indeed have.
did daneys only convince her father and his sisters to flee or did she tell her whole house?
The Targaryens were really a minor family in Valyria i think the house was just Aenar the father, Daenys and her sister (dunno her name) and their dragons at that time
No Daenys told her Father Aenar. Then Aenar told everyone about his Daughter's prophetic vision but noone Believed this because the Targayens are only minor lords. So noone believed except the Velaryons and Celtigars. So then Finally 3 Families Targaryens, Velaryons, Celtigars along with their Entire Family, Army, Slaves, Gold and Dragons fled to Dragonstone. Interestingly the other lords of Valyria views this as Treason and Cowardice. Hence they ignored and laughed at them..
@@sasoriae5225 they were not a really minor house they are one of the ruler 40 dragonlord family/house they only average one of the 40... there is a huge difference between dragonlord house like Targaryens and normal Valyrian house like Velaryons and Celtigars...
Her father as he was the head of the targaryan house and so she saved their whole family snd a few allies all tho they tried to savd more people but no one believed them
@@tariizm1500 They were minor lords among the Dragon Riding Families.
Dragon Riders are of Highest Nobility, then followed by Navy holders, then followed by Foot Soldiers...
kinda cute how her father listened to her and just left 😭
Who does all the artwork for these?
Ai generated mostly
For your next video can you explain the Titan of Braavos
The titan of Braavos was a natural stone which the Braavosi carved into the giant statue. It has holes in it so the wind can't put it down and they create sound.
So if mages were controlling the eruption of the 14 volcanoes, how did all of them eventually erupted?
Thats the mystery
Some theory sait the Mages get kill & Faceless man sabotage the sistem of Volcano for make the doom
I'd love to read a book set during the Hite of valyria following ppl not just accounts
i would like to see an entire series depicting this freehold . imagine seeing dragons bigger than balerion flying the skies. now thats a sight for sore eyes!
this needs to be a movie
Despite knowing that the Vulcanos were gonna explode without the mages holding it in place, the Valeryans didn't establish new strongholds or places of evacuation... wonderful...
i really wish they will make some kind of flashback or a special episode where they show the life in Valyria just so we can get to see more dragons
I want to see the version where valyria isn't destroyed would be damn good and gramd
Anyone else feeling like this was based off what could happen with the Pacific Rim Volcanoes or is it just me
Btw, the PLANET would've changed for literal centuries.
I want a series on old Valyria! The targaryens weren't even the most wealthy or powerful family I can just imagine the odd architecture and art and gosh the sizes and types of dragons must have been magnificent balerion was the only dragon to see it and he's the strongest and biggest dragon of westeros recorded history (not including the cannibal who knows when he moved to westeros)
I didn’t know thanks cool bud
Howland Reed, with his shotgun, caused the doom, and probably moon boy, for all I know.
There had to be other families that made it out besides house Targaryen.
Houses Celtigar and Velaryon come to mind.
the maeges had just one job 😅
Atlantis
Ironic it is No one is Higher than Death No Man Nor Empire' Nor Kingdom
the most impressing of Martin's authorship is all the books he has read to "be inspired "by...
With them arches, I'd say its roman empire
pov: the one who built the city
14 active volcainos???
perfect spot to build the city, nothing bad can happen😂🤣
In the real world, people stay near volcanoes because volcanic ashes are an excellent fertilizer
Valyria looked so beautiful, such a terrible thing that it just fell to nothing like that.
I just wonder since the Targaryens were minor lords would that mean there were dragons that dwarfed the like of balerion?
I mean, why did they even live near such a dangerous place?? Crazy guys
Because.... dragons.
The fourteen volcanoes were like the power source for the dragons. The closer they grew to them, the stronger they were
The dragons were stronger at the volcanoes, so was magic.
Alt-shift-X but in shorts😂
I haven’t read the books, but do they say where the Stone Disease came from?
It comes from a rhoynar prince. I think his name was Garyn. Durin a war between Valyria and the rhoynar, they managed to kill 3 dragons. The valyrians responded sending 300 dragons and killed all the rhoynar along the river Rhoyne. Destroying every ehoynar city. Garyn prayed to the Mother Rhoyne and send a curse to the valyrians. That curse is that disease.
If I'm not mistaken, that's how the origin of the disease is explained.
@@joshheirmann7455 thanks, that does sound creepy!!
@@joshheirmann7455 yup thats the Fact. in Second war of Rhoynar. on Historical book song of ice & Fire. + Nymeria who survive refuge to Dorne
Me wondering what happened to new valyria and was they're a freedom mage that devised a plan to free all the slaves by eruption and making the doom of valyria
how do dragons get hurt by fire
Could the doom be a civil war?
That's why I R.R. Martain. Valyira is completely shrouded in mystery where every theory about what's there could be right.
Personally, I think that the half-human things that the flesh pits created live there and kill any and everything that lands on those shores.
I also think that the Dragonlords knew about the Long Night and were creating such monsters for their army against the dead. That would explain why they created Dragonstone long before the Targaryens went there, and there was a beacon in Oldtown, which the Hightowers covered over with their white tower. I think that was a beacon that would alight itself when the Long Night happened, signaling the Valyrians that it was time to attack.
Today we call that the volcano explosion of valyria
They should make a show of old valarya
Literally makes no sense that a bunch dragonriders couldn't escape a volcanic eruption but okay 😂
“The Flames burned so hot and high, that even dragons burned.”
📀THIS IS BETTER THAN LAST $EASON OF 🗡G.O.T.🗻
Better story than bran the broken
it was never the valyrian empire its valyrian freehold and the capital is valyria
The Valiryan Political sistem was base on Roman Empire they Also have emperor name Aurion from House Belaerys. who missing after march 3000 soldier & His dragon for Excavate Valirya after the doom.
@@darellmawitjere valyrians did not have an emperor. Aurion Belaerys was a noble from the freehold who claşmed himself the emperor after the doom
Why is it dangerous to go to Valyria after the doom ?
Maybe because they left, there wasn't enough magic to hold back the destruction?
nah, the targaryans were essentially nothing in valyria they were a very minor house that held nearly no power, their movement wouldnt have really changed anything in valyria
@@v_cpt-phasma_v689True, the valyrians didn't give an f when the targaryens left to valyria's most deserted outpost
@@arunakoyanbron8927They laughed the Targs out the door basically
What if the Targaryens actually caused the Doom while trying to escape the Doom?
no. They have dream about the doom even Tell to other Dragonlord family but they moked The Targaryen just because they minor among 42 Dragonlord family.
@@darellmawitjere There are actually very strong hints that the Targaryens caused the doom on purpose because their "Freehold" was so vile and evil with black magic slavery and blood magic sacrifices for everything.
There is a very good video about it on RUclips.
@@yazanmowed Targaryen was Mid in Valirya their Posision was like Tarly. event House Belaerys was more strong Political power than Targaryen
@@yazanmowedTargaryens literally had no power nor the guts to go against the full might of valyria. It was far too risky for them. Also, the targaryens were also among those who benefited from black magic and slavery so your point doesn't make any sense
Can You imagine a anime about this 🤔😃
That would have been epic as HELL. Humans can't keep up with a show for a long time that's why we need Anime like Demon Slayer.
Nothing is more important than the longevity of our name. Our legacy must go on, that’s why we inbreed and also settled right here. Right where we’re TRAPPED by FOURTEEN VOLCANOES. Because symbolism is more important than safety. 🤣🤣🤣
Why are show only people commenting here? 90% of the books never made it to screen and a huge % was changed for BS. If you haven’t read the books at least once please don’t speculate based on your show watching
They have a right to speculate as does anyone else, don't start gatekeeping
Imagine gatekeeping a comment section.. let them say whatever they want and enjoy the books or show as they'd like. Don't be pathetic
You're such a toxic fan
You all know this is not real right. You all talk about this like it's actual history
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The waffle house has found its new host
Just imagine if more valerian’s would’ve left with the Targaryen‘s what would’ve happened to Westeros? 😍😍😍
I imagine they would've hated westeros for being the backwater it was 😅😂
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