94% of Players Are Abusing This 'META' Set... | Nes Reacts

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  • @Nessaiga
    @Nessaiga  Год назад +6

    Reacting to Godzilla's video talking about rallying cry being an issue in PvP. I do agree with him on some things... but I feel his balance suggestions are very confusing and misplaced at different points throughout this video. No hate towards Godzilla at all, he does a lot for the ESO community and this is just me sharing my opinions vs his.
    Godzilla's video: ruclips.net/video/74kCBziBpQw/видео.html

    • @send_you2_spawn
      @send_you2_spawn Год назад

      He is Lost since he have done a quit vídeo from eso on ps and after 2 weeks he have bought a PC to play eso ; and now no One play it ; is a lot of money on a single game thats why he are confusing ; and the best example he gives to defend what he says was compare hundings/Julianos against rally cry ; hundings/Julianos are outdated since nma release and he try to compare with rally cry op

  • @prisonmykee2595
    @prisonmykee2595 Год назад +5

    He talked about rallying cry about being op for being stat dense as if it was in the same ball park as proc sets being op. I rather fight against rallying all day than cheese ball proc sets. Just remember boys you still have to apply skill with rallying cry while you dont have to apply skill with a lot of proc sets. Think of mara’s first iteration or sloads first iteration or caluurions first iteration or vipers sting first iteration as an example etc.

  • @kennisrogers2585
    @kennisrogers2585 Год назад +18

    It's only nightblades that feel rally cry is overpowered. No one runs rally cry because of dot dks, stam sorcs, necros or wardens. They run it because of the increased volume of khajit nbs in pvp. No other class is hitting close to 20k bows. There is a direct correlation between the two. I can bet that if crit damage nightblades receive a nerf, there will be a decrease in rally cry. With khajit nightblades/gankers being the biggest threat to 1vx'ing, it's a no-brainer that people are incorporating rally cry to every possible build. Nerf nightblades, and you will start to see more back bar set diversity.

    • @AllThingsFascinate
      @AllThingsFascinate Год назад +5

      Yeah seriously. When the whole community runs an entire 5 piece to counter a single class, that's a huge problem.

    • @Slags1204
      @Slags1204 Год назад

      @@AllThingsFascinate Agreed. But it is also worth mentioning that as a brawler nightblade one trick on a build that specifically invests in burst damage through crit. Rallying Cry does not impact my gameplay experience dramatically (or frankly, at all).

    • @Nessaiga
      @Nessaiga  Год назад +8

      Even nightblades don’t care about Rallying Cry too because they have so much damage it doesn’t matter to them

    • @kennisrogers2585
      @kennisrogers2585 Год назад +3

      @Nes ESO which is why it's absurd that godzilla cares. He's asking for a rally cry nerf while showing a video of him hitting 17k bows at 600 cp in sustain sets. The gameplay is showing WHY we need rally cry, and if anything, WHY it could deserve a buff. 😂 I like him, though. Very talented player.

    • @AllThingsFascinate
      @AllThingsFascinate Год назад +1

      @@Nessaiga As a beginner player, getting hit for 20k plus incap/killer's blades' and bow it's, it's hard to understand how night blades are balanced right now. Not stopping me from having fun, but dang.

  • @Mayhem-
    @Mayhem- Год назад +4

    Rallying cry is a good back bar choice… But I feel that anyone having an issue with this set has quickly forgotten the bomb meta (that we are kinda still in)
    - Individual players having a tiny bit more damage and crit resist which are a problem for 1-2 people at a time
    - Various ‘bombers’ such as masters carve with plaguebreak, or necrotic dark convergence bombers, or rushing agony etc… All able to nuke an entire group with non-class abilities and basic AOE spam.
    Sure you can argue that you need to build tanks but this bomb meta of being punished for any guards / newer players wandering near you is stupid. There are much worse sets in the game than Rallying cry, so whilst there are some points in his video, it comes across from a solo NB point of view without addressing any bigger picture of cyro.

  • @MrKeysjimmy
    @MrKeysjimmy Год назад +4

    I think it would be cool if you had a % healing debuff that scaled with the size of your group,

  • @_RazeGaming
    @_RazeGaming Год назад +2

    This topic got some heat huh. Good to see other’s opinions on this. I made a comment on his video that blew up, but had vastly different replies on opinions on it. I stand true to my original statement in that it’s a counter set, directly countering crit builds. Slap on a non crit build with Malacath and Rallying Cry won’t save your ass. Good video regardless

    • @Slags1204
      @Slags1204 Год назад +1

      I think this neglects the very central fact that Rallying isn't saving your ass anyway?

  • @invictuous9222
    @invictuous9222 Год назад

    I’m so glad I found this video. I really like your perspective on why Godzilla’s video makes no sense.
    I also realized wearing full impen basically does nothing a long time ago and I now run 3 reinforced and the rest well fitted

  • @llElLoboll
    @llElLoboll Год назад +3

    I could write an essay on the subject of cross healing, but the main point is that yes it is unbelievably broken and has been for a very long time. IMO there needs to be scaling negatives that start coming into play when you add more and more players to a group. Just like how rallying scales down as it affects more people, I think that mechanic is fantastic and should be applied to things like skill cost and healing effectiveness as you add more people to groups or based on how many friendly players are within a certain range.

    • @zBeeKing
      @zBeeKing Год назад

      That just disincentivizes players to group up. ZOS will never do that.

    • @llElLoboll
      @llElLoboll Год назад

      @@zBeeKing I'm not talking some insane cost that runs your rss out after one skill use. You are right though, zos won't do anything, so in the end it doesn't matter.

    • @dcub6251
      @dcub6251 Год назад

      Yea let's punish groups like that in an MMO 🙄 this is why, after 7-8 years now, I'm still suggesting to bring back dynamic ultimate. It gives a leg up for the small scalers without demolishing the group experience. You don't have to have idiots wanting nothing but tiny groups in a giant open world mmo map

  • @Slags1204
    @Slags1204 Год назад +2

    I am equally of multiple minds about Zilla's take. My basic thesis is that if rallying cry is making this meta tankier (and not as exciting as a squishier one) by raising average and aggregate critical resistances, the impact should be felt noticeably by crit builds (which, in my experience, is not the case). If rallying cry is making the meta squishier by encouraging players to not build exceptionally defensively by reducing the chance they will be one shot by a lucky crit (and therefore allowing them to drop a defensive set or heavy armor pieces), then for the love of god don’t touch it even if it is ‘unbalanced.’ Because even if it is unbalanced (compared to other set options) it may yet not be unbalancing to the metagame, as a whole. Set balance should serve game balance and not the other way around. And if the issue is that rallying cry's dominance constrains build diversity, just raise everyone's built in crit resist (as Blasty suggested).
    Anyway here are my loose unconnected thoughts:
    1) Rallying cry is tremendously stat dense both in terms of the five-piece bonus and the fact that it can be back barred. Compared to alternatives, it far outstrips its competitors when it comes to min-maxing stat values. It is more than likely overturned in terms of the sheer amount of crit-resist it gives.
    2) That said, is it problematic? I see certain sets (like Mara’s), the difference in % bonuses granted by damage and defensive CP, and the remaining ease of stacking cross-heals as far more significant contributors to the tankier meta we find ourselves in at the moment.
    And this list itself incomplete without mentioning the absolute gutting of three of the game’s six classes which makes solo outnumbered PvP on those specs excruciatingly difficult: Sorc’s healing and slow suffocation to power creep, Necro’s healing without compensating buffs in other areas and templar’s whole class identity. I’d argue that a given game equilibrium is tankier if you can only kill people on three of the game’s classes (and often times only on one iteration of that class, as is the tragic tale of traditional magDK).
    If Rallying Cry is meta-disrupting enough to pose and problem and merit conversation (over far more pressing issues), we are forced to question why two of the only three viable solo classes this patch can be successfully built as a crit specs.
    3) Relatedly, my personal experience just doesn’t track with the issues Godzilla raises. Cards on the table, I am a brawler nightblade one trick pony. I have been playing a brawler magblade playstyle since I started PvPing a little over a year ago. That said, one could rightly point out I haven’t had as much experience on the game as more credentialed voices in this conversation (especially compared to Nes or Godzilla).
    However, I am also on a build which explicitly invests into crit and crit damage at the expense of other sources of stats. I front bar a set that gives increased critical damage (Gourmand), I run two axes and I am a khajit as well. I, also, full disclosure, run rallying cry on my backbar. Critical resistance dramatically impacts my damage. Classes that do not typically run higher critical resistance (Roller sorc, DK etc) eat higher spectral arrows and the amount of critical resistance my opponent might have is immediately noticeable (I hit a 32K spectral bow off a 500 ult bal proc the other day with incapacitating strike). Even if rallying cry is as nefariously widespread as Godzilla implies, my critical damage output has never been better.

    • @Slags1204
      @Slags1204 Год назад

      tl;dr might Zilla be a little salty that he took a 24K speccy to the noggin from my rallycry brawler?

    • @nomeat
      @nomeat Год назад +1

      Tldr. Real talk why they gut my dark cloak like that 😭. *typo

    • @Slags1204
      @Slags1204 Год назад

      @@nomeat YOU DAMN RIGHT YOU DAMN FUCKIN RIGHT

    • @slowmotion2464
      @slowmotion2464 Год назад +1

      Impen fine bruh, invig needs buff lulll

    • @slowmotion2464
      @slowmotion2464 Год назад

      @@nomeat dark cloak still broken nerf more 🤣🤣🤣

  • @SonofGod1980
    @SonofGod1980 Год назад +3

    Honestly, solo 1vX'n has gotten tougher

  • @steven20653
    @steven20653 Год назад +2

    We need hybridization to stop being a thing and then for pvp to be more of a rock, paper, scissor thing. You want to be tanky, fine your heals and damage are worse. You want to be a glass cannon, then your ability to take a hit and heal is worse. You want to be a healer, then your damage and damage reduction is less. Have it on a scale where for each piece directly impacts the others negatively and I think pvp would be more diverse and enjoyable.
    It won’t happen as I really believe we are in the swan song portion of eso. As Bethesda gets closer to Elder Scrolls 6 and zos to their next MMO we are going to see the player base drop off and the game stop receiving and meaningful updates while they let it die.

  • @shotgun3847
    @shotgun3847 Год назад +2

    You sayed exactly what I thought in the first secs 🤣 I hit on my blade still 10k crit Dizzying Swing on Rallying guys

  • @Eso_lags
    @Eso_lags Год назад +4

    its impossible to believe he has an unbiased opinion on this. Even if he really is looking at it from both sides, it will come off a certain way because he is a nightblade main. If someone else made this video i would disagree still, but ya it just seems a certain way coming from someone who mains nightblade and plays that high crit damage play style. And i was also very confused why he, as a small scale player, would come at this set when there are so many worse issues. Idk i think maybe its slightly over tuned, but i think the answer is to buff other sets, increase the reduction it gets when you are grouped, and add more sets that change based on group number.

  • @Sorryunowin
    @Sorryunowin Год назад

    Idk which patch they changed malevolent offering but that ability used to kill nb’s now it actually heals yourself and teammates

  • @ethanward3912
    @ethanward3912 Год назад +2

    Yeah don't care for the creator anymore, he doesn't put out any actual useful or entertaining content any more. He got really upset when I spit facts and opinions hahaha he couldn't handle it, also its absolutely hilarious he's running nb while making this video literally emotionally ranting. 😂

  • @zBeeKing
    @zBeeKing Год назад +1

    Battle spirit should cap crit dmg to 90% ish. The current 125% in pve is fine, but too much in pvp.

  • @oscarovegren
    @oscarovegren Год назад +2

    80-90% of SOLO players probably running rallying cry. This probably means that 5% of all players (including everyone in zergs and ballgroups) are running rallying cry.

    • @Nessaiga
      @Nessaiga  Год назад

      Ball groups are still running rallying cry because the mechanic of more ppl in group = less of a buff from the set doesn’t have enough of a drop off. If you are in a 12 man rallying cry should go down to 0 on the bonus

    • @oscarovegren
      @oscarovegren Год назад

      @@Nessaiga yeah but only one in the ballgroup was my point (not 80-90% of the players in the ballgroup)

  • @ThePikadru
    @ThePikadru Год назад +2

    What did I just watch. I normally agree with Zilla no disrespect though but wtf is this just….. WHAT? Lmao he’s just going on everything based on straight single 1vx this video is super misleading

  • @slowmotion2464
    @slowmotion2464 Год назад +2

    As a magNB main I can say rally cry isn't enough impen, the ability to reach 140-160% crit dmg completely negates the set it's really not that good 🙄

    • @nomeat
      @nomeat Год назад +1

      Weren’t you in FBDS discord 😂

    • @Slags1204
      @Slags1204 Год назад

      oMotion spitting absolute factoids

    • @slowmotion2464
      @slowmotion2464 Год назад

      @@Slags1204 imagine if bow proc still gave crit dmg rather than 300 wpn/spell 🙃

  • @cartercdw7270
    @cartercdw7270 Год назад

    problem for me is zos giving out free stats for no reason, stripping the already diminished skill-gap in tamriel. rallying cry is a whole 2017 build in one set that you can one bar(julianos and impreg). other examples of zos giving free stats would be adding minor resolve to vigor or adding passive major protection to revealing flare. warden piercing cold passive granting 12% dmg done with an ice staff equipped(flame staff gives 10% damage and thats only to single target dmg). olo/spc being weaker than a 1pc is also rediculous(serpent coil). all this being said my greatest enemy in tamriel is the undeath vampire passive.. 30% uncounterable dmg mit. during a time with the greatest potential for build diversity, it would seem as though everyone is bundled in the same brainless cornball build. but what do i know? im just a roleplayer😮‍💨

  • @ethanward3912
    @ethanward3912 Год назад +3

    I said it on his video and it remains true to him, he is more of a problem to eso pvp then the actual sets. People like him is why every good set gets nerfed to the ground period.

  • @Smerknerb
    @Smerknerb Год назад

    The problem isn’t crit damage either. The problem is everyone is too tank and can just sit back bar healing then pop a burst combo and kill a glass cannon tanker Oooorrrr you just fight for 20min because neither of you can kill each other

  • @Masheen
    @Masheen Год назад

    The fact that he’s playing Nightblade in the background says it all…

  • @AllThingsFascinate
    @AllThingsFascinate Год назад

    How to: nerf nightblade burst damage by 20%

  • @Johndersarrrr
    @Johndersarrrr Год назад

    Can you make that tank build please?

  • @MrWingzeroo
    @MrWingzeroo Год назад

    Also I know I made a comment earlier but I gotta add one. Zilla is saying the game is too easy and wants to nerf himself. Five head play

  • @kajuncage9580
    @kajuncage9580 Год назад +2

    Lol this is funny ! It’s almost like you are trying to find something wrong with what he is saying but you are not 😂

  • @MrWingzeroo
    @MrWingzeroo Год назад +1

    I think he has the right idea of what direction the meta needs to go, but the changes are a little bit random and not in line with what he’s saying.
    I agree that it is unhealthy for everyone to be running the same set. It’s why the fury and 7th legion/bone pirate meta was nerfed and why the eternal/ vigor health recovery meta was implemented.
    I agree with you though other sets need to be buffed.

    • @Nessaiga
      @Nessaiga  Год назад +1

      having little build diversity does suck but the game will always come down to a handful of sets because ppl will always use the best options. if a set isnt on par with the best sets then it wont be used

  • @lukazmmaster986
    @lukazmmaster986 Год назад

    The issue is clearly the hots

  • @heartstoppa4607
    @heartstoppa4607 Год назад +2

    Rallying cry isn’t the problem atm nightblades are

  • @blastmyship6501
    @blastmyship6501 Год назад +1

    I think the idea of buffing group buff sets is idiotic like ball groups are already strong i kinda agree with zilla on bringing rallying cry down and i think all of the group sets either need a scaling down effect or flat nerf as this a major pain point across the game(big issue in pve causing the delta in players)but i also agree with u on the crit dmg front but i think just buffing the base crit resist benefits the whole pvp community whereas buffing the sets i think leans too much into group play nerfing solo players alot.if u do buff impen it needs to be a small amount as right now traits are in an okay place(not perfect).

    • @Nessaiga
      @Nessaiga  Год назад

      Yea I said when it comes to the sets I think they should buff them BUT have the rallying cry mechanic of them scaling down in groups. I also think that mechanic should scale them down to 0 in a 12 man group

    • @blastmyship6501
      @blastmyship6501 Год назад

      @@Nessaiga oh ig i just misinterpreted what u were wanting

    • @blastmyship6501
      @blastmyship6501 Год назад

      @@Nessaiga what about pve tho like i know in pvp that makes sense but pve still needs some of those buff sets and scaling it down to 0 in 12 man removes it from that.and another thing what about the sets with major/minor buffs ie moth and olo sets like that

    • @actuallysatyr
      @actuallysatyr Год назад +1

      @@blastmyship6501 the solution is battle spirit. Have all these changes be a battle spirit effect and it won’t affect pve

    • @Nessaiga
      @Nessaiga  Год назад

      @@blastmyship6501 it would only be on sets that are pvp specific like rallying cry, transmutation etc

  • @Kaluth
    @Kaluth Год назад +1

    Debunked

  • @bujuwoody
    @bujuwoody Год назад

    You are smack on with what your saying about healing couldn't say it better myself, nurf cross healing not burst healing

  • @romulusuwu1914
    @romulusuwu1914 Год назад

    nerf healing receive by players by like 80% lmao i hit buddies for 18k resist flesh on my magcro

  • @stars33dheartluvz
    @stars33dheartluvz Год назад

    Why are we watching him on your channel? Hope you are doing well. Would have preferred to have just seen your input. Finite.

    • @Nessaiga
      @Nessaiga  Год назад

      Context and it’s to showcase my opinions vs Godzilla’s. I hope you’re doing well also!

  • @BuRnSy-85
    @BuRnSy-85 Год назад +1

    It's specky bow that needs a massive nerf, there is nothing in the game, no ult not single skill that hits as hard as it does, I see people running pen builds still hitting 20k bows, there not even crit DMG builds, crit DMG is a problem but the skill itself is the main issue, I don't mind taking a 8k suprise attack buffed by crit DMG but 20k bow is just insane, rallying cry is the least of my worries it's certain skills for me, ash cloud needs looking at, corrosive needs looking at, shattering rocks needs looking at, specky bow, radiant, then heavy lightning attacks, and vamp undeath passive, all those things are way to over tuned and all need looking at.

  • @romulusuwu1914
    @romulusuwu1914 Год назад

    maras out performs rallying cry easily, nerf mara

  • @RaphX13
    @RaphX13 Год назад +1

    Ty good vid

  • @Tsuyokimi30
    @Tsuyokimi30 Год назад

    Just passing by to tell I hate Dks...

  • @suckingdickisthemostfunagi957
    @suckingdickisthemostfunagi957 Год назад

    Like someone already told him in comments, stop looking for a new topic to complain about 😂😂😂. Man’s gotta get those subs somehow 🫣🤷‍♂️