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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
  • Today’s conversation is with Rory Sutherland.
    Rory is one of the world’s leading consumer behaviour experts, the Vice Chairman of Ogilvy Advertising and an author.
    If you’ve heard Rory before you already know you’re in for a treat and if this is your first encounter with Rory then welcome to the party.
    This podcast starts at pace and doesn’t slow down and you can expect to hear about a whole host of topics including fame, how the media sets out the importance of a story, why the tax system needs to take context into account, how the UK property market is so flawed, Tiktok fame, the latest government overreach with the Hate Crime Bill in Scotland, and so much more.
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Комментарии • 23

  • @aaronyg9071
    @aaronyg9071 2 месяца назад +6

    Of the many hundreds of interviews with Rory, this is one where he seems freer with his scathing attitude. I am so here for it.

    • @ColCamBro
      @ColCamBro  2 месяца назад +2

      Love to hear that, Rory was fully unleashed - glad you enjoyed!

  • @derek_jesio
    @derek_jesio 2 месяца назад +2

    One piece of advice I would give to anyone who interviews Rory: Put your ego aside, and let Rory talk….You executed this excellently.

    • @ColCamBro
      @ColCamBro  2 месяца назад +2

      Thanks Derek, giving the guest space is a long term lesson from hosting the podcast. You're spot on, Rory will flow and as a host you just need to prompt and probe!

  • @bevnae
    @bevnae 3 месяца назад +5

    Incredible listen, valuable content and well guided. Thanks for this, get Rory back on!

    • @ColCamBro
      @ColCamBro  3 месяца назад

      Glad you enjoyed. Yes, that's absolutely the plan!

  • @oakinvesting
    @oakinvesting 4 месяца назад +4

    Top episode, could listen to him for hours and hours 👏👏👏

    • @ColCamBro
      @ColCamBro  4 месяца назад

      Thanks Gordon, 90 minutes flew past!

  • @duncanbates5361
    @duncanbates5361 28 дней назад +2

    Oh oh, this is weird, I agree with about everything Rory says. Believe me this is a first, I'm scared :)
    Regarding TikTok. it is demonised mostly because it is Chinese in origin, not for any other reason. For me, Facebook is just ads.

    • @ColCamBro
      @ColCamBro  25 дней назад

      Glad you enjoyed, Duncan!

  • @64standardtrickyness
    @64standardtrickyness 3 месяца назад +4

    Banning tiny houses is the equivalent of let them eat cake for housing.

    • @ColCamBro
      @ColCamBro  3 месяца назад +2

      it's punishing for the sake of it

  • @user-ow3lx1ww9r
    @user-ow3lx1ww9r 4 месяца назад +4

    Impossible to not laugh when Rory is calling people WANKERS.
    Loved hearing new independent thinking around property as a form
    If investment also. I think the money put in over a longer time horizon is beneficial for the economy. In the immediate term it produces income to spend but of course if you’re the kind of person buying property investments already the likelihood is you will buy more assets opposed to goods and services.
    BUT
    Porches stimulate the economy though right?

    • @ColCamBro
      @ColCamBro  4 месяца назад

      Agreed Bryce, Rory puts forward new perspectives in a way that lets you consider them and take seriously even if not in total agreement. That's a level of conversation many of us would like to see in our political arena to shape the UK going forward....but little to no chance of that!

    • @ColCamBro
      @ColCamBro  4 месяца назад

      ps buy the Porsche

  • @chrisgraythereal
    @chrisgraythereal 2 месяца назад

    As someone who lives in a van right now, and previously lived on a boat, I think Rory is missing something with his trailer park idea... You still have to pay for a place to put your mobile living solution.
    Whether it's a space in a field, or a dock in a marina, you're not getting a free pass by having some self-contained housing solution. You still have to pay for the privilege of being there.

    • @ColCamBro
      @ColCamBro  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for sharing, Chris - glad Rory's ideas have got us considering it and you're able to share the practical element. Do you prefer land or water?!

    • @chrisgraythereal
      @chrisgraythereal 2 месяца назад

      Well both are expensive! A van is cheaper to run than a boat if you're not actually travelling around in it, but as soon as you start doing nomad stuff there's a whole mess of complications to consider.
      And the world is not set up for people who don't have a fixed address. Banking, insurance, licenses, access to services, it can all be hard. Not to mention basics like where do you poop!
      Then there's the issue of popularity, or surges. If everyone feels free to move to anywhere then everywhere nice quickly fills up with nomad vehicles. I was in Tenerife this winter, finding a decent spot was hard. Too many nomads escaping the northern winter!
      A campsite in the UK will cost anything from 20 to 70 pounds a night to park, and planning permission usually restricts visitors to one month maximum. Allowing long-term stays would enable sites to maintain a steady income during winter, but councils usually oppose the idea.
      Mooring a boat in my nearest marina runs about 400euro or more per metre of boat length for the summer season. 10-12 metres is normal for a liveaboard, so minimum 4 grand in rent for six months over and above the cost of the boat. It's cheaper in winter, but you'd probably want to go somewhere warmer and less rainy, joining the migratory herd that pushes up prices wherever you go.
      If you can find a spot, you can anchor a boat away from a marina. But then you're totally off grid and need a dingy to get to shore. Where do you put it when you get to the beach? How do you get from the beach to Sainsbury's?
      And what do you do when the inevitable storm comes? You are much more "in" your environment living on a boat, attuned to tides and weather, you can't ever leave it for more than a few hours.
      Next time it's pissing down with rain and you're looking out the window, imagine if your total floorspace was 50 or 80 square feet and you barely had room to stretch your arms out. And going outside meant stepping into a puddle of mud. No washing machine, no shower, maybe even no toilet without a long walk to the facilities.
      Nomad life is a lovely romantic idea, and can be a lot of fun for a holiday, even an extended one, but is not a long-term solution for a lot of people.
      I like Rory, he has a lot of great ideas, but he obviously doesn't have direct experience of this one and I think he's missing a lot of nuance. Fun interview though and it's good to see people daring to speak the heretical truth about property prices.
      Interesting talk about the hate crime bill and social media generally, btw. I used to do content moderation for Facebook, and wrote a book about it.

    • @chrisgraythereal
      @chrisgraythereal 2 месяца назад

      I guess the key point is that bad housing is better than no housing. 100k for Rory's theoretical off-grid mobile palace, plus 20k for a bit of land in the middle of nowhere to park it on, is still out of reach for a lot of people. But a converted Luton van in a lay-by is still a place to live, still a modicum of independence and freedom, even if it's not ideal. Changes to the laws and planning regulations would make it a lot easier for people who have few alternatives. But you're up against middle class fears of gypsies and hippies, anyone who's not normal. That's a big lift politically, can't see it happening.
      I'm in a van right now because I've made a conscious decision to experiment with nomad life for a while. I do pet/house sitting, find jobs with accommodation, so for me it's more of a transport with occasional accommodation than a mobile home.
      The boat was 25 years ago, thoroughly enjoyable, and I thought about doing it again. But it does work out a lot more expensive and a lot more restrictive than a van.
      It would be different if I wanted the cruising sailor lifestyle, but I really can't be bothered with the skills development, maintenance and generall faff involved.

    • @ColCamBro
      @ColCamBro  2 месяца назад

      @@chrisgraythereal Thanks for sharing, Chris - it really doesn't feel likely politically as you say.
      I think the option for a larger cohort should be made easier, even if not for mass adoption.
      My personal expectation is for increased home building while also having a greater understanding and grasp of the UK population.

  • @jamesodell3064
    @jamesodell3064 2 месяца назад

    Rory's brother who has a heat pump for every room has a more efficient then a central system since he can adjust the temperature of each room as needed.

  • @tmkent
    @tmkent 3 месяца назад

    This is the hill I will die on - Microsoft's phone UI was head & shoulders above any other. Looked beautiful, worked beautifully. It's a shame it withered on the vine

    • @ColCamBro
      @ColCamBro  3 месяца назад +1

      haha I'm a big believer that the Market will dictate winners and loser and 9 times of of 10, it's correct. But there will always be outliers, perhaps the Microsoft phone is that?