Lylaaa! Your video about a drybrushing tray gave me an idea. I took bits of sprue and glued them to the inside of the lid of my wet pallet. Then, I primed the pallet in a couple of coats to protect it against moisture. Now whenever I paint, I can use the inside of the lid of my pallet to wipe of excess paint. There is a bit of condensation, but it generally dries after having the pallet open for a few minutes.
I build an involved drybrush palette, but after a few uses went right back to just using cardboard which seems to work better and is far easier, simpler and faster. Hope you find more use in yours!
Wonderful results. And I'm really glad you had that bit about some of the "basics" like painting down in one stroke towards to darker parts. It's that kind of small detail that really makes a difference for us beginners.
Agreed! I had been tinkering with speed paints and had tremendous success with small things like leather details but got frustrated every time I tried to apply it to skin or large areas. Thank you for including tips on brush technique and showing detail about the skin weirdness that can happen. This was exactly the sort of information I wasn't finding in other speed paint tutorials.
Thank you for showing all the steps that you take....this way how you showed it will help me to improve my painting... you are a gold for this community! 😊
Great video. I would also add, one can add a drybrushed highlight a mini after painting on their slap chop layer if they want to push their paint job a bit more. Thanks for the content!
This was great, only one thing i would add, for base coating before midcoat and highlight coat, i hit all my metals with something like duraluminum or the like, this really helps the metals pop when you apply the speed paints.
Using that purple spectrum as a slapchop base looked beautiful. Would you recommend doing things any differently for a 28-32mm mini? Might so many layers risk covering detail? Currently moving house and all my paints are packed at the moment so I can't check for myself. It's driving me mad!
You definitely don't need as many layers! I did that because the model was so big, and honestly I probably did to many layers 😂. A medium color and white world be fine!
Woah, the end results are awesome!! Also thank you for the tip on dragging the brush is a single direction, I’ve been having all sorts of annoyances with inconsistent coats and this explains why! Thanks again.
This video inspires me to try this technique. Previously I thought it gimmicky and lazy, but the way you do it, given the right subject, makes it seem more painterly, and the results are good enough for display. Thanks for a great presentation.
I feel it also helps to be prepared for that “slap chop look”! It doesn’t suit every army or model imo, especially evil or sombre looking ones. I still love it though
All slap chop is is an old art technique called "grisaille" (grey scaling) combined with glazing. It's been around in the fine art world for centuries. Nothing lazy about it unless you choose to make it lazy, which is no different to any technique. I use it all the time, because I love experimenting with undershades and zenithal.
Love the content!! I would really like to see how you did the luminous incense. Do you ever do it inverted with the light values? Ie. Brightest at the core and darker at the edges? I would really love to watch that approach. Keep up the great work. Amazing paint job as usual!!
As a total newb in this amazing world of miniature painting that is definitely something i will try from now on. Is there a video you show all the tools and potentially the work desk you have so far?
The problem I have with slapchop is the minis I want to get done quickly are the infantry/battleline/horde models and those are usually smaller or have tiny details that make it hard to drybrush. Any thoughts? I do absolutely agree and am glad you pointed out the direction of applying the speedpaint is important.
Great breakdown, I especially like the shift to using colours as the drybrushing step, rather than the pure black/white monochrome that is often recommended
Contrast paints are harder to use than i thought. I only really need a 50% water/black templar mix that i use more like a shade to finish of zenithal drybrushed black armor for my Black Templar. I'm glad that im just using regular paint for everything else.
Happy anniversary Team Mev. The color class was very insightful with the CMYK wheel. Hope that you keep sharing your vast storehouse of applied knowledge.
I've found that letting the contrast paints dry on the fidget popper is better than rinsing because contrast paints have a nasty habit of building up in drains even when thinned.
Honestly, I usually cringe away whenever a painting creator does another take on "My Chapchop" to jump on the hype. While I get the point that for a CC it is important to ride the wave because it affects the earnings, it is still annoying. With that context: I really like your video and your take! Instead of alterting a step and trying to set it up as something completly new, you instead show in an accessible way how to do things good and better. Using colored shadows is really underappreciated, especially among newer painters. The "apply in smooth strokes in one direction" tipp is basic, yetI wish many of my friends have heared earlier. It would have really saved several ruined minis. Thank you very much for the mature set up, the really good tipps you share with us! Already look forward for your next videos :)
I normally only paint for my DND, and pathfinder campaigns. And was wondering if speed paint are more for Armies or if the Army speed paints 2.0 would also work for Fantasy stuff? I mean can get like 60 colors for $250 is it worth the money. I normally paint with Kimera paints, and Vallejo. Thanks any info would be great don’t really want to waste money.
Howdo Re: speedpaints - Army Painter quietly updated their palette membranes to work with speedpaint. Only yellow seems to bleed through. It's really good.
Great Vid. I just started in the hobby and was wondering why my dry brushing has been well...ass, and lo and behold I was using paper towels. I hear cardboard works good as well, since I don't have a texture palette on hand.
Thanks for your updated tutorial - always interested in seeing different techniques and methods of application. I have an insane amount of minis to paint; Fantasy Series 1 (from blacklist games) is zenithal primed and ready, I have the Tyranids set from Leviathan about to land and heading to the EU distribution hub is Marvel Zombies all in! Slap Chop is absolutely the way to go for me - great to see some fab results being achieved! #inspirational ❤
I'm hard time deciding between circular motion or not, I get better coverage with circular sure but I have a difficult time preserving the light direction opposed to swiping it in a general light direction (adjusting a little bit for features edge directions of course). Maybe I just need more practice
when dry brushing that is. its not something I used much in the past preferring to very slowly and painstakingly glaze everything for natural looking blends
Acrylic layering needs more skill and time but gives more control. A mistake made with contrast paint can not be removed.I started using both types of colors for various purposes. I got the impression that Slapchop is most useful for big amounts models you want to use but the real art of layering is better for display pieces.
It's so funny to see what the RUclips Algorithm has done with Slap Chop, if you put that in the title it automatically gets pumped out to everyone. I'm not even hating I think everyone should use that trick LOL
Thanks for the video - how did you go about priming your Bloodborne minis? I’ve been wanting to paint mine but wasn’t sure if they’d take to regular primer
My problem with painting is that my skills are shyte, but I want well painted models XD I cannot accept what I put out, and so they inevitably get stripped. Also, I can't help but go back over areas (seeing a tiny spot i missed, the paint is a bit thin here, pooling there.. etc...) Going over the lines is brutal with speedpaints, as it creates a smudgy area that has to be completely redone. It's like I have OCD, but just for painting minis :D Anyways, cool video. I've got 3 models in the alcohol. Maybe I'll give it another shot in a few days.
We are our harshest critics, stuff I have painted I think looks crap fellow painters have said, man thats awesome. Likewise I see things friends have painted and they blow my mind, but they think they are crap.
@@LylaMev i know i watched your videos for a long time, but in my perception it feels like theres always too much white coming out from underpaint, dont get me wrong, i love your videos
Quick thing but when slap chopping you want color depth and contrast in both tone AND value. Just adding white to purple will only give you contrast in value but since the tone is the same that is much less interesting. In this case cause you are painting purple it would be much more interesting to base coat in a dark blue and then highlight in a pastel magenta so that your paint scheme warms up and changes tone and value. If you wanted to be more extreme you could base coat in a bluish turquoise and dry brush your highlights in a pastel red. A better example is when dry slap chopping red you can often base coat in purple and the dry brush your highlights in orange or even yellow.
every time I hear someone talk about the "slap chop" method of painting I instead think of this... ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=slap+chop+trinidad+
one year ago the murricans discover a painting technique with more than 100 years of used, as usual, they claim as an murrican invention ,like french fries or hamburgers, or flipflops or the wheel or the fire.... you can continue
This technique that is called "slap chop" is not new. We were painting our minatures back in the 80's using this method but it was called Grisaille. And we were using inks , glazes and pigments over the top, the technique is actually 100's of years old.
Yep. Painted like this in the late 80s 90s, think we just called it shading or underpainting though (to young to know a word like grisaille ha!). Drives me absolutely crazy that everyone is suddenly acting like it's a new technique and calling it slapchop
Wow! Thank you! As a college art professor, I know this is a not a new technique, I even talk about that in the first video I ever did in this topic. That’s why “new” Is in quotation marks.
OK, I'm really disappointed. Came here for the "As Seen on TV" Slap chop tips and I get someone massaging little plastic critters with a brush. BOOOOO!!!!! BOOOO I say!!!🤪
I love how this is basically a summary of your greatest hits/tips. Every RUclips painter should do this every year or so.
Lylaaa! Your video about a drybrushing tray gave me an idea. I took bits of sprue and glued them to the inside of the lid of my wet pallet. Then, I primed the pallet in a couple of coats to protect it against moisture. Now whenever I paint, I can use the inside of the lid of my pallet to wipe of excess paint. There is a bit of condensation, but it generally dries after having the pallet open for a few minutes.
I build an involved drybrush palette, but after a few uses went right back to just using cardboard which seems to work better and is far easier, simpler and faster. Hope you find more use in yours!
Wonderful results. And I'm really glad you had that bit about some of the "basics" like painting down in one stroke towards to darker parts. It's that kind of small detail that really makes a difference for us beginners.
Agreed! I had been tinkering with speed paints and had tremendous success with small things like leather details but got frustrated every time I tried to apply it to skin or large areas. Thank you for including tips on brush technique and showing detail about the skin weirdness that can happen. This was exactly the sort of information I wasn't finding in other speed paint tutorials.
Agreed! Going over the basics helped me grasp some things about painting I didn't quite realize would have the effect they do. Thank you very much!
Thank you for showing all the steps that you take....this way how you showed it will help me to improve my painting... you are a gold for this community! 😊
Great video. I would also add, one can add a drybrushed highlight a mini after painting on their slap chop layer if they want to push their paint job a bit more. Thanks for the content!
This is great, I’d never seen the texture tray tip before. I’ve always ended up with dusty dry brushing from using a paper towel. Thank you.
Great work refreshing us on things like not using paper towels! So key!!
This was great, only one thing i would add, for base coating before midcoat and highlight coat, i hit all my metals with something like duraluminum or the like, this really helps the metals pop when you apply the speed paints.
Using that purple spectrum as a slapchop base looked beautiful. Would you recommend doing things any differently for a 28-32mm mini? Might so many layers risk covering detail? Currently moving house and all my paints are packed at the moment so I can't check for myself. It's driving me mad!
You definitely don't need as many layers! I did that because the model was so big, and honestly I probably did to many layers 😂. A medium color and white world be fine!
As someone who wants to start speedpainting this video was really helpful in how to apply these paints.
I've watched like every speed paint video on RUclips. This might be the best one. Thank you so much.
Woah, the end results are awesome!! Also thank you for the tip on dragging the brush is a single direction, I’ve been having all sorts of annoyances with inconsistent coats and this explains why! Thanks again.
The purple color scheme looks really nice on that one! I particularly love how the effect looks on the chain!
This video inspires me to try this technique. Previously I thought it gimmicky and lazy, but the way you do it, given the right subject, makes it seem more painterly, and the results are good enough for display. Thanks for a great presentation.
I feel it also helps to be prepared for that “slap chop look”! It doesn’t suit every army or model imo, especially evil or sombre looking ones. I still love it though
All slap chop is is an old art technique called "grisaille" (grey scaling) combined with glazing.
It's been around in the fine art world for centuries. Nothing lazy about it unless you choose to make it lazy, which is no different to any technique.
I use it all the time, because I love experimenting with undershades and zenithal.
Love the content!! I would really like to see how you did the luminous incense. Do you ever do it inverted with the light values? Ie. Brightest at the core and darker at the edges? I would really love to watch that approach. Keep up the great work. Amazing paint job as usual!!
That popper toy for paint tray is brilliant I grabbed one today and it’s perfect!
Yo!! The tip about applying the paint from the side of the brush for large areas is a game changer!! Thanks, Lyla!
your video music is always nice lol. everytime im vibing
As a total newb in this amazing world of miniature painting that is definitely something i will try from now on. Is there a video you show all the tools and potentially the work desk you have so far?
The problem I have with slapchop is the minis I want to get done quickly are the infantry/battleline/horde models and those are usually smaller or have tiny details that make it hard to drybrush. Any thoughts? I do absolutely agree and am glad you pointed out the direction of applying the speedpaint is important.
I haven't painted in a while. Thanks for the inspiration to get me back in!
Welcome back!
This made me want to paint something purple really badly!! The finished product looks so insanely rich. Incredible work, as always - thank you!
Great breakdown, I especially like the shift to using colours as the drybrushing step, rather than the pure black/white monochrome that is often recommended
I love how far these techniques have evolved. My pop palette is amazing for metallic paints too
That texture palate for drybrush is genious
Contrast paints are harder to use than i thought. I only really need a 50% water/black templar mix that i use more like a shade to finish of zenithal drybrushed black armor for my Black Templar. I'm glad that im just using regular paint for everything else.
Happy anniversary Team Mev. The color class was very insightful with the CMYK wheel. Hope that you keep sharing your vast storehouse of applied knowledge.
Wow the finishedd model looks amazing!
I've found that letting the contrast paints dry on the fidget popper is better than rinsing because contrast paints have a nasty habit of building up in drains even when thinned.
I love purple too! Thanks for the video!
Thx for this comprehensive and condensed guide
Honestly, I usually cringe away whenever a painting creator does another take on "My Chapchop" to jump on the hype. While I get the point that for a CC it is important to ride the wave because it affects the earnings, it is still annoying. With that context: I really like your video and your take! Instead of alterting a step and trying to set it up as something completly new, you instead show in an accessible way how to do things good and better. Using colored shadows is really underappreciated, especially among newer painters. The "apply in smooth strokes in one direction" tipp is basic, yetI wish many of my friends have heared earlier. It would have really saved several ruined minis. Thank you very much for the mature set up, the really good tipps you share with us! Already look forward for your next videos :)
This came out awesome great job Lyla
Link to the cool yellow plastic "palette" thingy for ease of speed paint cleaning?
Great advice. I will definitely use them. Thank you
Amazing stuff.i love to wet blend the speedpaint on the slapchop too
The minis from Evernight seem really cool!
Great sum up of speedpainting techniques.
For a regular 28mm mini, what size brush should I use for most areas?
I normally only paint for my DND, and pathfinder campaigns. And was wondering if speed paint are more for Armies or if the Army speed paints 2.0 would also work for Fantasy stuff? I mean can get like 60 colors for $250 is it worth the money. I normally paint with Kimera paints, and Vallejo. Thanks any info would be great don’t really want to waste money.
Loved this vid, just getting into slap chop and this is super helpful
Howdo
Re: speedpaints - Army Painter quietly updated their palette membranes to work with speedpaint. Only yellow seems to bleed through. It's really good.
Great Vid. I just started in the hobby and was wondering why my dry brushing has been well...ass, and lo and behold I was using paper towels. I hear cardboard works good as well, since I don't have a texture palette on hand.
A piece of tile, some glass surface or even a plate could go a long way too.
Thank you for the tips. Apriciate that some of the minis are the bloodborn board game minis.
Thanks for your updated tutorial - always interested in seeing different techniques and methods of application.
I have an insane amount of minis to paint; Fantasy Series 1 (from blacklist games) is zenithal primed and ready, I have the Tyranids set from Leviathan about to land and heading to the EU distribution hub is Marvel Zombies all in! Slap Chop is absolutely the way to go for me - great to see some fab results being achieved! #inspirational ❤
Good luck!
I'm hard time deciding between circular motion or not, I get better coverage with circular sure but I have a difficult time preserving the light direction opposed to swiping it in a general light direction (adjusting a little bit for features edge directions of course). Maybe I just need more practice
when dry brushing that is. its not something I used much in the past preferring to very slowly and painstakingly glaze everything for natural looking blends
Great video! Thanks for the tips!
Purple is the best shadow color.
Payne's Grey would like a word... :)
Acrylic layering needs more skill and time but gives more control.
A mistake made with contrast paint can not be removed.I started using both types of colors for various purposes. I got the impression that Slapchop is most useful for big amounts models you want to use but the real art of layering is better for display pieces.
It's so funny to see what the RUclips Algorithm has done with Slap Chop, if you put that in the title it automatically gets pumped out to everyone. I'm not even hating I think everyone should use that trick LOL
I love your username and photo!
@@LylaMev thank you! I did not paint this mini but I’d like to be able to paint him this well one day. Easily my favorite encounter from kingdom death
Good video. 1 to make a video we make your own contrast paint, cheers Graham
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Wooo! Rob! Gg! And great vid!
Thanks for the video - how did you go about priming your Bloodborne minis? I’ve been wanting to paint mine but wasn’t sure if they’d take to regular primer
Regular games primer is working without any issue for Bloodborne mini.
So I guess any primer will do the job
yay a new video
Yay!
I love Im not the only one that has a thumb that looks like a tattoo school's practice canvas!!
Pretty cool tips, Thank you! :)
One kf thr better minis youve done. Great use of colored zenithal.
My problem with painting is that my skills are shyte, but I want well painted models XD
I cannot accept what I put out, and so they inevitably get stripped.
Also, I can't help but go back over areas (seeing a tiny spot i missed, the paint is a bit thin here, pooling there.. etc...)
Going over the lines is brutal with speedpaints, as it creates a smudgy area that has to be completely redone.
It's like I have OCD, but just for painting minis :D
Anyways, cool video.
I've got 3 models in the alcohol.
Maybe I'll give it another shot in a few days.
We are our harshest critics, stuff I have painted I think looks crap fellow painters have said, man thats awesome. Likewise I see things friends have painted and they blow my mind, but they think they are crap.
I gotta get me one of those silicon pop pad things.
It was $3!!
For the algorithm, I have nothing more creative to say
So Vallejo Xpress colors are worse?
Does nobody remember the original 'slapchop' it's the same technic GW painters showed in the How to paint citedal miniatures book back in 2003?
2:15 Kitteh assistant is best assistant
Right!?
Woooooooooo!
HELL YEAH
Wow you're good.
You're kind!
who invented this techinque?
Purple shadows are the superior shadows, its true.
Exactly!
Speed paints, eh? What about the reactivation problem?
2.0 doesn't reactivate!
2.0 is fine
How long can we milk the Slapchop search term?
Good question!
New?? I’ve been painting like that since 1989
usually your models feel too washed out for my taste, but this one looks vibrant, great job!
Weird! I'm known for My use of color!
@@LylaMev i know i watched your videos for a long time, but in my perception it feels like theres always too much white coming out from underpaint, dont get me wrong, i love your videos
Yes, a NEW technique indeed lol
"new"
Quick thing but when slap chopping you want color depth and contrast in both tone AND value. Just adding white to purple will only give you contrast in value but since the tone is the same that is much less interesting. In this case cause you are painting purple it would be much more interesting to base coat in a dark blue and then highlight in a pastel magenta so that your paint scheme warms up and changes tone and value. If you wanted to be more extreme you could base coat in a bluish turquoise and dry brush your highlights in a pastel red. A better example is when dry slap chopping red you can often base coat in purple and the dry brush your highlights in orange or even yellow.
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I feel the algorithm is less allmighty, and more like a capricious Greek god of old.
So dear algorithm, take this offering and be appeased!
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God I wish I had small hands…
every time I hear someone talk about the "slap chop" method of painting I instead think of this... ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=slap+chop+trinidad+
one year ago the murricans discover a painting technique with more than 100 years of used, as usual, they claim as an murrican invention ,like french fries or hamburgers, or flipflops or the wheel or the fire.... you can continue
So they call it french fries and you say they’re claiming them? XD les américains ont bien des torts mais ton exemple est flingué AF
This technique that is called "slap chop" is not new. We were painting our minatures back in the 80's using this method but it was called Grisaille. And we were using inks , glazes and pigments over the top, the technique is actually 100's of years old.
Yep. Painted like this in the late 80s 90s, think we just called it shading or underpainting though (to young to know a word like grisaille ha!). Drives me absolutely crazy that everyone is suddenly acting like it's a new technique and calling it slapchop
Yeah it's about as "new" as the Renaissance 😂
"This isn't new, it was just called something else and done differently with different materials before" 😂
But I'm just teasing, I get what you mean 👍
Wow! Thank you! As a college art professor, I know this is a not a new technique, I even talk about that in the first video I ever did in this topic. That’s why “new” Is in quotation marks.
No, it’s called slap chop.
Lyla,.....sorry, but don't "fry", just don't.....
it was not a new technique, just one that hadn't been popularised for some time, it was a great video Rob made though
Téma la taille du rat
OK, I'm really disappointed. Came here for the "As Seen on TV" Slap chop tips and I get someone massaging little plastic critters with a brush. BOOOOO!!!!! BOOOO I say!!!🤪
Can't stand how you're holding the brush. Cool video though
Slapchop just looks amateurish.
I really liked my result!
That's the point. You want to do them fast and easy. Not professionally done that's going to take hours.
what a gigantic waste of time.
How so?
Another great video
Thank you!