Honestly you doing a great job I have followed your videos and applying how you run your live stream. There's a lot if change on my stream thanks a million
Great video i learned a lot from it, i hope you talk about the basic set up "eq, comp. And all other effects that used to improve the sound quality for presenters that are used it.
I’m glad you found the video helpful. This video here talks about my general approach to EQ regardless of the input. This is specifically helpful for speaking microphones. ruclips.net/video/KyA7AA2SJ58/видео.html
The male and female vocal run through the Ultimo Compressor and I display those settings on the screen in those sections. It might be hard to see on a phone, but on a tablet or computer it should be plenty big enough to see the settings.
Allan, is there a way to maintain the ultimo compressor (insert) in the iem mix? Beause the tap point pre fader is before the insert... i saw only post fader tap option to make the insert work in iem... and this is not a option... Do you know other way?
In my setup I actually have all of my main channels set (EQ and Comp) according to the needs of my stream. I do have BUS 11 selected and then Sends on Fader to adjust the fader mix for the stream. I then run my inputs through various other BUS groups (Band, Drums, VOX) to allow BUS EQ and Comp according to my house needs. This video here discusses the general setup of my board. ruclips.net/video/pMnaiuC55RY/видео.html
@@AllamHouse that’s the video I watch over and over and over lol 😂 I don’t wanna add to much eq or reverb to front of house. We don’t mind a regular sound. I just want to do more eqs compression and stuff like that for the mix. I was watching your band eq and voice eq so when I saw you doing all the configurations I just needed to know if you were doing that on the specific stream mix bus channel
Yeah, I was originally concerned about reverbs and delays so I had a pair of FX for the house ( FX 1 & 1) and then I used FX 3 & 4 for my stream. It gave me the ability to have separate levels and Fx for both mixes. I have changed this in my current setup so that I now just have all 4 FX available in both locations. I spent a good bit of time in headphones with multi tracks to dial in the mix in both locations and it seems to land in a good spot now.
Yes, our IEMs run off MixBUSes and this gives us the ability to push these reverb returns into the musicians ears. Typically, we see the ‘All Verb’ being pushed into monitors and usually some drum verb as well.
Great video and teaching. My sound guy and I disagree about gain riding. My position is let the players play and the singers sing with minimal corrections unless really out of balance, but he likes to ride gains and change the mix. How do you instruct your crew?
I teach them to set gain properly first... with your eyes. Then use the faders to set the mix with your ears. This video discusses gain. ruclips.net/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/видео.html
@@AllamHouse As a player and vocalist, I try to engage on some passages and disengage of some passages for dynamics. When the sound person boosts when I'm low, I have to compensate, or cuts when I emphasize for dynamics, I can't get back to normal. I'm trying to get him to take a more "hands off" approach to mixing, and not be riding the faders so much. Is this wrong thinking on my part?
As a musician myself, I completely understand. The question I would have is around your monitor setup. If you are on in-ear monitors (IEM) then it will always sound the same regardless of changes made to the house mix. If you have wedges for monitors it will be slightly different since your overall sound scape does include the house sound even if you are hearing it bounce off walls and ceilings. In the end, you (the musician) should be able to have a steady monitor to support tour needs and the house engineer should be able to do whatever they need to properly support the room. I hope that helps.
@@AllamHouse thanks for your reply. I’m listening to our Facebook feed and trying to achieve a good mix without involving the house engineer. He is not monitoring the Facebook feed, doesn’t use headphones, but does a good job on the house mix. My feed is post fader but includes prefader ambience mics and drum mics. I guess I’m trying to justify asking him to not over mix. His fader moves make it difficult for me. Thanks for letting my whine :)
Hi Allam house, thanks again for another great video, very helpful. Is your Pastor's hands free mic omnidirectional ? i have an omnidirectional one but still have trouble dealing with the feedback especially from his monitors. When i reduce the gain to take care of this it helps but then the sound gets very low although with a decent volume level. Do you think attenuating more frequencies and raising the channel's volume might help with this ? Also please i have another issue: something weird has been happening in recent weeks when i power on my x32. After about 3 minutes or once signal from a mic or instrument begins to go into the system i will get a very loud pop/crackling/ sound lasting about 1 second. sometimes it sounds like something exploded or is blew up, but nothing is affected. I am not sure why this happens but i hate it because it scares people a lot. I have noticed that the sound only comes once a few minutes after i power on and have some sort of signal going through the system, and then everything is fine for the rest of the service. My main fader is always all the way down when i power on. Pls do you have any idea what all these could be and how to solve it? Thanks again
(1) My pastors mic is omnidirectional. It is a standard over-ear Countryman mic. My question for you is... why does your pastor need a monitor? Always start with setting the gain properly. Then send to your house and stream, THEN send to any other monitors that you have on stage. If you start cutting a bunch of frequencies the mic will just not sound natural. If you have an extra channel you can always duplicate the input on another channel that only feeds the stream so you can destroy the EQ for the house and then have a basic EQ on the second channel that is ONLY used for your stream. (2) Your loud banging sound is going to be hard to diagnose through a message, but I would start with trying to identify if the issue is coming from a specific input... maybe one with phantom power (48v) turned on. If you turn on your system, but not your amps then you can watch your board (or record it with your phone) and review to see if any specific input spikes. Also, you might look into turning off one amp to see if some capacitors in a specific amp are going bad. I would spend extra time (outside of a service day) to figure this out and do the hard work of troubleshooting at the board first, then add the stage inputs, then add the amps.
@@AllamHouse Thanks for these tips, I will try that. Sorry, so Speaking about "Pastor's" Monitor, I am referring to the front of stage monitors. There are 2 about 6 feet from his position. Sometimes he wants to hear himself crystal. Also referring to turning on or off amps , are you referring to the preamps? Cuz I have no external amplifiers. If it's preamp, how do I turn on or off individual preamps pls?
Yeah, usually if the PA is set there will be sound in the room and then the monitors are supposed to supplement the room sound. Some companies make hotspots which are small powered speakers that you can use as additional monitors, but you have to be cautious because it will quickly lead to feedback on the pastors mic. Then you go down the rabbit hole of ringing out the monitor and the mic which (if overdone) makes the mic sound bad in your stream. SOLUTION: If you have an extra channel available I would use it to duplicate your input so your pastors mic is coming into the console on two inputs channels (this is done digitally in the config tab of the second channel). Then you can send the second channel with gentle EQ to your stream while having the first with a drastic EQ that is only needed for the room/monitor situation. I would use a DCA to control both in terms of muting and volume. I have a video about acoustic guitar where I duplicate inputs. It is not the exact same setup, but it might get you where you need to go. ruclips.net/video/3xnQFr0XD0I/видео.html AMPS: Somewhere along the lines you have an amplifier that is feeding your speakers. If you do not have a separate amplifier than you have powered speakers and there is a volume knob on the back of them. You would want to attend to these volume knobs to be able to adjust after setting your board to an appropriate gain structure and volume output level on your main fader. Good luck with everything.
Dual exciter /stereo exciter, stereo imager can i use this effect to with presenter talk in lavalier microphone to get clean sound or there are other effects more than you took about it in the video that you recommend?
An exciter is going to add frequencies that are not there... to be specific it is boosting (like an EQ) overtones that are in the sound, but are not the main frequency. I would avoid using this on a lav mic as you will be picking up more room noise with this mic and then running it through the exciter will just make the sound muddy. I would focus first on getting the proper gain structure, EQ and some compression to even the sound out and see what it sounds like at that point. For speaking mics (in my live stream) I add a little bit of my room reverb (on the console), but it is just a little. Too much reverb and they will sound too far away and too muddy. When I am troubleshooting I turn off everything and start with a dry signal, work with the basics first and get it as good as possible and then look to FX as a last touch.
@@AllamHouse so your advice that it is better to me start with gain and low cut eq and comp. and lower or adjust the volume thro sensitivity in the sennheiser unit and after that if it's necessary add effect in the end write?
@@AllamHouse but i need you to recommend the best effect that i can use in m32 to get more clean sound in lavalier microphone if there is any other issue that maybe i face it... Thanks
Clean sound starts at the source. The actual microphone makes a big difference. Where the microphone is placed makes a big impact as well. If you use a cheap mic it is t going to sound good and even the best mic in the wrong place will give you a bad sound. There is no magic button (or effect as you are asking about) that can cure these challenges. Once you have an acceptable mic placed properly, you have to set the gain right. Finally, use EQ to remove any unwanted frequencies and use compression to create a more even experience.
Check out the 12:00 section in this video where I discuss adding FX just for a livestream. There is a quick link in the description of the video. ruclips.net/video/pMnaiuC55RY/видео.html
I am happy to work with you directly. To get started, please fill out the contact card on my website and we can communicate outside of YT. sound.AllamHouse.com
I have done that in different environments, but currently I only have one or two background vocals and typically one of them will take a lead part at some point and the quick changes would be a little challenging. Also, I have all my other FX slots taken up with other things at this point.
Honestly you doing a great job I have followed your videos and applying how you run your live stream. There's a lot if change on my stream thanks a million
That’s great. Thanks for the encouragement.
Great video i learned a lot from it, i hope you talk about the basic set up "eq, comp. And all other effects that used to improve the sound quality for presenters that are used it.
I’m glad you found the video helpful. This video here talks about my general approach to EQ regardless of the input. This is specifically helpful for speaking microphones. ruclips.net/video/KyA7AA2SJ58/видео.html
Great video. Ambience definitely brings in a nice shimmer to the vocals.
You once again explained very well
Great video as always. What are your settings for the Ultimo Compressor?
The male and female vocal run through the Ultimo Compressor and I display those settings on the screen in those sections. It might be hard to see on a phone, but on a tablet or computer it should be plenty big enough to see the settings.
Great video, that ambience setup👌👌. Cheers
Thanks for the encouragement.
Another great tutorial! Glad I've subscribed! Thanks!
Allan, is there a way to maintain the ultimo compressor (insert) in the iem mix? Beause the tap point pre fader is before the insert... i saw only post fader tap option to make the insert work in iem... and this is not a option... Do you know other way?
Great job Allan! Sounds fantastic
Love your stuff, huge help. Question. How do I go about recording the team so I can do some work on the sound later like you’re doing?
You will want to setup a DAW to record multitracks. This video will walk you through the steps. ruclips.net/video/oPragZ_x7MQ/видео.html
When you are doing this is channel 11 for the stream selected and then send to faders and then you do each individual channels eq and fx?
In my setup I actually have all of my main channels set (EQ and Comp) according to the needs of my stream. I do have BUS 11 selected and then Sends on Fader to adjust the fader mix for the stream. I then run my inputs through various other BUS groups (Band, Drums, VOX) to allow BUS EQ and Comp according to my house needs. This video here discusses the general setup of my board. ruclips.net/video/pMnaiuC55RY/видео.html
@@AllamHouse that’s the video I watch over and over and over lol 😂 I don’t wanna add to much eq or reverb to front of house. We don’t mind a regular sound. I just want to do more eqs compression and stuff like that for the mix. I was watching your band eq and voice eq so when I saw you doing all the configurations I just needed to know if you were doing that on the specific stream mix bus channel
Yeah, I was originally concerned about reverbs and delays so I had a pair of FX for the house ( FX 1 & 1) and then I used FX 3 & 4 for my stream. It gave me the ability to have separate levels and Fx for both mixes. I have changed this in my current setup so that I now just have all 4 FX available in both locations. I spent a good bit of time in headphones with multi tracks to dial in the mix in both locations and it seems to land in a good spot now.
btw, do u change the reverb setting from post fader to pre fader? U didn't mention in the video
No, I always leave the FX BUS sends as Post Fader. I do this so if I turn an instrument (or vocal) down there is less effect heard as well.
Great video. This same reverbs will work for musicians IEM? How do you approach the in ear mix if you have to work with all 4 effects?
Yes, our IEMs run off MixBUSes and this gives us the ability to push these reverb returns into the musicians ears. Typically, we see the ‘All Verb’ being pushed into monitors and usually some drum verb as well.
Great video and teaching. My sound guy and I disagree about gain riding. My position is let the players play and the singers sing with minimal corrections unless really out of balance, but he likes to ride gains and change the mix. How do you instruct your crew?
I teach them to set gain properly first... with your eyes. Then use the faders to set the mix with your ears. This video discusses gain. ruclips.net/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/видео.html
@@AllamHouse As a player and vocalist, I try to engage on some passages and disengage of some passages for dynamics. When the sound person boosts when I'm low, I have to compensate, or cuts when I emphasize for dynamics, I can't get back to normal. I'm trying to get him to take a more "hands off" approach to mixing, and not be riding the faders so much. Is this wrong thinking on my part?
As a musician myself, I completely understand. The question I would have is around your monitor setup. If you are on in-ear monitors (IEM) then it will always sound the same regardless of changes made to the house mix. If you have wedges for monitors it will be slightly different since your overall sound scape does include the house sound even if you are hearing it bounce off walls and ceilings. In the end, you (the musician) should be able to have a steady monitor to support tour needs and the house engineer should be able to do whatever they need to properly support the room. I hope that helps.
@@AllamHouse thanks for your reply. I’m listening to our Facebook feed and trying to achieve a good mix without involving the house engineer. He is not monitoring the Facebook feed, doesn’t use headphones, but does a good job on the house mix. My feed is post fader but includes prefader ambience mics and drum mics. I guess I’m trying to justify asking him to not over mix. His fader moves make it difficult for me.
Thanks for letting my whine :)
Haha. Sometimes you just need a shoulder to cry on. Maybe using some additional compression might offer an easier job for everyone.
This is my life changing video…
I’m glad the video was helpful. Let me know if you have any questions.
Hi Allam house, thanks again for another great video, very helpful. Is your Pastor's hands free mic omnidirectional ? i have an omnidirectional one but still have trouble dealing with the feedback especially from his monitors. When i reduce the gain to take care of this it helps but then the sound gets very low although with a decent volume level. Do you think attenuating more frequencies and raising the channel's volume might help with this ? Also please i have another issue: something weird has been happening in recent weeks when i power on my x32. After about 3 minutes or once signal from a mic or instrument begins to go into the system i will get a very loud pop/crackling/ sound lasting about 1 second. sometimes it sounds like something exploded or is blew up, but nothing is affected. I am not sure why this happens but i hate it because it scares people a lot. I have noticed that the sound only comes once a few minutes after i power on and have some sort of signal going through the system, and then everything is fine for the rest of the service. My main fader is always all the way down when i power on. Pls do you have any idea what all these could be and how to solve it? Thanks again
(1) My pastors mic is omnidirectional. It is a standard over-ear Countryman mic. My question for you is... why does your pastor need a monitor?
Always start with setting the gain properly. Then send to your house and stream, THEN send to any other monitors that you have on stage. If you start cutting a bunch of frequencies the mic will just not sound natural. If you have an extra channel you can always duplicate the input on another channel that only feeds the stream so you can destroy the EQ for the house and then have a basic EQ on the second channel that is ONLY used for your stream.
(2) Your loud banging sound is going to be hard to diagnose through a message, but I would start with trying to identify if the issue is coming from a specific input... maybe one with phantom power (48v) turned on. If you turn on your system, but not your amps then you can watch your board (or record it with your phone) and review to see if any specific input spikes. Also, you might look into turning off one amp to see if some capacitors in a specific amp are going bad. I would spend extra time (outside of a service day) to figure this out and do the hard work of troubleshooting at the board first, then add the stage inputs, then add the amps.
@@AllamHouse Thanks for these tips, I will try that. Sorry, so Speaking about "Pastor's" Monitor, I am referring to the front of stage monitors. There are 2 about 6 feet from his position. Sometimes he wants to hear himself crystal.
Also referring to turning on or off amps , are you referring to the preamps? Cuz I have no external amplifiers. If it's preamp, how do I turn on or off individual preamps pls?
Yeah, usually if the PA is set there will be sound in the room and then the monitors are supposed to supplement the room sound. Some companies make hotspots which are small powered speakers that you can use as additional monitors, but you have to be cautious because it will quickly lead to feedback on the pastors mic. Then you go down the rabbit hole of ringing out the monitor and the mic which (if overdone) makes the mic sound bad in your stream.
SOLUTION: If you have an extra channel available I would use it to duplicate your input so your pastors mic is coming into the console on two inputs channels (this is done digitally in the config tab of the second channel). Then you can send the second channel with gentle EQ to your stream while having the first with a drastic EQ that is only needed for the room/monitor situation. I would use a DCA to control both in terms of muting and volume. I have a video about acoustic guitar where I duplicate inputs. It is not the exact same setup, but it might get you where you need to go. ruclips.net/video/3xnQFr0XD0I/видео.html
AMPS: Somewhere along the lines you have an amplifier that is feeding your speakers. If you do not have a separate amplifier than you have powered speakers and there is a volume knob on the back of them. You would want to attend to these volume knobs to be able to adjust after setting your board to an appropriate gain structure and volume output level on your main fader.
Good luck with everything.
@@AllamHouse Thanks allot Allamhouse
@@AllamHouse How can one support this channel Allamhouse?
Thanks for all your help
Dual exciter /stereo exciter, stereo imager can i use this effect to with presenter talk in lavalier microphone to get clean sound or there are other effects more than you took about it in the video that you recommend?
An exciter is going to add frequencies that are not there... to be specific it is boosting (like an EQ) overtones that are in the sound, but are not the main frequency. I would avoid using this on a lav mic as you will be picking up more room noise with this mic and then running it through the exciter will just make the sound muddy. I would focus first on getting the proper gain structure, EQ and some compression to even the sound out and see what it sounds like at that point. For speaking mics (in my live stream) I add a little bit of my room reverb (on the console), but it is just a little. Too much reverb and they will sound too far away and too muddy. When I am troubleshooting I turn off everything and start with a dry signal, work with the basics first and get it as good as possible and then look to FX as a last touch.
@@AllamHouse so your advice that it is better to me start with gain and low cut eq and comp. and lower or adjust the volume thro sensitivity in the sennheiser unit and after that if it's necessary add effect in the end write?
@@AllamHouse but i need you to recommend the best effect that i can use in m32 to get more clean sound in lavalier microphone if there is any other issue that maybe i face it... Thanks
Clean sound starts at the source. The actual microphone makes a big difference. Where the microphone is placed makes a big impact as well. If you use a cheap mic it is t going to sound good and even the best mic in the wrong place will give you a bad sound. There is no magic button (or effect as you are asking about) that can cure these challenges. Once you have an acceptable mic placed properly, you have to set the gain right. Finally, use EQ to remove any unwanted frequencies and use compression to create a more even experience.
How do you get that ambience on the stream but not in the room? Where do I go to adjust those sends?
Check out the 12:00 section in this video where I discuss adding FX just for a livestream. There is a quick link in the description of the video. ruclips.net/video/pMnaiuC55RY/видео.html
What will be the next video about
The next video will be about the special routing so am doing for my live stream. Using a Bus and Matrix to make the most out of the console.
@@AllamHouse 🙏🙏
Pls I will like to meet with you if is possible to share your thoughts on what am trying to archive
I am happy to work with you directly. To get started, please fill out the contact card on my website and we can communicate outside of YT. sound.AllamHouse.com
Have you ever tried to use Chorus for your backup singers
I have done that in different environments, but currently I only have one or two background vocals and typically one of them will take a lead part at some point and the quick changes would be a little challenging. Also, I have all my other FX slots taken up with other things at this point.
@@AllamHouse Thank you
Thank you