I was talking with an Eastern European friend who works in video game development. The largest youth audiences in the planet are in... >drumroll< Southeast Asia/China and India. These parts of the world rely largely on mobile. As long as it doesn't impinge on FF14 the base game, and if it keeps SE from trying to insert gross monetization into the base game, I don't care if a mobile version is getting made. In fact, I look forward to playing it with someone who will now be able to enjoy the story with me. :)
I think the game is more for people who are interested in playing the game, but don't have a console or big PC. China is huge with mobile gaming, so it is primarily for them, though everyone else will get it. If the game does not allow us to use our existing character, it's a huge no for me, because I'm just not interested in playing the game all over again lol. But if it did allow us, then I'd use it to gather or do some crafting while on break or traveling.
I personally would have wanted a remastered 1.0 storyline version of this but I'm in the minority. But it is kinda weird they did use the 1.0 starter scene with Thancred and a younger F'lhaminn dancer in this teaser trailer?
I could see that being part of the plan tbh. We don’t have any confirmation atm, but I’m just cautiously optimistic at this point. Especially after learning there’s no gacha.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying!! The Thancred scene alone got me at least hyped for a new 1.0 experience, but if this is just ARR onwards again then I’m not super interested 😕
Ngl itd be crazy if you could get the legacy tattoo from the mobile version. If it uses the og cinematic that connects it to the original dimension from 1.0 which is different from the one we are in now. In universe if you played 1.0 your character was teleported to the current world by Louisoix and the tattoo you get is remnants of his magic.
Each job's kit will probably be in line with what we have in the PVP kit on the PC/Console client. Only monetization possibility will be the same we have in our online store, if there is no P2W or gacha. Overall I'm just glad there is no crossplay with the original client and it will be a community of it's own. However, I hope this does not ever, in any way, shift priorities from their main game to this.
I don't see how it would. Not only is a separate studio handling it but it will get all its content from the main game. It's going to be playing catch up for years.
Oh man, if we get PvP Red Mage as normal Red Mage in Mobile, I will be SO happy. When nuPvP launched and I got a taste of a Red Mage that STARTS with fast sword combat and then flips backwards and launches into flashy big booms, it was so hard to go back to PvE RDM.
@@vitawaterplzwe shouldn’t be having issues like hrothgar and viera not having hats. I’ve played this game since 1.X and I’m severely disappointed that they’ve reallocated money out of the game to failing games like Forspoken. It’s ridiculous
All I see is people (likely Western audience) failing to see the point of this. Let's not forget "we" aren't the whole world and there's a HUGE mobile market in the East. There are literal millions of people that play mostly on mobile, and sometimes even MMOs! This can only be a good thing for the game, brand and Yoship's team. Sure, they won't direclty be involved as much with it, but more eyes for the game is gonna be excellent and people might just get hooked and want to see how the story continues after ARR, trying it out on PC! I'll probably check it out for fun and see what they can cook up in a mobile environment, but I do realize I'm not the target audience and that's perfectly fine.
Not just in the east. If you're American look to the south. South America's largest games market is mobile as well. Honestly by now the entire world's games market is mostly ok phones.
Thanks for educating your fellow westerners. Phone games is here to stay whether you like it or not because in other countries it is easier/cheaper/time efficient to get a phone than a 5k PC with 4090. Some of us spend upwards of 40mins+ on public transports so we can't drag our PC along with us, so the next best thing is either a phone or hand held/portable console.
They probably using a new engine or heavily modified version bc its the most inefficient cpu intensive MMO ive ever played on PC. Putting it on Mobile with only the phone chip will heat the shi outa it.
Honestly, that one Minfilia voice line was actually the most exciting part of the trailer to me ‘cause it sounds like they might have redone ARR’s voice acting.
I’ll probably try it out for fun if the sign-up isn’t utterly miserable then drop it and go back to the main game after a week Giga-Copium: If it succeeds in China and SE see the value in XIV they might give CBU3 a bit more funding and general wiggle room
I'm surprised Gacha was the first thing people would be worried about when it comes to a Mobile MMO... for me it's the auto path, auto questing, auto playing aspect. Throne & Liberty received so much backlash that they removed it for the western release... but kept other parts of the "mobile mmo" traps. Gacha always falls down to your own mental fortitude with gambling.
Why would it be auto-playing? It's supposed to be as close to the PC version as possible. This isn't supposed to be a different style of game, it's supposed to be XIV on the go.
@@lambdafish291 Because they could literally tell you anything, and then go back on it, at release? Wouldn't be the first time a company lies to you lmao. Movement on a mobile game sucks ass, all those games with free range movement but no Auto play better on PC simply because of that. So most games that try to skirt the problem fall down the Auto path/Auto play trap. Just like how they talk about no Gacha for monetization, as a mobile game their gonna be monetizing something and whatever it is when we find out will still ruffle a few people's jimmies.
Tbh I’m grateful for no gacha both because - I already play Ever Crisis I don’t need another gacha in my life. Also, I have friends who HATE gachas for moral reasons, so being able to share this story more easily to ppl who can’t or won’t do MMO subscriptions is a lovely option.
If it is Free to Play then the cost of development will be covered as all f2p mobile games are. By the whale spenders. This is how these games work. They literally cannot be sustainable from a cost perspective otherwise. So even if it's not "Gacha" it must have a revenue stream that encourages some users to spend a lot of money. No F2P works without this.
Even if they did some sort of a gatcha systems, thinking back to my DFFOO days, that game was honestly probably the cheapest gatcha I've ever played. Sure, cosmetics were $$$, but building your roster of actual gameplay affecting characters was really not expensive at all. Pretty sure I just did the monthly like gem bundle or whatever for 5 or 10 a month and that's it, and I never had a character I wanted come out that I couldn't get.
Think it would be cool if we could link out pc/console accounts, and we could get special rewards like if I could get mobile exclusive stuff on my main that would definitely incline me playing it im hopeful but still skeptical. Also, first ever YT comment❤.
this, how are accounts gonna work, also i wonder if this might make them have a free version of the pc version to, would love to be able to buy expansions and do most stuff on free version and have ultimates and end game stuff locked behind a sub hell make teleports a sub only thing to lol i fly everywhere anyways just give us the 3 teleports we set as prefered
Well, we don't know the %s but with licensing its likely majority of funds would return to Lightspeed. With a big IP like FFXIV its probable they negotiated a pretty high percentage, especially to have the XIV devs supervise Mobile's decisions, but its not like every dollar spent would be going to Square Enix
As long as it stays seperate i think its great. This gets those without a pc/console a way to experience some of FFXIV. Hopefully they get a similar quality story/gameplay experience
Long term engagement is the goal in standard XIV too. Except they do that by trickling the barest minimum of content every patch to keep you coming back.
Since they're basically recreating it, I hope they aim to make it even better than the PC version. It'd also be nice if they improved the graphics. Even for mobile, it looks extremely dated.
I'm guessing there will be content-gating based on gear level and gear will be upgraded through various materials dropped by dungeons/bosses/whatever. An energy system will cap your progress daily and you may get an hour of progression a day without paying. Whatever gate-keeping energy system will be able to be bypassed by throwing money at the screen one way or another. Maybe by selling the gear upgrade materials directly and/or through a battlepass. Encounters themselves and their rewards might be monetized and sold individually like Diablo Immortal. This doesn't take into account the possibility they might do that with exp/levels as well. Who knows really, but it is mobile and it will be predatory one way or another.
I couldn't help but notice that the line from Minfilia in the trailer isn't the original VA - it's the one from Heavensward onwards. It makes me wonder if they're completely revoicing ARR for this or if it's just something they did specifically for the trailer.
F2P is REQUIRED for a mobile game in Asia (the target audience imo). It's fine, a battle pass that awards bikinis, crafting materials and minions could be done, especially if it doesn't expire like the Warbonds in Helldivers 2. I can also see Retainer slots being a good part of the push, with a bigger emphasis on ventures like in many other mobile games. What i would love to see is some sort of cross-talk between the desktop and mobile game versions, perhaps with a shared "ultimate" subscription where paying 15€ or 20€ would grand both the desktop subscription, the mobile app kupo nuts and the mobile game premium battlepass.
Personally really interested in this - as someone who has to pinch their pennies more and more these days, a free to play option that allows me to still experience the game (and on the go, no less) is very much welcome, particularly if they've found a way to sidestep gacha features. Plus, here's to hoping and coping that if FFXIV mobile does well enough, they MIGHT return to the idea of FFXI mobile, since FFXI would honestly have benefited far more from this.
its difficult to imagine how to make a PC/console MMO into mobile format. But here we are, witnessing FF14 going mobile lol. I hope they know what they are doing on this one.
I would imagine it’s similar to how Ever Crisis plays to FF7 Remake. We’ll almost certainly not have even a fraction of the number of buttons as FFXIV Prime.
It's funny how I don't see any difference between what is shown in the trailer and the original, so I was not sure whether I was watching the original or mobile version. I guess I'd know the difference if the UI is seen.
Perhaps for the Mobile Client they use an modified Dungeon Helpers NPC AI for the Player for moving around. Some kind of Semi Auto. Perhaps also the fighting is something like the Dungeon AI Helper, just the player can activate some direct commandos. But this is just my guessing how they could make it.
The only thing that's stopping me from playing it would be no controller/mobile adapter support. I have a backbone and use it frequently, but some games I can't play disappoint me because the lack of support. Hopefully this will be answered and supported later if not at launch.
Pretty sure the only way I’d play this is if it contains new voice acting for ARR. That alone would be worth the price of admission. I can’t tell if that was Minfilia’s post or pre ARR voice in the trailer.
I would be cool if they went for a " we are actually on another shard that is very similar to the source but different events take place after the calamity. that would make me actually play it if it was different story but tied to the main games story and eventually comes to a head
The reliability of this information coming from paid sponsorships is so minimal. I'm goign to wait for actual news from this and not paid sponsor spots, but this does not look good at all. It looks to be a china-first censored version of the ARR story made by a company notorious for generative AI usage, shoveled out into the market. It doesn't leave me hopeful at all even with segments like this saying "see look it's not gacha", it's still a f2p chinese mobile game it's not going to be very consumer friendly in the slightest.
I can see its appeal for mobile players in parts of the world that have more support for those games. But for me who has been playing since Heavensward, I really dont see myself playing this on my phone. Especially if its basically the same story over again. I would have really taken an interest if they had a different story set in the same world. Like they are literally sitting on the dystopian timeline where certain events happen that I wont elaborate on due to spoilers. But imagine being an adventurer in this hostile timeline helping others with ideals that pretty much fly in the face of the whole "every man for himself" way of thinking?
I’m not sure if I want this version of the game to cover future expansions or to diverge from post ARR, I think the latter could be pretty cool running parallel to the main game and seeing how different things get
The game design of an MMORPG is largely a consequence of monetization. FFXIV is designed around the subscription model (although lately the system has some cracks, and the patches practically always arrive later and are smaller and more divided, where it almost doesn't seem like you're paying a subscription). However, this mobile game will practically be a different game. To change the business model, you also have to change the design
As someone who stopped subbing years ago, I was hoping I'd be able to pick up where I left off in this version. Oh well, at least there's no gacha crap. If it's not the grindiest thing in the world, and if there's controller support, I might still try it to experience the story.
Im here for it. Im absolutely here for it. Im looking forward to it. Is it gonna be mobile? Yes. Are there concerns about gacha and micro transactions? Of course. But do I trust yoshi P? Absolutely. That man has saved, innovated and has basically been the father, leader and direct voice of 14. It may not be the same as on pc, but i would love to be able to have the experience in a mobile form factor. And i know that yoshi p and the community wont allow certain things that would allow the name to get bismerched. So im happy for this announcement but still vigilant about what the other forces may make him and the team do.
@ That’s pretty much how old PSO2 worked it was the fashion that funded the game and you paid “rent” for your apartment 😂 I believe NGS does the same now too. No pay 2 win you can literally just enjoy the game if you are on a budget and spend on glam when you want.
It also brings the question if I can play this on a Tablet as well... Which I assume that it will but I can imagine playing this more on a Tablet than a Phone and if so, Makes me consider more to get a Ipad with the new M4 chip in em, Something to play and Something to do art on.
EDIT: im leaving this comment here since i still feel they partially apply, but i did type this before getting to the mention of controls and honestly unless they made the game only compatible with controller or mouse and keyboard i cant see of a way that they could make the current controls work on screen, so with that in mind i feel less bothered by the mobile version but still think they shouldve done something else with it (maybe add the ARR in a condensed update like KH union cross did with the story from KH X) as much as i will be checking it out when it comes out i feel like they kinda wasted a chance to do something really amazing or really original. if you are anyone who has a pc or console (non switch) then there is really no reason to play this since the free trial of ff14 surpasses most of the content included in mobile (as far as we know). If they wanted to open up the doors for mobile users to play ff14 they really shouldve just bit the bullet and make a low spec copy of the console version. I know that doing it that way the game probably wouldnt be as pretty (thinking fortnite mobile as a comparison) but then there wouldnt have to be a worry about playerbase and lack of content not to mention it probably would be easy to port to switch. on the other hand they couldve done something more orignal or seperate from FF14 something close enough gameplay wise old timers wouldnt be alienated but not so close to the original that it basically loses all reason to play it if you are a veteran or if you are currently playing FF14. the only people i can think of that might enjoy it even after playing FF14 is the dumbasses like me who can afford ff14 rn and need something to scratch the itch.
SE has already EoL so many of their FF mobile games (Record Keeper, Opera Omnia, Brave Exvius, Final Fantasy VII: The First Soldier, Mobius) Most of those had gacha so how would they even make money on this to keep it running?
I have a hard time imagining players being into this unless they make exclusive rewards that transfer to the main FF14 game account, in which case, will the player actually be wanting to play mobile, or would the feel compelled to and thus lose interest in the FF14 universe as a whole?
Okay having no Gacha takes care of one of my big two concerns. The other is combat gameplay. I can't really imagine anything close to FFXIV working on a touch screen only. This is going to be a very hard sell for me, but I'll keep an open mind until we get a more direct look at how control and combat will work.
Might give my friends a try who don't want to play the normal retail version. The fights will be dumb down but least will see wtf I talk about my old days in 14. Curious what Summoner be like if it's even in it from seeing the Lala's. Larry will be Happy I assume if we got our Dot Mage back in this version lol. But i'm more concern on yes Monetization, How the combat will work (I'm thinking prolly Monster Hunter Now Movement. Dunno) and worse of all. Is my Relic of a Phone gonna Burst into Flames moment I hit the title Screen. I feel the Specs on this is going to hit High End Phones to keep up the process and battery life.
I wonder how popular it'll be globally. Like, will people pick it up as a side game? Switch over completely? Even if I were interested, I can't see myself playing 2 different versions of XIV.
for the Skills, I would think the Chinese players would be really miserable playing with the lv50 skills only (if it begins with only ARR) Playing synced to 50 is an horrible experience whatever job you play on nowadays
The devs should know better that you don't face titans tankbuster into the healer. I would love to see teaser and trailer incorperate better how the game mechanics work. WoW also did this a lot and I was just scratching my head if they don't know how the actual game works. Hurricane is the best example if it comes to his wow videos, he makes insanely good trailer while also staying true to the ingame player experience by incorperating actual player behavior into his scenes. Knowing FF well enough, the fight of titan looks nothing like you would experience yourself ever. It looks more like the typical afk autobattler mobile game ads. While it doesn't necessarily makes it a bad game, I am less interested in trying if the trailer is already inaccurate about the ingame experience. I think trailer would be much more appealing if they are either flashed out and fancy or display very well what you would expect when playing the game. This kinda does neither. I know this is nit picking, but this is going on for years and I never thought this kind of presentation is interesting or natural.
I don't think there is much pull for PC players to the mobile version. These are vastly different markets because of the gameplay designs (mobile grinds, energy systems, dollar-to-win, fomo, etc). I know what f2p mobile gaming is like without gacha and it's still very lackluster.
my bet their main monetization are either through skins (glamour), bazillion currencies for upgrades and auto-battle system. how else can a free game with no gacha make money? just look at Ragnarok Origin
My only interaction with this game will be to get rewards from the the base game. As long as that is not paywalled I don't really care about it's existence.
I'm more confused in general as to who this is for. Cause it's not for existing players, because why would we want to go back and redo all of the story, on mobile of all platforms? So it must be for new players, but then why would they want to play it on mobile? Especially when the type of players who seek out mobile stuff like this, will ultimately stick around for gacha mechanincs, which we are now told this won't have. I give it a year or two of life, before Squenix announces it didn't meet revenue projections, and pulls the plug on the servers
Why play mobile? Because there are millions of people in other countries like China who only play on mobile and do not own and also cannot afford PCs or consoles.
@andrewichigo Toram Online is a 9 years MMO on phone right now. Although it has awful graphics but still is the top quality/favorite MMO of millions people. See? there is a market for it. FF14 could be a big hit in this market if they manage it right.
What about specs? Does it really run like teaser on a normal phone? Or u need like a rog phone? Another thing its the space. How many Gb will it be? Like 30Gb? I think this is the basic of all. Like FF7EC, not all phones run the game and FF14 will push much more than Ever Crises
Curious about the systems and differences though currently not likely to play it, but gotta say…the gacha jokes are still funny. Can’t blame people when there’s been some large gacha games released across platforms includjngnouknes
Why can't I connect to my PC WoL? I'm guessing gameplay wise there's no longer a need to move around in battle. It's gonna be skill button mashing. It should have been a companion game that can standalone. Like a tactics game based FFXIV. Battle at Cartaneu prologue to orient us with the controls and gameplay, then jump in to the background battles that happen alongside Warrior of Light's adventure, first recruitables are gonna be sprout adventurers, then progressing to Heavensward, tier 2 jobs, dragoons, summoners etc, moving to stormblood, bigger battles because it's war with the imperials. And I'd be alright with the Gacha if we get the strategy game, getting an Aymeric, getting a Hien for the Stormblood wars. Or Rauhbahn with immortal flames recruits. man. I'd subscribe to that battle pass everyday if we get a tactics game like that. even if they went with sprites for graphics.
Lightspeed? The Tencent company? My brother, you played XIV. Were you sleepwalking when Riol told you that you need to pay attention to where your money is coming from?
There is almost no ethical spending nowadays. Tencent has a hand in a lot of things people do/play, and almost anything/everything we own has moral lines that are crossed to make them. Not going to act like this is some big deal lol
I was talking with an Eastern European friend who works in video game development. The largest youth audiences in the planet are in... >drumroll< Southeast Asia/China and India. These parts of the world rely largely on mobile. As long as it doesn't impinge on FF14 the base game, and if it keeps SE from trying to insert gross monetization into the base game, I don't care if a mobile version is getting made. In fact, I look forward to playing it with someone who will now be able to enjoy the story with me. :)
As long as the mobile version stays 100% separate from FF14, I couldn't care less about it.
I think the game is more for people who are interested in playing the game, but don't have a console or big PC. China is huge with mobile gaming, so it is primarily for them, though everyone else will get it. If the game does not allow us to use our existing character, it's a huge no for me, because I'm just not interested in playing the game all over again lol. But if it did allow us, then I'd use it to gather or do some crafting while on break or traveling.
idk I would like to be able to fish from my phone while Im pooping
I agree
As much as I'm hopeful of that situation too, I fully expect a "promotion"/"collaboration" into the original FFXIV with a mount or minion as bait.
Same
I personally would have wanted a remastered 1.0 storyline version of this but I'm in the minority. But it is kinda weird they did use the 1.0 starter scene with Thancred and a younger F'lhaminn dancer in this teaser trailer?
Having it cover part of 1.0 would be a smart way to get existing XIV players to hop over for at least a while.
I could see that being part of the plan tbh. We don’t have any confirmation atm, but I’m just cautiously optimistic at this point. Especially after learning there’s no gacha.
I wish for the same.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying!! The Thancred scene alone got me at least hyped for a new 1.0 experience, but if this is just ARR onwards again then I’m not super interested 😕
Ngl itd be crazy if you could get the legacy tattoo from the mobile version. If it uses the og cinematic that connects it to the original dimension from 1.0 which is different from the one we are in now. In universe if you played 1.0 your character was teleported to the current world by Louisoix and the tattoo you get is remnants of his magic.
Each job's kit will probably be in line with what we have in the PVP kit on the PC/Console client.
Only monetization possibility will be the same we have in our online store, if there is no P2W or gacha.
Overall I'm just glad there is no crossplay with the original client and it will be a community of it's own.
However, I hope this does not ever, in any way, shift priorities from their main game to this.
I don't see how it would. Not only is a separate studio handling it but it will get all its content from the main game. It's going to be playing catch up for years.
just wish they would spend more money on ff14 they make most of their money from that game
Oh man, if we get PvP Red Mage as normal Red Mage in Mobile, I will be SO happy. When nuPvP launched and I got a taste of a Red Mage that STARTS with fast sword combat and then flips backwards and launches into flashy big booms, it was so hard to go back to PvE RDM.
@@vitawaterplz If this is being licensed by Lightspeed/Tencent, then Sqeenix isn't the ones actually paying for this and are instead being PAID.
@@vitawaterplzwe shouldn’t be having issues like hrothgar and viera not having hats. I’ve played this game since 1.X and I’m severely disappointed that they’ve reallocated money out of the game to failing games like Forspoken. It’s ridiculous
8:26 Thanks for the input, Ivy
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All I see is people (likely Western audience) failing to see the point of this. Let's not forget "we" aren't the whole world and there's a HUGE mobile market in the East. There are literal millions of people that play mostly on mobile, and sometimes even MMOs! This can only be a good thing for the game, brand and Yoship's team. Sure, they won't direclty be involved as much with it, but more eyes for the game is gonna be excellent and people might just get hooked and want to see how the story continues after ARR, trying it out on PC!
I'll probably check it out for fun and see what they can cook up in a mobile environment, but I do realize I'm not the target audience and that's perfectly fine.
People talking about ff14 brings more players to the main game so its a win win.
Not just in the east. If you're American look to the south. South America's largest games market is mobile as well.
Honestly by now the entire world's games market is mostly ok phones.
@@sinom yep, phones got powerfull enough to run good games (even through emulation)
This comment should be pinned. You white people always think your country is the only one to exist in the world
Thanks for educating your fellow westerners. Phone games is here to stay whether you like it or not because in other countries it is easier/cheaper/time efficient to get a phone than a 5k PC with 4090. Some of us spend upwards of 40mins+ on public transports so we can't drag our PC along with us, so the next best thing is either a phone or hand held/portable console.
it's funny because our game engine is so old now that mobile games can emulate it on a in-game cutscene level
An engine isn’t graphics.
They probably using a new engine or heavily modified version bc its the most inefficient cpu intensive MMO ive ever played on PC. Putting it on Mobile with only the phone chip will heat the shi outa it.
Honesty would have preferred they kept up with ffxi mobile
that's probably next
I hope that comes about in a few years at least. Im surprised they went with 14 instead of 11
Yessss, this
Honestly, that one Minfilia voice line was actually the most exciting part of the trailer to me ‘cause it sounds like they might have redone ARR’s voice acting.
I’ll probably try it out for fun if the sign-up isn’t utterly miserable then drop it and go back to the main game after a week
Giga-Copium: If it succeeds in China and SE see the value in XIV they might give CBU3 a bit more funding and general wiggle room
As someone who skipped all off ARR, I’d play this just to have a way to play it without having to NG+ it
8:25 MEOW!
I'm surprised Gacha was the first thing people would be worried about when it comes to a Mobile MMO... for me it's the auto path, auto questing, auto playing aspect. Throne & Liberty received so much backlash that they removed it for the western release... but kept other parts of the "mobile mmo" traps. Gacha always falls down to your own mental fortitude with gambling.
Why would it be auto-playing? It's supposed to be as close to the PC version as possible. This isn't supposed to be a different style of game, it's supposed to be XIV on the go.
@@lambdafish291 Because they could literally tell you anything, and then go back on it, at release? Wouldn't be the first time a company lies to you lmao.
Movement on a mobile game sucks ass, all those games with free range movement but no Auto play better on PC simply because of that. So most games that try to skirt the problem fall down the Auto path/Auto play trap.
Just like how they talk about no Gacha for monetization, as a mobile game their gonna be monetizing something and whatever it is when we find out will still ruffle a few people's jimmies.
Tbh I’m grateful for no gacha both because - I already play Ever Crisis I don’t need another gacha in my life. Also, I have friends who HATE gachas for moral reasons, so being able to share this story more easily to ppl who can’t or won’t do MMO subscriptions is a lovely option.
If it is Free to Play then the cost of development will be covered as all f2p mobile games are. By the whale spenders. This is how these games work. They literally cannot be sustainable from a cost perspective otherwise. So even if it's not "Gacha" it must have a revenue stream that encourages some users to spend a lot of money. No F2P works without this.
Even if they did some sort of a gatcha systems, thinking back to my DFFOO days, that game was honestly probably the cheapest gatcha I've ever played. Sure, cosmetics were $$$, but building your roster of actual gameplay affecting characters was really not expensive at all. Pretty sure I just did the monthly like gem bundle or whatever for 5 or 10 a month and that's it, and I never had a character I wanted come out that I couldn't get.
Think it would be cool if we could link out pc/console accounts, and we could get special rewards like if I could get mobile exclusive stuff on my main that would definitely incline me playing it im hopeful but still skeptical.
Also, first ever YT comment❤.
I fully expect cross-game promotional content.
this, how are accounts gonna work, also i wonder if this might make them have a free version of the pc version to, would love to be able to buy expansions and do most stuff on free version and have ultimates and end game stuff locked behind a sub hell make teleports a sub only thing to lol i fly everywhere anyways just give us the 3 teleports we set as prefered
Thumbs up for the Lightspeed sponsorship asking for honest review.
Yes, even without money roulette they can sell this separate thing to whomever digs it and then funnel that money into the actual FFXIV. Win win.
FFXIV is funnelling money in to a lot fo failed SE projects. FF7R and FF16 were all funded by 14.
Well, we don't know the %s but with licensing its likely majority of funds would return to Lightspeed. With a big IP like FFXIV its probable they negotiated a pretty high percentage, especially to have the XIV devs supervise Mobile's decisions, but its not like every dollar spent would be going to Square Enix
We got a mobile version of the game before getting more beard options.
As long as it stays seperate i think its great. This gets those without a pc/console a way to experience some of FFXIV. Hopefully they get a similar quality story/gameplay experience
Long term engagement is the goal in standard XIV too. Except they do that by trickling the barest minimum of content every patch to keep you coming back.
Honestly. I'm not going to start over. Unless they let you sync your characters I'm not gonna touch it.
Since they're basically recreating it, I hope they aim to make it even better than the PC version. It'd also be nice if they improved the graphics. Even for mobile, it looks extremely dated.
I'm actually kind of excited for the mobile game. Have friends that mostly play mobile and this might be a way to get them playing. :D
I'm guessing there will be content-gating based on gear level and gear will be upgraded through various materials dropped by dungeons/bosses/whatever. An energy system will cap your progress daily and you may get an hour of progression a day without paying. Whatever gate-keeping energy system will be able to be bypassed by throwing money at the screen one way or another. Maybe by selling the gear upgrade materials directly and/or through a battlepass. Encounters themselves and their rewards might be monetized and sold individually like Diablo Immortal. This doesn't take into account the possibility they might do that with exp/levels as well. Who knows really, but it is mobile and it will be predatory one way or another.
I highly doubt SE would allow the energy based thing since it was hated in OG FFXIV
I couldn't help but notice that the line from Minfilia in the trailer isn't the original VA - it's the one from Heavensward onwards. It makes me wonder if they're completely revoicing ARR for this or if it's just something they did specifically for the trailer.
F2P is REQUIRED for a mobile game in Asia (the target audience imo).
It's fine, a battle pass that awards bikinis, crafting materials and minions could be done, especially if it doesn't expire like the Warbonds in Helldivers 2.
I can also see Retainer slots being a good part of the push, with a bigger emphasis on ventures like in many other mobile games.
What i would love to see is some sort of cross-talk between the desktop and mobile game versions, perhaps with a shared "ultimate" subscription where paying 15€ or 20€ would grand both the desktop subscription, the mobile app kupo nuts and the mobile game premium battlepass.
I hope that their connection is stable so we dont get another situation where people die to landslide when they lag
Personally really interested in this - as someone who has to pinch their pennies more and more these days, a free to play option that allows me to still experience the game (and on the go, no less) is very much welcome, particularly if they've found a way to sidestep gacha features. Plus, here's to hoping and coping that if FFXIV mobile does well enough, they MIGHT return to the idea of FFXI mobile, since FFXI would honestly have benefited far more from this.
have you guys ever heard about black desert and black desert mobile? to me it seems it will be similar
its difficult to imagine how to make a PC/console MMO into mobile format. But here we are, witnessing FF14 going mobile lol. I hope they know what they are doing on this one.
I would imagine it’s similar to how Ever Crisis plays to FF7 Remake. We’ll almost certainly not have even a fraction of the number of buttons as FFXIV Prime.
this could potentially revolutionise mobile gaming
It's funny how I don't see any difference between what is shown in the trailer and the original, so I was not sure whether I was watching the original or mobile version. I guess I'd know the difference if the UI is seen.
Perhaps for the Mobile Client they use an modified Dungeon Helpers NPC AI for the Player for moving around. Some kind of Semi Auto. Perhaps also the fighting is something like the Dungeon AI Helper, just the player can activate some direct commandos. But this is just my guessing how they could make it.
That "Faithfully Recreated" line though... 😅
The only thing that's stopping me from playing it would be no controller/mobile adapter support.
I have a backbone and use it frequently, but some games I can't play disappoint me because the lack of support.
Hopefully this will be answered and supported later if not at launch.
Pretty sure the only way I’d play this is if it contains new voice acting for ARR. That alone would be worth the price of admission. I can’t tell if that was Minfilia’s post or pre ARR voice in the trailer.
I would be cool if they went for a " we are actually on another shard that is very similar to the source but different events take place after the calamity. that would make me actually play it if it was different story but tied to the main games story and eventually comes to a head
Thanks for the interview!
I think its Azure Dragoon cameo in fight with Titan. Thats why he use Stardiver. But who knows...
The reliability of this information coming from paid sponsorships is so minimal. I'm goign to wait for actual news from this and not paid sponsor spots, but this does not look good at all. It looks to be a china-first censored version of the ARR story made by a company notorious for generative AI usage, shoveled out into the market. It doesn't leave me hopeful at all even with segments like this saying "see look it's not gacha", it's still a f2p chinese mobile game it's not going to be very consumer friendly in the slightest.
If they make big money from it and actually invest into original FF14 I would wholeheartedly support mobile version
I can see its appeal for mobile players in parts of the world that have more support for those games. But for me who has been playing since Heavensward, I really dont see myself playing this on my phone. Especially if its basically the same story over again.
I would have really taken an interest if they had a different story set in the same world. Like they are literally sitting on the dystopian timeline where certain events happen that I wont elaborate on due to spoilers.
But imagine being an adventurer in this hostile timeline helping others with ideals that pretty much fly in the face of the whole "every man for himself" way of thinking?
I’m not sure if I want this version of the game to cover future expansions or to diverge from post ARR, I think the latter could be pretty cool running parallel to the main game and seeing how different things get
That new skill on the monk is sick !
The game design of an MMORPG is largely a consequence of monetization. FFXIV is designed around the subscription model (although lately the system has some cracks, and the patches practically always arrive later and are smaller and more divided, where it almost doesn't seem like you're paying a subscription). However, this mobile game will practically be a different game. To change the business model, you also have to change the design
I’m betting whenever Nintendo does their new switch presentation, this is the one game that will show up in the 3rd party lineup
Minfilia's VA sounds different in the trailer. Im guessing we will getting re recording for ARR msq
God I hope so 😭
as long as it doesn't take away from the version of the game that matters, they can make whatever they want
As someone who stopped subbing years ago, I was hoping I'd be able to pick up where I left off in this version. Oh well, at least there's no gacha crap.
If it's not the grindiest thing in the world, and if there's controller support, I might still try it to experience the story.
I'm really curious if we are getting 8 man Prae or the new 4 person version
100% the 4-man version. 8-man Prae was always a hot mess and mobile gaming is not ideal for really long cutscenes in the middle of a dungeon.
I would also assume the 4 man version. I assume they'd opt into 4 people wherever possible
Im here for it. Im absolutely here for it. Im looking forward to it. Is it gonna be mobile? Yes. Are there concerns about gacha and micro transactions? Of course. But do I trust yoshi P? Absolutely. That man has saved, innovated and has basically been the father, leader and direct voice of 14. It may not be the same as on pc, but i would love to be able to have the experience in a mobile form factor. And i know that yoshi p and the community wont allow certain things that would allow the name to get bismerched. So im happy for this announcement but still vigilant about what the other forces may make him and the team do.
Prolly battle pass and glam shop(which they should focus more on in main game to be honest, more outfits).
This is what I think it will be. Let the glam market fund the game, and let the gameplay part be free and unaffected.
@ That’s pretty much how old PSO2 worked it was the fashion that funded the game and you paid “rent” for your apartment 😂 I believe NGS does the same now too. No pay 2 win you can literally just enjoy the game if you are on a budget and spend on glam when you want.
It also brings the question if I can play this on a Tablet as well... Which I assume that it will but I can imagine playing this more on a Tablet than a Phone and if so, Makes me consider more to get a Ipad with the new M4 chip in em, Something to play and Something to do art on.
Tablet is the big reason I want mobile controller support, just for the bigger screen lol
EDIT: im leaving this comment here since i still feel they partially apply, but i did type this before getting to the mention of controls and honestly unless they made the game only compatible with controller or mouse and keyboard i cant see of a way that they could make the current controls work on screen, so with that in mind i feel less bothered by the mobile version but still think they shouldve done something else with it (maybe add the ARR in a condensed update like KH union cross did with the story from KH X)
as much as i will be checking it out when it comes out i feel like they kinda wasted a chance to do something really amazing or really original. if you are anyone who has a pc or console (non switch) then there is really no reason to play this since the free trial of ff14 surpasses most of the content included in mobile (as far as we know). If they wanted to open up the doors for mobile users to play ff14 they really shouldve just bit the bullet and make a low spec copy of the console version. I know that doing it that way the game probably wouldnt be as pretty (thinking fortnite mobile as a comparison) but then there wouldnt have to be a worry about playerbase and lack of content not to mention it probably would be easy to port to switch.
on the other hand they couldve done something more orignal or seperate from FF14 something close enough gameplay wise old timers wouldnt be alienated but not so close to the original that it basically loses all reason to play it if you are a veteran or if you are currently playing FF14.
the only people i can think of that might enjoy it even after playing FF14 is the dumbasses like me who can afford ff14 rn and need something to scratch the itch.
I looking forward to seeing how the combat works.
Kinda interested in it, but worried that it won't be available in many countries cuz region lock. In SE's eyes, SEA region sometimes doesn't exist.
Worry not, the one who develops and publishes is Lightspeed/Tencent for sure. Ofcourse they won't leave SEA out.
They have literally no reason to block SEA when it's the biggest part of mobile gaming
That is not what i meant when i was dreaming about Vanilla FFXIV...
SE has already EoL so many of their FF mobile games (Record Keeper, Opera Omnia, Brave Exvius, Final Fantasy VII: The First Soldier, Mobius) Most of those had gacha so how would they even make money on this to keep it running?
tencent wants its M O N E Y 💰💰💰
Hold up, that's not Minfilia's original VA. Is ARR getting new voiceovers?
I have a hard time imagining players being into this unless they make exclusive rewards that transfer to the main FF14 game account, in which case, will the player actually be wanting to play mobile, or would the feel compelled to and thus lose interest in the FF14 universe as a whole?
Okay having no Gacha takes care of one of my big two concerns. The other is combat gameplay. I can't really imagine anything close to FFXIV working on a touch screen only. This is going to be a very hard sell for me, but I'll keep an open mind until we get a more direct look at how control and combat will work.
World First Mobile Ultimate fights 😉
im gonna tell you what people who's a non ffxiv player, mobile game players think, they judge the game by the graphics and their opinion rn is "meh"
I want it to be separate but, I wouldn't mind if I could unlock some cool cosmetics for base xiv for playing.
Might give my friends a try who don't want to play the normal retail version. The fights will be dumb down but least will see wtf I talk about my old days in 14. Curious what Summoner be like if it's even in it from seeing the Lala's. Larry will be Happy I assume if we got our Dot Mage back in this version lol.
But i'm more concern on yes Monetization, How the combat will work (I'm thinking prolly Monster Hunter Now Movement. Dunno) and worse of all. Is my Relic of a Phone gonna Burst into Flames moment I hit the title Screen. I feel the Specs on this is going to hit High End Phones to keep up the process and battery life.
I wonder how popular it'll be globally. Like, will people pick it up as a side game? Switch over completely? Even if I were interested, I can't see myself playing 2 different versions of XIV.
for the Skills, I would think the Chinese players would be really miserable playing with the lv50 skills only (if it begins with only ARR)
Playing synced to 50 is an horrible experience whatever job you play on nowadays
The devs should know better that you don't face titans tankbuster into the healer.
I would love to see teaser and trailer incorperate better how the game mechanics work.
WoW also did this a lot and I was just scratching my head if they don't know how the actual game works. Hurricane is the best example if it comes to his wow videos, he makes insanely good trailer while also staying true to the ingame player experience by incorperating actual player behavior into his scenes.
Knowing FF well enough, the fight of titan looks nothing like you would experience yourself ever. It looks more like the typical afk autobattler mobile game ads. While it doesn't necessarily makes it a bad game, I am less interested in trying if the trailer is already inaccurate about the ingame experience. I think trailer would be much more appealing if they are either flashed out and fancy or display very well what you would expect when playing the game. This kinda does neither. I know this is nit picking, but this is going on for years and I never thought this kind of presentation is interesting or natural.
No gatcha is the best game for me because every gatcha always Got ruined by whales player
Imagine sweating when you hear free
I agree about the controller. I imagine This would be great game to play in bed with a Backbone if it allows it
if they add controller support than this mobile version will be really good. I hate having to using digital joysticks
I don't think there is much pull for PC players to the mobile version. These are vastly different markets because of the gameplay designs (mobile grinds, energy systems, dollar-to-win, fomo, etc). I know what f2p mobile gaming is like without gacha and it's still very lackluster.
my bet their main monetization are either through skins (glamour), bazillion currencies for upgrades and auto-battle system. how else can a free game with no gacha make money? just look at Ragnarok Origin
Renda Rae in the red dress....rawr! :)
I am looking forward to trying ff14 mobile 😊
i personally think this is a bad move
1:40 we know why thancred doesn't woo women anymore he has a "party member" he needs to be with now
My only interaction with this game will be to get rewards from the the base game. As long as that is not paywalled I don't really care about it's existence.
finally, ffxiv oldschool
Imagine a better running ARR on mobile, without the PC/console's spaghetti code
Never played mobile, never will but cool I guess. As long as it is a separate game it doesn't bother me at all
I'm more confused in general as to who this is for. Cause it's not for existing players, because why would we want to go back and redo all of the story, on mobile of all platforms? So it must be for new players, but then why would they want to play it on mobile? Especially when the type of players who seek out mobile stuff like this, will ultimately stick around for gacha mechanincs, which we are now told this won't have.
I give it a year or two of life, before Squenix announces it didn't meet revenue projections, and pulls the plug on the servers
Why play mobile? Because there are millions of people in other countries like China who only play on mobile and do not own and also cannot afford PCs or consoles.
@FF-tp7qs I know that, but I don't see how they will opt to play FFXIV over any of the hundreds of gacha games they already abuse
@andrewichigo there's plenty of non gacha games to play as well
@andrewichigo Toram Online is a 9 years MMO on phone right now. Although it has awful graphics but still is the top quality/favorite MMO of millions people. See? there is a market for it. FF14 could be a big hit in this market if they manage it right.
What about specs? Does it really run like teaser on a normal phone? Or u need like a rog phone? Another thing its the space. How many Gb will it be? Like 30Gb? I think this is the basic of all. Like FF7EC, not all phones run the game and FF14 will push much more than Ever Crises
Can mobile games without gacha be financially successful?
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Curious about the systems and differences though currently not likely to play it, but gotta say…the gacha jokes are still funny. Can’t blame people when there’s been some large gacha games released across platforms includjngnouknes
Fans are still in denial, wait until the game launches, it's a mobile MMOs like any other, they are all cheap money grabbing trashy applications.
Only way I’d even touch it is if they give like… codes for glamor or mounts in the main game, otherwise y bother?
I wonder what the mobile hardware requirements will be
You know what this is gonna play like? Black Desert Online mobile. Dont kid yourselves that it will be different
So ... what happens if you can't kevel up all jobs on one character... without paying for each class.
Then okay the original game ?
Why can't I connect to my PC WoL? I'm guessing gameplay wise there's no longer a need to move around in battle. It's gonna be skill button mashing. It should have been a companion game that can standalone. Like a tactics game based FFXIV. Battle at Cartaneu prologue to orient us with the controls and gameplay, then jump in to the background battles that happen alongside Warrior of Light's adventure, first recruitables are gonna be sprout adventurers, then progressing to Heavensward, tier 2 jobs, dragoons, summoners etc, moving to stormblood, bigger battles because it's war with the imperials. And I'd be alright with the Gacha if we get the strategy game, getting an Aymeric, getting a Hien for the Stormblood wars. Or Rauhbahn with immortal flames recruits. man. I'd subscribe to that battle pass everyday if we get a tactics game like that. even if they went with sprites for graphics.
zero confidence with tencent involved
This video is quite the nothingburger, but Happy that Mr Haps got paid for it, good for you 😺♥
Lightspeed? The Tencent company?
My brother, you played XIV. Were you sleepwalking when Riol told you that you need to pay attention to where your money is coming from?
There is almost no ethical spending nowadays. Tencent has a hand in a lot of things people do/play, and almost anything/everything we own has moral lines that are crossed to make them.
Not going to act like this is some big deal lol
I dont see how pvp rotations would work either. Even the most complex phone games limit themselves to 4 or 5 buttons total.
1 PVP style combo action, 2 offensive actions that transform into follow up actions, 2 support actions that may/may not transform
Wake me up when they make the ffxiv dating Sim