That was so awesome that you could find those old monuments after so long. You guys are amazing. fI took note that you placed the old monument back by the cap to keep the historical record.
We set a new monument in place of the stone, inverted the stone and buried it next to the new monument and called it out in the land corner recordation certificate. We also left the majority of the crockery/glass in place and only took a few pieces home. I just didn't film the entire process because I wasn't planning on making a whole video of it.
Different system in Australia. Survey marks came in many different forms but were related to road and land boundaries rather than the centrelines of roads. Makes a lot of sense when I saw these guys digging up a road to find the Survey monuments. I had the misfortune of working on some land boundaries set out during WW2 in a small town. A US engineer group had done the survey stake out and all the monuments were buried under 2 to 3 feet of compacted road base gravels and various layers of bitumen seal. Marking the boundary of 1 parcel of land took 5 times longer than it should have. Didn't have an excavator, had to dig for each monument by hand.
Very cool to see todays process. Thank you! Although, in 1976 -1981, when I worked for a county surveyors office in Indiana and two private surveyors, the tools were chain, site rod, transit, shovels and gas powered jack hammer. Ah... the memories. Nothing like a jack hammer ringing in your ears. No better feeling than digging up a perfectly good paved road on a hot day to spark drivers to share creative comments while you do your job locating cornerstones. We used the high point of the cornerstone unless an "X" was carved in the rock. Fun days were walking along railroad tracks looking for RR spikes (a few buckets full) to be used as witness points or spending the day cutting scrapyard steel plumbing pipe to various lengths for placing over newly found cornerstones. I enjoy watching your videos so keep up the good work!
So the glass was simply to identify that the stone you pulled up was the exact stone they buried, because it's got the unique identifier of the glass or porcelain or crockery below it?
Why do Americans place their marks so close to the surface? In Australia we've used Iron rods buried at least 300-500mm under the ground for each 'block' IP for over 150 years - each of these IP's have reference marks ( the same type of iron rods) also buried 3-500mm underground. It's not usual - though not uncommon - to see rods from the late 1800's all rusted up and bulbed out.
That was so awesome that you could find those old monuments after so long. You guys are amazing. fI took note that you placed the old monument back by the cap to keep the historical record.
I am a Land Surveyor and my jaw dropped when they took THE ORIGINAL STONE out. A Cardinal Sin in my book.
We set a new monument in place of the stone, inverted the stone and buried it next to the new monument and called it out in the land corner recordation certificate. We also left the majority of the crockery/glass in place and only took a few pieces home. I just didn't film the entire process because I wasn't planning on making a whole video of it.
Scripture: Remove not the ancient landmark. It fits, right?----- Title examiner.
Different system in Australia. Survey marks came in many different forms but were related to road and land boundaries rather than the centrelines of roads. Makes a lot of sense when I saw these guys digging up a road to find the Survey monuments. I had the misfortune of working on some land boundaries set out during WW2 in a small town. A US engineer group had done the survey stake out and all the monuments were buried under 2 to 3 feet of compacted road base gravels and various layers of bitumen seal. Marking the boundary of 1 parcel of land took 5 times longer than it should have. Didn't have an excavator, had to dig for each monument by hand.
Very cool to see todays process. Thank you! Although, in 1976 -1981, when I worked for a county surveyors office in Indiana and two private surveyors, the tools were chain, site rod, transit, shovels and gas powered jack hammer. Ah... the memories. Nothing like a jack hammer ringing in your ears. No better feeling than digging up a perfectly good paved road on a hot day to spark drivers to share creative comments while you do your job locating cornerstones. We used the high point of the cornerstone unless an "X" was carved in the rock. Fun days were walking along railroad tracks looking for RR spikes (a few buckets full) to be used as witness points or spending the day cutting scrapyard steel plumbing pipe to various lengths for placing over newly found cornerstones. I enjoy watching your videos so keep up the good work!
So why did you quit?
It's like someone directly handing you the glass only over 150 yrs of time. That was really neat
What happens if stone is off per GPS by several inches....or feet? Which prevails?
I land surveyed for 20 years in Michigan and did my share of remon. Found two from late 1800s 4ft down and exactly the way they were described
Very cool.
Oldest I came across was a monument from 1902, iron pipe with a brass cap set in a curb.
Awesome finds!
Fascinating stuff! I was very drawn to drafting in high school in the 80's. I wish I would've followed it.
Great explanation for perpetuating the monuments. your videos are good! Keep up the good work.
So the glass was simply to identify that the stone you pulled up was the exact stone they buried, because it's got the unique identifier of the glass or porcelain or crockery below it?
Yup. I think that’s the main reason
I lost 34 feet of my property because of a 1850 mistake and all the surveyor said was fight it out in court if you don't like it .
Was that a land lot line corner?? That glass was a 8 sided umbrella ink bottle 1870s
Why do Americans place their marks so close to the surface? In Australia we've used Iron rods buried at least 300-500mm under the ground for each 'block' IP for over 150 years - each of these IP's have reference marks ( the same type of iron rods) also buried 3-500mm underground. It's not usual - though not uncommon - to see rods from the late 1800's all rusted up and bulbed out.
What do you guys use at your place to database your survey work/information?
I have completed my geomatics engineering 5 years ago and i have worked around 4 years in surveying and mapping field. Can we connect?
Mind if i ask you what your educational pathway was ?
Why are monuments in the middle of the road? Seems so unnecessary and inconvenient
The section corners came first when the land was originally divided. Then trails and later roads followed section lines for convenience.