Least of all by the Clans themselves. They were rather impressed. The named a class of dropship after her. "Sing, but of Tyra also, For though an enemy, her courage none can deny" - The Remembrance
@@SulliMike23, no. That part of the Remembrance, passage 294 to be precise, is attributed by Sarna to be written by Clan Wolf. It was their ship she kamikazed, Smoke Jaguar's Khan just happened to be on board.
The moment the Clans understood that the Inner Sphere would fight to the last. The moment they didn't quite lose the Invasion, but gave the Sphere time to win. And all the while, they're more focused on petty internal politics than unfucking themselves.
The Clans lost as soon as they decided to "race" to Terra instead of invading as a coordinated force of overlapping cover and assistance. The internal rivalry that had been a part of the Clans for centuries needed to be dropped as soon as the invasion was planned. The rivalries were designed to keep the Clans sharp during their time of isolation. Batchalls and bidding away assets was a way to keep the destruction of the rivalries to a minimum during their isolation. The Clans assuming that the Inner Sphere would fight on their terms was what killed the invasion. The shock and rage it caused distracted clan warriors from fighting at their best and eventually, getting suckered into the Tukkyid trial.
That's what happens when you don't listen to Clan Star Adder. The seemingly only Clan who knows how to think strategically. That and thinking that the IS wouldn't dare to counter strike like the FedCom did at Twycross
@@swordmonkey6635 Even if the Clans had reached Tera Comstar would have made that a bloodbath on par if not worse then Tukkyid, no way the clans would have been able to hold that position for long Fighting an uphill battle against a far superior industrial and population base while tying themselves with one arm behind their back It's all just a parallel to Germany of ww2, superior tactics and an edge on technology won't win a war if it devolves to attrition especially when ideology holds you back from what's strategically sound the "race" to Tera is just peak clan culture hubris. All the "what ifs" is like people who say "if only Germany had done this" but ultimately that'd require them to be rational and not blinded by their ideologies
@@Fancypants117 The fact that in one conversation i think it's in game or a cutscene they say Leo Showers expects to be at Terra within 1 year is peak hubris. To think they could blitz from one end of the Inner Sphere to the centre without the full might of the Inner sphere coming down on them was pure delusion.
Indeed. What gets me is that all the Battletech stuff I've experienced up to now, space battles were almost non-existent. The closest thing I've seen hinted to space combat was the lost battleship, and occasional guns on drop ships in Mechassault. So this was a treat for sure.
@@garysnook3591 Clearly whoever is or was in charge of the Universe. Warships had been growing in size and power in the Inner Sphere up to the point of the first Succession War, as the tech was known , the infrastructure in place and the setting understood that both ships and mechs had roles to play in warfare. Then they decided to bomb all that and give every house a combined case of stupidity. Are Warships hard to make? Most certainly, but that goes for every space faring society, do they have the technology? Difficult to say, but technically they can recreate it, more importantly do they have the money and will? Absolutely. Even the poorest of the Succession states has ridiculous amounts of money and they are warmongering people by nature, so of course they would want Warships. Recreating the Infrastructure may not be easy, but all of them have relatively easy access to space, space resources and vast industrial power. More than that, Warships represent a lot of things, force projection, defensive capability, interdiction, deterrent and so much more, they more than pay for themselves in many ways. But the universe is hellbent on not making this happen, which is ridiculous, but here we are.
I like how both a fury-class dropship at 0:11 and a vengeance-class fighter carrier at 1:05 are shown. Really keeps to how the battle of radstadt was described in battlespace. Although it would have been nice to see more ASF's in combat considering the escorting Flying Drakons were a reinforced fighter regiment.
Insane that all of this great bit of storytelling came from the same studio which gave us "generic mercenary guy hunting for his father's killer" five years ago... PGI really listened their fans
To bad the game itself is kind of a dumpster fire at the moment. A lot of bad design decisions when it comes to UI, equipment balance and general "economic" systems.
well, to be fair, the 'generic mercenary guy hunting for his fathers killer' is a very basic and easy story if you're not playing a Clanner, a member of the Great Houses, or a Retainer of a Great House.
@@ServantOfOdin Yes, but that doesn't count as an excuse to execute that premise in such a straight forward, boring way. In that sense, I think they could've adapted the Gray Death Legion trilogy and achieved a much better result.
Yeah, but in fairness to everyone other than PGI, this story had been written by a good dozen authors, line writers, and designers. PGI has done an excellent job pulling all the source material together into an excellent rendition of the material, but that is, IMO, a good bit less challenging than actually coming up with storylines and plot beats from whole cloth.
@@Berek71182Yep. I also hope we get mention of one of the funniest Batchalls to occur, if not outright partake in it... That being when Clan Ghost Bear got challenged to a Football match for planetary control... Which was the favorite sport of Ghost Bear elementals.
*@captainkirk4271 --* [1:32] The tragic irony being that Tor Miraborg *would NOT* feel any pride over Tyra Miraborg's sacrifice, only grief and loss of his only child. Even heavier for Tor's grief-burden, the last words between Tor and Mira were negative, with Tyra telling her father how she was ashamed she was of Tor's prideful arrogance.
@@pendrake40 Another sad bit of irony was how she thought of Phelan, who she thought was dead at the time, wondering if her soul will find his when this was over. He was alive and well on the Dire Wolf, so she almost reunited with him in a messy way!
@@pendrake40 but he ended up giving up Günzburg. and spare it the battle of an invasion when Phelan Kell - well Phelan Ward - came to his office later in his ritual wolf mask. that's also the time when phelan first learned she was dead
@@Atlas3060 -- Correct. Tyra and Phelan Kell were passionately in love. So much so that Phelan had petitioned his father Morgan Kell to have Tyra join the Kell Hounds mercenary unit, strongly hinting that Phelan intended to soon propose marriage to Tyra. But after Tor Miraborg nearly incurred the wrath of the Kell Hounds by (indirectly) having Phelan beaten up, and (directly) arrested, Tyra felt too much (personal) shame to join the Kell Hounds; but Tyra felt even greater shame of her father, thus why Tyra took a posting with the First Rasalhague Drakons, a prestigious posting which Tor could not refuse to allow. So ultimately, Tor's arrogant pride in trying to keep his daughter safe and at home (planet Gunzburg), resulted in driving Tyra away from Gunzburg and more importantly, himself. Thus as said, all the more tragic in that Tor and Tyra last words to each other were of Tyra hoping she would never have to see &/or speak to Tor ever again.
@@pendrake40 The peak of lifestory's grief. How people tell each other about things they continue to regret, unable to deal with the resentment they feel because of remorse.
this was in fact the first space battle described in any of the books. the next was, when operation snake began and the battlegroup of the inner sphere went for huntress, and stumbled upon a ghost bear detachement... that was pretty intense and i nearly jumped out of my chair when i read that back in the day. 30 books of battletech, and only the second ever space battle
Mechwarrior 2: Ghost Bear's Legacy had a mission where you had to fight from the deck of Clan star Cruiser to disable a ship involved in stealing the genetic material of the founders of your clan and then board it (in mechs of course). That was the first video game experience with Battletech space battles that I remember.
@@nikushim6665 Yeah. Heat sinks seemed to be optimized for on planet warfare, but I would think that the extreme cold of space if the sinks were functional would help mitigate heat build up and heat diffusion via thermodynamics.
I always hated that the Jihad basically took Warships out of use completely. I think the universe is so much cooler when there are still naval fleets getting into huge space battles
The Setting has always done its best to try and keep Warships from being a thing. Tintavel and the ARES Conventions, the Succession Wars, The Jihad, Clan Snow Raven and... not doing anything. That's why Pocket Warships are a thing now, I wager. For the Naval stuff, without being so absurd.
@@56bturn It absolutely didn't, FASA tried its best to make it a thing but Battlespace and its associated mini's just didn't sell all that well. GW had similar issues with Battlefleet gothic.
For as dumb as they were, that's something I always liked about the Covenant ships in Halo. The bridge was deep in the vessel most of the time. and the times they weren't like the corvette, you couldn't tell just by looking as on the outside, it just looks like more hull.
@@Servellion there is also a ton of non combat related reasons why a design like this is a shit idea Solar flare: your command crew gets chernobyl-ed Accidental collision: your command crew get squished Micro meteroids smashing through the windows: your command crew gets sucked into space
That is a McKenna Class Battleship. A pretty old design by Battletech standards. In the later books, where it is about the invasion of huntress, the bridge is said to be deep inside the ships.
The bridge IS deep inside the ship. Some people who were in the bridge (including Wolf Khan Ulric Kerensky) survived the hit. The bridge didn't get decompressed and exposed to vacuum by the hit. It's just that the Drakon's mass and momentum caused the hull to buckle and a bunch of internal spalling crushed the CIC "ball" deep within the ship.
Tyra of the Rasalhague led, Forth her fiery flying Drakøns, Gallant in bronze. A warrior woman whose hands Were unskilled in the ways of hearth and home, In skills of war she was hard and trained To leave behind the airy winds and fight Where the void is eternal and life fleeting. Tyra and her warriors fought Like crazed demons above Radstadt. When her fighter was crippled by ours, And her life leaked away into the endless night, She chose to die And sent her fighter like a spear Through the Dire Wolf, claiming as isorla Our mighty ilKhan's life. Sing of our loss, warriors! Sing, but of Tyra also, For though an enemy, her courage none can deny.
The game is over balance in favor of Mechs (they are the stars of the show) but this does not mean that they are useless, and game mechanics, vs a more real time mechanics tends to showcase the strengths and weaknesses of each unit. Mechs are big, heavy and powerful, they are siege rams, siege breakers and true destroyers, but they are still slow compared to aircraft, who while weaker, are faster and can carry very specialized weapons and equipment against mechs. Mech units would need to keep at least one dedicated anti-aircraft mech to be useful otherwise they will soon be destroyed by units they may not even be able to target. But if a mech scores a hit on a fighter, that fighter is almost certainly gone and that capability is lost. Each unit has its strengths and weaknesses after all.
@@Keemperor40K have you read the Strategic Operations rulebook? Mechs in space get their movement reduced to almost nothing, have to add a +4 modifier to all their attacks (they’re considered long range no matter what) and can only attack targets in the same hex as them (whereas aerospace fighters have all sorts of multi hex ranges in space.) Also, if a mech moves on the hull of a ship, it needs to make a PSR roll or fall of the ship into the void of space. The unit its on changes direction? Another PSR roll for falling off the hull. What happens when the mech falls of the hull I hear you ask? Great question. If it has no jump jets it’s immediately removed from the match. And even if it has jump jets, their thrust rating is only equivalent to their jump MP divided by 3. Which is absolutely pathetic compared to the movement of the fighters. Oh, and any thrust spent by a mech is another automatic PSR roll with a +2 modifier that, if it fails, will send the mech spinning out of control. Let’s face it, the rules are explicitly designed to make mechs virtually worthless in space, and you stating random lore and fluff doesn’t change that.
@@BabyJaguar28 the original poster was clearly talking about the ground combat game, not the space combat game. In Space yes mechs are basically mobile point defense and nothing more, outside of that they are useless as they are not designed or meant to work in that environment. In Space its space or aero-space fighters and ships, mechs are just token for the sake o using them and because as I said they do work as point defense. The ground game is where mechs are over emphasized and the tables are sort of turned so that Mechs can deal with aircraft (realistically they shouldn't but that's a different topic). Heck even in the ground game there are ways to deal with mechs without having to use Mechs and that is with artillery, which showcases how utterly ridiculous Mechs ultimately are (but Mechs are cool so we go with it)
@@Keemperor40K the original comment said he was “surprised to see fighters handling so well” as in during the video, in *space* He then followed up with saying mechs were generally better than fighters on the tabletop, at which point he was indeed talking about the ground combat rules (presumably since few people know the space rules) I then informed him that the space rules, (the rules that apply to his initial statement of the fighters “handling well”) make mechs useless, which is why the fighters in the video were performing so well. Then YOU came in trying to contradict my statement of mechs being useless by quoting ground combat lore, which did not apply to the statement I made whatsoever. It seems you either did not read comments thoroughly enough or didn’t comprehend the situation.
And that, kids, is why windows on an insterstellar vessel of war is dumb as hell. And relying on ground units to act as point-defense and anti-fighter platforms???
It's the future. And yet the bridge is still in the vulnerable front that will take the most oncoming damage and has a glass window..... Someone make this make sense?
The Free Rasalhague Republic made a big deal out of her heroic sacrifice, with a medal and academy named after her. The Clans were so awed by her bravery and sacrifice which killed their ilKhan, she has a passage in the Clans' Rememberance (the closest thing they have to a holy book), and the Clans also named a new dropship the Miraborg class after her So yes, they definitely knew who she is
@@SoranPryde To add to what Soran said, Clan warriors all want a glorious end in battle. To die of old age is a curse, to waste away. They want to die young, screaming defiance in the faces of their enemies in service to their clan, and Tyra Miraborg just set a new standard by which Clanners could measure themselves. Even though she was an enemy, the Clans looked at what she accomplished in her final moments, sat back, and went "Yeah. Like that. When I go, I want it to be like *that*."
@@SoranPryde such a wild badge of honor that is "yeah this random pilot killed our ilkhan in such an amazing and selfless way we put her in our bible" such a cool moment
Ya I noticed, that to really stupid, and un believable some one of such high rank, and esteem would ever dress like that, especially the clans who are obsessed with honor, and image.
@@alexanderewing6312 I still have not played. I am waiting for the handful of critics I trust. The gameplay looks good but the story and character writing seem…… off. Yes Clanners step up young but this looks like all high school students. It’s like an anime where everyone is always 15 for some reason. IRL most combat aviators are in their late 20’s before they are even considered combat ready much less top of the class. True, piloting a mech is not aviating. After twenty years in aviation I can tell you it does not favor the young.
@@mikewaterfield3599 One of the many great features of clan society, let their leadership caste select for the brutal and bloodthirsty and let average life expectancy for said caste be in the 40's. I'd love to see the elder Kerensky's reaction to what became of his dream.
well in the books it is written that some of the mechwarriors tend to shave parts of their head in order for the neurosensors in their neuro helmets (that are needed to actually steer a battlemech) can better focus on their neuro signals. so it kind of makes sense.
@@joeblogs8049 Ive known the lore since the early ‘90s at least the senior ones are scarred up. Thing is the clanners were using better Nuero helms and cooling vests. A shaved head makes sense. This however is the cliche activist half shave.
Sadly the gameplay is way too arcade like and easy , the cockpits are overloaded with information you cant deactivate while ignoring the chance of making the cockpits themselves interacvtive like in Elite. No capture of destroyed Mechs from the battlefied, no research...etc. Huge flaws I am critical of ever being fixed. Right now its a 7/10 game at best but could get better ifthey work in it.
Tyra Miraborg, you will not be forgotten!
Least of all by the Clans themselves. They were rather impressed. The named a class of dropship after her.
"Sing, but of Tyra also,
For though an enemy, her courage none can deny" - The Remembrance
So epic that she got her very own part in the song of Clan Wolf's history.
@@enoughothis Actually it was Clan Smoke Jaguar who wrote that part of the Remembrance.
@@SulliMike23, no. That part of the Remembrance, passage 294 to be precise, is attributed by Sarna to be written by Clan Wolf. It was their ship she kamikazed, Smoke Jaguar's Khan just happened to be on board.
@@SulliMike23 And roughly a hundred years after, Miraborg became a bloodname with Clan Ghost Bear.
To Tyra Miraborg, a woman who was so badass, even the CLANS made a statue of her for killing their ilKhan! 🫡❤️🤘
Statue? They named a DropShip class after her.
@@andrewsuryali8540 that too.
She even got several lines in the remembrance. The first "Freebirth" to do so.
The moment the Clans understood that the Inner Sphere would fight to the last. The moment they didn't quite lose the Invasion, but gave the Sphere time to win.
And all the while, they're more focused on petty internal politics than unfucking themselves.
The Clans lost as soon as they decided to "race" to Terra instead of invading as a coordinated force of overlapping cover and assistance. The internal rivalry that had been a part of the Clans for centuries needed to be dropped as soon as the invasion was planned. The rivalries were designed to keep the Clans sharp during their time of isolation. Batchalls and bidding away assets was a way to keep the destruction of the rivalries to a minimum during their isolation. The Clans assuming that the Inner Sphere would fight on their terms was what killed the invasion. The shock and rage it caused distracted clan warriors from fighting at their best and eventually, getting suckered into the Tukkyid trial.
That's what happens when you don't listen to Clan Star Adder. The seemingly only Clan who knows how to think strategically. That and thinking that the IS wouldn't dare to counter strike like the FedCom did at Twycross
@@swordmonkey6635 Even if the Clans had reached Tera Comstar would have made that a bloodbath on par if not worse then Tukkyid, no way the clans would have been able to hold that position for long
Fighting an uphill battle against a far superior industrial and population base while tying themselves with one arm behind their back
It's all just a parallel to Germany of ww2, superior tactics and an edge on technology won't win a war if it devolves to attrition especially when ideology holds you back from what's strategically sound
the "race" to Tera is just peak clan culture hubris. All the "what ifs" is like people who say "if only Germany had done this" but ultimately that'd require them to be rational and not blinded by their ideologies
@@Athrun82 Until they decided that clearly the best thing to happen to the Clans would be The Wars of Reaving.
@@Fancypants117 The fact that in one conversation i think it's in game or a cutscene they say Leo Showers expects to be at Terra within 1 year is peak hubris. To think they could blitz from one end of the Inner Sphere to the centre without the full might of the Inner sphere coming down on them was pure delusion.
that's a kind of space battle you don't see often.
Indeed. What gets me is that all the Battletech stuff I've experienced up to now, space battles were almost non-existent. The closest thing I've seen hinted to space combat was the lost battleship, and occasional guns on drop ships in Mechassault. So this was a treat for sure.
@@garysnook3591 Clearly whoever is or was in charge of the Universe.
Warships had been growing in size and power in the Inner Sphere up to the point of the first Succession War, as the tech was known , the infrastructure in place and the setting understood that both ships and mechs had roles to play in warfare.
Then they decided to bomb all that and give every house a combined case of stupidity.
Are Warships hard to make? Most certainly, but that goes for every space faring society, do they have the technology? Difficult to say, but technically they can recreate it, more importantly do they have the money and will? Absolutely.
Even the poorest of the Succession states has ridiculous amounts of money and they are warmongering people by nature, so of course they would want Warships.
Recreating the Infrastructure may not be easy, but all of them have relatively easy access to space, space resources and vast industrial power.
More than that, Warships represent a lot of things, force projection, defensive capability, interdiction, deterrent and so much more, they more than pay for themselves in many ways.
But the universe is hellbent on not making this happen, which is ridiculous, but here we are.
@@Blueoriontiger in the book series where they go to huntress in operation snake and bulldog there are several space battles, which are pretty epic.
Tyra bought the whole inner sphere a chance to catch their breath
I like how both a fury-class dropship at 0:11 and a vengeance-class fighter carrier at 1:05 are shown. Really keeps to how the battle of radstadt was described in battlespace. Although it would have been nice to see more ASF's in combat considering the escorting Flying Drakons were a reinforced fighter regiment.
GLORY TO RASALHAGUE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
Insane that all of this great bit of storytelling came from the same studio which gave us "generic mercenary guy hunting for his father's killer" five years ago...
PGI really listened their fans
To bad the game itself is kind of a dumpster fire at the moment. A lot of bad design decisions when it comes to UI, equipment balance and general "economic" systems.
That is the clans for you. They always had the more interesting stories.
well, to be fair, the 'generic mercenary guy hunting for his fathers killer' is a very basic and easy story if you're not playing a Clanner, a member of the Great Houses, or a Retainer of a Great House.
@@ServantOfOdin Yes, but that doesn't count as an excuse to execute that premise in such a straight forward, boring way. In that sense, I think they could've adapted the Gray Death Legion trilogy and achieved a much better result.
Yeah, but in fairness to everyone other than PGI, this story had been written by a good dozen authors, line writers, and designers. PGI has done an excellent job pulling all the source material together into an excellent rendition of the material, but that is, IMO, a good bit less challenging than actually coming up with storylines and plot beats from whole cloth.
Too bad we didn't get to see Phelan Kell and Ulric Kerensky here. But otherwise a great representation of what happened in the novels.
I see that happening in an expansion. Taking the invasion from other clan points of view... such as Wolf, Ghost Bear and the Jade Falcons.
@@swordmonkey6635
As much as i like Clan Wolf i rather choose Ghost Bear as DLC.
There are already enough dedicated books about Wolf and Jade Falcon.
@@Berek71182Yep. I also hope we get mention of one of the funniest Batchalls to occur, if not outright partake in it... That being when Clan Ghost Bear got challenged to a Football match for planetary control... Which was the favorite sport of Ghost Bear elementals.
@@Berek71182 I'm pretty sure that all the invading Clans are going to end up getting DLC. That way they can introduce faction specific mechs.
"If you see my father... tell him, I made him proud!"
*@captainkirk4271 --* [1:32] The tragic irony being that Tor Miraborg *would NOT* feel any pride over Tyra Miraborg's sacrifice, only grief and loss of his only child.
Even heavier for Tor's grief-burden, the last words between Tor and Mira were negative, with Tyra telling her father how she was ashamed she was of Tor's prideful arrogance.
@@pendrake40 Another sad bit of irony was how she thought of Phelan, who she thought was dead at the time, wondering if her soul will find his when this was over. He was alive and well on the Dire Wolf, so she almost reunited with him in a messy way!
@@pendrake40 but he ended up giving up Günzburg. and spare it the battle of an invasion when Phelan Kell - well Phelan Ward - came to his office later in his ritual wolf mask.
that's also the time when phelan first learned she was dead
@@Atlas3060 -- Correct. Tyra and Phelan Kell were passionately in love. So much so that Phelan had petitioned his father Morgan Kell to have Tyra join the Kell Hounds mercenary unit, strongly hinting that Phelan intended to soon propose marriage to Tyra. But after Tor Miraborg nearly incurred the wrath of the Kell Hounds by (indirectly) having Phelan beaten up, and (directly) arrested, Tyra felt too much (personal) shame to join the Kell Hounds; but Tyra felt even greater shame of her father, thus why Tyra took a posting with the First Rasalhague Drakons, a prestigious posting which Tor could not refuse to allow.
So ultimately, Tor's arrogant pride in trying to keep his daughter safe and at home (planet Gunzburg), resulted in driving Tyra away from Gunzburg and more importantly, himself. Thus as said, all the more tragic in that Tor and Tyra last words to each other were of Tyra hoping she would never have to see &/or speak to Tor ever again.
@@pendrake40 The peak of lifestory's grief. How people tell each other about things they continue to regret, unable to deal with the resentment they feel because of remorse.
Actual space combat in Battletech?
This is a rarity.
this was in fact the first space battle described in any of the books.
the next was, when operation snake began and the battlegroup of the inner sphere went for huntress, and stumbled upon a ghost bear detachement...
that was pretty intense and i nearly jumped out of my chair when i read that back in the day.
30 books of battletech, and only the second ever space battle
Battlespace boxsets mini's and rules were a thing..... Just no one played them.
Mechwarrior 2: Ghost Bear's Legacy had a mission where you had to fight from the deck of Clan star Cruiser to disable a ship involved in stealing the genetic material of the founders of your clan and then board it (in mechs of course). That was the first video game experience with Battletech space battles that I remember.
@@danielhaire6677 Mw2 merc's also had one. But it also made my head hurt thinking of how heatsinks are supposed to work in a vacuum.
@@nikushim6665 Yeah. Heat sinks seemed to be optimized for on planet warfare, but I would think that the extreme cold of space if the sinks were functional would help mitigate heat build up and heat diffusion via thermodynamics.
Someone's about to get Focht.
I always hated that the Jihad basically took Warships out of use completely. I think the universe is so much cooler when there are still naval fleets getting into huge space battles
The Setting has always done its best to try and keep Warships from being a thing. Tintavel and the ARES Conventions, the Succession Wars, The Jihad, Clan Snow Raven and... not doing anything.
That's why Pocket Warships are a thing now, I wager. For the Naval stuff, without being so absurd.
Any interstellar sci-fi makes ground combat meaningless. Bt is like the only setting that at least has a reason for it
@@Hascuce Dune? Seriously?
There were lots of problems with the Jihad. That was only one of them.
@@56bturn It absolutely didn't, FASA tried its best to make it a thing but Battlespace and its associated mini's just didn't sell all that well. GW had similar issues with Battlefleet gothic.
That is why you dont have your bridge exposed, but in a CIC deep inside the ship
For as dumb as they were, that's something I always liked about the Covenant ships in Halo. The bridge was deep in the vessel most of the time. and the times they weren't like the corvette, you couldn't tell just by looking as on the outside, it just looks like more hull.
@@Servellion there is also a ton of non combat related reasons why a design like this is a shit idea
Solar flare: your command crew gets chernobyl-ed
Accidental collision: your command crew get squished
Micro meteroids smashing through the windows: your command crew gets sucked into space
That is a McKenna Class Battleship.
A pretty old design by Battletech standards.
In the later books, where it is about the invasion of huntress, the bridge is said to be deep inside the ships.
@@Xingmey Dire Wolf is a Sovetskii Soyuz Heavy Cruiser.
The bridge IS deep inside the ship. Some people who were in the bridge (including Wolf Khan Ulric Kerensky) survived the hit. The bridge didn't get decompressed and exposed to vacuum by the hit. It's just that the Drakon's mass and momentum caused the hull to buckle and a bunch of internal spalling crushed the CIC "ball" deep within the ship.
Just like in Lethal Heritage. Tyra Miraborg will not be forgotten. Phelan never knew.
He would learn when he convinced her Father to surrender his system without a Fight
Tyra of the Rasalhague led,
Forth her fiery flying Drakøns,
Gallant in bronze. A warrior woman whose hands
Were unskilled in the ways of hearth and home,
In skills of war she was hard and trained
To leave behind the airy winds and fight
Where the void is eternal and life fleeting.
Tyra and her warriors fought
Like crazed demons above Radstadt.
When her fighter was crippled by ours,
And her life leaked away into the endless night,
She chose to die
And sent her fighter like a spear
Through the Dire Wolf, claiming as isorla
Our mighty ilKhan's life. Sing of our loss, warriors!
Sing, but of Tyra also,
For though an enemy, her courage none can deny.
ITT: The Entire Clan Invasion gets headcapped.
I really wish I didn't lose all of my suspension of disbelief when it comes to Battletech. It was fun while it lasted...
Tyra Miraborg FTW! A woman so brave that even the Clans gave her lines in the Remembrance and named a DropShip Class after her.
cant wait for the clan jade falcon wolf dragoon dlc
Huh, jumpships jumping that close to a planet. That's a no no
Surprised to see the fighters handling so well. In the tabletop game jets were far less effective than mechs.
In space mechs become almost useless. Aerospace fighters definitely dominate while in space.
The game is over balance in favor of Mechs (they are the stars of the show) but this does not mean that they are useless, and game mechanics, vs a more real time mechanics tends to showcase the strengths and weaknesses of each unit.
Mechs are big, heavy and powerful, they are siege rams, siege breakers and true destroyers, but they are still slow compared to aircraft, who while weaker, are faster and can carry very specialized weapons and equipment against mechs.
Mech units would need to keep at least one dedicated anti-aircraft mech to be useful otherwise they will soon be destroyed by units they may not even be able to target.
But if a mech scores a hit on a fighter, that fighter is almost certainly gone and that capability is lost.
Each unit has its strengths and weaknesses after all.
@@Keemperor40K have you read the Strategic Operations rulebook?
Mechs in space get their movement reduced to almost nothing, have to add a +4 modifier to all their attacks (they’re considered long range no matter what) and can only attack targets in the same hex as them (whereas aerospace fighters have all sorts of multi hex ranges in space.)
Also, if a mech moves on the hull of a ship, it needs to make a PSR roll or fall of the ship into the void of space. The unit its on changes direction? Another PSR roll for falling off the hull.
What happens when the mech falls of the hull I hear you ask? Great question. If it has no jump jets it’s immediately removed from the match. And even if it has jump jets, their thrust rating is only equivalent to their jump MP divided by 3. Which is absolutely pathetic compared to the movement of the fighters.
Oh, and any thrust spent by a mech is another automatic PSR roll with a +2 modifier that, if it fails, will send the mech spinning out of control.
Let’s face it, the rules are explicitly designed to make mechs virtually worthless in space, and you stating random lore and fluff doesn’t change that.
@@BabyJaguar28 the original poster was clearly talking about the ground combat game, not the space combat game.
In Space yes mechs are basically mobile point defense and nothing more, outside of that they are useless as they are not designed or meant to work in that environment.
In Space its space or aero-space fighters and ships, mechs are just token for the sake o using them and because as I said they do work as point defense.
The ground game is where mechs are over emphasized and the tables are sort of turned so that Mechs can deal with aircraft (realistically they shouldn't but that's a different topic).
Heck even in the ground game there are ways to deal with mechs without having to use Mechs and that is with artillery, which showcases how utterly ridiculous Mechs ultimately are (but Mechs are cool so we go with it)
@@Keemperor40K the original comment said he was “surprised to see fighters handling so well” as in during the video, in *space*
He then followed up with saying mechs were generally better than fighters on the tabletop, at which point he was indeed talking about the ground combat rules (presumably since few people know the space rules)
I then informed him that the space rules, (the rules that apply to his initial statement of the fighters “handling well”) make mechs useless, which is why the fighters in the video were performing so well.
Then YOU came in trying to contradict my statement of mechs being useless by quoting ground combat lore, which did not apply to the statement I made whatsoever.
It seems you either did not read comments thoroughly enough or didn’t comprehend the situation.
A bit slow moving for a space battle but good tonsee
Which book does this happen in?
I believe it's "Lethal Heritage", part of the the Blood of Kerensky trilogy, by Michael Stackpole.
And that, kids, is why windows on an insterstellar vessel of war is dumb as hell. And relying on ground units to act as point-defense and anti-fighter platforms???
The fucking irony. I mean really Clans?
It's the future. And yet the bridge is still in the vulnerable front that will take the most oncoming damage and has a glass window..... Someone make this make sense?
2:00 It's kind of odd that they'd even know the gender of the pilot
The Free Rasalhague Republic made a big deal out of her heroic sacrifice, with a medal and academy named after her.
The Clans were so awed by her bravery and sacrifice which killed their ilKhan, she has a passage in the Clans' Rememberance (the closest thing they have to a holy book), and the Clans also named a new dropship the Miraborg class after her
So yes, they definitely knew who she is
@@SoranPryde To add to what Soran said, Clan warriors all want a glorious end in battle. To die of old age is a curse, to waste away. They want to die young, screaming defiance in the faces of their enemies in service to their clan, and Tyra Miraborg just set a new standard by which Clanners could measure themselves. Even though she was an enemy, the Clans looked at what she accomplished in her final moments, sat back, and went "Yeah. Like that. When I go, I want it to be like *that*."
@@SoranPryde such a wild badge of honor that is
"yeah this random pilot killed our ilkhan in such an amazing and selfless way we put her in our bible"
such a cool moment
@@SoranPryde said dropship is also a fighter carrier, because as cool as it was, they weren't interested in seeing it happen twice.
A half shave? Really? That haircut will be even more cringe in 3050 than it is today.
Ya I noticed, that to really stupid, and un believable some one of such high rank, and esteem would ever dress like that, especially the clans who are obsessed with honor, and image.
@@alexanderewing6312 I still have not played. I am waiting for the handful of critics I trust. The gameplay looks good but the story and character writing seem…… off. Yes Clanners step up young but this looks like all high school students. It’s like an anime where everyone is always 15 for some reason. IRL most combat aviators are in their late 20’s before they are even considered combat ready much less top of the class. True, piloting a mech is not aviating. After twenty years in aviation I can tell you it does not favor the young.
@@mikewaterfield3599 One of the many great features of clan society, let their leadership caste select for the brutal and bloodthirsty and let average life expectancy for said caste be in the 40's.
I'd love to see the elder Kerensky's reaction to what became of his dream.
well in the books it is written that some of the mechwarriors tend to shave parts of their head in order for the neurosensors in their neuro helmets (that are needed to actually steer a battlemech) can better focus on their neuro signals.
so it kind of makes sense.
@@joeblogs8049 Ive known the lore since the early ‘90s at least the senior ones are scarred up. Thing is the clanners were using better Nuero helms and cooling vests. A shaved head makes sense. This however is the cliche activist half shave.
Sadly the gameplay is way too arcade like and easy , the cockpits are overloaded with information you cant deactivate while ignoring the chance of making the cockpits themselves interacvtive like in Elite. No capture of destroyed Mechs from the battlefied, no research...etc. Huge flaws I am critical of ever being fixed. Right now its a 7/10 game at best but could get better ifthey work in it.
Wonder how the mechs don't overheat in vacumm. They have heat sinks but without atmosphere where the hell do they radiate off heat.
This is making me want to play the game _less_ 😅🫣