I’ve kept up with GTA as I’ve had 90+ days on it. I have no problem or issue dealing with R* BS as I’m one of those dudes who does whatever he can to have fun. That includes breaking the game and using things like SW. However, with this update I have no interest in coming back. I haven’t played much since drug wars and I do love the way they’ve handled QOL changes. This is not QOL though and it’s sad. The only reason they are finally balancing stuff is because the staff isn’t there to support the game with big updates. They’re only doing this because these are technically features and pads the updates to make them look more appealing. That being said, the changes are great and want them to do more with it. Too bad these changes have come with a bad and worse scenario. It’s great for the company and consumers but it’s so bad with how they do the changes. They give QOL features just to revert or restrict the gameplay loop and it’s so dumb. It makes the game less appealing for players as it’s either always been around or just adapted to it. It also doesn’t make people come back and that really hurts playing with friends, it’s insignificant which makes it not worth playing. And the stuff that actually changes the game doesn’t do enough to make up for anything else in that update. Sorry for ranting, Ik it doesn’t affect others or the company but I miss the good old days of playing with friends and doing glitches for cars and unobtainables. I’m proud that so many are keeping up with it though, the lord on how the glitches come to be is amazing and I suggest doing them if you find this shit as BS as it looks. Also, hot take but if I had to choose, I would rather have an orbital cannon not be patched and still have the nearly 200 cars they took.
Yup definitely was like this is a bad idea but we'll do it anyway and make it so no one can criticize us for it ignore the backlash and it doesn't exist
You could tell some bad corporate shit was going down when a lot of the heavy hitters left Rockstar. Pretty obvious they didn't like the direction the company was taking.
@vertwrld1438 Yeah, they've been building a "mega game" for at least the past 5 years since rdr2 released when 2005 rockstar would've given us 5 titles in that time, and that's an excuse to be milking out money from people with scummy practices for the past decade. And yeah, "smallest little problems". Like paywalling half the fucking content. Keep these braindead takes to yourself please.
In a game most famously named for the act of stealing cars, they have now made it so that the most desirable cars in the game can only be acquired via a legal purchase. That is so unbelievably stupid, it's actually brilliant.
@@Unknown_Geniusoesn't mean that GTA didn't become Grand Theft Rockstar. Rockstar likes thefting us now. Instead of us thefting cars we cannot and we have to pay them.
This is technically "Grand Theft Wallet" now. They've made a game series about stealing cars, doing crime and ripping off other criminal gangs, to the point the devs themselves are coming up with schemes to squeeze more cash out of you, and being shameless about it.
@@abfkwbdkdmggfilw-uv5bn I haven't played GTA Online but from my understanding you'll still have your cars as long as you never sold them, plus later into this video Muda shows one of his garages of cars and how at least one of those cars he owns is no longer obtainable outside of the premium membership (I think it's called GTA+) and so with all that being said you'll probably still have any cars they "removed" from this game as long as you never sold them off.
Thanks for covering this. It’s nice to see it getting more attention because it’s one of the most scummy things Rockstar has ever done and absolutely needs more eyes on it.
It's just moronic, they have no right to do something like this. Each year they show they can make things even worse in new increasingly idiotic and scummy way. It also makes new played experience even worse as decent base GTA5 cars that could be had relatively cheapily are now gone. More of the reason to just play on FiveM servers instead...
@ironmenschmusicofficial well to be honest their fanbase for gta online is 90% children who are younger than the game they are obsessed with and whales who spend every penny they earn on it.
Bethesda is way further down that list than you think. They support their modding community with free in-house modding tools, an extremely modifiable engine, and frequent job offers to the most talented and prolific modders. Bethesda also brought modding to consoles for free, which was an industry first. They also heavily discount the remasters and rereleases that they put out (Skyrim SE was free for existing owners and Skyrim AE was only $20 despite having far more than that value in terms of Creation Club content). I've found that 90% of the time people who think that Bethesda are anti-consumer are just idiots who can't tell the difference between their actions and the actions of ZeniMax and Bethesda Softworks. Or even better, they can't tell the difference between Bethesda Austin (a new studio setup just to develop Fallout 76) and Bethesda Maryland (the studio that makes the main TES games and Fallouts).
@@justposiI don’t. Just don’t. Spend that money on real hobbies, build your credit, etc. Open a Roth IRA and start hiking. Or play games that don’t do micro transactions and passes etc.
@@finkamain1621 didn't say it were good, but you'd be surprised how many might stick around. Looking at FIFA and COD tells us that people are willing to repay for the same content, just not as obvious as this.
It’s crazy how this is the one game where the community collectively agreed that hacking is ok and even encouraged to protest the ridiculous micro transactions
@@PrinceFloof Im using Kiddions modmenu for years now, never been banned and it's free. Been playing this game since it came out and seen it getting more moneygrab over the years. such a shame i wish it still was a good franchise.
I worked at GameStop as a store manager for 9 years. The amount of currency purchased is absolutely insane. Kids buying $100 worth 3-4 times a week using parents card because they give them the pin. It's wild and will never be under control again.
Yup, when LoL introduced skins and shit I knew this whole industry was going to shit. People buying useless skins with real money because they wanna look cool. No wonder there's inflation, people can't save or invest if their life depended on it. Slave mentality
@DeezMemesTooHardForYOU Ive personally known 2 people whove worked for gamestop. Both said its not the best job but also not horrible. Any time i talk to a gamestop worker they say their day is fine and have no real complaints about the workplace, its always coworkers that cause trouble.
I have a bad feeling this is only the beginning. They’re going to go after other stuff too like removing many old missions and clothes, then locking them behind GTA+ or some other feature similar to car dealership.
They said they were only removing lesser used, old vehicles. But they even removed the stirling gt. A car they very recently added an hsw upgrade for. Making it one of the newest vehicles, one of the top 5 fastest top speed vehicles in the entire game and the second fastest car in its class for racing. I highly doubt its "lesser used" because of this hsw upgrade. Coincidentally they immediately put it in the vinewood car club, a brand new location that shows off a rotating series of cars, which you can test drive or buy for a discounted price. But you can only actually buy the cars if you have a gta+ subscription. This is a very obvious attempt by rockstar to create artificial scarcity. They remove a large amount of cars, many of which are actually lesser purchased. Then they occasionally add them back in for special events, etc, allowing them to use re-release old content, as if its new and make it rare and limited. Then when they make one of these cars available, players are more likely to either play a lot and grind to buy it, or spend real money because of fomo. Or the car you want is ony available in the car club for a limited time, so you either have to buy gta+ or miss out and hope it returns eventually some other way. This is honestly a disgusting move by rockstar, a blatant attempt to squeeze even more money out of a 10 year old game that has already been one of the most profitable games of all time.
Even if it was just "lesser used vehicles" they have no right to do this at all. It removes choice especially for newer players. Lots of lower price decent cars got removed for no damn reason.
The main problem is that people just keep playing no matter what Rockstar does. I don't see any reason for them to disappoint players like they always do, but I also realise that there aren't that many repercussions for them either.
They realized they have a monopoly over this entire genre. A genre that was one of the most popular during the original Xbox days. They can do literally anything they want and people will still play because every other developer is too broke or afraid to make a game like this.
Nah, after I realized all of that bs, I simply stopped and got into other games. Best decision I have made after wasting 700 hours trying to grind for idk, money? Eh it does not matter anymore.
Rockstar: we've removed lesser used cars to streamline the process Also Rockstar: allows cars removed to be sold in an exclusive club that makes old "favourites" available for sale.
Allow me to quote an animator "Removing split screen from Halo is like removing cars from Grand Theft Auto" Apparently both 343i and Rockstar heard that and thought "hey, why don't we do both?"
It's clear what their goal is when you look at the motorcycles - they removed every one that was less that $1,000,000. It wasn't the "lesser used" ones, it was the options that were too cheap for Rockstar.
Maybe I'm alone on this but the biggest reason I ever played any GTA release was to have a huge variety of vehicles with which I could commit unlimited felonies in a fictional and consequence-free environment. Everything else was to keep the experience moving along.
Yea honestly I'm sick of games having weird and obsolete super cars, I'd rather see a nissan d21 than some special package with a special production run of a Lamborghini
@@rageriustheoverlord7086 Lamborghini is obscure and obsolete but the Nissan only die hard car people really care about is well known? Did you do a whippet before typing that?
People love to give EA crap over Fifa and Battlefront 2, but this is more egregious than anything they've ever done. Rockstar is by far the most predatory company out there. They straight up abandoned Red Dead 2: Online simply because they couldn't figure out a way to nickle and dime players into oblivion like this
Yup it’s fucking sad af I love red dead absolutely loved both games and I completely dropped gta online like 5 or so years ago I think I played it one time on the Xbox one and was just tired of the nickel and dime practices they had in there grind this one mission out for 12 hours or just buy a $50 shark card for the same value if not more
Not to mention that they seem to use practices that most free to play games use to encourage players into spending more money. It's laughable that RDR2 online was abandoned because people didn't want to spend money on their dumb ideas and thus they deemed it unprofitable.
No they abandoned RD 2 Online because the single player trainers worked in multiplayer thanks to the way they coded the online segment of the game, effectively having no anti cheat at all turning the game in to a shit hole.
i also got a email i received that warned me of revoking my access to social club for a week when i only played rdr2 online once XD i quit playing their titles after that, however i went back into gta online just to see what it was like, nothing was changed, sadly i spent 100 to unlock the avenger but i have the game uninstalled now since years
Its very difficult to feel any level of excitement for GTA6 when you think about the kind of nonsense they've pulled over and over again in GTA Online to try and bleed players' wallets dry while making the actual gameplay experience worse. Why would we believe it's going to get anything but worse?
that would be insane but its most likely that they only removed the vehicles from the online sites, so it means they are still in the files and single player is probably ok
Just tested a few playlists today. The Mercenaries update has also "blacklisted" certain props in the Editor. Meaning that a lot of the races people play for content related stuff are now unplayable. *Claps slowly toward Rockstar.*
I just stated that they have removed props, meaning it is bad for content creators. I literally don't use freemode, I just play races that others have used. There a millions of created races that are broken now.
It's because they're not doing single player dlc, only online. These cars, flyable motorcycles, jets, and even new areas are all exclusive to gta online. We could have had a zombie single player dlc if people wouldn't have made this so valuable for rockstar. Don't just blame rockstar, blame the community
@@Unknown_Genius i thought that the dlc that had the werewolf and some other paranormal things had some pretty solid evidence in the code of single player zombie stuff? That's what i heard at least. Maybe it was going to be gta online, but i just can't get over how good of an idea it is to make a zombie apocalypse dlc for gta. Undead nightmare is one of the best dlcs I've ever played, and in a city filled with pedestrians and ways to mess around? It just seems perfect to me.
Important Edit: TIL you can't even steal some of the higher end NPC cars(like the Comet) and put a tracker on it via LS Customs to claim it as your own. You will get a prompt that "the vehicle is too hot to modify." What the fuck. As a GTAO racing tryhard, its very infuriating that they removed S tier cars that are only obtainable through the online websites. Some of the cars they removed which they considered "unused" are actually the most iconic and used cars by the car community. I doubt that the firetruck (wasn't removed) is used more than the Entity XF.
@@lukav3509 stand is good for this, plus it just outright has options to disable dripfeeding and put everything into the store regardless of release date. I had the Hotring Everon in my garage like 2 weeks before it actually dropped lol
Dude. They have the Post OP van, the crappiest MC sell mission vehicle, yah, that, remember, called the Boxville, exists on Warstock?? That still exists on the ingame webs, being so "lesser-used". Bs Rockstar.
Im pretty sure R* also claimed it was an 'improvement' back when they limited how much you could get from a mission, as well as penalising you if you take less than 15 minutes to complete a mission. Even though most missions back then were 50% a drive to the other side of the map. Removing the Coil (etc) might have been enough in their eyes, since now they can claim they are not making money off of the models.
Muta explaining the way of buying and how the game works for people who’ve never played the game is awesome. He breaks things down for all types of people!
I'm gonna put this into numbers for anybody curious as to how bad this really is. All values will be rounded to the nearest 5 for legibility and to account for human error be it mine or the GTA wiki, which I've used for my calculations as they already had everything sorted neatly into categories, and thusly, shouldn't be treated as concrete fact but rather approximations. There were about 455 cars in GTA Online that you could purchase, by my calculations, barring cars that have their own garage slots (Khanjali, Thruster, MOC) direct upgrades (ie. Benny's Cars or LWB cars) or sidegrades (Arena War Cars) to another vehicle. This update, meanwhile removed about 195 of those cars, leaving us with about 260 cars, give or take. This is about 40% of the cars that were deleted. Most of which were general usage cars, your sports cars, off-roaders, SUVs, what have you. So, let's take this number into consideration, and let's look at a different set of numbers. The garage spaces available to a player. You can own 10 properties, plus one which can have 50 slots, with the other ones having 10, leaving us with 150 spaces for cars from just the main properties. Now let's add the office garage, which is another 60 spots. Bringing us to a nice, clean, 210. From there, we also got, and I may have a number wrong here or there so bear with me. Agency: 21 cars (231) Clubhouse: 10 bikes, which we won't count as being reserved like the Khanjali and such, since you can put any bike in there (241) Nightclub: 1 on the top floor, with 3 garages of ten each, making 31 (272) As you can see, we've already passed the amount of purchasable cars. Let's keep going though, since we can. Arcade: 10 more cars (282) Facility: 10 more cars, discounting exclusive parking (292) MOC: 1 (293) Workshop: 30, discounting execlusive parking for the Cereberus, Scarab and Sasquatch. (313) Auto Shop: 10 (323) For the sake of it, I will include the 2 spots for the Opp Mk 2 and the Submersible Cars in the Terrorbyte and Kosatka respectively, since those cars can go in other garage spots and therefore, the spots here save garage space in main garages. (325) So out of 325 spots for cars, you can only fill 260 of them with any car from the website now. Make do with this information as you please. Edited due to a counting error with the 50 car garage.
In their mind it's fair to add around 8 new" cars and remove 180+ "unpopular" cars like one of the best most popular bikes in the game that costs 15k but keep those 2mill+ bikes that are slower that it
Well they are thinking everything will go away once Gta6 comes out. They are banking on people having a short memory of all the terrible things they have done in Gta5 and how long we had to play the same map, same story etc…
@@jakiudarac2206 I believe right from the start, the online version of the game will be insanely expensive for anything in-game. I say look at prices for all the new things coming in Gta5, and that is what the price tags will be day 1 on….
I've always found gta v's infernus rendition to be ugly, but damn it was *iconic* ugly you know, like sphinx cat or a bedlington terrier dog - ugly but so *loveable*
@@JM-dq7xn yeah, I've recently replayed GTA 4 and it is so much better with cars and handling, but plagued with inconvenience of dropping frames every now and then.
Seeing all these developers one by one descend into a rapidly scummier and scummier mindset, even the once loved and well respected ones is honestly kind of depressing. Almost every longtime, well respected studio has made some shady, scummy or just stupid decision, and some of the giants that used to be the best are falling even harder than the rest of them. Honest, fair devs that are passionate about their projects and moderately competent are legitimately hard to find at this point and it's really sad to see this happen.
Pc gamers don't panic. Just contact your nearest modder and have him duplicate the car for you. Yes, even removed cars can be duplicated, and modders will even give it to you for free if you're nice to them.
One of my favorite things to do was to grab one of those “lesser cars” to see the customization they have from the Spoilers, Livery and Exhaust options some are diamonds in the rough.
@@andrewrules231 The appeal was and always has been the cars for me. So, so many to kit out, customize and cruise around in, many more than in single player. This is why the decision is baffling, it's the main draw of GTA Online.
@@andrewrules231 the cars, the custom-ability the fact you can just hang out with your buddies for a good several hours just simply fooling around by doing the dumbest shit WITH said cars. I find it a “ make your own fun” game
Most of the sport cars you can find in the city is locked from the last custom for being “too hot.” To modify. Unfortunately this basically shows that Rockstar Games does not want any of there fans, and new players to GTA Online to keep low priced sport cars like the Tigon.
their whole directive is to sway all players to 1 direction and thats buying sharkcards. i seen this coming before the online was released. gta sp already feels empty when the gameis done but 5 felt empty from the start. never been so bored with a gta game my entire life. as soon as i played the story i already knew: last game i will ever buy from them. rdr2 is a nice game but nothing special. want satchel of the east? 6 hour grind. you want golden core food? 6 hour grind. lol i thought we were meant to ESCAPE real life. we already have jobs where we work our asses off now it gotta be in games too?
Oh dear. I've seen these symptoms before. It's the dreaded "Game Company that used to be cool but is now a shell of what we loved and will soon be dead from their own greed". I'm afraid it's 100% fatal.
It's like getting bitten by a zombie. The only potential salvation is to amputate the affected limb. It's a damn shame the bite is always on the neck, though.
There would be something so satisfying about rockstar releasing GTA6… and it’s trash and after the hype dies down no one buys it anymore and it’s forgotten. Imagine rockstars feeble attempts at trying to save themselves from their own doing but it’s already to late, they are EA.
Keep in mind, some of these vehicles like the Infernus have been in the game since 2013. If they really want to run with that narrative that these vehicles were "lesser used" then it speaks volumes for just how oversaturated GTA Online became. Really it's just them wanting to lock these cheaper vehicles behind a pay paywall because people could get them too easily for free.
@@gotworc Well, that's what I meant. You'd still be paying in-game currency but you wouldn't be giving R* any real money. Obviously Take Two saw that as a problem and had them do something about it.
@@MaigenMaylight Which gives all the more reason to start modding. Rise up brothers fuck up the game so bad that this shit company will actually do something productive for once. Even if we literally have to force it out of them. Which even they probably still wouldn't do shit. They only did anything about that remote code bs because they could have gotten into a lawsuit lol
the irony is, GTA is a game that rewards the player for participating in violence, drug abuse, road rage, theft, arson and the rest, yet when that kid hacked their game studio they were outraged at how someone could do something so illegal and immoral haha
Exactly. They attract it. If you've ever been in any GTA lobby it's toxic. Name calling racism, just people being assholes. Even the game mechanics invite you to DESTROY other player progress. I think it might be time to get away from GTA forever.
It would be so cruel to show the state of Rockstar today to a GTA fan from back in early 2000’s-2010’s. RIP Comet my favorite car from the GTA franchise
It's funny but GTA 5 online is the best and worst thing to have ever happened to rockstar. If gta 5 wasn't doing so well, then maybe we wouldnt have had all those shit dumpster fires we havee seen today.
There’s gotta be a way to class action against micro transactions and in game purchases, the more I think about it, the more I see ways they’ll be able to get around anything the less I think it’s possible, but some geniuses exist.
No your just dumb, a class action against micro transactions? You would literally get rid of in game currencies for A LOT of games and ruin the user experience for millions of people. I don’t understand what your trying to argue here.
Honestly I feel MTXs should be banned from games as majority of the games that have em basically turn into pay to win. However there are some games out there where the MTXs are pointless and act only as a means to shortcut your way up in the event you fuck up. GTA I stopped playing when lobbies were filled with 5 year olds on oppressor MK2s and random death match lobbies lead to unfair parkour maps where a 5 year old would just camp in the APC killing everyone forcing you to become a bad sport for quitting a match with a timer set to 45 minutes. This was 6 years ago so I have a growing hate towards GTA for how the game is. Adding a pointless subscription (like there isn't enough of those damn things already) is a sure fair way kill the game. Honestly I'm going to leave a negative review on steam as I got it as a stress test for my rig and I fairly enjoy doing the single player missions. Not so much now that cockhard had to incorporate their launcher that never wants to work for me into the mix. Honestly you're better off setting sail than supporting them with anything
@@2hotflavored666 oh mate I don’t play the game, I just miss the gta 4 days when we were waiting on rockstars full potential, then online gaming and micro transactions came through and beat that potential into the dirt.
They remove 180+ cars for no particular reason and nobody asked for it, but I still encounter God Mode griefers and get modded out of my own session. It’s like R* intentionally wants to make the game terrible.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves guys, obviously this is just the beginning of the "crimeless" dlc, where we get five stars for walking grannies across the street
making billions of dollars off their game and then spitting in the face of their money mules and then on top of that, trying to extort more money from people. This is disgusting on every level!!! Time to start boycotting these shady companies and letting them know and fell that we're not gonna continue putting up with this nonsense
The removal of the cars, having personal vehicles and aircraft’s getting taken away because you customised the MOC and having your guns removed in the Cayo Perico heist because you died. This is next to the Smugglers Run as the 2nd worst update.
Wait, I haven’t played gta o in ages, and haven’t gotten through the vid: If I had a car that they just removed in my garage it is now gone from my garage?
@@Joemamahahahaha821no, you will still have it. He's talking about another glitch where you customize your MOC and your current car gets DELETED forever.
@@markusk1015it’s over after GTA6 comes out. It’s probably gonna be really popular for about a month, then people are gonna start complaining about how GTA 5 was so much better.
when they mention they removed cars for streamlining the browsing experience, they removed the Comet which is on Legendary Motorsports & Benny's... and Benny's isn't even cluttered it has very few cars and instead of removing the comet on just Legendary Motorsports they removed it on both websites. It shows they have other incentives in mind
Comet Retro Custom is probably the reason why it got removed from Benny's as well, i mean that car looks pretty damn good so i assume it will be in category of "highly sought after" meaning it will be seen in Vinewood club someday to give justification for GTA+ subscription. If Elegy wasn't a free car it would have most likely got vaulted as well just because it can be turned to Elegy Retro Custom. My prediction is that all "awesome" cars will be featured in Vinewood while all "peasant" cars will be tossed in Simeon's and Luxury Autos.
an experience improvement would probably dividing the shark card price by 15× or so. Combine that with setting every single item in the game on sale for 10% of the listed price.
I'm just surprised people are still pumping money into this over a decade later. Thinking back to when I still played GTA Online feels like a really long time ago.
Because it was. I was starting high school in 2013. They've realized they have a monopoly over these kinds of games because nobody else will dare to make one.
There are people who saw nothing wrong with Fallout 1st and outright defended it, so I think its safe to say that trying to understand it is a losing battle at this point
Another point is that if you win the cars now, you got them for free and can't sell them if you don't like it and want to trade up or out. If you want to invest that money into anything in the game you just can't. So they effectively made the cars more difficult to get and cost real life money while simultaneously tanking their in-game value and applicability. Thanks a lot.
LOL they can't stop hackers and mass server crashes and mass greifing actions and yet they decide "removing cars" is a friggin "experience improvement."
So I own a huge majority of those. The comet (original price 100k) used to be the best bang for your dollar. Feltzer was the most customizable. Now I own a museum.
Read EULA and you realize, you dont own anything. You are just leasing it from rockstar that can take it away when ever they want, since that has not been challenged in court.
I got a lot of the old cars cause I can speed glitch them, their the best cars in my opinion. My comet can hit 200 so can the infernuse rapid gt exampler f620 and the comet sr
@Kj4real I duped the Ztype. Back when duping was a thing. 1 garage full. Duping always going to be a thing. Us dupers look rich compared to the average player who don't look up exploits.
The sales are going to still come screaming in when the armored kuruma is made 5 million dollars more expensive and put as a limited time buyable "dont have to unlock" with that car club.
I love how Muta is so off the hook on this one. Absolute madman. I support this rant 100%, tired of being shafted by companies that we expect more out of. Especially most of us growing up with these games and companies. It's so nice to see every company I grew up with following the 'EA EXPERIENCE BABY!!!'. ffs
@@publicenemynr5 Again, think that can be looped back to Take Two. They have so many incentives now for pushing micro transactions. GTAO is still their cash cow, so unfortunately everything else goes on the back burner.
I hope GTA 6 still has single-player offline sandbox mode where I see a car I like and can just take it, like with every other GTA game. I have this horrible nightmare that they'll force you into GTA Online between single-player missions even if you have no interest in playing with other humans, and you'll have to pay extra for things that used to be included in the cost of the game.
They do this to your game and you *still* consider buying the next one?? No wonder rockstar went through with this decision, with people like this around.
@@voidimperial1179 I've never even touched GTA Online. Then again, I only have the XBox 360 version of GTA V anyway and they turned GTA Online off for that years ago.
@@ChickenKinglolz I'm pretty sure it'll still have the single-player campaign although I wouldn't be surprised if it's shorter than GTA V's main campaign. Hopefully, it'll be playable offline but that's hardly a guarantee in this day and age.
i love how your mood slowly kinda rises like a crescendo until it builds to a FEVERISH BOIL. and then you flip like a switch and bring it back hahahaha
Ironically, a huge chunk of the cars I enjoyed in the game were removed from the store so my garage if I were to return would look like just a list of removed cars. Amazing, that is simply genius. Very “intelligent design.”
You'll still have the cars. They were removed for purchase, not deleted from the game outright. That said, removing 200 cars is definitely removing many that players wanted to buy eventually, so it's fucked up either way. But if they deleted the cars that people had, that woulda' exploded way waaay worse.
@@Seventh- wouldn't be surprised if they did that to make an example out of players that glitched or hacked cars in. Surprised they didn't do that yet. That was huge during the Xbox 360 days when GTA v first came out
@@gfdgf599 It’s ironic because the reasoning is to supposedly streamline browsing which sorta implies they’re less used by the community. Meanwhile my most used cars are in the list that’s no longer sold on the in-game stores.
This is just like the transition from Gran Turismo Sport to Gran Turismo 7! You could buy any car at any time without invitations and separate limited time dealerships in Gran Turismo Sport. In Gran Turismo 7 some cars have been added a sense of “exclusivity”, requiring invitations and some of them have limited time access through “special” dealerships! Not to mention some cars have received an insane credits price hike to add a sense of “realism” which ruined the appeal of Gran Turismo.
@@grimfandango7135 It hasn’t changed but they have updated their credits pricing for new cars added with monthly patches and now they have unlocked parts and tuning that used to be locked down to a lottery style daily bonus system. The game is great on a sim level but progression is much more tedious and slower than Gran Turismo Sport. A few day one limited time cars have also been reduced in credits pricing.
Thanks for talking about this, Muta. I feel a bit of relief listening to you rant about this bullshit. Your rants about the state of modern gaming make me feel a little less crazy for getting so angry about the way things have been going for us gamers. I really appreciate you, man.
I already couldn't get over not being able to keep the autos I grandly thefted in a Grand Theft Auto game. Like, wtf. Now, people can't even get the fancy cars with the excessively grinding non-fun things that "reward" barely any money. Though I honestly can't tell what's worse, the absurd amount of grind that used to be required to get anything, or removing the things people would want to excessively grind for in order to force people to spend real-world money instead. Glad I noped out of that game after only a few hours.
should probably mention that some of the updates they did was to finally give us some of the Arena props in the Creator mode that was locked behind the arena specific creator, but in the process bugged out some of the already available props to be used. I have about 8 pages of races saved from the Social Club site, and almost half of them are now unplayable because some props was replaced because they were "ineligible to be used and was replaced, resulting in a chance that the race is unfinishable" resulting in props being replaced by a random fence prop. Not to mention a new bug where avengers and MOCs are being replaced, resulting in the DELETION OF CARS STORED THERE. To avoid the deletion, you can't even bring out the cars or else they will despawn and disappear. The way to see if you have been affected is to see if the MOC cab or the Avenger was returned to default modifications. If it is, don't enter the avenger/MOC and just don't mess with it until the glitch has been patched. I will assume that all of the cars being removed from the site is a result in the braindead idea that they can either rerelease them at a higher price because of a previous bug where they tried to change the prices of some vehicles and that ended in failure, so removing them would be a better idea so they can add them back at a new price. OR the other idea was to give them back to us through methods like showcase cars at Vinewood Car Club, LS Car Meet, Simeon's Dealership, etc.
just checked the comments and seen the bug with the MOC has been patched. I doubt that since they rarely ever release patches unless its for the event change. but I'll do some searching to see if that is correct
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No.
No
No
No
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The fact that they disabled the feedback feature just before this update went live means they knew we were going to be upset by this.
Rockstar is quite the company
Fuck Rockstar games. ong
Nooooooo really??? I never thought the millions of people who play this game would care
I’ve kept up with GTA as I’ve had 90+ days on it. I have no problem or issue dealing with R* BS as I’m one of those dudes who does whatever he can to have fun. That includes breaking the game and using things like SW.
However, with this update I have no interest in coming back. I haven’t played much since drug wars and I do love the way they’ve handled QOL changes. This is not QOL though and it’s sad. The only reason they are finally balancing stuff is because the staff isn’t there to support the game with big updates. They’re only doing this because these are technically features and pads the updates to make them look more appealing.
That being said, the changes are great and want them to do more with it. Too bad these changes have come with a bad and worse scenario. It’s great for the company and consumers but it’s so bad with how they do the changes. They give QOL features just to revert or restrict the gameplay loop and it’s so dumb. It makes the game less appealing for players as it’s either always been around or just adapted to it. It also doesn’t make people come back and that really hurts playing with friends, it’s insignificant which makes it not worth playing. And the stuff that actually changes the game doesn’t do enough to make up for anything else in that update.
Sorry for ranting, Ik it doesn’t affect others or the company but I miss the good old days of playing with friends and doing glitches for cars and unobtainables. I’m proud that so many are keeping up with it though, the lord on how the glitches come to be is amazing and I suggest doing them if you find this shit as BS as it looks.
Also, hot take but if I had to choose, I would rather have an orbital cannon not be patched and still have the nearly 200 cars they took.
Yup definitely was like this is a bad idea but we'll do it anyway and make it so no one can criticize us for it ignore the backlash and it doesn't exist
It's a great day whenever Muta talks about his filthy GTA Online addiction and the sorry state of the game
Are you still in Australia with DarkViper?
If not I enjoyed you two showing up to twitchcon
Nice to see the Mutaverse and GTAverse collide
I was worried for a moment that he wouldn't highlight this one, thanks god he did
@TGG_ In firefox your name has no checkmark in the comments section
A GTA game without cars is like a pool without water
you can skate it duuuude
Or Red Dead
the pool will eventually fill up for free with rain water, your garages will always be empty unless you pay the man !!
that turns into a skaters playground.
Only some cars are being removed, 200, and a shit ton of them are OG series traditional cars like the infernus
Anyone remember 10 years ago when Rockstar actually developed GTA games instead of just exploiting and milking their customers?
You could tell some bad corporate shit was going down when a lot of the heavy hitters left Rockstar. Pretty obvious they didn't like the direction the company was taking.
@vertwrld1438Quit being a corporate shill, you dimwit.
@vertwrld1438 Yeah, they've been building a "mega game" for at least the past 5 years since rdr2 released when 2005 rockstar would've given us 5 titles in that time, and that's an excuse to be milking out money from people with scummy practices for the past decade.
And yeah, "smallest little problems". Like paywalling half the fucking content. Keep these braindead takes to yourself please.
Find the heads behind these decisions and beat some cents into them.
Those days are long gone son....and now it's just....a desolate wasteland of battlepasses and micro transactsions.
In a game most famously named for the act of stealing cars, they have now made it so that the most desirable cars in the game can only be acquired via a legal purchase. That is so unbelievably stupid, it's actually brilliant.
Evil Grand Theft Auto be like:
@@Unknown_Geniusoesn't mean that GTA didn't become Grand Theft Rockstar. Rockstar likes thefting us now. Instead of us thefting cars we cannot and we have to pay them.
Grand Capitalism Auto
they stole cars from the community, its so meta
This is technically "Grand Theft Wallet" now. They've made a game series about stealing cars, doing crime and ripping off other criminal gangs, to the point the devs themselves are coming up with schemes to squeeze more cash out of you, and being shameless about it.
As someone who collected over 300 cars by simply refusing to sell them. I feel like an absolute genius rn
ebay?
i wouldn't be surprised if people started selling gta v accounts on ebay with so called "rare" cars lol
Genius thinking
@@abfkwbdkdmggfilw-uv5bn I haven't played GTA Online but from my understanding you'll still have your cars as long as you never sold them, plus later into this video Muda shows one of his garages of cars and how at least one of those cars he owns is no longer obtainable outside of the premium membership (I think it's called GTA+) and so with all that being said you'll probably still have any cars they "removed" from this game as long as you never sold them off.
@@AKFGinstrumental sounds tempting :O
Thanks for covering this. It’s nice to see it getting more attention because it’s one of the most scummy things Rockstar has ever done and absolutely needs more eyes on it.
Yo what’s good broughy
It's just moronic, they have no right to do something like this. Each year they show they can make things even worse in new increasingly idiotic and scummy way. It also makes new played experience even worse as decent base GTA5 cars that could be had relatively cheapily are now gone.
More of the reason to just play on FiveM servers instead...
Nice Broughy
the legend himself
@@Kacpa2 well while I agree with you they actually do have the right because it’s their game
Fun fact they removed all of the main character’s vehicles (Franklin’s Buffalo, Trevor’s Bodhi, and Michael’s Tailgater)
That’s the opposite of a “fun” fact😂 that actually makes me very sad😅
To be fair you can easily get Franklins Buffalo off the street
@@Lion09887 not the same one, that's the base model. The one frank has is a superbee or an srt8
Rockstar NEVER fails to disappoint, their terrible anti-consumer choices make Bethesda look like saints
They really do. Fallout 76s Battlepasses are free while the ones Red Dead Online had charged MTX currency
@@elseggs6504 and at least Bethesda still updates fallout 76 (despite the fact that it should've never happened in the first place)
@IRONMENSCH Music Official complaining is good for the soul!
@ironmenschmusicofficial well to be honest their fanbase for gta online is 90% children who are younger than the game they are obsessed with and whales who spend every penny they earn on it.
Bethesda is way further down that list than you think. They support their modding community with free in-house modding tools, an extremely modifiable engine, and frequent job offers to the most talented and prolific modders. Bethesda also brought modding to consoles for free, which was an industry first. They also heavily discount the remasters and rereleases that they put out (Skyrim SE was free for existing owners and Skyrim AE was only $20 despite having far more than that value in terms of Creation Club content). I've found that 90% of the time people who think that Bethesda are anti-consumer are just idiots who can't tell the difference between their actions and the actions of ZeniMax and Bethesda Softworks. Or even better, they can't tell the difference between Bethesda Austin (a new studio setup just to develop Fallout 76) and Bethesda Maryland (the studio that makes the main TES games and Fallouts).
I've lost all hope that game companies will ever see any real consequences for their greed.
They wont you're right to lose hope because as much as we talk shit we still buy and play their crap
just don't buy and play them. It's not that hard
the one who complains are a minority, most people will just shill and give their lifesavings happily to corporate companies
@@webmaristocrat4052 Until people start doing just that they are going to do what is the most profitable option
@@justposiI don’t. Just don’t. Spend that money on real hobbies, build your credit, etc. Open a Roth IRA and start hiking. Or play games that don’t do micro transactions and passes etc.
I feel like them removing content from the game was a social experiment to see what they can get away with
To see if people will stay playing after removing these cars 🤔
@@coreycasciano3255possibly, but I think more so just what they can get away with in general to see where they can maximise profits
@@rad4805 Remove cars from store -> Add them to casino and GTA+ -> Profit in the most mundane way
It's happened before, the only reason I don't think it is now is because they disabled the feedback feature evidently
@@finkamain1621 didn't say it were good, but you'd be surprised how many might stick around. Looking at FIFA and COD tells us that people are willing to repay for the same content, just not as obvious as this.
It’s crazy how this is the one game where the community collectively agreed that hacking is ok and even encouraged to protest the ridiculous micro transactions
Yea we need those last gen gta 5 online hacks to riot
@@PrinceFloof Im using Kiddions modmenu for years now, never been banned and it's free. Been playing this game since it came out and seen it getting more moneygrab over the years. such a shame i wish it still was a good franchise.
I worked at GameStop as a store manager for 9 years. The amount of currency purchased is absolutely insane. Kids buying $100 worth 3-4 times a week using parents card because they give them the pin.
It's wild and will never be under control again.
Yup, when LoL introduced skins and shit I knew this whole industry was going to shit. People buying useless skins with real money because they wanna look cool. No wonder there's inflation, people can't save or invest if their life depended on it. Slave mentality
What's wild is you worked at a gamestop for 9 years
Get back to work wagie
I hear your pain. My son plays Roblox and wants an unhealthy amount of roblox
@DeezMemesTooHardForYOU Ive personally known 2 people whove worked for gamestop. Both said its not the best job but also not horrible. Any time i talk to a gamestop worker they say their day is fine and have no real complaints about the workplace, its always coworkers that cause trouble.
I have a bad feeling this is only the beginning. They’re going to go after other stuff too like removing many old missions and clothes, then locking them behind GTA+ or some other feature similar to car dealership.
Basically R* just start to follow the "you own nothing and you will be happy" movement
It's no longer GTA it's GTO
Imagine how they're going to handle GTA 6...
@@he8535 im assuming you mean GTFO
@@pinkchckn heh funny but Grand Theft Online cuz your still stealing stuff just not cars anymore
They said they were only removing lesser used, old vehicles. But they even removed the stirling gt. A car they very recently added an hsw upgrade for. Making it one of the newest vehicles, one of the top 5 fastest top speed vehicles in the entire game and the second fastest car in its class for racing. I highly doubt its "lesser used" because of this hsw upgrade. Coincidentally they immediately put it in the vinewood car club, a brand new location that shows off a rotating series of cars, which you can test drive or buy for a discounted price. But you can only actually buy the cars if you have a gta+ subscription.
This is a very obvious attempt by rockstar to create artificial scarcity. They remove a large amount of cars, many of which are actually lesser purchased. Then they occasionally add them back in for special events, etc, allowing them to use re-release old content, as if its new and make it rare and limited. Then when they make one of these cars available, players are more likely to either play a lot and grind to buy it, or spend real money because of fomo. Or the car you want is ony available in the car club for a limited time, so you either have to buy gta+ or miss out and hope it returns eventually some other way.
This is honestly a disgusting move by rockstar, a blatant attempt to squeeze even more money out of a 10 year old game that has already been one of the most profitable games of all time.
Hey, at least they can't re-release it like Bethesda did to Skyrim. Right? ... Right? ... God I fucking hope not...
Even if it was just "lesser used vehicles" they have no right to do this at all. It removes choice especially for newer players. Lots of lower price decent cars got removed for no damn reason.
Well said!! 👌🏻🔥
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The Sterling was actually one of my favorite cars....I won it from the podium early on in playing and spent so many hours driving that car.
Watching muta slowly descend into madness over Rockstar’s bullsh*t is something i live for
In my 6 years I cant remember a time I've sen him this angry
Funny you say that because we're all pretty much going through the same thing, you must be ecstatic
They removed a ton of cars I like. But I think one of the worst ones is the bodhi. It’s literally Trevor’s vehicle in the campaign!
So what’s he drive now lol
i think they removed all character cars but i could be wrong
@@auspisses you said the truth
What about the kalahari
The main problem is that people just keep playing no matter what Rockstar does. I don't see any reason for them to disappoint players like they always do, but I also realise that there aren't that many repercussions for them either.
"MOMMY! need credit card for ten year old game please. gta +!"
Maybe _you_ do. The only Rockstar game I'll touch with a ten foot pole anymore is Red Dead Redemption 2, and only ever story mode.
They realized they have a monopoly over this entire genre. A genre that was one of the most popular during the original Xbox days. They can do literally anything they want and people will still play because every other developer is too broke or afraid to make a game like this.
Its addict behaviour
Nah, after I realized all of that bs, I simply stopped and got into other games. Best decision I have made after wasting 700 hours trying to grind for idk, money? Eh it does not matter anymore.
Rockstar: we've removed lesser used cars to streamline the process
Also Rockstar: allows cars removed to be sold in an exclusive club that makes old "favourites" available for sale.
Also Also Rockstar: drip feeds me a f*ing MOUNTAIN BIKE
Also rockstar: only ps5 and Xbox shit
Ahh yes Pay to Play, or win the rigged spin wheel
Allow me to quote an animator
"Removing split screen from Halo is like removing cars from Grand Theft Auto"
Apparently both 343i and Rockstar heard that and thought "hey, why don't we do both?"
It's clear what their goal is when you look at the motorcycles - they removed every one that was less that $1,000,000. It wasn't the "lesser used" ones, it was the options that were too cheap for Rockstar.
Glad i have a small collection of 801s and 801rrs
Yeah i saw people use the faggio mod all the time they are straight up just lying
Makes a lot of sense, actually. However, why couldn't they have just increased the price of those vehicles instead of removing them?
Maybe I'm alone on this but the biggest reason I ever played any GTA release was to have a huge variety of vehicles with which I could commit unlimited felonies in a fictional and consequence-free environment. Everything else was to keep the experience moving along.
Yea honestly I'm sick of games having weird and obsolete super cars, I'd rather see a nissan d21 than some special package with a special production run of a Lamborghini
@@rageriustheoverlord7086 Lamborghini is obscure and obsolete but the Nissan only die hard car people really care about is well known? Did you do a whippet before typing that?
@@bluemutt9964Nissan bad car
@@bluemutt9964
They said weird and obsolete. Did _you_ snort the remainder of the Cool Whip?
@@rageriustheoverlord7086You car fanatics are really something else
You know it's bad when Rockstar removes 180 cars from the game and then drip feeds you a mountain bike.
The irony of me getting a rockstar games ad for the exact DLC at the end of this video
People love to give EA crap over Fifa and Battlefront 2, but this is more egregious than anything they've ever done. Rockstar is by far the most predatory company out there. They straight up abandoned Red Dead 2: Online simply because they couldn't figure out a way to nickle and dime players into oblivion like this
Yup it’s fucking sad af I love red dead absolutely loved both games and I completely dropped gta online like 5 or so years ago I think I played it one time on the Xbox one and was just tired of the nickel and dime practices they had in there grind this one mission out for 12 hours or just buy a $50 shark card for the same value if not more
Not to mention that they seem to use practices that most free to play games use to encourage players into spending more money. It's laughable that RDR2 online was abandoned because people didn't want to spend money on their dumb ideas and thus they deemed it unprofitable.
Idk EAs Star Wars themed casino aimed at kids got them in legal trouble. IMO that takes the cake as the scummiest company
No they abandoned RD 2 Online because the single player trainers worked in multiplayer thanks to the way they coded the online segment of the game, effectively having no anti cheat at all turning the game in to a shit hole.
i also got a email i received that warned me of revoking my access to social club for a week when i only played rdr2 online once XD i quit playing their titles after that, however i went back into gta online just to see what it was like, nothing was changed, sadly i spent 100 to unlock the avenger but i have the game uninstalled now since years
Its very difficult to feel any level of excitement for GTA6 when you think about the kind of nonsense they've pulled over and over again in GTA Online to try and bleed players' wallets dry while making the actual gameplay experience worse. Why would we believe it's going to get anything but worse?
Imagine replaying that 2nd mission in GTA V and now you have drive an invisible car as Franklin and Lamar.
*invisible Boatmobile
that would be insane but its most likely that they only removed the vehicles from the online sites, so it means they are still in the files and single player is probably ok
@@lukav3509Plus, you can even still spawn those removed vehicles with trainers like Menyoo and ENT
It doesn't affect single player 🙄
Going full 'Invisible Boatmobile' with it would actually be one of the few positives to come out of this just for the insanity of it.
The fact they abandoned RDO says enough about how much GTA V money changed them.
Just tested a few playlists today. The Mercenaries update has also "blacklisted" certain props in the Editor. Meaning that a lot of the races people play for content related stuff are now unplayable. *Claps slowly toward Rockstar.*
You would still play this, even if they remove 90% of the content, let's be honest.
I just stated that they have removed props, meaning it is bad for content creators. I literally don't use freemode, I just play races that others have used. There a millions of created races that are broken now.
As someone who hasn't played GTA online since the game came out, I'm shocked there were even this many cars in the game
It's because they're not doing single player dlc, only online. These cars, flyable motorcycles, jets, and even new areas are all exclusive to gta online. We could have had a zombie single player dlc if people wouldn't have made this so valuable for rockstar. Don't just blame rockstar, blame the community
@@tricursor2481 I agree a paid story mode DLC would be 1000x better than the 13 year old wet dream that is Online now.
@@Unknown_Genius i thought that the dlc that had the werewolf and some other paranormal things had some pretty solid evidence in the code of single player zombie stuff? That's what i heard at least. Maybe it was going to be gta online, but i just can't get over how good of an idea it is to make a zombie apocalypse dlc for gta. Undead nightmare is one of the best dlcs I've ever played, and in a city filled with pedestrians and ways to mess around? It just seems perfect to me.
as the occasional menace to society this was news to me too... My head hurts at that idea...
Important Edit: TIL you can't even steal some of the higher end NPC cars(like the Comet) and put a tracker on it via LS Customs to claim it as your own. You will get a prompt that "the vehicle is too hot to modify." What the fuck.
As a GTAO racing tryhard, its very infuriating that they removed S tier cars that are only obtainable through the online websites. Some of the cars they removed which they considered "unused" are actually the most iconic and used cars by the car community. I doubt that the firetruck (wasn't removed) is used more than the Entity XF.
They just greedy
it would be cheaper to just get a mod menu and spawn them rather than paying for all of the subscriptions
@@lukav3509 stand is good for this, plus it just outright has options to disable dripfeeding and put everything into the store regardless of release date. I had the Hotring Everon in my garage like 2 weeks before it actually dropped lol
Dude. They have the Post OP van, the crappiest MC sell mission vehicle, yah, that, remember, called the Boxville, exists on Warstock?? That still exists on the ingame webs, being so "lesser-used". Bs Rockstar.
Whenever you see Rockstar’s fake excuses for what they’re doing, just mentally replace whatever they’re saying with Mr. Krabs going “I like money.”
The fact that I just got an ad for San Andreas mercenaries before watching this video is hilarious!
Im pretty sure R* also claimed it was an 'improvement' back when they limited how much you could get from a mission, as well as penalising you if you take less than 15 minutes to complete a mission. Even though most missions back then were 50% a drive to the other side of the map.
Removing the Coil (etc) might have been enough in their eyes, since now they can claim they are not making money off of the models.
ROCKSTAR NEEDS TO BE REIGNED IN. IF HUNDREDS OF GAMERS START SUING ROCKSTAR THEY WILL SETTLE AND CAVE, CONSIDER STATING LAWSUITS AGAINST ROCKSTAR.
They literally penalized skill and expected you to thank them for it. Wow. Absolutely fucking disgusting.
@@John-XIt's not possible I'm afraid
@@PrinceFloof ya ur right ( ._.)
That’s ok. Mutahar will drive us around in his real life car.
He's got a pretty fire mustang
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@@jonathanbourke9755 is it gt
A 4cyl mustang? Yeah naaaaa
his name is Semito
Muta explaining the way of buying and how the game works for people who’ve never played the game is awesome. He breaks things down for all types of people!
Yea I stopped playing after Vice City
@@chiquita683 And miss out on SA???
I’ve been playing gta online for over a month and I’m still level 12 with 500k to my name
@@m955-q7z Bleeeeeak
@@m955-q7z I hope fortune finds you
So they removed the A in GTA? Outstanding. Truly brilliant.
I'm gonna put this into numbers for anybody curious as to how bad this really is. All values will be rounded to the nearest 5 for legibility and to account for human error be it mine or the GTA wiki, which I've used for my calculations as they already had everything sorted neatly into categories, and thusly, shouldn't be treated as concrete fact but rather approximations.
There were about 455 cars in GTA Online that you could purchase, by my calculations, barring cars that have their own garage slots (Khanjali, Thruster, MOC) direct upgrades (ie. Benny's Cars or LWB cars) or sidegrades (Arena War Cars) to another vehicle. This update, meanwhile removed about 195 of those cars, leaving us with about 260 cars, give or take. This is about 40% of the cars that were deleted. Most of which were general usage cars, your sports cars, off-roaders, SUVs, what have you.
So, let's take this number into consideration, and let's look at a different set of numbers. The garage spaces available to a player.
You can own 10 properties, plus one which can have 50 slots, with the other ones having 10, leaving us with 150 spaces for cars from just the main properties. Now let's add the office garage, which is another 60 spots. Bringing us to a nice, clean, 210. From there, we also got, and I may have a number wrong here or there so bear with me.
Agency: 21 cars (231)
Clubhouse: 10 bikes, which we won't count as being reserved like the Khanjali and such, since you can put any bike in there (241)
Nightclub: 1 on the top floor, with 3 garages of ten each, making 31 (272)
As you can see, we've already passed the amount of purchasable cars. Let's keep going though, since we can.
Arcade: 10 more cars (282)
Facility: 10 more cars, discounting exclusive parking (292)
MOC: 1 (293)
Workshop: 30, discounting execlusive parking for the Cereberus, Scarab and Sasquatch. (313)
Auto Shop: 10 (323)
For the sake of it, I will include the 2 spots for the Opp Mk 2 and the Submersible Cars in the Terrorbyte and Kosatka respectively, since those cars can go in other garage spots and therefore, the spots here save garage space in main garages. (325)
So out of 325 spots for cars, you can only fill 260 of them with any car from the website now. Make do with this information as you please.
Edited due to a counting error with the 50 car garage.
Synopsis: it’s fucked 🤭
This should be pinned.
What a useless comment. Who still even plays this cheater infested poop? I stopped 1 years after its release
what the fuck is all this chill
Here I am think 21's 12 car garage was a lot
In their mind it's fair to add around 8 new" cars and remove 180+ "unpopular" cars like one of the best most popular bikes in the game that costs 15k but keep those 2mill+ bikes that are slower that it
Yeah if you look for vehicles under 1 mil you really see the end goal in action, 90% of the removed vehicles were cheap.
Was it the 801?
Power surge is fastest bike
@@Geoffreyblunts yeah the bait 801
It’s sad to see what this company has come to🤦🏾♂️
what this company has always been like*
Well they are thinking everything will go away once Gta6 comes out. They are banking on people having a short memory of all the terrible things they have done in Gta5 and how long we had to play the same map, same story etc…
Wait and see what they do with gta6, it will be x10 worst then this
@@jakiudarac2206
I believe right from the start, the online version of the game will be insanely expensive for anything in-game. I say look at prices for all the new things coming in Gta5, and that is what the price tags will be day 1 on….
@@BannedSports
I'll be suprised if GTA 6 story mode has no microtransactions.
I almost muted this and turned on subtitles for this video. Holy high energy
The Infernus being taken off of the market is my breaking point. I am dying on the inside at this point
Lmao
I remember back in the day, before the PC release, this car was first and last I bought with real money. I feel you.
I've always found gta v's infernus rendition to be ugly, but damn it was *iconic* ugly
you know, like sphinx cat or a bedlington terrier dog - ugly but so *loveable*
@@JM-dq7xn yeah, I've recently replayed GTA 4 and it is so much better with cars and handling, but plagued with inconvenience of dropping frames every now and then.
I bought one couple months ago 😎
Seeing all these developers one by one descend into a rapidly scummier and scummier mindset, even the once loved and well respected ones is honestly kind of depressing. Almost every longtime, well respected studio has made some shady, scummy or just stupid decision, and some of the giants that used to be the best are falling even harder than the rest of them. Honest, fair devs that are passionate about their projects and moderately competent are legitimately hard to find at this point and it's really sad to see this happen.
A few examples, Destiny 2 (Bungie), Overwatch (Blizzard), Cod warzone (Activision).
Haha, but thankfully FROMSOFT has stayed true as ever. And hopefully stays as such for ever..
Man why do game devs fall off so much like are they too stupid to realize that what they're doing is stupid?
Sadly that's modern gaming in a nutshell
@@shadyjesusrodriguez.2821we have team cherry to
Pc gamers don't panic. Just contact your nearest modder and have him duplicate the car for you. Yes, even removed cars can be duplicated, and modders will even give it to you for free if you're nice to them.
Skiddies save the day against Rockstar yet again
Non-toxic modders? You’re funny buddy
@@justryan5697 A youtube commenter having something smart to say? You're funny buddy
@@justryan5697you'd be surprised
My modder replaced all the NPCs with sleepy joe and everytime I boot up the game I get sniffed to death
Funny enough, i got a GTA ad with the san andreas bank heist right in this video.
One of my favorite things to do was to grab one of those “lesser cars” to see the customization they have from the Spoilers, Livery and Exhaust options some are diamonds in the rough.
Fuck yes, exactly! The liveries and little unique modifications, I loved fucking with those way back when.
Being a veteran gta online player, i've seen rockstar do some stupid things thru the years. But this is by far the worst decision they ever made.
what is the appeal of GTA online? Iv been playing GTA since the late 90's and I always felt the online aspect was boring
@@andrewrules231 The appeal was and always has been the cars for me. So, so many to kit out, customize and cruise around in, many more than in single player. This is why the decision is baffling, it's the main draw of GTA Online.
How to tell people you are smooth brained without saying that you are smooth brained... lol
And you are gonna take this one in the cheek too?
@@andrewrules231 the cars, the custom-ability the fact you can just hang out with your buddies for a good several hours just simply fooling around by doing the dumbest shit WITH said cars. I find it a “ make your own fun” game
Most of the sport cars you can find in the city is locked from the last custom for being “too hot.” To modify. Unfortunately this basically shows that Rockstar Games does not want any of there fans, and new players to GTA Online to keep low priced sport cars like the Tigon.
their whole directive is to sway all players to 1 direction and thats buying sharkcards. i seen this coming before the online was released. gta sp already feels empty when the gameis done but 5 felt empty from the start. never been so bored with a gta game my entire life. as soon as i played the story i already knew: last game i will ever buy from them. rdr2 is a nice game but nothing special. want satchel of the east? 6 hour grind. you want golden core food? 6 hour grind. lol i thought we were meant to ESCAPE real life. we already have jobs where we work our asses off now it gotta be in games too?
0:26 "One of the focal points.."
Camera proceeds to pass out
Oh dear. I've seen these symptoms before. It's the dreaded "Game Company that used to be cool but is now a shell of what we loved and will soon be dead from their own greed". I'm afraid it's 100% fatal.
It's like getting bitten by a zombie. The only potential salvation is to amputate the affected limb.
It's a damn shame the bite is always on the neck, though.
There would be something so satisfying about rockstar releasing GTA6… and it’s trash and after the hype dies down no one buys it anymore and it’s forgotten. Imagine rockstars feeble attempts at trying to save themselves from their own doing but it’s already to late, they are EA.
Rockstar games has been showing these systems since 2016.
Keep in mind, some of these vehicles like the Infernus have been in the game since 2013.
If they really want to run with that narrative that these vehicles were "lesser used" then it speaks volumes for just how oversaturated GTA Online became.
Really it's just them wanting to lock these cheaper vehicles behind a pay paywall because people could get them too easily for free.
You can't get them for free because you can't store them in your garage. You'd still need to buy them but yeah they're significantly cheaper
@@gotworc Well, that's what I meant. You'd still be paying in-game currency but you wouldn't be giving R* any real money. Obviously Take Two saw that as a problem and had them do something about it.
Funny thing: they remove "lesser used cars" then added a new bicycle into the game (drip feed).
R* logic.
@@MaigenMaylight Which gives all the more reason to start modding. Rise up brothers fuck up the game so bad that this shit company will actually do something productive for once. Even if we literally have to force it out of them. Which even they probably still wouldn't do shit. They only did anything about that remote code bs because they could have gotten into a lawsuit lol
I just fucking got the Imerus too what the fuck
the irony is, GTA is a game that rewards the player for participating in violence, drug abuse, road rage, theft, arson and the rest, yet when that kid hacked their game studio they were outraged at how someone could do something so illegal and immoral haha
Exactly. They attract it. If you've ever been in any GTA lobby it's toxic. Name calling racism, just people being assholes. Even the game mechanics invite you to DESTROY other player progress.
I think it might be time to get away from GTA forever.
@@OPTIMUMELITE That decision shouldve been made waaaay before this
@@OPTIMUMELITE yeah dude it’s wild. I played the forest for a week. Now I’m a cannibal on an island.
The same vibe as saying video games cause violence. This is a L take. Obviously real crime is worse than fake crime smooth brain
@@OPTIMUMELITEthe people in charge of rockstar now are not the OGs
that uncanny laugh of his really bring backs memories.
It would be so cruel to show the state of Rockstar today to a GTA fan from back in early 2000’s-2010’s. RIP Comet my favorite car from the GTA franchise
It's funny but GTA 5 online is the best and worst thing to have ever happened to rockstar. If gta 5 wasn't doing so well, then maybe we wouldnt have had all those shit dumpster fires we havee seen today.
You say that like they're all dead or something.
There’s gotta be a way to class action against micro transactions and in game purchases, the more I think about it, the more I see ways they’ll be able to get around anything the less I think it’s possible, but some geniuses exist.
No your just dumb, a class action against micro transactions? You would literally get rid of in game currencies for A LOT of games and ruin the user experience for millions of people. I don’t understand what your trying to argue here.
Honestly I feel MTXs should be banned from games as majority of the games that have em basically turn into pay to win. However there are some games out there where the MTXs are pointless and act only as a means to shortcut your way up in the event you fuck up.
GTA I stopped playing when lobbies were filled with 5 year olds on oppressor MK2s and random death match lobbies lead to unfair parkour maps where a 5 year old would just camp in the APC killing everyone forcing you to become a bad sport for quitting a match with a timer set to 45 minutes. This was 6 years ago so I have a growing hate towards GTA for how the game is. Adding a pointless subscription (like there isn't enough of those damn things already) is a sure fair way kill the game.
Honestly I'm going to leave a negative review on steam as I got it as a stress test for my rig and I fairly enjoy doing the single player missions. Not so much now that cockhard had to incorporate their launcher that never wants to work for me into the mix. Honestly you're better off setting sail than supporting them with anything
Or... You could just not play the game. And stop buying new Rockstar games as well.
@@2hotflavored666 oh mate I don’t play the game, I just miss the gta 4 days when we were waiting on rockstars full potential, then online gaming and micro transactions came through and beat that potential into the dirt.
@@gamerdrive5565 Ain't that the truth. 😔
I don't even play GTA Online but removing Infernus is a crime against humanity
i miss the character transfer when players go modding money and levels and move it to ps4 and Xbox one 😢😢
They remove 180+ cars for no particular reason and nobody asked for it, but I still encounter God Mode griefers and get modded out of my own session. It’s like R* intentionally wants to make the game terrible.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves guys, obviously this is just the beginning of the "crimeless" dlc, where we get five stars for walking grannies across the street
making billions of dollars off their game and then spitting in the face of their money mules and then on top of that, trying to extort more money from people. This is disgusting on every level!!! Time to start boycotting these shady companies and letting them know and fell that we're not gonna continue putting up with this nonsense
The Mule is still walking even after the harder Kick. And once the mule is dead, they just get a new one. Feeding it with the picture of a carrot.
The removal of the cars, having personal vehicles and aircraft’s getting taken away because you customised the MOC and having your guns removed in the Cayo Perico heist because you died. This is next to the Smugglers Run as the 2nd worst update.
Wait, I haven’t played gta o in ages, and haven’t gotten through the vid:
If I had a car that they just removed in my garage it is now gone from my garage?
@@Joemamahahahaha821 nah , its just not buyable on stores anymore , if you bought it already you still have it
@@Joemamahahahaha821no, you will still have it. He's talking about another glitch where you customize your MOC and your current car gets DELETED forever.
Even worse is the fact that it is a 10 year old game that I played on PS3...
Not only this, rockstar has implemented a daily sale limit on cars so people can't sell their vehicles to buy the new stuff
@Ace I swear back in the day I could flip 10 dipped deluxos in the span of 10 minutes
People selling cheated cars are the reason they put in the limit.
Rockstar Games Try Not To Make The Game Worse For The Players Challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Muta's elbow coming to rest that close to an uncovered bottle of water has given me anxiety
Thank you for expressing how we all feel so well. I could watch you shit on what theyre doing to GTA all day.
Just an FYI, once they come out on the daily wheel, you can infinitely spin it until you get the car. Just restart your game before the wheel stops.
By the time gta loads i have to go to bed.
@@SmokeyWire56😂😂
Doesn't it still take 15 seconds to confirm if you want to qui if you try force closing it from the Task Manager though?
just wait for the next gta honestly
@@Luximoz no
When we think rockstar cannot get any worse, they surprise us, their fall off needs to be documented it's actually sad
Bro the future of rockstar games makes me nervous
@@markusk1015 commitment makes me nervous
This what happens to companies when they get *too* big
@@Nev1812 yep and that's what happens when stupid online multiplayer games comes and ruins the whole experience
@@markusk1015it’s over after GTA6 comes out. It’s probably gonna be really popular for about a month, then people are gonna start complaining about how GTA 5 was so much better.
when they mention they removed cars for streamlining the browsing experience, they removed the Comet which is on Legendary Motorsports & Benny's... and Benny's isn't even cluttered it has very few cars and instead of removing the comet on just Legendary Motorsports they removed it on both websites. It shows they have other incentives in mind
Comet Retro Custom is probably the reason why it got removed from Benny's as well, i mean that car looks pretty damn good so i assume it will be in category of "highly sought after" meaning it will be seen in Vinewood club someday to give justification for GTA+ subscription. If Elegy wasn't a free car it would have most likely got vaulted as well just because it can be turned to Elegy Retro Custom.
My prediction is that all "awesome" cars will be featured in Vinewood while all "peasant" cars will be tossed in Simeon's and Luxury Autos.
an experience improvement would probably dividing the shark card price by 15× or so. Combine that with setting every single item in the game on sale for 10% of the listed price.
I'm just surprised people are still pumping money into this over a decade later. Thinking back to when I still played GTA Online feels like a really long time ago.
Because it was. I was starting high school in 2013. They've realized they have a monopoly over these kinds of games because nobody else will dare to make one.
its amazing how game companys find the worst possible decisions to make
The worst part is that a lot of people think it was a good choice which is mind boggling
Probably the same idiots that loved cayo perico nerf for solos
There are people who saw nothing wrong with Fallout 1st and outright defended it, so I think its safe to say that trying to understand it is a losing battle at this point
There's always people who are stockholm'd by corporations
@@DedAlexFive who hurt you dude
@@dziewiaty Not Bethesda: I havent bought that game lol
Another point is that if you win the cars now, you got them for free and can't sell them if you don't like it and want to trade up or out. If you want to invest that money into anything in the game you just can't. So they effectively made the cars more difficult to get and cost real life money while simultaneously tanking their in-game value and applicability. Thanks a lot.
Well I wasn’t planning on playing GTA Online again before but this is definitely the nail in the coffin.
Think the last time I played gta5 was when Obama was president.
well i got my alt corrupted cuz of dickhead modders which killed any motivation to play gta online, this only makes me wanna keep the game uninstalled
Last time I played GTAOnline for more than 10 minutes was back in the 360 days.
Nothing is more scarier than a open bottle of water on a pc desk. Muta don’t give me anxiety 😂
He got so close to it too 😂😢
More scary or scarier
@@Yamezzzzhe doubled up to get his point across.
@@Yamezzzz all the above
GTA is finally more realistic, I couldn't afford these cars in RL so thank God, I can't afford them online. Uncanny how true to life its becoming.
LOL they can't stop hackers and mass server crashes and mass greifing actions and yet they decide "removing cars" is a friggin "experience improvement."
GTA, From Grand Theft Auto to Grand Theft Wallet.
It will be very disappointing when GTA 6 breaks records continuing this cycle.
That's just Grand Theft.
So I own a huge majority of those. The comet (original price 100k) used to be the best bang for your dollar.
Feltzer was the most customizable.
Now I own a museum.
Read EULA and you realize, you dont own anything. You are just leasing it from rockstar that can take it away when ever they want, since that has not been challenged in court.
I got a lot of the old cars cause I can speed glitch them, their the best cars in my opinion. My comet can hit 200 so can the infernuse rapid gt exampler f620 and the comet sr
@Kj4real I duped the Ztype. Back when duping was a thing. 1 garage full.
Duping always going to be a thing.
Us dupers look rich compared to the average player who don't look up exploits.
Small indie company needs more funding to develop their next game
They already wasted like 60% of their funds on bad gta online updates that only keep those lvl 100+ nolifes playing and milk them
The sales are going to still come screaming in when the armored kuruma is made 5 million dollars more expensive and put as a limited time buyable "dont have to unlock" with that car club.
every time i think rockstar can't hit a new low they prove me wrong ☠️
Oh man as a GTA Fan I was SO FURIOUS when they got rid of those cars. I swear this is unacceptable!
I love how Muta is so off the hook on this one. Absolute madman. I support this rant 100%, tired of being shafted by companies that we expect more out of. Especially most of us growing up with these games and companies. It's so nice to see every company I grew up with following the 'EA EXPERIENCE BABY!!!'. ffs
this suggests to me they're acclimatizing players for the smaller vehicle list at the start of GTA6. they don't want the sudden change to feel bad
This doesn't feel like a Rockstar change, this feels like a Take Two change.
The dick riding is unreal 😂
This
Who cares at this point
After red dead online i wouldn't be so sure, both parties are guilty
@@publicenemynr5 Again, think that can be looped back to Take Two. They have so many incentives now for pushing micro transactions. GTAO is still their cash cow, so unfortunately everything else goes on the back burner.
I hope GTA 6 still has single-player offline sandbox mode where I see a car I like and can just take it, like with every other GTA game. I have this horrible nightmare that they'll force you into GTA Online between single-player missions even if you have no interest in playing with other humans, and you'll have to pay extra for things that used to be included in the cost of the game.
They do this to your game and you *still* consider buying the next one?? No wonder rockstar went through with this decision, with people like this around.
At this point, can we even expect a offline singleplayer in gta 6 ?
@@voidimperial1179 I've never even touched GTA Online. Then again, I only have the XBox 360 version of GTA V anyway and they turned GTA Online off for that years ago.
@@ChickenKinglolz I'm pretty sure it'll still have the single-player campaign although I wouldn't be surprised if it's shorter than GTA V's main campaign. Hopefully, it'll be playable offline but that's hardly a guarantee in this day and age.
Fuck that, I'm hoping they bring back Director Mode.
Everyday I am constantly proven wrong as to just how terrible Rockstar can be
i love how your mood slowly kinda rises like a crescendo until it builds to a FEVERISH BOIL. and then you flip like a switch and bring it back hahahaha
BREAKING: GTA 6 will not have cars, only horses 😂
press triangle to park horse*
only horses :)
Your gonna have to walk to the next mission.
@pureh2oh92 nope, but you can customize and pimp out your shoes. First you gotta buy them ofcourse, until then you wear flip flops.
Wouldn't surprise me in the next game that cars are just like NFTs, so you can only buy them with real money and trade them with players
just wait till you discover rdr2
Ironically, a huge chunk of the cars I enjoyed in the game were removed from the store so my garage if I were to return would look like just a list of removed cars.
Amazing, that is simply genius. Very “intelligent design.”
You'll still have the cars. They were removed for purchase, not deleted from the game outright. That said, removing 200 cars is definitely removing many that players wanted to buy eventually, so it's fucked up either way.
But if they deleted the cars that people had, that woulda' exploded way waaay worse.
@@Seventh- wouldn't be surprised if they did that to make an example out of players that glitched or hacked cars in. Surprised they didn't do that yet. That was huge during the Xbox 360 days when GTA v first came out
You can’t sell your horses on rdr2 online either. It sucks
How is what you said ironic?
@@gfdgf599 It’s ironic because the reasoning is to supposedly streamline browsing which sorta implies they’re less used by the community. Meanwhile my most used cars are in the list that’s no longer sold on the in-game stores.
Rockstar: "You know what the players will love? Removing content from the decade old game they're still playing some reason. They'll love that."
Crazy thing is that if people are playing and buying that subscription right now just think of what will happen with gta 6 anyway to milk that $$$.
This is just like the transition from Gran Turismo Sport to Gran Turismo 7! You could buy any car at any time without invitations and separate limited time dealerships in Gran Turismo Sport. In Gran Turismo 7 some cars have been added a sense of “exclusivity”, requiring invitations and some of them have limited time access through “special” dealerships! Not to mention some cars have received an insane credits price hike to add a sense of “realism” which ruined the appeal of Gran Turismo.
That sounds like the worst thing to ever experience in a game…. Idk if that changed but you saved me money
@@grimfandango7135 It hasn’t changed but they have updated their credits pricing for new cars added with monthly patches and now they have unlocked parts and tuning that used to be locked down to a lottery style daily bonus system. The game is great on a sim level but progression is much more tedious and slower than Gran Turismo Sport. A few day one limited time cars have also been reduced in credits pricing.
Thanks for talking about this, Muta. I feel a bit of relief listening to you rant about this bullshit. Your rants about the state of modern gaming make me feel a little less crazy for getting so angry about the way things have been going for us gamers. I really appreciate you, man.
He's not the first guy, everyone in the gaming space is rallying about this nonsense
"OMG Activision removed guns from Call Of Duty" is what I heard when Muta started the video
😂😂😂
after thousands of hours in ps3/4 gta online, this is why i payed 12 dollars for a pc mod menu 💀
I already couldn't get over not being able to keep the autos I grandly thefted in a Grand Theft Auto game. Like, wtf.
Now, people can't even get the fancy cars with the excessively grinding non-fun things that "reward" barely any money. Though I honestly can't tell what's worse, the absurd amount of grind that used to be required to get anything, or removing the things people would want to excessively grind for in order to force people to spend real-world money instead.
Glad I noped out of that game after only a few hours.
Same…I finished the story (I still prefer the San Andreas and Vice City ones) then I played like 5 hours online, got bored and never played it again 😅
not to mention most silent heists are now broken where you can sometimes kill no one and you get a body found
should probably mention that some of the updates they did was to finally give us some of the Arena props in the Creator mode that was locked behind the arena specific creator, but in the process bugged out some of the already available props to be used. I have about 8 pages of races saved from the Social Club site, and almost half of them are now unplayable because some props was replaced because they were "ineligible to be used and was replaced, resulting in a chance that the race is unfinishable" resulting in props being replaced by a random fence prop.
Not to mention a new bug where avengers and MOCs are being replaced, resulting in the DELETION OF CARS STORED THERE. To avoid the deletion, you can't even bring out the cars or else they will despawn and disappear. The way to see if you have been affected is to see if the MOC cab or the Avenger was returned to default modifications. If it is, don't enter the avenger/MOC and just don't mess with it until the glitch has been patched.
I will assume that all of the cars being removed from the site is a result in the braindead idea that they can either rerelease them at a higher price because of a previous bug where they tried to change the prices of some vehicles and that ended in failure, so removing them would be a better idea so they can add them back at a new price. OR the other idea was to give them back to us through methods like showcase cars at Vinewood Car Club, LS Car Meet, Simeon's Dealership, etc.
just checked the comments and seen the bug with the MOC has been patched. I doubt that since they rarely ever release patches unless its for the event change. but I'll do some searching to see if that is correct