Hi guys - lots of people mentioning the legendary rule, absolutely correct. The legendary tokens would get sacrificed immediately. However, you would still get their ETB/LTB triggers. If you would like to not sacrifice them. You can pick up Mirror Gallery or Mirror Box to not have the legend rule apply and go crazy with a legends matter deck too 👍
I know it's a bit late but to go infinite just use a mana dork such as: Ornithopter of Paradise, Manakin, Gold Myr or Iron Myr. Then Cast/Copy Bell ringer and repeat. You could also go almost infinite while creating an extra floating mana with Ashnod's Altar (Sac your tokens). Also, since our commander already has haste, a Patriar's Seal would be more efficient than 1000-year Elixir as it would double as a mana rock. For those who don't know, this card will not remove the Legendary Rule, so the token copy would simply explode upon impact but this also means that we automatically get any ETB's or Death triggers right away from the token copy, this is something Kikki-Jikki cannot do.
If you flicker the Balloon Man with Restoration Angel, its already an infinite combo due to you being able to tap him again, making it a two card combo (which is ideally what you want for a commander deck), same exact thing can be done with any other flicker card like Felidar Guardian and Wispweaver Angel (although this one is quite expensive) because in essence it does not matter since the wincon is to attack with infinite flying 1/1s anyway. Having Flash might be slightly better since you could play Restoration Angel at the end of the opponent's turn and fully untap to do the combo with full mana on your phase. Zealous Conscripts and Coercive Recruiters are other options that is Red that allows you to untap. If you have a "Sacrifice Creature" activation creature you could also use Thornbite Staff, although that makes it a 3 card combo by equipping Thornbite Staff on Balloon Man and repeatedly sacrifice that copied creature. Combat Celebrant and Godo (and Port Razor which work with Kikijiki) do not work here since you only get an additional combat phase, not an additional main phase. There are more but pretty much any Kikijiki combo works as long as it does not require instant speed (as in extra combat phase effects).
Wouldn't the Balloon man's ability not get rid of the legendary typing on tokens he makes? It says it's a 1/1 red balloon in addition to colors and types. It doesn't say anything about taking away the legendary part.
In says in additional meaning it still copies the legendary keyword, thus sacing it, instantly because of the legendary rule, but thats fine for death trigers and you keep the original legendary creatures so you can repeat next turn or if you can blink your commander or next turn
@@user-tl4ze2vq9i not a worst kiki jiki. I did a deck build and consistenly win on turn 2-3. He is 3 mana in 2 colors, has 4 toughness. Just wait for the cEDH builds.
![The Jolly Balloon Man - Commander Deck Tech - Tokens, Copying and ETB Effects [MTG / EDH]](/img/1.gif)
Hi guys - lots of people mentioning the legendary rule, absolutely correct. The legendary tokens would get sacrificed immediately. However, you would still get their ETB/LTB triggers.
If you would like to not sacrifice them. You can pick up Mirror Gallery or Mirror Box to not have the legend rule apply and go crazy with a legends matter deck too 👍
I know it's a bit late but to go infinite just use a mana dork such as: Ornithopter of Paradise, Manakin, Gold Myr or Iron Myr. Then Cast/Copy Bell ringer and repeat. You could also go almost infinite while creating an extra floating mana with Ashnod's Altar (Sac your tokens). Also, since our commander already has haste, a Patriar's Seal would be more efficient than 1000-year Elixir as it would double as a mana rock. For those who don't know, this card will not remove the Legendary Rule, so the token copy would simply explode upon impact but this also means that we automatically get any ETB's or Death triggers right away from the token copy, this is something Kikki-Jikki cannot do.
Abdel is going to shine in this infinite potential deck!
How would Abdel work with this for infinites?
Quick note, it's sorcery speed so godo infinites don't work. Nor does kikki jikki with the commander as Kiki states nonlegendary
Good to know, thank you. I’ll adjust the video 👌
Biblioplex assistant is going to be your most valuable creature in this deck…💪🏽
Decklist please!?! 🙏
If you flicker the Balloon Man with Restoration Angel, its already an infinite combo due to you being able to tap him again, making it a two card combo (which is ideally what you want for a commander deck), same exact thing can be done with any other flicker card like Felidar Guardian and Wispweaver Angel (although this one is quite expensive) because in essence it does not matter since the wincon is to attack with infinite flying 1/1s anyway. Having Flash might be slightly better since you could play Restoration Angel at the end of the opponent's turn and fully untap to do the combo with full mana on your phase. Zealous Conscripts and Coercive Recruiters are other options that is Red that allows you to untap.
If you have a "Sacrifice Creature" activation creature you could also use Thornbite Staff, although that makes it a 3 card combo by equipping Thornbite Staff on Balloon Man and repeatedly sacrifice that copied creature.
Combat Celebrant and Godo (and Port Razor which work with Kikijiki) do not work here since you only get an additional combat phase, not an additional main phase.
There are more but pretty much any Kikijiki combo works as long as it does not require instant speed (as in extra combat phase effects).
You still need the mana to pay for the activation, thus not infinite.
Wouldn't the Balloon man's ability not get rid of the legendary typing on tokens he makes? It says it's a 1/1 red balloon in addition to colors and types. It doesn't say anything about taking away the legendary part.
In says in additional meaning it still copies the legendary keyword, thus sacing it, instantly because of the legendary rule, but thats fine for death trigers and you keep the original legendary creatures so you can repeat next turn or if you can blink your commander or next turn
This is the best Boros commander in EDH. Stronger than even Winota
Winota is leagues better, she generates so much advantage, while Jolly Ballon Man, despite being cool, is just a worse Kiki Jiki
@@user-tl4ze2vq9i not a worst kiki jiki. I did a deck build and consistenly win on turn 2-3. He is 3 mana in 2 colors, has 4 toughness. Just wait for the cEDH builds.
@@odyseeus Got a list i could see?