43:37- 43:55. You nailed it baby! The consciousness of eternity. The archetype of origin source: All is one. All is equal. All is divine. All is immortal.
Awesome conversation. Hard/tough questions from Tami and eloquent, humane, sensitive responses from Rupert. Totally enjoyed it. More of the same, please.
The thought 'I am', although the fundamental truth, really doesn't help when we experience painful feelings. If we turn away from them or distract they will get squashed down and added to many others stored within us that then can burst out inappropriately and disproportionately to the new trigger. But if we can acknowledge the feeling, name it, sit with it compassionately and breathe through it, we will be able to let it go effectively and safely. The'I am' and the experience of happiness are revealed by letting go of what kept them hidden. ❤
Tami.. You are an amazing interviewer. I admired your honesty and challenging Rupert. I've only just discovered Rupert. What an amazing Man. Happiness has become so clear to me now🙏 Thank you ❤🙌
Ease and peace ✌️ we need this 🙏 trying to get this while my dad has dementia and my mum is beyond suffering its so painful for her to see the man she loves be so different and she is adding more levels to suffering by worrying how bad hes going to go😢
Becoming: We still cultivate, water, nourish, care for the coming flower. We enjoy it's budding, blossoming and full flowering even though we know it is temporary; will disappear after all our "effort" into the essence before the flower.
The new born baby with a clean slate worked for me! Maybe my imaginary mother was a highly evolved person, maybe it was a cicerian delivery. Developing (visualization) the IMAGINATION is everything ❤
I appreciate the brutally honest questions to Rupert about what it is to be in the now, in “his” experience. In my experience, Eckhart Tolle feels like home in the way of teachers here on this planet, although I appreciate all the Masters. Rupert seems more complex to me, whereas Eckhart uses no frills.
"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind." Jiddu Krishnamurti
It is more difficult & scarey for very heady people- intellectuals, to get back to simply being, without thoughts getting in the way constantly. Focusing just on breath or being quietly in Nature just absorbing through the senses may help quiet those w overactive minds.
I think perhaps our 'Original ADD', which Rupert so insightfully coins, stems from the induced trauma of believing in the false & condemming false tale of Original Sin!
Tami, what about applying Jill Bolt Taylor's 90 second rule with a punching bag in your preferred space to exhaust your physical fire..I loved kickboxing a soft bag after work. It helped me.Oh! And the endorphins that arise after are heaven. :)
What you are experiencing at the Moment of your death is the Is~ness of things.. A alternative word for being is open expansiveness.. The moment you conceptualise anything you've missed it..Prior to experance..
Why? Where does that action originate from? Do you think Rupert is sharing his teachings and insights on behalf of the separate self? He says that if he 'loses the plot' (his words) when he notices cellular phones activity during his talks, it wouldn't be on behalf of the separate self, but because he wants the space to be dedicated to the teachings, because of his love of truth.
I just love Rupert. I dont understand why Tami was being a bit difficult with the baby thing? He said imagine a birth being easy etc. Going to an experience before thoughts etc. She didnt even try and was kind if rude imo!
She was posing the same question that the listener might have... Here she's asking to clarify things. These interviews are not conversations between just two people. We're in it too.
Tami, Are you asking these questions as someone who knows the answers, but is trying to help listeners? After so many years of working with amazing spiritual teachers yourself, it seems that you would understand where Ruppert is pointing. Yet is seems you are caught in thinking/believing, hypothetical instead of experiencing yourself as being. Not meant to be a criticism, my mind is just wondering as I hear this.
Experience and Experiencer What is experiencing the external reality and inner reality is the mind, endowed with the reflection of consciousness, of which the center is the ego. What makes the experience possible is the reflection of consciousness or awareness in the mind that illuminates the sensory object of experience and the subjective emotional and mental experience. It is the mixture of consciousness with the mind that enables any external or internal experience. However, it is the ego that grounds the consciousness in the objects of sensory reality and also in the structures of psychological reality. That is why, when the ego subsides, we remain effortlessly abiding in our true nature, the silent space of primordial awareness, and will experience peace, freedom, and bliss-eternal, infinite, indestructible. The primordial awareness always remains as an uninvolved silent space of awareness, peaceful, whole, and blissful.
Just was thinking of your were a newborn baby and he asked what would you be feeling well the main answer would be you wouldn't know because well at least my first memory wasn't till around 5 years old and it's disjointed because I can only remember odd glimpses not a continuous just like quick snippets of say skipping in playground , or occasional classroom experiences so as a baby if I did know something I don't remember it's a real deep chat I really enjoy it very thought provoking your right what foes say there os a beginning and ending only the body being there and then not 😮
Artists are typically the most egoic creatures on the planet. How more obvious can it be that ‘this understanding Tami’ depends fully on the dualism underpinning the dreadful things that go on, and always have gone on.
To me the problem here is that Rupert is trying to give his experience to Tami through words and mental concepts. He doesn't understand that he is more aware of the " I am" in the midst of uncomfortable feelings just because he has more experience. The answer to her question should have been , in my opinion, something like "you need to keep resting in the I am and in time you will be able to stay there even in the midst of activities or difficult situations".
This is misleading though because there is no one to rest in the I am. It’s really a realisation of being, that is the important part. Being isn’t and experience or something we can choose, it is everything already as it is.
"I am" is the way to contact Being within, our being, our essence. At the same time, as you say, Being is everything and everyone. But this is not the whole story either. Because Being is the One and the many. If you say only the One exists you are wrong. If you say it is only the many that exist you are wrong too. This is called advaita, not-two ( what implicitly means not-one either)
Well, Tami's "question": "Take me more into this notion of 'I Am'" was a bit of a challenge, wasn't it. Rupert answered as cooperatively as he could - just referring to the inexpressable experiential quality of it wouldn't have helped much either, I guess.
@@chriskrause2528 Yes, I think you are right, he tried to help. My point is that usually, advaita teachers used to give a practice to perform. For example self inquiry in the case of Ramana and connecting to the feeling of I am in the case of Nisgardatta. However, in the neoadvaita movement it seems that practicing is kind of wrong. These teachers sell a quick enlightenment without work of any kind. That is why the teacher becomes the centre. He delivers enlightenment with his words and concepts. The answer to the question is very simple: practice and in time you will see. But to say that is not so sellable. I think that at the beginning Rupert takes the right approach, he gives a practice to perform: "rest in the presence of your being". And then Tami asks for an easy solution when there are difficult emotions. But I think there are not easy solutions, just more practice and more time until the presence of being shines even in the midst of activities or difficult emotions. Take care!
Bernardo Kastrup gave me the breakthrough I needed to access the wisdom of Rupert, et al. Those of us who are unable to escape the intellect can give the intellect a task so it is appeased while we explore beyond awareness beyond (not behind!) thoughts
It’s interesting that he isn’t enlightened seeing as he drops out on awareness on bad days. Awareness on itself is 24 hours a day/365 days for people who have reached enlightenment. No big deal but he probably shouldn’t be teaching a direct path to enlightenment if he himself hasn’t gotten there with his methods. He’s close but hasn’t hit the threshold. Becoming a teacher too soon is of great peril to the seeker. Not a naysayer just observing the facts.
@@tanakaren1822 there actually is if you talk to people that have reached it. Preparing the mind for enlightenment is a process but once it comes, it’s total. The Buddha after enlightenment didn’t have bad days
Yes he's right and No. Spira is right about the mechanics but this is too much of a rabbit hole. Serve other people. Practice loving everyone. All relationships, not staring in the mirror or talking about the moment before we know we are a person. Help out a food bank people. Find someone less fortunate than you and you'll discover the self being a contribution, creating meaning, creating a by product called happiness
That sounds like conditional happiness which is a constant chase of happiness that relies on things you gotta do. This means you aren’t happy unless you do them.
I’ve stopped asking the mind-or anyone else’s mind-for answers but trust the wisdom of the silence in which the mind arises.
43:37- 43:55. You nailed it baby! The consciousness of eternity. The archetype of origin source: All is one. All is equal. All is divine. All is immortal.
Awesome conversation. Hard/tough questions from Tami and eloquent, humane, sensitive responses from Rupert. Totally enjoyed it. More of the same, please.
This was a real gift ! Excellent interview with Rupert that shed light on his teachings with well thought out and interesting questions. Thank you..
The thought 'I am', although the fundamental truth, really doesn't help when we experience painful feelings. If we turn away from them or distract they will get squashed down and added to many others stored within us that then can burst out inappropriately and disproportionately to the new trigger. But if we can acknowledge the feeling, name it, sit with it compassionately and breathe through it, we will be able to let it go effectively and safely. The'I am' and the experience of happiness are revealed by letting go of what kept them hidden. ❤
Tami.. You are an amazing interviewer. I admired your honesty and challenging Rupert.
I've only just discovered Rupert. What an amazing Man.
Happiness has become so clear to me now🙏
Thank you ❤🙌
"Peace And Happiness Are The Nature Of Our Being, And We Share Our Being With Everyone And Everything"
Happiness is a state of freedom, fullness, peace, love and bliss
Ease and peace ✌️ we need this 🙏 trying to get this while my dad has dementia and my mum is beyond suffering its so painful for her to see the man she loves be so different and she is adding more levels to suffering by worrying how bad hes going to go😢
Becoming: We still cultivate, water, nourish, care for the coming flower. We enjoy it's budding, blossoming and full flowering even though we know it is temporary; will disappear after all our "effort" into the essence before the flower.
The new born baby with a clean slate worked for me! Maybe my imaginary mother was a highly evolved person, maybe it was a cicerian delivery. Developing (visualization) the IMAGINATION is everything ❤
I appreciate the brutally honest questions to Rupert about what it is to be in the now, in “his” experience. In my experience, Eckhart Tolle feels like home in the way of teachers here on this planet, although I appreciate all the Masters. Rupert seems more complex to me, whereas Eckhart uses no frills.
Tolle skims the surface and has commercial appeal.
"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind."
Jiddu Krishnamurti
Truth! Radical but true.
in the moment of hearing “ we don’t share our being” I got it - for a least a second!!!
It is more difficult & scarey for very heady people- intellectuals, to get back to simply being, without thoughts getting in the way constantly.
Focusing just on breath or being quietly in Nature just absorbing through the senses may help quiet those w overactive minds.
I think perhaps our 'Original ADD', which Rupert so insightfully coins, stems from the induced trauma of believing in the false & condemming false tale of Original Sin!
Tami, what about applying Jill Bolt Taylor's 90 second rule with a punching bag in your preferred space to exhaust your physical fire..I loved kickboxing a soft bag after work. It helped me.Oh! And the endorphins that arise after are heaven. :)
Well crafted interview! Great flow and insights. NAMASTE. Thank you
What you are experiencing at the Moment of your death is the Is~ness of things.. A alternative word for being is open expansiveness.. The moment you conceptualise anything you've missed it..Prior to experance..
That was beautiful. ♥️
Thanks!
Those who realize that they don't exist, never comment. Just saying. The very act of wanting my opinion to be known is coming from the separate self.
You just commented 😂 I just replied 😂
Why? Where does that action originate from? Do you think Rupert is sharing his teachings and insights on behalf of the separate self? He says that if he 'loses the plot' (his words) when he notices cellular phones activity during his talks, it wouldn't be on behalf of the separate self, but because he wants the space to be dedicated to the teachings, because of his love of truth.
I just love Rupert. I dont understand why Tami was being a bit difficult with the baby thing? He said imagine a birth being easy etc. Going to an experience before thoughts etc.
She didnt even try and was kind if rude imo!
you cant know that, nor can you know what her motivation may have been ...so many other explanations are possible.
She was posing the same question that the listener might have... Here she's asking to clarify things. These interviews are not conversations between just two people. We're in it too.
She might have an issue with his example. She could’ve been triggered.
Tami, Are you asking these questions as someone who knows the answers, but is trying to help listeners? After so many years of working with amazing spiritual teachers yourself, it seems that you would understand where Ruppert is pointing. Yet is seems you are caught in thinking/believing, hypothetical instead of experiencing yourself as being. Not meant to be a criticism, my mind is just wondering as I hear this.
I love to let everything subside, but it’s not allowed.
❤❤❤
Experience and Experiencer
What is experiencing the external reality and inner reality is the mind, endowed with the reflection of consciousness, of which the center is the ego.
What makes the experience possible is the reflection of consciousness or awareness in the mind that illuminates the sensory object of experience and the subjective emotional and mental experience.
It is the mixture of consciousness with the mind that enables any external or internal experience. However, it is the ego that grounds the consciousness in the objects of sensory reality and also in the structures of psychological reality.
That is why, when the ego subsides, we remain effortlessly abiding in our true nature, the silent space of primordial awareness, and will experience peace, freedom, and bliss-eternal, infinite, indestructible.
The primordial awareness always remains as an uninvolved silent space of awareness, peaceful, whole, and blissful.
Just was thinking of your were a newborn baby and he asked what would you be feeling well the main answer would be you wouldn't know because well at least my first memory wasn't till around 5 years old and it's disjointed because I can only remember odd glimpses not a continuous just like quick snippets of say skipping in playground , or occasional classroom experiences so as a baby if I did know something I don't remember it's a real deep chat I really enjoy it very thought provoking your right what foes say there os a beginning and ending only the body being there and then not 😮
Nothing happened to anyone😊...i dont know mind ...intuition..Essence remains❤
Interesting re birth and death experience. My first feeling at birth was fear yet at death was joy.
Artists are typically the most egoic creatures on the planet. How more obvious can it be that ‘this understanding Tami’ depends fully on the dualism underpinning the dreadful things that go on, and always have gone on.
Thanks
Tami loves hearing herself
To me the problem here is that Rupert is trying to give his experience to Tami through words and mental concepts. He doesn't understand that he is more aware of the " I am" in the midst of uncomfortable feelings just because he has more experience. The answer to her question should have been , in my opinion, something like "you need to keep resting in the I am and in time you will be able to stay there even in the midst of activities or difficult situations".
This is misleading though because there is no one to rest in the I am.
It’s really a realisation of being, that is the important part. Being isn’t and experience or something we can choose, it is everything already as it is.
"I am" is the way to contact Being within, our being, our essence. At the same time, as you say, Being is everything and everyone. But this is not the whole story either. Because Being is the One and the many. If you say only the One exists you are wrong. If you say it is only the many that exist you are wrong too. This is called advaita, not-two ( what implicitly means not-one either)
Well, Tami's "question": "Take me more into this notion of 'I Am'" was a bit of a challenge, wasn't it. Rupert answered as cooperatively as he could - just referring to the inexpressable experiential quality of it wouldn't have helped much either, I guess.
@@chriskrause2528 Yes, I think you are right, he tried to help. My point is that usually, advaita teachers used to give a practice to perform. For example self inquiry in the case of Ramana and connecting to the feeling of I am in the case of Nisgardatta. However, in the neoadvaita movement it seems that practicing is kind of wrong. These teachers sell a quick enlightenment without work of any kind. That is why the teacher becomes the centre. He delivers enlightenment with his words and concepts.
The answer to the question is very simple: practice and in time you will see. But to say that is not so sellable. I think that at the beginning Rupert takes the right approach, he gives a practice to perform: "rest in the presence of your being". And then Tami asks for an easy solution when there are difficult emotions. But I think there are not easy solutions, just more practice and more time until the presence of being shines even in the midst of activities or difficult emotions. Take care!
Bernardo Kastrup gave me the breakthrough I needed to access the wisdom of Rupert, et al.
Those of us who are unable to escape the intellect can give the intellect a task so it is appeased while we explore beyond awareness beyond (not behind!) thoughts
like host and interviewer, but too many commercials compared to other similar sites I have visited.
Is this book comes as an audio ??
The audiobook version is available for sale on his website.
So many ads ! Disturbs the flow !!!
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..aware we are en' appy 👶
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It’s interesting that he isn’t enlightened seeing as he drops out on awareness on bad days. Awareness on itself is 24 hours a day/365 days for people who have reached enlightenment. No big deal but he probably shouldn’t be teaching a direct path to enlightenment if he himself hasn’t gotten there with his methods. He’s close but hasn’t hit the threshold. Becoming a teacher too soon is of great peril to the seeker. Not a naysayer just observing the facts.
Enlightenment like everything in the Universe, is a process. There is no threshhold.
@@tanakaren1822 there actually is if you talk to people that have reached it. Preparing the mind for enlightenment is a process but once it comes, it’s total. The Buddha after enlightenment didn’t have bad days
Yes he's right and No. Spira is right about the mechanics but this is too much of a rabbit hole. Serve other people. Practice loving everyone. All relationships, not staring in the mirror or talking about the moment before we know we are a person. Help out a food bank people. Find someone less fortunate than you and you'll discover the self being a contribution, creating meaning, creating a by product called happiness
That sounds like conditional happiness which is a constant chase of happiness that relies on things you gotta do. This means you aren’t happy unless you do them.
Tami’s important questions were not adequately answered by Rupert Spira . Disappointing.
Tami had huge resistance to what rupert was expressing.