Cooper reminds me of Khabib, he drags you into deep waters and grinds on you until your skill level doesn't matter anymore. I love watching him reel people back in and break them at the end of mains.
Think Edson Barboza. Beautiful striking, switch kicks, BJJ. Khabib smashed him for 5 rounds. Nullified his offense. But non-stop pressure resulted in a massacre. It went the distance but Barboza probably wished it didn’t. That’s Kenny. Perfect technique, style, speed, smooth. Webb pushes and is always there. So many parallels between MMA and Moto. This podcast shows the depths of pro MX/SX.
I agree, Webb is a monster. But I see Ferrandis as being just as tough mentally. Last year Ferrandis got injured before the SX series and he was a rookie. This year, he could give Webb a good run for his money…
@@bagargui Ye, Ferrandis just needs a confidence booster in supercross. He needs to win early or it is probably gonna be Tomac/Webb/Kenny again for the title.
Cooper Webb is the Tom Brady of supercross. Not the fastest, not the strongest, but determined beyond belief, consistent as hell and knows how to manage time in the toughest moments. You can see it in him
To be fair, I can't remember which race is was (Arlington?), but Cooper, Kenny, Tomac were just absolutely flying from the gate drop to the end, lap after lap. Cooper might not be the fastest qualifier, but he was totally as fast as those other guys. (and he won)
Nah. Webb simply doesn’t have the raw speed of tomac or even Kenny. What makes webb great is his race craft and will power to win. He’s just like dungey. He heard my ever makes mistakes. While the other guys make small mistakes that cause them time. AC is probably the fastest dude in the 450 class when it comes to raw speed but racing is way more than just speed.
@@Degenerate124 I’ve seen cooper win fastest lap in qualifying and everybody loves to forget his raw speed he dominated on a 250.. im not totally disagreeing with you 8/10 days he’s not the fastest “raw” but at the end of the day champions are made of more than speed. I love sexton and cooper both roczen is a wuss that makes excuses but sexton is a warrior and I see him winning soon. Maybe not the championship but lots of races over all
@@fasterthanyou7605 webb won this titles in 250 due to his race craft as well. He reminds me a lot of RC with his style ‘ race craft and just toughness. And everyone has certain tracks where they can go super fast. I’m talking raw speed basically everywhere. AC and tomac are hands down the fastest dudes on a bike the issue is consistency with them. If tomac was consistent he’d have sooo many 450 titles right now it would be crazy. AC is soo fast he simply needs to slow down and he would be hard to beat. And as far as ken goes we’re not talking about rather he’s a cry baby or not we’re talking about speed. Hell sexton is one of the biggest excuse making cry baby’s out there like ken but he’s fast to.
@@Degenerate124 but tomac isn’t consistent and could have should have proves nothing. Fact is fact, championships are measured by what? Championships and nobody can take away anything form any champion. If you don’t have the four inches of brain between your ears to focus yourself and win or be consistent every week that’s a character flaw not a viable excuse.
Coop is my favorite ride because of what is being spoken here. The man just has the "it factor" and when he has you he steps on your neck. I love that mentality and really have an appreciation for how he makes things happen. Like he wills himself and can visualize his outcome. Powerful stuff.
Webbs line choices are so different from everyone else in supercross, the fact that he rarely makes mistakes and is always pushing is why he is the champion.
Cooper Webb may not be the fastest guy but his cornering, always riding consistent lap times and race craft is why he's so tough to beat in Supercross. If you're behind him running a faster pace he still won't let you by, he is very good at knowing where you're trying to make a pass on him and ends up shutting the door just about every single time. Wouldn't shock me if he went back to back but I'm going ET3 on the Yamaha this year.
@@bagargui Ferrandis as a rookie in the 450s is going to have some learning pains in SX. Dude is probably the fastest overall rider imo, but can he be fast every single lap in sx and not be wreckless? I think he will surprise and finish top 5 in the end, and that will be a HUGE deal for him. But, Cooper, Eli and Kenny are still the big 3 in SX. 4-5 is honestly a toss up. Seems like that changes in most races.
@@kaneCarter_ that's the thing. Nationals and Supercross are two totally different things. Nationals is about who can hang it out the most because you have a little more room for error. Supercross is 100% all about throttle control and running consistent lap times even if you're not the fastest on the track you gotta ride clean as possible as Cooper has proven plenty of times when battling Kenny.
The "fastest" rider varies from track to track. There were races where Webb wasn't the fastest guy, but there were also races where he hunted Roczen down while also slowly gapping Tomac. Webb is very often the fastest when the gate drops in the main event, and in the races where he isn't the fastest, he maximizes the speed he has to get the best finish possible. Overall though, in the 17 races, Webb was the fastest rider. That's why he's the champ
No that's not why he's a champion, there's a couple guys with more raw speed and better roll speed, he was way off the pace outdoors... and ask James if raw speed wins titles on its own. He was the fastest hands down and only got 2 titles in supercross when he was fast enough to probably tie or break MC's records if he had the other things cooper possesses.. speed is only one aspect, there's a couple guys who are faster, It's his mentality and lack of mistakes that cost most guys a lot of time that separates him. His consistency lap after lap, The way he can grab an inside and still carry speed or cut down and put the bike anywhere he wants it when other guys/bikes aren't able to do the same is what makes up for lack of raw speed, that and making fewer mistakes and then being in the positon to take advantage when other guys make their mistakes or start to fade physically..
It’s crazy how everyone talks so much shit about coop but he owns those guys and to say he’s not fast he chased down Kenny and Eli and chase last year .. dude gets no credit he deserves.. he gets credit because people have to buy it always seems like people hate the dude .. everyone loves Ken but he’s not a closer ..
Dig Chase so much 👍.. Cooper reminds me a bit of Jeff Stanton .. In a way ya don't understand it but it is REALITY 😁.. And I FREAKIN LOVE IT 👊.. Makes our sport the very BEST 👊.. Appreciate ya always GYPSY 😉.. Old G 😁
Chase is the farthest thing from a better rider than Webb is. I know you said it'[s your opinion, but you said Chase is a better rider twice and you're flat out delusional if you honestly believe that. I've heard some really hot takes, but this is the worst. All you have to do is compare their career performance. Webb by far has a better 250 career, no contest. 17 career 250 wins VS Chases 7 wins across both classes. He has 1 more title than Chase there, which happens to be an outdoor title which Chase doesn't have. And the same with Webbs 450 career. 18 SX wins, 2X SX champ, 2 450 outdoor national wins- How does any of that equate to Chase being a better rider than Webb?
Facts. Only saying that cos he’s there in front of him. Chase is incredible and you could argue he “looks” the better rider but it’s not about looks and no doubt overall Cooper is better and has always been. Just tryna build his status tho so it’s understandable him saying that.
Technically he's far above Webb. Being the fastest and most talented doesn't equate to wins though. As far as talent goes JS7 is head and shoulders above RC but his race craft wasn't nearly on point as RC. RC knew when to back down and JS7 would crash himself out.
Disagree. You had the fastest race point A to B yes but I've got bad starts and been the fastest lap time every lap but only came back to 5th. We are both right and both wrong lol
I never understand how people say he’s not the fastest. Because he doesn’t show his cards on qualifying lap times? Because he doesn’t whiskey throttle one lap? He wins ever single time because he literally is the fastest he literally has the fastest times.
Disagree, there was quite often a faster rider broke away to the front but couldn’t maintain the pace or stamina and faded away, coop was always there to capitalise, He was always top 5 quickest tho
Honestly difference between Webb and everyone else in the sport. He just fuckin wants it more than you and he's going to do anything he can to make it happen.
definetly sounds like you dont like cooper. i can tell you one thing coopers fitness is good, really good and his mental game the best. he may not be the fastest all the time but there is plenty of times when he is the fastest and when he locks onto you you better watch out cuz he will hunt you down and make it happen and at that point he will be faster than you, thats when he excells and become the fastest rider on the track
Pretty much exactly what I said. If I have a gun to my head and someone asks me who could throw down a faster lap… I’m going with Chase. Gun to my head for a title… Webb.
This is also why i loved ferrandis in 250sx. Dude was wining the races and the entire stadium would boo him the whole way around the track all the way to the podium. Dylan didn't give af, he got his titles and paychecks and carried on .
One of the best dudes in the field. I’m a roczen fan but I’m quickly picking up chase aswell. I’m all about team hrc. Chase gets some confidence and pulls a win or 2 off. He’s gonna be a diff man. He def got the skill. Just got to get the mind right.
Heading into 2023, I feel like Cooper is in the same spot where a ton of people are doubting him, because he had a tough 2022 season. But you can’t doubt the dude for a second. He’s just as capable of winning a title now as ever. Obviously guys like Tomac, and Anderson, and Sexton are the obvious favorites, but Webb is always going to be a top contender for championships. He just has that bulldog mentality, and believes in himself.
Had it happen to me one time. It stuns because the known level of competition. Stay off the ground simple as blinking or changing a bike color. Know some things
Cooper is mentally strong and he has great corner speed .he can undercut turns by a foot every lap and when tracks breaks down he stays consistent.when tracks are fast and the woops stay blitzing he is top 5.if woops break down and are jump woops he adapts quick.
The Baker factor. Before Cooper went to that camp, he struggled on the 450. It will be interesting to see what Cooper does this season on a different program. Love or hate him, Aldon Baker's program is the final piece of a lot of champion's puzzle.
Aldon is a really good mental coach, that’s the difference between cooper and the other guys. Copper just has that mindset, he plays mind games on the starting gate
@@sterben4958 yet he'll never win a outdoors championship on a 450. Let's be honest it's not Aldons training it's purely because Webb is an awesome supercross rider
Gypsy saying Webb sucks is laughable guy can flat out ride his elbows are up he makes it look like he’s slow. Yet he’s a 450 champion I think he’s got a better and bigger heart then everyone else. Not afraid to go for the win
Disagree.... if Chase was a way better rider than Webb he wouldn't spend so much time on the ground. If he was faster than Webb he would beat him. I like Chase, but his riding kind of reminds me of Marvin, not sure if he'll ever be a champion. Ferrandis is gonna take over the class IMO. And it won't be long until Jett moves up, and if Jeremy Martin ever gets a 450 ride he would be a contender also. And who knows what Eli is gonna do with Star, he could straight up blow everyone out.
It’s funny what a difference 3 1/2 months makes, no more talk about Webb being the baddest man in SuperCross. With a change to the right team Eli is absolutely laying waste to everyone on a bike no one else wanted to ride.
Webb has the heart and mind of a champion. Pure grit and determination to win and will fight for it. You can never count him out. His massive crash to his back in Arlington, to getting 3rd on the podium the NEXT weekend was just unreal. Was in so much pain they damn near had to pick him up off the bike and carry him to the medics. Other top guy's just are not willing to go extra step and sacrifice sometimes.
AC had nerve problems in his throttle hand in MX this year , that js why he would pull holes hots and start pulling away from everyone until he couldn't hang on , he would over ride it and go down. Had surgery on it at the end of outdoor and should be fast .
@@johnbabb1138 Blah blah blah, If he wasn't pre occupied with his stupid VLOG, maybe he could FOCUS. Dude thinks he's a reality star but has the personality of a celery stick...BTW: He could never stay on the bike throughout his whole career.He even handed Ferrandis a 250 championship on the last lap. Keep the HOPIUM up.He's not SMART enough to make the right choices...
@@cjmcay That's ignorant to say. Most of the top guys are vloging . It's a extra source of income as well. I highly doubt a vlog is a reason for poor results. Nerve problems at this level does effect riding weather tou agree or not
Chase sexton literally won his 250 titles the same way Webb won his 450s. Not the fastest but stayed on his bike. Forkner smoked sexton all year in 2019 but then he crashed out and handed it to sexton. I want to like sexton but don’t be a hypocrite bud. It’s not just about speed in supercross. Most people know that. But Webb is the best in supercross at the moment. Hands down.
Webb has 10 more 250 wins and 1 more 250 title than Chase does- add that in with Webb's 2 SX titles and 18 wins in the 450 class...it blows my mind hearing Jase say Chase is a way better rider than Webb. Makes zero sense.
.5 - 1.0 seconds isnt everything that everyone makes it out to be. When the gate drops on that 450 main the stadium environment and the clutch factor comes into play. Over the years Webb has shown that time and time again .
when we look back at Webb's 450 SX championship , no doubt in my mind he earned it as he was just ( ON )the whole season, I noticed he would do some very interesting combinations entering corners (where he would get most of his passes ) Webb would whip that KTM & it would land in the corner & the pass would happen in no time. Webb , Chase & Ferrandis hates to loose & it shows on their faces ,where others are happy to podium or simply get a top 5 . I think Sexton will be a big threat to all very soon & it will be interesting to see if he stays on red .
😂🤣 uh…how do you define pure speed Chase? Does Ken have it? Maybe you should go back and rewind the tapes…Cooper chasing Ken down and passing him for the win. 🤷
Did Carmichael or Reed fall into the top 5 in fastest lap times? Did McGrath? Same story different year. At that level, anyone can throw a fast lap. The difference in the champions is so much to do with mental awareness, consistency, and determination. With that said, Stew is an obvious outlier who could set the fastest lap nearly every race and had the mental qualities.
crazy alessi use to beat RV, AC use to beat cooper, Forkner use to beat Chase & then a switch flipped & all those other guys are the top pros & those other dudes cant stay healthy
Sexton needs Chad Reed to complete his future no offence James , But Chad Reed is a Big To Do About Cooper Webs strengths Chad had him along side him on his team, No one seems to think how he grew, & from WHOM.
Cooper is much like Dungey was. Not the fastest...but usually the smartest and the most consistent. The same lap times from lap one to the checkers. I also think people don't like him because he stays rather private. He's not a camera hog and concerned about inflating himself. So people think he's standoffish. Mike LaRocco was like that too. But both are genuinely great guys and not dirty on the track. I see a good season from him in SX this year.
One word that Chase said summed Cooper up "smart" Look at some of the races from 2019, he beat Adam and Ken straight up. He's a wiley old Fox is Cooper.
People don’t remember who won races. They remember who won the championship. Dungey was the same way. He wasn’t the fastest but he was the most consistent to give him the title. Dungey also wasn’t the most entertaining to watch out there since it was the same thing all the time. Dungey got the diesel nick name for these reasons.
Excuse me; if you take the checkered flag and take the win you're the fastest for that race. There's no fckng award for being fastest in practice. Yup, semantics.... I know obviously
bruh lmfao what, if someone is flying by everyone in a race but wrecks on the final lap... they are the fastest. idk, you are wrong and its easy asf to see
Everyone leaves the gate at the same time. The one who gets to the checkered flag first is the fastest. Everything in between is just filler. If you're not first, you're last.
Yep you are while you're watching Webb there are other dudes that want it just as much. Like Ferrandis, Tomac, Roczen Anderson Plessinger Barcia Musquin Ciancerello. So keep your windows closed buddy, I hope your dreams come true for you. If you do it you earned it. 👍
So I guess Webb has to be considered the #1 pick to win right, because he won last season and on new "better" bike that he likes alot since he said it is an even better race bike. Then what, Tomac and Roczen is going to be there of course. I think Tomac new bike maybe he starts pulling holeshots then what?? Ferrandis, beast of course he won 250SX.. pretty fast guy. Then you got Sexton, AC, Plessinger, Malcolm, Andersson.
You’re right, chase is way better at riding over his head. His technique of pissing it away and throwing himself face first into the dirt is second to none.
On the track I think Cooper has an F'you attitude. It isn't overt anger as that would mess up his race. He wants to dominate you, not fight you. I think he is just mentally F'you no friends on the track, he doesn't care about a bad move he makes and he makes you feel bad about a move you made. To race him you need to join him. I.e. no quarter, no F's given. Ride hard, ride hard and ride hard. Strip out the emotion and dominate him back.
Thank God for what was said. Weeb is not the fastest, yes 7th or 8th. The dude gets LUCKY, that it end of topic. Sucks at whoops, sucks at Straight Rhythm, sucks outdoors, these are not statements of hate just facts.. THE DUDE IS LUCKY.
Him saying going to the 450s was a reality check is the same thing that happened to Cooper an A.C. it's something that happens to alot of guys the power from the bike the weight difference it almost makes the 250 champions rookie riders again unless they have had some riding on the 450 like jett he ride the 450 alot an has done 450 races an he still has a few more years of 250 but when he goes over to the 450s it'll pay off he could potentially be the first person if I'm correct to transfer to the 450 class an win championship
Webb might not be the fastest but he raises his level depending on the competition he going against and when you’re always fight to be the fastest you eventually end up being the fastest
The “drugs don’t make you faster” mentality is completely missing the point. Certain PEDs allow you to train harder and for longer, then recover quicker and training DOES make you faster. That said I’m not throwing Broc under the bus because all kinds of shit gets put into supplements and all sorts these days so genuine mistakes can happen… but to pretend that PEDs can’t make you faster or fitter (and thus able to ride hard deeper into a moto) is insane.
This talk about Cooper not being that fast guy annoys me. I find it also a bit respectless towards his competitors whom he beats on a regular basis. If Cooper is able to hunt you down over a number of laps, it means he is bloody fast. Don't care if he's the fastest or what not. Besides, if we talk about technicality and style, Cooper is a very short guy, it's physically impossible for him to use his body on the bike like Chase or Marvin do. That doesn't make Cooper a less talented rider. Of course there's the multitude of other factors.
Cooper reminds me of Khabib, he drags you into deep waters and grinds on you until your skill level doesn't matter anymore. I love watching him reel people back in and break them at the end of mains.
Brilliant comment
Think Edson Barboza. Beautiful striking, switch kicks, BJJ. Khabib smashed him for 5 rounds. Nullified his offense. But non-stop pressure resulted in a massacre. It went the distance but Barboza probably wished it didn’t. That’s Kenny. Perfect technique, style, speed, smooth. Webb pushes and is always there. So many parallels between MMA and Moto. This podcast shows the depths of pro MX/SX.
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@@GYPSYTALES mental game legend! Cooper is a master at mind over matter.
Wrestling is a skill bro. Hes one of the best grapplers ever.
Webb is a beast. Hunts you down, wears you out and leaves you behind.
Webb is a master of racecraft and mental toughness. That wins championships.
I agree, Webb is a monster. But I see Ferrandis as being just as tough mentally. Last year Ferrandis got injured before the SX series and he was a rookie. This year, he could give Webb a good run for his money…
@@bagargui Ye, Ferrandis just needs a confidence booster in supercross. He needs to win early or it is probably gonna be Tomac/Webb/Kenny again for the title.
@@bagargui big time
Cooper Webb is the Tom Brady of supercross. Not the fastest, not the strongest, but determined beyond belief, consistent as hell and knows how to manage time in the toughest moments. You can see it in him
Lmao terrible comparison but i get what you’re saying.
@@JW-ot5zq I think the comparison was more about their path/strategy to success, not that they have achieved the same level of success overall.
@@thomaslopez7437 looking back at it, you’re correct.
Coop is a pure champion. Consistent and Relentless.
Webb second half of the race when the track breaks down is a whole nother animal
To be fair, I can't remember which race is was (Arlington?), but Cooper, Kenny, Tomac were just absolutely flying from the gate drop to the end, lap after lap. Cooper might not be the fastest qualifier, but he was totally as fast as those other guys. (and he won)
Nah. Webb simply doesn’t have the raw speed of tomac or even Kenny. What makes webb great is his race craft and will power to win. He’s just like dungey. He heard my ever makes mistakes. While the other guys make small mistakes that cause them time. AC is probably the fastest dude in the 450 class when it comes to raw speed but racing is way more than just speed.
Arlington. I was there
@@Degenerate124 I’ve seen cooper win fastest lap in qualifying and everybody loves to forget his raw speed he dominated on a 250.. im not totally disagreeing with you 8/10 days he’s not the fastest “raw” but at the end of the day champions are made of more than speed. I love sexton and cooper both roczen is a wuss that makes excuses but sexton is a warrior and I see him winning soon. Maybe not the championship but lots of races over all
@@fasterthanyou7605 webb won this titles in 250 due to his race craft as well. He reminds me a lot of RC with his style ‘ race craft and just toughness. And everyone has certain tracks where they can go super fast. I’m talking raw speed basically everywhere. AC and tomac are hands down the fastest dudes on a bike the issue is consistency with them. If tomac was consistent he’d have sooo many 450 titles right now it would be crazy. AC is soo fast he simply needs to slow down and he would be hard to beat. And as far as ken goes we’re not talking about rather he’s a cry baby or not we’re talking about speed. Hell sexton is one of the biggest excuse making cry baby’s out there like ken but he’s fast to.
@@Degenerate124 but tomac isn’t consistent and could have should have proves nothing. Fact is fact, championships are measured by what? Championships and nobody can take away anything form any champion. If you don’t have the four inches of brain between your ears to focus yourself and win or be consistent every week that’s a character flaw not a viable excuse.
Coop is my favorite ride because of what is being spoken here. The man just has the "it factor" and when he has you he steps on your neck. I love that mentality and really have an appreciation for how he makes things happen. Like he wills himself and can visualize his outcome. Powerful stuff.
“Killer instinct” as some say
Lmfao Wheres his Killer instincts this year!?
Webbs line choices are so different from everyone else in supercross, the fact that he rarely makes mistakes and is always pushing is why he is the champion.
IMO all forms of racing require physical skill, but at the highest levels it’s a mental battle.
yes, but a mental battle among the stand out freaks, not like a mental battle among the also-rans.
@@chrisjacks2599 lol agree
agree. At this level, you’re all pretty fuckin good at what yall do, something else has to be a separator.
Cooper Webb may not be the fastest guy but his cornering, always riding consistent lap times and race craft is why he's so tough to beat in Supercross. If you're behind him running a faster pace he still won't let you by, he is very good at knowing where you're trying to make a pass on him and ends up shutting the door just about every single time. Wouldn't shock me if he went back to back but I'm going ET3 on the Yamaha this year.
Ferrandis could also be up there…
@@bagargui Ferrandis as a rookie in the 450s is going to have some learning pains in SX. Dude is probably the fastest overall rider imo, but can he be fast every single lap in sx and not be wreckless? I think he will surprise and finish top 5 in the end, and that will be a HUGE deal for him. But, Cooper, Eli and Kenny are still the big 3 in SX. 4-5 is honestly a toss up. Seems like that changes in most races.
@@ave0828 After watching what he did in nationals I wouldn't be surprised to see him do the same thing in supercross
@@kaneCarter_ that's the thing. Nationals and Supercross are two totally different things. Nationals is about who can hang it out the most because you have a little more room for error. Supercross is 100% all about throttle control and running consistent lap times even if you're not the fastest on the track you gotta ride clean as possible as Cooper has proven plenty of times when battling Kenny.
@@ave0828 Ferrandis proved in 250 that he is fast in SX. With one year under his belt, he will be a threat…
The "fastest" rider varies from track to track. There were races where Webb wasn't the fastest guy, but there were also races where he hunted Roczen down while also slowly gapping Tomac. Webb is very often the fastest when the gate drops in the main event, and in the races where he isn't the fastest, he maximizes the speed he has to get the best finish possible. Overall though, in the 17 races, Webb was the fastest rider. That's why he's the champ
Love this comment! Every time I would hear Ricky say he’s not the fastest guy out on the track it grinder my gears
He’s not the fastest rider lol his starts put him in position to win races.
@@llLeezy not only that but second half of races he finds a second gear and hunts people down
@@llLeezy yup especially in startcross.. lol outdoors not so much
No that's not why he's a champion, there's a couple guys with more raw speed and better roll speed, he was way off the pace outdoors... and ask James if raw speed wins titles on its own. He was the fastest hands down and only got 2 titles in supercross when he was fast enough to probably tie or break MC's records if he had the other things cooper possesses.. speed is only one aspect, there's a couple guys who are faster, It's his mentality and lack of mistakes that cost most guys a lot of time that separates him. His consistency lap after lap, The way he can grab an inside and still carry speed or cut down and put the bike anywhere he wants it when other guys/bikes aren't able to do the same is what makes up for lack of raw speed, that and making fewer mistakes and then being in the positon to take advantage when other guys make their mistakes or start to fade physically..
It’s crazy how everyone talks so much shit about coop but he owns those guys and to say he’s not fast he chased down Kenny and Eli and chase last year .. dude gets no credit he deserves.. he gets credit because people have to buy it always seems like people hate the dude .. everyone loves Ken but he’s not a closer ..
Dig Chase so much 👍.. Cooper reminds me a bit of Jeff Stanton .. In a way ya don't understand it but it is REALITY 😁.. And I FREAKIN LOVE IT 👊.. Makes our sport the very BEST 👊.. Appreciate ya always GYPSY 😉.. Old G 😁
Definitely a Stanton/Dowd...hell, even Dungy type rider.
Coop isn't the fastest guy, but that dude is a beast. Chase is just way too inconsistent and can't get it done week in and week out.
Cooper Webb came into the pros with the same grit and toughness he has now. He continues to improve and it’s impressive
Keep an eye on Sexton this year. Deep field though. Great interview. We’ll see!!
It's great seeing this side of CS23. He reminds me so much of RV2 and being a robot on screen. It's great seeing him being normal
Chase is the farthest thing from a better rider than Webb is. I know you said it'[s your opinion, but you said Chase is a better rider twice and you're flat out delusional if you honestly believe that. I've heard some really hot takes, but this is the worst. All you have to do is compare their career performance. Webb by far has a better 250 career, no contest. 17 career 250 wins VS Chases 7 wins across both classes. He has 1 more title than Chase there, which happens to be an outdoor title which Chase doesn't have. And the same with Webbs 450 career. 18 SX wins, 2X SX champ, 2 450 outdoor national wins- How does any of that equate to Chase being a better rider than Webb?
I was thinking the exact same thing when he said that… unbelievable comment 🤦♂️
Facts. Only saying that cos he’s there in front of him. Chase is incredible and you could argue he “looks” the better rider but it’s not about looks and no doubt overall Cooper is better and has always been. Just tryna build his status tho so it’s understandable him saying that.
Technically he's far above Webb. Being the fastest and most talented doesn't equate to wins though. As far as talent goes JS7 is head and shoulders above RC but his race craft wasn't nearly on point as RC. RC knew when to back down and JS7 would crash himself out.
If you get to the checkered flag 1st, you were the fastest that day.
Disagree. You had the fastest race point A to B yes but I've got bad starts and been the fastest lap time every lap but only came back to 5th. We are both right and both wrong lol
@@austinspired I don't know? Seems to me, the 1st across the line had the fastest overall race time.
@@skidjscorrect sir.
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If cooper isn’t the fastest, why did he WIN races? Fastest wins right?
Tell me you don't watch supercross without telling me you don't watch supercross
I never understand how people say he’s not the fastest. Because he doesn’t show his cards on qualifying lap times? Because he doesn’t whiskey throttle one lap? He wins ever single time because he literally is the fastest he literally has the fastest times.
He’s definitely not the fastest.. he’s the most consistent
@@Cammo199 the past three years of supercross he was the fastest he would of won 2020 if he didn’t crash and miss a race.
Disagree, there was quite often a faster rider broke away to the front but couldn’t maintain the pace or stamina and faded away, coop was always there to capitalise, He was always top 5 quickest tho
Another great one! Can’t wait for the new season! Gypsy Gang!
The new "cool" is to open up! Thanks for the content!
Honestly difference between Webb and everyone else in the sport. He just fuckin wants it more than you and he's going to do anything he can to make it happen.
definetly sounds like you dont like cooper. i can tell you one thing coopers fitness is good, really good and his mental game the best. he may not be the fastest all the time but there is plenty of times when he is the fastest and when he locks onto you you better watch out cuz he will hunt you down and make it happen and at that point he will be faster than you, thats when he excells and become the fastest rider on the track
Pretty much exactly what I said. If I have a gun to my head and someone asks me who could throw down a faster lap… I’m going with Chase. Gun to my head for a title… Webb.
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I grew up watching cooper ride, he’s a few years younger than me I remember when he was on a 65 and 85. We use to ride the same tracks in NC
Coop has it down. Speed is there, mental health there, he learns what everyone else is doing and find a faster way to win
This is also why i loved ferrandis in 250sx. Dude was wining the races and the entire stadium would boo him the whole way around the track all the way to the podium. Dylan didn't give af, he got his titles and paychecks and carried on .
One of the best dudes in the field. I’m a roczen fan but I’m quickly picking up chase aswell. I’m all about team hrc. Chase gets some confidence and pulls a win or 2 off. He’s gonna be a diff man. He def got the skill. Just got to get the mind right.
Also he’s still very young. He just now got a taste and knows what to expect.
Heading into 2023, I feel like Cooper is in the same spot where a ton of people are doubting him, because he had a tough 2022 season. But you can’t doubt the dude for a second. He’s just as capable of winning a title now as ever. Obviously guys like Tomac, and Anderson, and Sexton are the obvious favorites, but Webb is always going to be a top contender for championships. He just has that bulldog mentality, and believes in himself.
Had it happen to me one time. It stuns because the known level of competition. Stay off the ground simple as blinking or changing a bike color. Know some things
Cooper is mentally strong and he has great corner speed .he can undercut turns by a foot every lap and when tracks breaks down he stays consistent.when tracks are fast and the woops stay blitzing he is top 5.if woops break down and are jump woops he adapts quick.
If Cooper ever gets those whoops… he will be unstoppable
The Baker factor. Before Cooper went to that camp, he struggled on the 450. It will be interesting to see what Cooper does this season on a different program. Love or hate him, Aldon Baker's program is the final piece of a lot of champion's puzzle.
Aldon is a really good mental coach, that’s the difference between cooper and the other guys. Copper just has that mindset, he plays mind games on the starting gate
@@sterben4958 yet he'll never win a outdoors championship on a 450. Let's be honest it's not Aldons training it's purely because Webb is an awesome supercross rider
@Peter Kranenburg he left the bakers factor though. So let’s see how he does this year.
I've seen it do the opposite, where people just get burnt out and actually becomes detrimental
Webbs a Beast loved watching his 250 days
This kid's got a head on his shoulders. It's hard to believe he's only 23. I like him.
Gypsy saying Webb sucks is laughable guy can flat out ride his elbows are up he makes it look like he’s slow. Yet he’s a 450 champion I think he’s got a better and bigger heart then everyone else. Not afraid to go for the win
Agreed.
Chase will be in title contention this year sx & od
Disagree.... if Chase was a way better rider than Webb he wouldn't spend so much time on the ground. If he was faster than Webb he would beat him. I like Chase, but his riding kind of reminds me of Marvin, not sure if he'll ever be a champion. Ferrandis is gonna take over the class IMO. And it won't be long until Jett moves up, and if Jeremy Martin ever gets a 450 ride he would be a contender also. And who knows what Eli is gonna do with Star, he could straight up blow everyone out.
According to Jase, leading some laps and being a fast qualifier from time to time equals being better than a 5 time champion
"kill em with kindness until you can beat em" - wow, nice quote - very Sun Tzu like!!
I like Webb, he’s like a great white shark when he gets behind the leader in the last 4 laps, he’s a threat to any rider in the field
Webb imo uses the it's not how you start it's how you finish mentality any time he's racing his competitors.
Chase, the class is gnarly and to be dominate is unrealistic, being consistent is the key, so just keep that in the brain bucket and you'll get there.
It’s funny what a difference 3 1/2 months makes, no more talk about Webb being the baddest man in SuperCross. With a change to the right team Eli is absolutely laying waste to everyone on a bike no one else wanted to ride.
Webb has the heart and mind of a champion. Pure grit and determination to win and will fight for it. You can never count him out. His massive crash to his back in Arlington, to getting 3rd on the podium the NEXT weekend was just unreal. Was in so much pain they damn near had to pick him up off the bike and carry him to the medics. Other top guy's just are not willing to go extra step and sacrifice sometimes.
AC is probably the fastest, but it doesn't matter how fast you are when you can't stay on the bike?
Tomac is faster then Adam when he’s on but for Eli it was far and few between
AC definitely isn’t the fastest wtf lol
AC had nerve problems in his throttle hand in MX this year , that js why he would pull holes hots and start pulling away from everyone until he couldn't hang on , he would over ride it and go down. Had surgery on it at the end of outdoor and should be fast .
@@johnbabb1138 Blah blah blah, If he wasn't pre occupied with his stupid VLOG, maybe he could FOCUS. Dude thinks he's a reality star but has the personality of a celery stick...BTW: He could never stay on the bike throughout his whole career.He even handed Ferrandis a 250 championship on the last lap. Keep the HOPIUM up.He's not SMART enough to make the right choices...
@@cjmcay That's ignorant to say. Most of the top guys are vloging . It's a extra source of income as well. I highly doubt a vlog is a reason for poor results. Nerve problems at this level does effect riding weather tou agree or not
Chase sexton literally won his 250 titles the same way Webb won his 450s. Not the fastest but stayed on his bike. Forkner smoked sexton all year in 2019 but then he crashed out and handed it to sexton. I want to like sexton but don’t be a hypocrite bud. It’s not just about speed in supercross. Most people know that. But Webb is the best in supercross at the moment. Hands down.
Webb has 10 more 250 wins and 1 more 250 title than Chase does- add that in with Webb's 2 SX titles and 18 wins in the 450 class...it blows my mind hearing Jase say Chase is a way better rider than Webb. Makes zero sense.
@@thebordenasylum7726 the disrespect for Webb runs deep throughout the industry. But Webb feeds off that so no worries lol
2:10 "he's obviously got something figured out we don't" wow that's keepin' it a hundet.
Saying PEDs don't matter is really ignorant.
Chase is definitely an Illinois country boy. Totally honest with himself as most Illinois country boys are.
.5 - 1.0 seconds isnt everything that everyone makes it out to be. When the gate drops on that 450 main the stadium environment and the clutch factor comes into play. Over the years Webb has shown that time and time again .
Sexton is doing his job as the new Honda top guy, getting passed by Coop late in the race.
when we look back at Webb's 450 SX championship , no doubt in my mind he earned it as he was just ( ON )the whole season, I noticed he would do some very interesting combinations entering corners (where he would get most of his passes ) Webb would whip that KTM & it would land in the corner & the pass would happen in no time. Webb , Chase & Ferrandis hates to loose & it shows on their faces ,where others are happy to podium or simply get a top 5 . I think Sexton will be a big threat to all very soon & it will be interesting to see if he stays on red .
😂🤣 uh…how do you define pure speed Chase? Does Ken have it? Maybe you should go back and rewind the tapes…Cooper chasing Ken down and passing him for the win. 🤷
Did Carmichael or Reed fall into the top 5 in fastest lap times? Did McGrath? Same story different year. At that level, anyone can throw a fast lap. The difference in the champions is so much to do with mental awareness, consistency, and determination. With that said, Stew is an obvious outlier who could set the fastest lap nearly every race and had the mental qualities.
chase is for sure the future
Webb is clearly the fastest guy .. Championships are #Facts
#letsgobrandon
chase needs to keep it on 2 wheels to win a championship
Everyone pay's the dues moving up !
People saying Cooper isn’t fast is literally dumb. You can’t put yourself in position to win if you aren’t there.
crazy alessi use to beat RV, AC use to beat cooper, Forkner use to beat Chase & then a switch flipped & all those other guys are the top pros & those other dudes cant stay healthy
lol Coop has been the fastest many many times. Beat everyone straight up over and over last season.
You guys are really smart. 😂
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Sexton needs Chad Reed to complete his future no offence James , But Chad Reed is a Big To Do About Cooper Webs strengths
Chad had him along side him on his team,
No one seems to think how he grew, & from WHOM.
Cooper is much like Dungey was. Not the fastest...but usually the smartest and the most consistent. The same lap times from lap one to the checkers. I also think people don't like him because he stays rather private. He's not a camera hog and concerned about inflating himself. So people think he's standoffish. Mike LaRocco was like that too. But both are genuinely great guys and not dirty on the track. I see a good season from him in SX this year.
10 guys that can win is about right. 3 x KTM's, 2 X Star Yamaha's, 2 X Honda's, 2 x Kawasaki's and maybe Malcolm stewart.
Webb wins motos before they start. Hes in kennys head rent free
This interview could be Today, as well. : /
Bogan Jesus vs. Cooper Webb is the new Matthes vs. Carmichael
Coop is a gamer. When the lights come on he steps up and most guys start making mistakes
One word that Chase said summed Cooper up "smart"
Look at some of the races from 2019, he beat Adam and Ken straight up. He's a wiley old Fox is Cooper.
RV also entered the 450 class and had no success…maybe it’s Baker
I think ferrandis gonna be the surprise this year in 450
People don’t remember who won races. They remember who won the championship. Dungey was the same way. He wasn’t the fastest but he was the most consistent to give him the title. Dungey also wasn’t the most entertaining to watch out there since it was the same thing all the time. Dungey got the diesel nick name for these reasons.
CW was tough even on a mini. Chase, dont think that way. you have less hrs than CW. just have fun.
I like everyone says “he’s not the fastest” but he won the championship…. Doesn’t that mean overall (or on average) coop is the fastest!?
Chase may be faster , but webb is way more race craftier !
all mental...to be champion.... period
Excuse me; if you take the checkered flag and take the win you're the fastest for that race.
There's no fckng award for being fastest in practice.
Yup, semantics.... I know obviously
That's not always the case. Just because you win doesn't mean you were the fastest
bruh lmfao what, if someone is flying by everyone in a race but wrecks on the final lap... they are the fastest. idk, you are wrong and its easy asf to see
Everyone leaves the gate at the same time. The one who gets to the checkered flag first is the fastest. Everything in between is just filler. If you're not first, you're last.
Yep you are while you're watching Webb there are other dudes that want it just as much. Like Ferrandis, Tomac, Roczen Anderson Plessinger Barcia Musquin Ciancerello. So keep your windows closed buddy, I hope your dreams come true for you. If you do it you earned it. 👍
Race craft. Thats how. He can change his pace on a whim.
So I guess Webb has to be considered the #1 pick to win right, because he won last season and on new "better" bike that he likes alot since he said it is an even better race bike.
Then what, Tomac and Roczen is going to be there of course. I think Tomac new bike maybe he starts pulling holeshots then what??
Ferrandis, beast of course he won 250SX.. pretty fast guy.
Then you got Sexton, AC, Plessinger, Malcolm, Andersson.
You’re right, chase is way better at riding over his head. His technique of pissing it away and throwing himself face first into the dirt is second to none.
Honestly once webb drops the hammer that’s it everyone’s dust & that’s the same with Tomac. Once they both drop the hammer it’s game over.
On the track I think Cooper has an F'you attitude. It isn't overt anger as that would mess up his race. He wants to dominate you, not fight you. I think he is just mentally F'you no friends on the track, he doesn't care about a bad move he makes and he makes you feel bad about a move you made. To race him you need to join him. I.e. no quarter, no F's given. Ride hard, ride hard and ride hard. Strip out the emotion and dominate him back.
Thank God for what was said. Weeb is not the fastest, yes 7th or 8th. The dude gets LUCKY, that it end of topic. Sucks at whoops, sucks at Straight Rhythm, sucks outdoors, these are not statements of hate just facts..
THE DUDE IS LUCKY.
I don’t think anyone is lucky enough to win two championships just on luck.
Talent and technique alone don't make champions in any sport. CW has the hardware, your opinions of his skill level won't change that.
Him saying going to the 450s was a reality check is the same thing that happened to Cooper an A.C. it's something that happens to alot of guys the power from the bike the weight difference it almost makes the 250 champions rookie riders again unless they have had some riding on the 450 like jett he ride the 450 alot an has done 450 races an he still has a few more years of 250 but when he goes over to the 450s it'll pay off he could potentially be the first person if I'm correct to transfer to the 450 class an win championship
Disagree with your a way better comment. He wins alot guys.
Winners win. It’s that simple
Webb might not be the fastest but he raises his level depending on the competition he going against and when you’re always fight to be the fastest you eventually end up being the fastest
The “drugs don’t make you faster” mentality is completely missing the point. Certain PEDs allow you to train harder and for longer, then recover quicker and training DOES make you faster.
That said I’m not throwing Broc under the bus because all kinds of shit gets put into supplements and all sorts these days so genuine mistakes can happen… but to pretend that PEDs can’t make you faster or fitter (and thus able to ride hard deeper into a moto) is insane.
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He’s living rent free in your head! Good luck you already sound defeated
Lol, how can you say Chase is a way better rider. How many times has he beat Webb?
Racecraft > Speed
This talk about Cooper not being that fast guy annoys me. I find it also a bit respectless towards his competitors whom he beats on a regular basis. If Cooper is able to hunt you down over a number of laps, it means he is bloody fast. Don't care if he's the fastest or what not.
Besides, if we talk about technicality and style, Cooper is a very short guy, it's physically impossible for him to use his body on the bike like Chase or Marvin do. That doesn't make Cooper a less talented rider.
Of course there's the multitude of other factors.
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