Grand National Roller Coaster, RMC Concept - Blackpool Pleasure Beach, POV
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- The Dueling Grand National RMC. Do you prefer the Right or the Left side lift?
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"England's classic racing coaster, Grand National, turns into a dueling horse race. With new steel track, the coaster is smoother than ever, but features the familiar red and white colors that we all grew up with." #Blackpool #PleasureBeach #BPB
When making these I try to focus on realism, and think 'what would RMC do in this situation?'
If this transformation was even possible, I believe the one-track Mobius layout of Grand National would be turned into two separate tracks. The coaster offers two long rides due to how the layout is set up, and I do believe two-separate tracks is what the Rocky Mountain Construction Crew would do.
This was a tough one that took quite a bit of time and had me erasing and re-building multiple times, but very happy how it turned out!
The tracks duel throughout the length of this ride, offering very different ride experiences. They jockey for position three times throughout the length of the course, left to right or right to left, after all the twists and turns, your train ends in the same station as you begin.
Which do you prefer? Right or Left?
As always, this coaster was created using an overlay of the actual satellite image of Grand National at Blackpool Pleasure Beach. It follows the layout as exact as possible and features a 14-foot height increase from the current G.N. The hills follow a very similar height to was is already built, as this is generally what Rocky Mountain will do when revamping a ride. I hope you enjoyed the POV.
In reality this is extremely unlikely to ever happen, the issue I see with this ride getting an RMC transformation is the clearance to the train on the other track (As it is, you can high five the other train during the ride) , which is why if anything is ever done to this ride, I would guess it would likely just be a re-tracking and refurbishment of the same track we see today.
If RMC were to turn it into a steel-track conversion, I could only see them turning this into a single-track ride, similar to how RMC took Twisted Sisters/Twisted Twins at Kentucky Kingdom and made it a one-track ride instead of the two layouts that it used to be.
I hope you get your RMC soon UK coaster fans, but don't expect it out of this coaster in my opinion!
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Right or Left?
Both although.... Left if I had to choose
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AmusementInsider right 😍
That would be the best Coaster in the UK.
It's already one of the best in the UK!
If it was a Mobius then best in world
Christian Moss you taking the piss?
it wouldn’t beat icon
@@mylaaj208 I’m sorry but it would
Can you imagine if they did this? The uproar would be INSANE!
:D
Now That's Just Gay It would ruin the ride.
Danielle Dewitt you clearly haven’t been on a rmc
Cythrox Cythrox Maybe I have maybe I haven’t but that’s irrelevent.
@@danielledewitt1 yeah you definitely haven't :-) That's OK though, I haven't either ;-)
This looks incredible. The transitions, airtime, inversions, feel so natural. Both sides have their own defining moments. The Barrel Roll Downdrop and the back to back Stengel Dives for the right track, and the demented ejector and double down off the lift for the left track, it’s all so amazing.
WOW!!!! I love this!! My favourite wooden rollercoaster and this modern twist on it is amazing. I'd ride this over and over x
While this is pretty awesome, I think there would be riots in the streets if BPB announced something like this.
Nice concept but the Grand National is a mobius looping coaster of which there’s only 3 in the world, so to lose that element would be a no from me. But nice coaster!
But this is still a mobius loop
No, it's not, currently, you leave the right side like in the first pov but arrive in the left side like the second pov. In this you arrive in the same side you leave from, so it's two separate loops.
Harrison Baguley did you even watch the video??
@@officialrazorhq5905 you leave from the same side you finish at, watch the video. In the actual Grand National you arrive the opposite end, so you go from left to right or vice versa. This is not mobiüs, it's just two intertwined rollercoasters.
My wording is a bit weird in the first comment; by currently I mean 'on the actual ride'.
Looks wicked but the grand national is an amazing woody you can't change it I would be gutted
You realize not all of these are a “this should happen” but more of a “what if” scenario, right?
@@user-yn1bd4yf3h What about PTC?
It can’t be beaten
This is a really cool interpretation and I would love to see it at Pleasure Beach, but it would never be feasible, I wouldn’t think they have the funds, there would be uproar over removing Grand National, and it would be a same to see a möbius loop go. Does make me crave an RMC in the UK though
Ellie C they would keep it a möbius if possible and with the success of icon then it is now well within their reach, it would be a shame to see it go but it’s not aged particularly well, so I can see them doing something with the grand National soon
Ellie C I’m hoping Thorpe will give us that RMC, whether it’s like outlaw run or the new one in Poland, never know
I wouldn’t say never, most of these projects don’t cost as much as they seem like they would
How about instead of it becoming an RMC, how about giving it the same treatment Ghost Rider got? Have GCI re-track it and give it Millennium Flyers. The other woodies could have it too.
HR - I was just talking about the cost bruh, I wasn’t saying it was my preference of what can happen LUL (also, unpopular opinion, but ghostrider wasn’t entirely improved through its transition)
It’s an awesome video but the Nash is a möbius - and has teased people with the swapping station sides ever since it was built in 1935. You can’t lose that element of the ride. No way.
Roger Edwards Marketing TV yeah when I first rode it I was confused as hell 😂
You have 1000 subs rn! Congrats! Also, this could be one of the best rmc’s! Wow! I can’t pick my favorite side!
That was so much longer than I expected. Definitely prefer the right side.
Really badass layout, this would be amazing as its own ride at a different park maybe.
If you think this will happen to the Grand National then you are living in a dream world.
Love it, been waiting ages for someone to do this and I know I asked you to do one ! Would be better with red and blue track for opposite side tho 👍🏻👍🏻
Coaster Crazy I didn’t know how because I made it as one coaster instead of two!🤷♂️ thanks
AmusementInsider oh no worries, still an awesome concept tho and thanks for doing it 👍🏻
2:35 looks kinda violent, and i LOVE it.
This would be *incredible*
I love the Grand National cus i see it as a traditional old bone shaker of a woodie. Everytime ive rode it ive got bruises and i still would ride it all day if i could. I honestly hope they never do anything like this video to it as theme parks nowadays seem to be constantly trying to out do each other. Keep the iconic old woodie coasters so the kids of tomorrow can complain how they aint as exciting at the newest looping, twisting whatever piece of metal they ride next lol x
The Grand National can’t be RMC’d due to the way it was constructed, but nice video, it works really well. 👍
Even if it could though i know it wouldn't happen because it's marked to be preserved
Katerina Kittycat They can apply to make changes if it’s in the interest of the business.
yeah I assume this is because tracks are one support structure.. Only option that would be possible is a Twisted Sisters-type thing like Kentucky Kingdom. Take the supports from both coasters and only create one in its place. It'll never happen
I suppose as long as they didn't change the name and explained the make over then they'd probably be fine
The Nash doesn't have large concrete foundations in the ground like modern coasters do.
I think I prefer the right side as it seems a bit less rough but this is a fantastic creation which totally keeps the design and air time humps of the original with classic RMC elements
Brilliant concept, but from a massive fan of the ride and of the park, I don't think they'll do it nor would the public like it.
I understand that this is a concept, but RMC Grand National will never happen, nor do I want it to happen. It's vintage appeal would be ruined with an Iron Horse conversion. I would be interested if you could try an RMC Megafobia concept layout, that would be great
People would kick off with megafobia too - I know I would but I'm open to see what could be done if they rmc an already excellent ride
If they RMC Megaphobia we would lose one of Wardley's masterpieces
eh. Rampage at alabama adventure is a near clone of megafobia
A nice idea but vastly out of scale and a physical impossibility without building an entirely brand new ride - the Blackpool woodies have no footers, just a wooden foot in the sand. The only option is a full retracking while keeping the PTC cars, which were a bespoke build to be as light as possible due to the nature of the structure. A larger track stack and mid-span ledgers would transform the venerable classic into a ride likely better than new in 1935, while keeping the original profile. Heavier trains aren't an option and RMC is an impossibility. A very well made NL model though - love the station and surrounding park, very well done indeed. :)
Professionally I'm in close talks with a company that has done construction work for RMC, a company that is now one of the premier woodie refurbishment specialists (you'll likely not have heard of them but they've done a lot of work around the world, some on behalf of the big names, currently finishing off work on Thundercoaster in Norway). We've talked at length about the Grand National. My dream would be to be able to offer a full refurb to the PB but while there's a slim possibility at present, it might one day be possible. It's just my own dream however and the old adage "how long is a piece of string" applies...! It is in no way on the cards, but if I do find myself in a position to work with a company that could one day make an offer, I'd love to transform my old favourite to the best it's ever been while keeping the original profile.
Big Dipper would be the candidate for new trains, likely articulated 3-bench PTCs, however the same caveat regarding structure and footers applies. The standard modern cars are significantly heavier than the current cars, including the very bespoke PTCs put on the National in 2006.
Awesome coaster! Best looking racing coaster I have seen yet!
Uk needs a rmc baddddds
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As much as I love RMC and their coasters, Blackpool Pleasure Beach and UK enthusiasts will never want to do it. It's a classic Möbius Loop woodie. Sure it is REALLY rough but it is still an enjoyable ride.
Good concept - Right has 4 inversions and Left has 3, but with more wave turns it seems - this is quite interesting. That said, how about making one side Green? That would look pretty cool!
And yet left looks more fun
That's amazeballs😍🔥👌
too many inversions
uhhhhh no........
This would be incredible!
The national needs fixing without a doubt, but not in this way. + it's grade 2 listed, so this would never happen!
Are you Alan Schilke?
(What the Hack, this goodness)
British Twisted Colossus, or maybe English Twisted Colossus
This needs to be on the steam workshop!!
That was amazing
Absolutely amazing. keep it up
I think a ground up RMC is the best for the UK bc our woodies are either Old,New or people really enjoy it.
is there a reason why i love barrrel roll drops
looks better than twisted timbers
This is actually really good lol
About as likely as the plans for a "Bigger One" stretching out into the sea coming to fruition sadly. Doesnt make your design any less cool though, awesome job 😁
Amazing work. Looks wilder than TC. The GG trains suit the ultra twister layout
A man can dream
Sick
Would there be room for it otherwise ? That is an amazing concept.
Why put timberliners on an RMC? It’s not and, just interesting, unless that’s the only thing that you could use
I think that a classsic like this should stay, maybe an rmc nick streak but that pushing the limit a touch, dont get me wrong i live no where near an rmc so and rmc at blackpool would be great but not grand national
There are only two parks in the UK that should be in the discussion for an RMC: Thorpe Park (ground-up wooden roller coaster) and Oakwood (RMC Megafobia)
XplosiveGamer105 idk a ground up at blackool would be super cool
I am bothered by one part, @3:22 where both coasters twist the same way. If this was built in real world then you just turned one train directly at the bottom of the other train, this just feels unsafe. To me it would feel better if the angles were reversed... look at Twisted Colossus at Six Flag Magic Mountain, how the trains turn in towards each other or out away from each other, but never the same way giving this kind of top to bottom sideways angle. Just my opinion.
this is quite a wild ride, not sure I could handle this irl haha
I absolutely love RMC. twisted Colossus is my number 2 Coaster. I also love the Grand national (especially the back carriage). It still provides an intense ride experience.
I really hope RMC does come to the UK but not as a conversion of any current Coaster. This is a great layout design and I love the concept but leave the GN alone!
What if they rebuilt it as one side being an intense RMC conversion, and the other as just an updated version of Grand National's existing track, so you could choose your ride experience?
@@nathanberridge7321 interesting concept but would never happen. You wouldn't be able to high five anymore.
Would this actually fit in the footprint of where it stands now do you think?!
Would love to see this happen some day!
I don't think it would but they could always get rid of infusion because I don't think anyone would miss it
@@liamcollinson5695grand national is nowhere near infusion mate 😭
@@liamcollinson5695Infusion should be paperclips
On one hand I feel like that would be amazing, but on the other hand it feels like you guys would be losing a National Treasure... how do you guys feel about this? As somebody who's not from England or has never been to that park, that RollerCoaster could be terrible for all I know. Either way, great Recreation!
Cannot be altered its grade 2 listed
i like RMC But the Grand National is fine as it is
WOW!!! THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN!!!!!!
I hope they do topper track at the very least, Im only 16 & have gotten whiplash from both the Grand National & Big Dipper.
I’d love to say I like this, but RMC really needs to stop it with the over banks turns every other turn.
Cool concept but I do think it would be better as a mobius loop coaster in the style of Twisted Colossus.
that must be crazy ride if happen mean first Europe RMC duel
Not bad, but not a lot of side switching which left the trains in the same place relative to each other for a while; the two sides also seemed fairly similar to each other for the most part (aside from a few places obviously). Additionally, there were some wonky areas.. and it seemed kind of bizarre that the trains didn’t dispatch at the same time. 🤔 again, not a bad ride, but there are a few areas that could use some improvement
0MindSwept0 thanksfor the constructive comment. Id love to revisit this and rework the track more at some point. Especially since RMC is now a coaster type
The trains do dispatch at the same time but the prelift is longer on the right side so they don’t match up exact.
Well hopefully you can get that worked out in your next rendition 👍
I think its a classic and just needs a re tracking and maybe new cars for a faster smoother experience. It can be painful on wheel seats and the cornering is rough as toast. I'd like to see this concept built as new coaster somewhere tho..
Perfect
I would name this coaster “Typhoon”
maybe this could potentially be built at alton towers in the galactica car park?
I joked about RMC grand national in the comment section of a Pleasure Beach Experience video about the future of BPB not even knowing this video existed
Also Grand National gets the Iron Horse treatment (Pun intended)
I’d be horrified if that ride ever got converted into such a way !!
Nice design. The ride is however grade ii listed, so i can't see it happening. Perhaps one for The Big One re-tracking!
i said this should happen in the comments of a theme park worldwide vlog, hope it does happen
Why the RMC got Gravity Group Timberliners on it lol. Last time am RMC didn’t have RMC trains was Texas Giant
IF ONLY 😍😍
would love to see an RMC layout for Thundercoaster at Tusenfryd themepark in OSLO ,Norway. That coaster would totaly need an RMC upgrade, after they ruined the coaster after the last rebuild.
I mean, it's happening to Robin Hood, so it's not out of the question.
I doubt the Grand National will have the RMC treatment due to how old it is. Still a pretty cool build though!
It could only be an improvement, the national is so painfully rough you need traction when coming off.
Nice idea if only!!
its a cool idea but i wouldn't like it because i like the traditional roller coaster type stuff they use in the ride and i wouldn't see this happening but its a good concept!
This will get a gwazi treatment bc the structure is pretty bad from all these years just like gwazi
It would be #1 in the world of it was a mobius loop and had onkt half of the inversions. Still amazing.
I will be 100% honest and say that I am not a big fan of RMC coasters, I think it looks ugly with the structure exposed the way it is, I think it would suit somewhere like Thorpe Park Resort, But not in a concept like this at Blackpool Pleasure Beach especially to The Grand National. Think that if they did replace that coaster that it should be replaced with a new storyline coaster and not "The Grand National". I just don't think this type actually in my opinion works, but it would work in a Merlin Attraction. Anyways, cheers for sharing, have disliked the video for the coaster type and idea for Blackpool, but have Subscribed for more videos in the future. 😀👍
This NEEDS to happen
Part of me thinks you could have put a heartline roll at the start
Why not make this a mobius?
If this got the RMC treatment, the other RMC duelling hybrid, twisted collosus at six flags magic mountain would stand no chance against this
That is fantastic this is what Blackpool should be like let's all stay local and make Blackpool great again
Nahhh you don't put inversions in the Grand National.
They need to revamp this coaster and do exactly this to it, before the thing just crumbles into a pile of rust or derails.
Tbh its rusty old accident waiting to happen
How? The wood is replaced every 7 years. It is perfectly safe.
How can it be rusty? It's wooden!
Happy it doesn't go to SFMM, since they already are the only park with 2 high-5 elements ^^
WE NEED A MEGAFOBIA RMC CONCEPT!!!
Why the heck does this have timberliners?
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Nolimits 2 is so damn hard how do u do this?!?!
Great ride unfortunately Grand Nations is law protected and cant not be removed into rmc due to way its built and the history but i would love to ride it rmc but in reality not possible
shod have shown it off ride first adds to the excitement
Pls never do this to the real ride
The real ride is one of my favourites in the world
good but not even possible without first TOTALY demolishing the original coaster
I don't think BPB should RMC the grand national. Maybe if it would have to be taken down otherwise but unless that would happen it should stay the same.
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Those look like gravity group train’s
This is fantastic, however I'd love it if blackpool pleasure beach would RMC the big one, I know they don't usually convert existing steel coasters, but if this was possible it would be the best ride ever made, apart from the first drop the big one is not great, and it's extremely rough now
badmoon rising22 RMC can’t convert steel coasters. The entire point is they convert old woodies. Not steel hypers.
They can work with a steel support structure though (Twisted Twins)
Well it can’t be rmc’d