A Controversially EPIC Finish
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- My raw, immediate reaction to the conclusion of Game 6 between the Dallas Mavericks and the OKC Thunder.
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Who should the Mavericks be hoping for, Nuggets or Timberwolves?
To be completely honest, I don’t think it matters. I think either team beats Dallas in 5 or 6.
@dmulumba26 that's what I am thinking. I think the champion is coming out of the Denver/Minnesota series if everyone stays healthy.
Dallas is getting swept by either team lol
If Murray is hurt DENVER.
3:21 how is this loser an MVP candidate. Please I beg you to make a reaction video to his ft calls. Start a fundraiser for it to see. He's trash
The reason it wasn’t overturned is because PJ still had control of the ball and was in his upward shooting motion when shai made contact with the arm, if the ball had been released prior to the contact it would have been overturned.
Yeah, they addressed this during the game. You can get all ball but if the guy doesn't let go of the ball and then you wack him on the arm before he lets go...it's a foul.
Agreed. I think the additional arm contact after the ball contact, impacted shot quality. I say it was a good call
Idk why people can't understand this.
But Arnett quoted RJ incompletely. Drove the point towards the opposite direction.
Yeh. PJ double clutching instead of shooting immedietly won them the game
We all know how Dallas has historically missed out on great centers. Mavs fans should be thrilled that they drafted Lively, an awesome center with all-star potential, he's for sure been a top 5 rookie this year
He needs so much more work on his offense, he's being left wide open so many times and he doesn't shoot in those moments. At one moment in this series, he tried a not so much contested baby hook with a smaller defender and it was almost an airball. Great rim runner, lob threat and rim protector with a high motor already, but as of now he reminds me a bit of Tyson Chandler. As of now, I see a solid contributor for years to come, but not an All-Star.
@@mentalmadness2192 I agree with everything although he's still a rookie at the end of the day. Give him an offseason to work on his interior game. By the end of his rookie contract we'll have a better idea of what he'll be but even reaching "Tyson Chandler" level would be amazing for the Mavs, guy was a DPOY.
@@mentalmadness2192 -- Agree. Tyson Chanderl was a 10-10 kind of guy with excellent defense. If Lively ends up being 15-10-1-1, I think that's a win.
20-12-2-1.5? That's gravy.
And 25-12-2-1.5, that's heart clogging gravy.
Did people not see that even if there was no foul, the Mavs caught the ball & IMMEDIATELY put it into the basket?
Also, OKC got a FREE EXTRA POSSESSION late in the 4th quarter on an awful out of bounds call!
The Thunder player shot it and it hit the backboard, no Mavs player touching it, and it went out. The refs called it out on the Mavs! Even the announcers pointed out how bad it was, but the Mavs were out of timeouts.
Shai needs to unlock that 40 45 point game in the playoffs gene, sometimes when things aren't working out you need to takeover completely and lead your team to victory
31 point bandit strikes again 😂
@@juanka_3342yup
Thats impossible. He can’t win against the mavs by himself
@@demarkusondatrack5646when your team can’t lock in,it’s time to play hero ball
Look at JB in that close 97-92 win over the 76ers in round 1,HE SCORED 47 OUT OF 97
That’s what we want to see from shai,when his roleplayers can’t hit their shots he needs to do that type of shi
@@juanka_3342Funnily enough, MJs average in elimination games was 31.
The shot didn't get released until the foul occurred which is why there was still a foul. Also, Lively got called for a moving screen which ended Mavs posession, then Dort commited the same moving screen but it was called on Mavs which gave OKC a free throw and the ball instead of the Mavs having another possession in the plays directly before this. There were bad calls on both sides all game but the Mavs definitely got the worse end of the game not being called the same for each team.
I hardly care as I'm in L.A., buuut it looked awfully fishy
As if "blocking a shot" isn't blocking a shot. Claiming that _"the ball has to go somewhere if it's blocked!"_ is a waffle and a plainly stupid "rule". To block is to _impede movement_ first and foremost, and it always has meant that.
THINK, people, ffs.
Don’t forget the out of bounds call off back of backboard they gave back to OKC.
@@shaft9000it was a foul .Lets say it wasnt kyrie got the ball after and made a bucket with no time left for OKC
@@shaft9000the difference is the ball disnt go anywhere when he touched the ball and PJ still went on to shoot but got hit on the arm .This situation proofs the rule to be valid
In other words, it wasn't a phantom call and barely controversial.
Jonny man I've been a long time fan of the channel, I just wanted to mention you sound way more comfortable and energetic on the mic now, love the content man
Thanks man! Its been the difference between the scripted and unscripted stuff. I just read like a robot, but the positive reception to these more relaxed videos is telling me that I need to work on reading with a more relaxed tone. It'll be a work in progress.
If you're a longtime fan how you feel about him ignoring how dirty OKC is? This what you want
@@jonnyarnettWho you got winnning game 7 Jonny?
Johnny, you definitely sound different, like totally different. And keep putting out the entertaining content bless up.
@@jonnyarnetti prefer no script it feels so natural
the controversy over that call would be more impactful if Kyrie didn't have clear putback to give the mavs the lead if there was no whistle
This is very important. Unfortunately for okc, God had already decided they were losing that game
OKC was getting every whistle in that game, so I’m not fussed with the FTs at the end for Dallas
As a Mavs fan, Luka’s complaining is NEVER justified. NEVER. You’re better than every single player on the court. Get back up, make a move, and show them why you’re an MVP candidate.
Kyrie got the outback either way
Watch closely how the ref notices the foul and then doesn’t blow the whistle until he looks over and sees Kyrie is there for the putback. The logic is that it’s better to roll the dice on PJ’s FTs than give Kyrie the 2 automatic points. Daigneault just made a mistake challenging the play. He could’ve called the timeout and in the worst of worst cases, Mavs only would’ve been up by 2 and OKC would’ve had the ball at half court
That's what I have been saying people act like the refs helped the Mavs on that play when they took 2 points away and added more time back to the clock for OKC
And what's pathetic is Jonny ignored this. He's just scared to call out the bruvva worship in hoops. It all started w Jordan
Josh Hart for us Knicks... his injury last couple games was the nail in the coffin for us
Also Jonny, love the “off the cuff” style video. Casual chatting. Not cutting your verbal stumbles. It felt very personable. Love your content. GO MAVS!
The Curse of the Sonics continues. Suck it OKC.
You guys do do lots of hard work editing the games. Appreciate it.
What's crazy to me is that even if the refs swallowed his whistle on the obvious foul kyrie still would've won the Mavs the game with his layup off the block
1:28 look at him under the basket
I always appreciate your more old school/oldhead takes on things to balance out everything I consume
Thank you Jonny for another awesome commentary video!
One the one hand I wand Joker to establish himself and shut the criticism with one more ring, but on the other hand Luka vs Ant is a hell of a battle. So I ll be happy with that also, for the change of scenery
This series has made me a big Lively fan. Hoping the wolves can do it in game 7 tonight and take on the mavs!
Shoutout Shane Baittier for the big 3 Heat he was that guy needed a 3 or a charge he was always there
Loved your enthusiasm on this video dude ❤
I thought when they ruled the play a foul they said it was because the ball wasn't leaving his hands yet before the arm hit happened?
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if I had it mixed up. The telecast was awful, sounded like Richard Jefferson was talking over the ref as he was addressing the replay
Steve javie was talking over the explanation from the ref, it was terrible and I have no idea what either of them said. Production crew really screwed up there.@@jonnyarnett
@spyroninja Ah, you’re right. My wife was like “what did the ref just say?” And I was like “I honestly have no idea…” 🤣
@@jonnyarnettyep Tony brothers and the broadcast team were trying to explain the same thing at THE SAME time😂 and it comes out as a mess
That is what happened (as slo mo showed), and what they said.
It had happened the other way on a Luka shot, where he got the shot off and then there was the contact on his arm (ruled incidental), but after the ball left his hand. So no foul.
But in this case, the shot wasn't off his hand, so the contact to the elbow affected the shot.
Crazy thing is, I just made a Dereck Lively build a week ago on 2k... definitely droppin it tomorrow
There was nothing controversial about that call. They explained the rule clearly and you obviously missed it. When Shai hit PJ in the arm he hasn’t released the shot yet, thus IT IS a foul by the book. Had Shai hit the ball after PJ release it and then got him in the arm then it is deemed incidental. It was all explained in the broadcast and you were clearly not paying attention.
Shout out to OKc. Love their heart and confidence. Shai is that dude 💪 great 1st run as the best player. Happy for luka and kyrie
Mavs 2024 NBA Champs. Lock it in.
Shout out to your great editor!
The final call was correct, and the refs were on the thunder side the entire game plus entire series so OKC cannot complain about refs
The editing here was just fine. No issues whatsoever
Wow what a surprise!!! 🤣 What a game last night!
Respect to Russell, the Editor!
thanks a lot!!!!
6:10 love the laugh 🤣rarely ever hear it.
The western conference finals is going to come down to officiating. The NBA owes the Mavs for 2005.
2006* lol.
I see no problem with the outcome. OKC was the least likely to win it all out of the 4 remaining West teams. They beat the injured pelicans and struggled againts a hobbled Luka. The refs even allowed them to mug Luka the entire series. They should not complain about officiating cause not only was it in their favor, but their best player relies on initiating contact to live on the line.
Why is everyone still shtting on the team that won the series?! Kyrie balances Luka, who still has some maturing to do. I'm proud of how Nico built this team
I prefer OKC to the Mavs but I still thought the refs really hurt the Mavs way more than the Thunder during this game. I feel like the Mavs were clearly the better team in that game, especially in the interior sector. Luka did not have a great game by his standards, the refereeing frustrated him a lot, but found his playmaking later. Kyrie was disappointing most of the game. The Williams did not impress me for OKC too.
Fair call, ball went straight to Kyrie anyway, Mavericks were clearly better the whole series. Thunder should be proud and come back swinging next year
I like this format it sounds more natural
I would even say Rick Fox in the early 2000s was a guy who did the little things for the Lakers in the early 2000s.
Even if they didn’t call the foul, Kyrie got the ball and scored like right as the whistle was being blown so it would have been the same anyway
The refs did everything they could to give this series to OKC. That's how good Dallas is playing.
GPII in our most recent championship season was that guy. Amazing roleplayer and had elite hustle
Kyrie said that Luka complained alot less last game and this game. I think I'll take his literal co-star word over yours.
It's a foul because pj didn't release the ball. The rule book says if pj would have released the ball before contact with the arm, it wouldn't have been a foul but because he still had the ball in his hand when there was contact with his arm its a foul
It's a team effort and the Mavs are working brilliantly as a team right now
everyone's been counting us out even the playoffs started and we always proving them wrong, so yeah, keep counting us out, we love to see it
And to be honest, it’s only gonna end up giving Luka and Kyrie more credit to their legacy if they’re considered underdogs
Im just glad Dallas shut up the media...everyone was talking about Kyrie not mixing well with Luka..also that his former teammates got better teams (Durant Suns and Harden Clippers)..then everyone counting them out against the super stacked Clippers and the young OKC...now they're in the West Finals😂
I've been saying this all season and especially through the playoffs, SGA literally refuses to drop more than 32 points XD. He always gets there, but he never exceeds it which is so crazy to me.
As a Thunder, I’m unbothered by the foul. We achieved more than most people expected us too, like yes could’ve went further but it’s alright. Next year is the beginning of this dynasty, Championship 2025
dallas wins title. luka has the team he need. stays healthy. i look forward to wcf opponent cuz it will be great
Jonny you need to make a completely separate video how OKC is manufactured team. They foul on d and get all the calls on offense. OKC tried to zaza Luka all series. Sga is the most embarrassing "star"ever. They stopped reffing like that for everyone but him and JB
Call all these big RUclipsrs out because none of them ever mention how the refs always kill Dallas momentum with bs calls or letting Dort have 15 fouls a game
That call did not decide the game because if the whistle hadn’t been blown, Kyrie caught the errant shot and put it back in with no one there to challenge him so the Mavericks win with a layup at the buzzer.
I would love to watch an entire NBA without players throwing their hands in the air and eyeballing the refs. Grown men acting like children is hard to watch. However, these younger crews like Okc and Minnesota are playing the game the right way. Same with Denver and a few others. Great to see. I feel like we all got fooled by Durant, Westbrook, LeBron, Harden - players that just can't commit to playing both ends or team ball.
Luka Nicknameless...ever-whining his way to "victory"
_(srry kids, but Magic and Legend were already taken decades before you were born)_
Salty huh?
In slow motion, even before the contact with the arm, you see SGA's hand contact Washington's right pinky. Initial contact was still ball imo... and I don't know the rules enough to know if that changes anything.
OKC will win a bundle of championships over the next 10 years. Dallas were lucky but if there was no foul called Kyrie had it in with 2.0 left anyway.
If Lively develops some mid-range jump shoot, especially in the paint, he would be very dangerous.
2:38 I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST GIVE OKC THAT PHANTOM FOUL CALL BS LMAO. Look at all Shay ft calls and dort hacking
The following action was a two pointer for Mavs. If they have overturned the foul call, then they should call it a block which turns into a pass that leads to two points scored afterwards. I guess 🤔
This style of video is perfect for these modern day coverage videos, with the classic style for the basketball history videos.
I’m not a fan of either team, but how is that not a foul? That looks so obvious to me. Anyway, good analysis, man.
As a Mavs fan Luka complain far to much, and is unbearable to watch at times what a petulant whiny child he can be. Lively is amazing and so glad they drafted him (tanking does work sometimes), and now that they are facing the T'Wolves I think the Wolves win in 5......................6 at most.
Derek Jones Jr hit some big 3s when Dallas were chasing, it'd be nice if he got some love.
Would Kyrie getting the putback count if the foul was overturned? why was there no mention of that?
Yeah, but if you watch it back, the whistle came a little bit before that, which is why some OKC players stopped. If that whistle doesn’t happen, Kyrie might not have that easy layup
He gets possession tho. He just wants to ignore OKC being manufactured
"If you don't believe, you shouldn't be here."luka
bruh, that rule is for people going to the ring holding the ball with both hand, not for somebody taking a 3 and touch the ball and after touch his shooting hand, take his landing spot or even bumb into him still a foul
As a Bulls fan who witnessed that infamous game, I'm not haunted by that call, but by the fact that so many people don't want to call out that these phantom fouls or no calls happen when NY or LA are involved and it's not greed, it's ethnocentrism. Shaq had the balls to start to say it to Adam Lefcoe, but pivoted to "the media" which is still a kind of euphemism for "you people".
Luka’s shooting percentage was crazy high.
Shai had a monstrous series I'm excited to see him hit his peak now that he has some experience
I think Dallas has exceeded expectations but needs like one or two more pieces to be a championship team. T-Wolves just seem to be a better put-together team rn.
I’m a fan of 3 teams, the Cavs Nets and Wolves (I only root for the Mavs because of Kyrie and so grateful Joe Tsai was stupid enough to send him there).
For the Cavs, it was Ricky Rubio before the injury man.
For the Nets, it was Bruce Brown, I still love him.
For the Wolves, it was Jimmy Butler and after him it’s basically everyone 😂
Lively impressed me A LOT. I did not know he cpuld be so impactful. Holmgren paled in comparison.
I got Denver winning in a very tight game tonight. It really could go either way.
I predicted the Nuggets to beat the Timberwolves and win the championship over on my youtube channel, so I hope they win, but it really doesn't matter too much to me.
I think whoever wins tonight's game will win the championship, so it'll be a good one for sure.
Lively, Gafford, Jones, Washington... Mavs have great role players. Whoever they play its gonna be a war. Cant wait
I agree with you on the complaining problem Luka has but the last two games he really dialled that back especially game 5 in OKC. Head down focused on playing. My issue is that I kinda get why he is constantly complaining. I mean Dort was all but wrestling him on almost every possession, grabbing, tripping, shoving, etc. just to then flop at EVERY opportunity he has on both defense and offense if there is minimal resistence/contact by a Mavs player. Utterly disgraceful. Glad that didn't work out for him.
3:10 When I watched video of it in slow motion, before hearing the announcers, I was thinking it was easily a foul. Shai hit his pinky on one side and pulled down his arm on the other side before Washington even released the shot. I think it was the correct call.
Rodman was that guy for me. Fav player other than Jordan
As a Mavs fan I don't so much worry about the Wolves defenders. Luka doesn't struggle with lengthy guys. It's the stockier guys like Dort that can pound on him physically
Dort was playing football the whole series. Flopping and falling all over the place.
as an OKC fan I just dont think shai shouldve closed out that hard, I honestly don't think he would've made it if he just had a normal contest
Even if it wasn’t a foul Kai got the offensive board and immediately put it in. OKC would’ve lost anyway LOL
Fell asleep before the halftime of this game, but am okay with it as tonight's is more important. Rooting for Nuggets, but expecting the winner to go all the way to the title. And I agree that Dallas should be praying for a Denver series if they hope to go beyond the Conference Finals.
Also, there's an alternate timeline where Dallas doesn't trade cason Wallace and bertans to OKC for lively and TPE. I firmly believe in that timeline OKC rolls all the way to the title. Chet 4 lively 5? Sheesh.
Why would that play(faul) at the end be series deciding? Take faul away, and you still get a basket from Kyrie with less time on the clock...
The whole game was officiated so badly, mostly against Mavs... But great game averall 👌👌
Isaac Okoro is MY GUY, and he is one reliable outside shot away from making the Cavs real contenders
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I'll say this as a Mavs fan when it comes to Luka talking to the refs.
I'm half and half.
Yeah, Luka should just shut up and focus on the game because the refs aren't going to help. If anything, they'll probably make it worse for annoying them so much.
But i get why Luka gets frustrated because he clearly gets hacked so much, idk if it's because he's bigger he's supposed to just take the hits, but like, cmon refs be fair!
Lu Dort was literally at times going at Luka knees like a linebacker, and that wasn't brought up randomly because he literally was playing like one. There's another video where Dort is clearly kicking up his leg between Lively Knees, which imo only plausible reason as for why he did that is he tried trip Luka to screw up the possession.
Regardless of who the players are, that's still a reckless play because why are you kicking your leg in between someone's knees???
That's dangerous for athletes because knee injuries can cost them their entire careers
I say, you can get frustrated with Luka's complaining, but you can't get mad at it because it's justified.
Refs have to let guys play. Unless they're blatant fouls or playing football out there, let them play in those moments
As a young Knick fan it is Josh Hart
As a Dallas Fan, I WAS hoping for Denver, both because they‘re far more likable, and because I fear for Luka‘s health with the tough-to-borderline dirty defense of the Wolves.
Other than the Wolves being a really strong team with a lot of match-up problems, the question on my mind is IF the 50-60% of Luka Doncic we‘re seeing right now are going to be enough. If he were at 90-100%, I‘d feel very confident, but he‘s just not and is playing so hobbled and getting into his head that this may just be a little too much.
That being said: Minnesota may have the best defense, but right now, Dallas is right up with them and i don‘t think they‘ve experienced anything close to that from Denver, either. We‘ll see what happens. Either way, best playoffs in many many many years.
But kyrie made the putback anyways……
True, but the whistle came slightly before that, which I think is why some OKC players stopped action.
@@jonnyarnett you can see Chet still tryna to contest the layup and the foul was called basically by the time Kyrie was already jumping I doubt the whistle would’ve changed the fact Kyrie made the put back
@universalplayz7496 Yeah, but Williams also had a shot, and he definitely stopped once he heard the whistle. At the very least, If I was OKC, that would have been my argument to the Kyrie layup.
@@jonnyarnettin my view Kyrie already got inside positioning and the only obstacle between him getting that put back or not was Chet who was still playing
they def got that last call right. i think OKC has a case if it was a clean block and follow through contact but nah
The Mavericks weren't "rattled" by Dort and em, Luka had 3 triple doubles in a row to close out the series. In addition, the Thunder had the refs to their advantage for the series, right before the foul on PJ we had a phantom offensive foul on DLive and the ball clearly went out of bounds off the Thunder and it was still given back to them. You don't know ball
worst of all......he ABSOLUTELY fouled him in that shot tho!!!!
There is nothing controversial about that call . 100% a foul
Lively so clearly has a winners mentality. He’s so young and already knows what his role and place is on this team and they have rewarded him for it, rightfully. If he continues like this and they pay him accordingly we’re looking at a generational talent
Edit: Minnesota has the answer to every trick Dallas has and we didnt win against them at all in the regular season, Jokic and Luka going head to head would be talked about for years
hoping for denver. mcdaniels and edwards will hound luka
Definitely keep up the unscripted vids! The real you comes out!
I got Timberwolves! Its been a while since I've been excited about a team other than teh Lakers but I love this team, their energy, Anthony Edwards is an amazing young leader, I love how he plays, he leads, I hope they make it to the Finals and I think they have a real shot if the refs let them defend !
Everyone thought the Kings were going places. Look how that went.
You got to make most of the opportunities.
If he still got the shot off, swallow the whistle ref.
What happened to those days where the refs didn't bail players out in the last minute of the game?
That deep OKC team is going to want to get paid. They're all young. The reason the Warriors were able to do what that they did was that team friendly deal Steph had. They may find themselves in a Harden situation again.
Can’t say swallow the whistle when shai literally makes a living off those fouls and the fact they never call his push off