Luka and Kyrie PROVED their Doubters WRONG!
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- Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2024
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Are they the Most talented backcourt EVER??
lowkey yea
Stop it plz
@@littyagain9402reactionary asf man so sad
What about MJ and BJ or Pax or Kerr or Harper?
The most OFFENSIVELY talented backcourt ever in terms of pure talent / skill level.
Both are capable of running championship-level offense as the #1 option with both scoring AND facilitating. Both are top-tier closers.
No other backcourts meet that criteria. (Maybe Frazier and Monroe?) Steph & Klay / Zeke & Dumars are close, but Klay and Dumars are natural #2 options with limitations as facilitators.
If you bring defense into consideration, it's a slightly different discussion, but still, these two are special.
EDIT: LOL I should watch the video all the way through before commenting... just listened to you say everything I was thinking. Great stuff Jonny.
That smile by Luka when Kyrie hugged him 🫂
Best interracial love story since a long time ❤ Crazy to see Kyrie that relaxed and happy in Dallas..., no shenanigans like in Brooklyn, no racism blaming like in Boston.
@@Max.Hartmann it’s the ‘White Men Can’t Jump’ 2024 reboot
@@Starias5 👍👍🤙
The fact that people tried to restart the "Edwards is MJ's son" narritive, again, even after the relatively poor performence in game 7 against Denver as well as the first 3 games against Dallas, all because he had one half decent performance in game 4 really puzzled me. People just need to stop calling people the next MJ all together, it has never been beneficial to a young star to compare them to the GOAT, you're just setting him up for failure.
Yeah, let the dude carve out his own legacy if he's capable of it.
I mean MJ himself wasnt MJ at 22 either.
People getting all offended by it is the weirdest thing of it all I think. It wasn't like people were even saying he was MJ or as good as MJ. It's just that he reminded them of him. But the Internet weirdo's like always takes it to the extreme.
agreed let these players grow in there careers
Now he joins his brother Booker as Luka's son
Michael Jordan was always the best player on the floor, even when his teams were losing & got swept. Ant wasn't close to being the best player on the floor in this series.
I think the comparison to D-Wade is much more accurate. Especially in terms of play style and potential.
@LooseBoosey You're saying Ant is zesty?? 🤔
@@howardmighty6764 playstyle but dwade been strange recently
Why are you getting so defensive over a comparison? You don’t even know MJ. MJ glazers are just something else man
@@howardmighty6764 😂 ant would definitely not turn his son into a freak 😂
I want to see the Mavs win for Lively to get a ring, not just Luka and Kyrie
The story of his mother passing away is heart breaking, and he has been using that as motivation to win a championship. He will win a championship for his mom, and I know she’ll be proud.
The Mavs were 5-1 against the Timberwolves this season with both Luka and Kyrie playing.
Im a wolves fan and this series was rough. Having said that, I am rooting for Dallas. I want Luka and Kyrie to win a ring together. Also, I wouldn’t mind trading KAT. He has dumb fouls and if his shot isn’t landing he is useless.
You’re a classy fan. I saw soo many bandwagons trashtalk the mavs after their legit wins
You're a classy fan, this was nice to read after seeing Wolves fans boo Luka receiving his trophy last night. And yeah KAT is a dumbass. He plays UFC not basketball. And flops just as much as anyone else out there.
classiest wolves fan I've seen amongst multiple social media platforms. respect to you
@@Darkliqht @xfanatick7972 Appreciate it. Im too old to get butthurt about MN losing in the playoffs, its not the first time. Excited to see what this team can do next year. Cheers fellas
I've been saying that if Kat's shots aren't falling, he's not impacting the game. Naz is better. Trade him while his value is still high. He will get exposed if he doesn't play better. Doubt he will since he's been in the league for a long time now and it's hard to change. Butler said he ain't that guy and he knows it.
I feel like Boston is the better team, but I do trust Luka and Kyrie way more than I am willing to trust Brown and especially Tatum. Brown has been clutch for Boston in recent years when it mattered. Much more so than Tatum I feel. I just dont see that being enough against Kyrie and Luka. Maybe Tatum proves me wrong this time. I dont trust it until I see it though. X Factor is obviously KP coming back for Boston. That changes things drastically imo.
This is a great take. Tatum has to be on form the whole way for boston to have a chance. One of the reasons they lost their last finals against gsw was because tatum was so poor that series. Hope he does step it up this time.
Happy for luka and proud of Ant. Not turning on Ant like these new age fickle ass fans lol
Again, he's 22... He's gonna be scary. We shouldn't immediately crown him as the air apparent, but we also shouldn't kill em for failing at an age where almost no legend was winning yet.
@@jonnyarnett facts
Fr, I hate social media bro, if he wins he’s crowned as the next Jesus Christ, and when he loses they immediately start calling him trash and just beating him down
@@jonnyarnettAgreed Jonny! You gave a logical assessment of Ant, unlike the mainstream media. Luka and Kyrie were the two best players on the floor all series. The media does too much in both directions on these players of in these leagues. Either you're "GOAT" status or a "bust" or failure. It's ridiculous. This is why I love your channel.
@@Comicedits39social media has ruined basketball somewhat, you trash talk when you’re winning they say “you only talk when your up”, you talk when your losing they say “why you talking when your losing”.🤦♂️😂
The real Antman to jordan/kobe comparison should start when he is 26-28
Which is around their most historic seasons (89 jordan and 06 kobe)
Honestly, it shouldn't even start because besides some highlight dunks, the overall style of play isn't comparable. No matter what the age. I watched ANT break free last night, drive down the lane and in a situation where Jordan and Kobe, at any age in the NBA, would have gone straight to the bucket to score or draw a foul, he kicked it out. ANT does that in situations where Jordan and Kobe would only kick out on a double team, and neither Jordan or Kobe would be creating space in ISO to shoot a step back 3. The comparison should never have happened to begin with. Honestly, 99 percent of comparison's never should because they end up turning the younger player into a disappointment somehow. The only time that I've seen a player compared to another player and it came close was Kobe and MJ. People should really just stop it and let ANT be ANT. He's not the next MJ or the next Kobe, and he doesn't need to be. He's exciting being ANT.
@@Davivd2 I agree with your analysis. The kick outs are extremely frustrating. Winners like Jordan and Kobe want the ball in those situations.
89??? that wasnt JORDAN historic season..STOP talking about baskebtall...
JORDAN was averaging 28 PPG in his rookie season has the star of the team.
ANT his averaging 25 ppg in a ERA that is basically the same as 20 PPG as the 3rd most important player on his team.
FINLEY and STACKHOUSE are better than ANT..1st ANT has to pass them
This'll probably turn into a battle of the stars with some heroics peppered in from key roleplayers kind of series. I just dont see tatum and brown beating doncic and irving.
Man this series is going to be good! For me is very difficult, cause I have been a Celtics fan since 86 (I was only 6 years old then) but I also love to watch Luka play (he has always reminded me of Bird for some reason). So, on one hand I want the Celtics to win it all, but I think I would be less mad if they lose to Luka and the Mavs.
I'm way more excited for this final than last year's, because it was pretty much obvious that Miami had nothing to deal with Jokic
I really didn’t like how the media set up players for failure by comparing them to players like MJ. Now a bunch of fans is going to unnecessarily hate on Ant, but yeah Kyrie and Luka have proven everyone wrong and not a single person had them getting past the 2nd.
I think a big difference with Luka and Ant is that Luka has mastered controlling the offense and can create space for himself or anyone else on his team.
Edwards can create his own space and seems like he got better at making plays for others, but the Wolves seem to have no game plan or know how to play off the ball.
Derrick Lively is the Next Wilt Chamberlain, the best two way player in the game, the best American player and the face of the NBA.
Yeah, just remove 30 ppg and 20 rpg from Wilt and their rookie seasons are almost identical.
Lol
If the Mavs win, they will have defeated 3 of the 4 teams this season that aply for the Phil Jackson rule (a championship team needs to win 40 before losing 20) in the Thunder, Wolves and Celtics. It would be one of the best runs ever.
Gotta love Luca cussing out Snoop Dogg like that 😂. He was a rabid dog last night. And that knock on Luca by KAT was just a flesh wound.
Mav’s in 7.
You and me both. Go Mavericks!
Have a great Friday 👍😃
Welcome, honorary Dallas fan!
Thanks Jonny!
Rooting for Mavs. Concerned about Celtics though. Super rested in comparison.
Me too actually I am lakers fan as well but I genuinely like kyrie and Luka especially ky😊
I’ll disagree with you Jonny. This game was BEAUTIFUL. A masterpiece by Luka and Kyrie
Johnny, the Lakers are looking to hire a head coach. I believe you are the man for the job! Please help the Lakers!
Lmao, I appreciate it! Seems like they're obsessed with the idea of taking Redick and making him the next Pat Riley. I'll take him if he does a great job!!... but he's a real unproven wildcard imo.
@@jonnyarnettThe next Pat Riley lmao. Pat Riley actually has guts, Redick is a sniveling suckup. I couldn't think of two more opposite personalities.
@@jonnyarnett I remember one of the videos you made about JJ Redick where you said "By that same logic where I can't give a valid opinion on NBA players because I never was one - JJ Redick can't give a valid opinion on NBA superstars because he never was one." One of my all-time favorite lines from you.
Lively gonna have like 18 concussions per year like Wes welker
Lmao
As a Laker fan in my youth and as a Heat fan now, for their entire existence, I don't like Boston.
But also, I am just really excited to see Luka do his thing. That first quarter was Luka Legend material, just stunning. And Kyrie is ignitable and spectacular in his own way.
So there are several reasons I hope the Mavs take the trophy. And at a +280 or whatever, I just might make a bet on them.
The moment Denver was out Dallas become my favorite for championship
Man I deadass repressed the memory of Celtic Kyrie or something until you pointed it out lmao
I think it’s fair for Luka to have been subbed in . It’s enough time to lose the lead or get within single digits quick. He was just ensuring it’s closed out, better to put him in for like 3-4 more minutes than a whole nother game or two
I wish them healthy 7 games battle, with double overtime buzzer beater ending just for fun for us!
Offensively : Yes
All-around : Debatable
Boston Celtics robotic team (only has threes in playbook) vs Battle hardened Dallas Mavericks. Take them out. Luka
Lol we’ve heard the “battle-hardened” story before 😂. Then the so called battle hardened team goes ahead and loses in the final. *2022* finals comes to mind.
Anyways, I just hope the final is more interesting.
Happy for Luka and Kyrie, and the entire Mavs. Finally back in the Finals! Luka adopting all these kids are making Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie jealous. Welcome to the family Ant, Rudy and Kat.
Anyone notice Luka's face once the Mavs won? Stone. No celebration. He's on a mission.
In terms of comebacks in the Playoffs, as far as I know, in the 1st round of 2012 playoffs Game 1, the Clippers cameback from 71-95 deficit in the 4th with 8:01 remaining.
One of the best comebacks in the playoff history.
Im taking the mavs in 6 because everyone except me be doubtful about them all post season
Minnesota won one game it looked like they were happy with not being swept, that was insane. The Mavs on the other hand were *really* hungry, they didn't wanna leave *anything* to chance in that fifth game and it clear very early on how this game is gonna end. I really hope they can go all the way. As a European the Mavs are always a soft-spot for me because of Dirk and now Luka, especially since they are just humble good guys who are great at playing basketball.
most talented backcourt ever: meadowlark lemon (the goat) and curly neal.
The thing to watch in the finals is who Luka is going to guard. How Luka is going to react playing both ends of the court. Luka didn't have to do anything special on defense against the Wolves. Against Boston he's going to have to guard either Jalen Brown or Jayson Tatum. Those guys are going to make him work on Defense. Even Kyrie is going to have to do more work on the defensive end guarding Jrue Holiday. Will Luka and Kyrie be able to put out all time great iso performances for 4 out of 7 games, while having to guard serious offensive threats? The answer to that question is the key to the series because Dallas doesn't have much to lean on offensively other than "give the ball to Luka and Kyrie and get out of the way". Also, it's not only a homecoming for Kyrie to Boston. Kristaps Porzingas is coming back to Dallas after being traded away because Luka wanted him gone. If Porzingas is healthy, he can be an X factor and he was great during the regular season.
I get where ur coming from abt subbing Luka out in the 4th but they were at home and could’ve went on a run
Yeah and they had just started a little run, that's what prompted him to come in. And it looked more like a Luka thing. Like he probably just jumped up and said put me in. Maybe he's at the level where he can override the coach but idk for sure. Either way it was an interesting point and I'm glad he brought it up
Don't blame the coach, i would have done the same. Blowing a 25 lead in 7 minutes ? We've seen crazier happen. Let's put Luka in to make sure there is no game 6 and hope he can rest and heal a bit more. No chance those knees look good when you remove all that bandage. what is it a hole ? Bleeding each game since semifinals 😮
Maybe Luka and Kyrie were the Micheal Jordans we made along the wat
the finals is going to be toxic...and I'm here for it
Rudy hitting that fade away is the reason they made it that far too its sad that he couldnt do it again
I'm a Celtics fan but I'm also a Luka fan. I don't like how things went with Kyrie in Boston, but I respect his game, and the conviction in his beliefs. This series might break me. Can't everybody win?
Man we have lost so many leads that we have PTSD
Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars are the best backcourt. They both have a Finals MVP which means they showed they both could take over in the Finals. Kyrie doesn't have a Finals MVP but he kinda showed that capability in 2016. Luka is yet to be determined.
I hope you do a vid on what the wolves could do to improve.
Its a playoff game in 7min in todays NBA you can lose 23 point lead like that
Clutch: Boston biggest weakness and Mavs biggest strength.
Luca out scored the whole Timberwolves team in the first quarter
Luka and Kyrie were up on the Wolves at halftime 😂
I would be even less objective, since I'm a Mavs fan 😂. I got the Mavs winning in 6. Also, if it gets to a 7th game, the Celtics are toast.
I want dallas to win soooo bad! I want Luca to get his First!! he really deserves it!!! He has busted his mind body and ass off!
I think this may be the best CLOSING backcourt duo ever. I would absolutely take a duo of Luka and Kyrie over duos like Steph and Klay, Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars, or Chris Paul and James Harden to close out a tight game. They may lack defensive ability but the offensive creation 100% makes up for it. Oh and by the way… Mavs in 6.
😂 We are finally here Jhonny are you again going against Dallas or are we winning the finals man loving basketball this year
I want to propose a new rule.
If a player is Top 3 in MVP voting and did not win, then they become the best player in the playoffs ( Conf MVP + Finals MVP ).
That player should have additional "points" for next seasons MVP voting with this in mind.
You can tell me how this is a regular season award all you want. But if that player dips in the playoffs.
It just doesnt sit RIGHT with you. You would call them fraudulent and rightfully so.
rooting for Dallas, puting my money on Boston
That Wolves fanbase also booed Luka when he got the CF MVP and chanted stupid nonsense during the game...
Yup true class!
We'll see what happens in the Finals, I hope we get to see a great battle, those series fell a bit flat. Both teams look pretty good, so who knows!
I agree I LITERALLY don’t understand why not only Luka but the starters were still in the game in the 4th.
They were arguably being too cautious against a late Wolves run. The last thing you wanna do is let Ant and KAT think they can actually win it
Offense and shooting are so good that a 20 point lead isn’t safe until the last few minutes
Celtics had the same advantage two years ago against gsw. Best defence in the league with JT and JB balling out against (non injured east teams). Boston always had one problem: their superstars couldn’t match the opponents superstar. Curry killed them and I don’t see why both Luka AND Kyrie can’t do it. Nevertheless Boston is legit although not battle tested and with the addition of KP they have a advanced version of the OKC offense imo. The difference is that sga is better than Tatum but brown is better than Williams
Yeah but that Boston team didn't have Porzingis or Jrue. DWhite also wasn't nearly the player he is now. I still think the Mavs might win though.
Can’t wait to watch the Los Angeles Mavs beat those frauds in the east
Lol, LETS GO!! 🤣🤣
😂😂😂 Those frauds are literally raping your puny team from west.
If Dallas wins the finals, will it be more impressive than the 2011 run?
Maybe
I'd say it's not quite as good, though the similarities are there.
I think the Finals will be quite interesting. Injuries will play a big role for sure. I like Luka and Kyrie better than Tatum and Brown, but the rest of the Celtics team is better and more experienced than what the Mavs can muster, especially if Porzingis returns. Tough to call, but I think it the Jrue-Kyrie matchup will be the key. If Kyrie gets slowed down, or God forbid, rattled, Boston will have the series in the bag. Otherwise it will be very competitive. I expect either a quick Boston takeover or a ground-out Dallas victory.
Luka got subbed back in because Minnesota hadn’t taken their players out yet. You leave your dogs in until they take theirs out. That’s an unwritten rule.
I get that, but it’s a stupid ass rule, and we all would be killing Kidd now if Luka had been seriously hurt by KAT.
@@jonnyarnett I'm with you.I couldn't believe he was still in and almost gets knocked out
this will be a battle on who really rubbed up on kobe better, kyrie or tatum. who really has the mamba mentality? so far kyrie has already shown that, but we'll see. im alsor rooting for dallas.
Mavs in 6
The only backcourts that can challenge are Harden CP3, and Steph and Klay
I guess the Luka Dončić comparisons to Larry Bird were correct and the Anthony Edwards comparisons to Michael Jordan were right as well
lol as a lakers fan I agree I’m gonna become the biggest Mavericks fan temporarily for this finals series I do not want the Celtics getting ring 18
Minnesota just gotta run it back maybe let Gobert develop post moves and let the role players familiarize their plays and all
Gobert is who he is at this point in his career. He is basically the same as Daniel Gafford, just slightly better defending the post.
Kyrie & Steph should've been the rivalry the league pushed instead of Steph & LeBron. LeBron's rivals are & KD, Kawhi & Giannis (Luka would've been a great rival, but they're at different spots of their careers). Also, I want Kyrie & Jason Kidd to win & I want this Boston team to be solidified as a great team. Hopefully, it'll go 7 games & I'll pick who I want to see win more in game 7.
Just imagine those championship warriors teams if they only had a guy like mcdaniels instead of KD
I agree wtf, have we not learned from Derek rose? I mean come on.. if we are up by even like 12 with 5 mins left, I would take Luka out and just make sure the other team doesn't make a run. No need to risk it!
Broo please whats the name of the intro song?
Boston won both regular season games against Dallas (all stars were healthy and played large minutes). Boston had a 23-7 record against the West, whereas Dallas had a 19-11 record against the East. Boston really looks like the favorite in this series but we'll see if Luka and Kyrie's magic can turn the tables.
Yeah, those games aren't the indicators that Boston Fans think they are. Both Games were before this current rotation was sorted out.
Neither Gafford nor DJJ played significant mins (7 & and 6, respectively), in the game after the trade deadline. DJJ is a far better defender than Hardaway ever was, while giving similar offensive production. Gafford is a better true center, allowing Maxi to defend the 4 vs being a Small ball center. Also Lively has grown alot since then too.
Also Luka and Kyrie have shown they are decent defenders in their own right. While yes they are never going to be elite, Dallas has created a defensive system that plays to their strengths.
It's going to be a good series, likely 7 games, with each team winning aleast one road game. I could see the individual games going either way, with the role players being the determining factors. If PJ and DJJ are hitting their 3s, while limiting Tatum and Brown Dallas will win. If not, Luka and Kyrie I don't think are good enough on their own to beat Boston more than once or twice.
@@aaroneisenman6873 Great analysis!
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Thanks!
Luka came back from 9 down in 33sec Ok it was a regular season game and it is Luka but still 7min is a long time remeber Mavs 2nd quarter against Clipers in game 4 where they scored only 6 points Amd Clipers went up by 31 in minutes and than dallas comed back in 31points in like 8 minutes so it can happen
Mavs are the best story in sports right now
As much as i want to see us get banner 18 i think we would have against any other team just not the mavs dallas in 6
If its a even number games (4&6) Mavs win..if its odd number games (5&7) Celtics win...either way..great matchup
Doncic wanted to stay in, so he did. Kidd is a players coach imo, he's been on the finals runs with the nets and the Mavs, he gets it. Keep in mind all other games came down to the wire. I feel like Kobe woulda done the same thing and stayed in.
Whenever I root for a team in the playoffs, they end up losing so BOSTON IN 6
The Mavericks Fanbase thanks you for your sacrifice.
If the dallas would win the championship, jason kidd would be the only player and coach to win a championship on the same team..
Well, if we're talking purely talent, I think they're the second most talented backcourt of all time by a very thin margin, behind James Harden and Kyrie Irving. Insanely, The Mavs are somehow the better of those two teams.
as a celts fan i obviously want the celts but as a luca fan.. and my disgust for how he is treated I hope he makes it a 7 game series.
I like tatum but I dont believe he is in lukas league... I would trade anyone to get luka to Boston... if luka wins or takes it to 7 he will win the MVP next yr as a make up if he is in the top 3.
If porzingas plays there is zero reason why the celts should lose.. they just have way too much firepower... 3 legit scorers with a couple others that can get theirs as well... better d... so if luka beats that team then it would be hard not to put him at the top of the league... and if the celts lose with all these advantages then as good as tatum is it will kill his claim for being top 5... now if games are close and brown and tatum can out clutch luka and kyrie.. that would do wonders for them... luka is basically in a no lose situation... he wasn't supposed to get past OKC let alone Minnesota...
as far as narratives you talked about kyrie going back to boston but you completely forgot porzingas going back to Dallas.
equally worth noting....
It’s funny that we Kyrie Irving going if against his old team in the finals. This will be of the greatest rivalry in 2020’s
"Listen I don't care what Reggie Miller or Stan Van Gundy say about Minnesota keeping their starters in, show me one playoff game where a team came back from a 23 point deficit with 3 minutes left in the game, have some damn confidence in your other guys...."
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Kyrie and step is pretty much equals
They have pros and cons but skill but u cant deny how close they are to each other
So it is about luka and klay
Which easy to see who is way better
Mavs in 7
We are in the Luka era my friends
I am rooting for the Mavs because I love Luka. And although Kyrie isn't so friendly towards some Jewish issues or Israel, I find him very intelligent and likeable, and a great player. But. I have no idea who will win this. It will be an epic matchup. I think they're better than when they lost last year (or the year before), but the Mavs played better than the Nuggets did against Minnesota. So who knows. I know I am looking forward to it. I like the Celtics. Just to me they don't excite me like the Mavs. Luka to me has things even Jokic can't do and I thought he was the MVP. Edwards is great but he's not Jordan. Don't even think he's Kobe.
Wow. Almost forgot it was Greeny with that BS take. We gotta start grilling him more often. Random question. Does the hate for the Dallas Cowboys kinda rub off to hating any other Dallas franchise? Idk why it seens that way to me.. Watch Mavs win the Chip & all the media will talk about is "What will Boston do now? How did Tatum let them lose?" type shit...
wolves fans are excused for this one but next time your team doesn't turn up at all in an elimination game at home you must boo them to set the record straight. it isn't malicious, it's a standard-bearer
Michael Jordan by himself is the best two man backcourt in the history of the NBA.
Only rudy have good +/- in th series from entire wolves
Ant and KAT did not have good games, they started scoring well in the 2nd half when they were down by like 36, literal garbage time points, it means absolutely nothing.
When their team was being dismantled in the first 2 quarters they were nowhere to be found.
EDIT: classy display by Twolves fans? The ones that booed Luka when he was presented his WCF MVP? Both the fans and Ant himself are as unclassy as it gets, trash talking bums who dont back it up or shake hands in Ants case...
Mavericks win in, I guess 6