Everything That Went Wrong With The OKC Thunder
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2024
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I feel like half the problem with Giddey is the lost confidence, like compare giddey to last year and he was more aggressive and happy to have the ball in his hands, but after his controversy its like he doesn't want people to notice him anymore and he's just eager to pass the ball away even if he's got a chance to score on his own
i know but i feel so bad for him like it wasn’t even true but he let it get to him. understandable but still. feel bad for the guy
You can tell his mental health has gone downhill I remember bro used to posting on TikTok every week and he just seemed so much more happy and energetic than he is currently
You crazy.....it was beyond true, and the evidence was damning. The parents just didn't want to pursue anything.@hi9913
That's part of it but the bigger problem is he can't shoot and his drive & pass game doesn't work if the jumper isn't respected.
@@BigWillieDillie Do you even know what happened?
Sounds like trading Giddey and getting a real center and moving Chet to PF is the fix
That’s about the hardest thing to get, Just ask the warriors they’ve been trying to get a center since forever.
Their whole offense is predicated on going 5-out. That's why their drive and kick game works so well. I wouldn't want to sacrifice that. Why not get a 4 who can help you with size and rebounding and keep Chet at the 5?
Also, if you move Chet away from the 5, you're taking away his rim protection.
Isaiah Hartenstein is a free agent this off season think he could be a starting 5 for okc???
@bebehillz You could go with him or someone like Zach Eddy in the draft.
@@lamchunting856Dallas got 2 of them. No, you cant have one
I dunno about OKC getting dismantled, but Chet being 7'1" and only getting 3 boards (one from PJ's intentional FT miss) is beyond me. Dude needs to bulk up or OKC needs to find a true Center.
He got manhandled by Lively lmao OKC needs a true C and push Chet at 4 as he always in the outside
That's why Wemby is better
Was gonna say. The way he described it sounded like OKC had a disappointing performance but it felt like Dallas had no business beating them in this series at ALL. I'm a big dallas fan but I had already accepted for the worst outcome, didn't expect a series win at all
Ayo Hartenstein from new york is becoming a free agent this season and new york DONT own his bird rights... think they could pull him?
@@notcool4320thought this was obvious, were people suggesting otherwise? 😂
I don't even blame Chet for this but he sometimes forget he's a seven footer. The amount of times he was bothered by Gafford when he's taking a shot at the rim is mind boggling
Chet is not a big. He’s a tall. lol
even kyrie standing still (almost half is size) bothered him so much he did an awkward fadeaway fastbreak in game 3
@@jim-2194 goes to show that experience is really a deciding factor in decision making
It's about experience!
Gafford is also a big man and is known for his defense so it shouldn't be that surprising that Chet couldn't score inside.
What is surprising is that OKC didn't use Chet's shooting skills to pull Gafford and Lively out of the paint so it would be easier for SGA, JWill and Giddey to score inside.
The difference between Luka and Shai is that Luka is a passing savant. Shai is great is creating his own shots. But Luka can see cracks in opposing team's defense. He will sneak a bounce pass that can lead to a shot or swing pass to open man. Luka can throw lob pass from anywhere and any angles.
Facts but they’re super different players. Shai is the best iso scorer in the league rn while Luka is the best offensive threat. Luka is slow and methodical while shai uses his size and length to manipulate his body around people. He also has the best body control in the league. Luka has these eyes only few great passers have and has the ability to make phenomenal players. Super different players and I know that’s your point
Shai is a bigger kyrie
Well, Luca is a point guard and Shia is a shooting guard. Just like the NFL, you would rather have a pro bowl quarterback than a pro bowl running back. Luca is the quarterback of the team.
The mavericks have knocked off the #1 seeds twice in the last three years.
Josh Giddey you are a Hornet
He be learning Indonesian.
@@shadowmamba95lucky for Josh the age of consent in Indonesia is only 16
@@chrilpy As an Indonesian this be funny af because there's even more weirdo who trying to catch 13
@@RajonMarshall-ix3jbare they black? Passport bros??
Okc gave the mavs Dereck lively also. Traded cason Wallace and bertans for lively.
Totally forgot about this... imagine if they had lively
Still not a bad trade
not a bad trade, wallace is a really good player.
Okc also gave the wolves Jayden McDaniels too.
Imagine if the okc had instead drafted lively, twin towers!
Andy I love these more frequent videos!! Appreciate them even more!!
Sucks for okc thunder not going to the western conference finals they were fun to watch this year
This is the first time in a long time the Mavs have had a real defensive presence at the rim.
First time in 13 fucking years
hope cubes doesnt fumble anymore. We lost Tyson Chandler 1st because of Dwight Howard, then lost him 2nd because of DeAndre Jordan, he fcked the remaining years of Dirk🤦🏻♂️ hopefully he's not gonna fcked Luka's career by going after Big Named Big Men
Not a thunder fan but I gotta say their future is a lot brighter than it has been.
Fake postseason run. Would be sweep wo refs coddling. Injured pelicans
@@chauvintookaknee4blm268two 20 point blowouts were because of the refs?
Oh boyyyyy we need a sequel to this about the Nuggets
Not really. Jokic and Murray were the only two to show up. And also their bench was not as good as last season.
The NBA is a league of consistency
The problem is their inexperience. They are such a young team who exceeded expectations and will only be good for years to come if injuries don’t happen.
You hit the nail on the head. The Thunder is a very good team, but they their youth and inexperience hurt them in the end
They should for for JV this summer since the Pelicans are rumoured to not bring him back. He's a solid and heavy rebounding vet that would help them on and off the court. Biz backing him up, if he returns, would be decent too.
problem,, he is obsolete C despite the fact he could give problem to Gafford
He's overweight and slow af. Mavs' bigs would have toyed with him, c'mon man 😂 definitely not the answer lol
@@bumblebity2902 he still has 4 or 5 good years left. Plus he's a stretch big all the way to 18 to 20 ft. Thunder need size and a low post presence. Their whole game plan of drive and kicks and Shai/JDub middies are nice until it isn't. Having the option of JV in the post to switch up their schemes every now and then would be nice. Jaylin Williams can learn a thing or two from him too. Dude has a nice body but has zero post presence.
@@farkanwombo JV problem non-existent pick&roll D
@@bumblebity2902 find me a big guy who doesn't have a weakness not named Embiid, Jokic, AD. JV will help the Thunder and it's up to the coaching to work around whatever weaknesses he may have. Yall expect every big to be prime Hakeem these day?
okc was young and uncertain, mavs are very experienced. okc has players who are unsure of their roles/place on the team as this was their first good year together. they looked uncertain when shai or dub would kick it out, they werent driving as hard and werent looking to improve the intensity. reflected in their defense as well
Dismantled is a little unfair
That’s literally so harsh
Yeah, “exposed” seems more fair.
They were the First seed
@@Abelka252 Lost by 1 point on a last second play, it's not like they got blown out.
It’s just wildly inaccurate
Playing Giddey is playing 5v4 lmao
Great breakdown and HQ production value. Edit at 3:53 made me stop and appreciate the subtle smooth attention to detail. Kudos!
I think the NBA is entering a new era where it's not about how many superstars you can get on your team, but how many athletic bigs can you surround your one or two stars and shooters with.
They could turn Giddey into a 6th man version of Luka Doncic if they just give him the keys to the 2nd unit, make him the designated 2nd string PG and they draft a Defensive minded PF so Chet doesn't have to run every inch of the court lol.
Not only is Luca 6 foot seven, but he has a thick body , unlike most NBA players.
Chet definitely got screwed a little bit on the pick n roll, the other guy always seemed to get caught by the screen leaving Chet to defend by himself and no one else got boards
Giddey's offcourt issues ruined his confidence
For real
Giddey CLEARLY didn’t play well because of the allegations… he played great last year
Giddey only got around 10 minutes on court each game against the Maverick's so trading him is not going to fix everything with OKC.
I would love to see him traded to the Spurs.
Okc need a PJ TUCKER type of player that can do rebounding and hustle inside the paint.
You know what not a bad choice actually
The mavericks were and are my pick to win it all this year. They’re also the team I want because they have former hornet PJ Washington!
Pj standing on bidness!
PJ (Peanut butter & Jelly) Washington
Anyone but the Celtics
Josh Giddey is the reason why Ben Simmons aint takin 3s lol even if he's wide open he still aint knocking down that 3
Great video as always Andy OKC fan here we know we shai to count on when it comes to getting buckets I really wish we would of tried something different we had Bismarck biymbo but didn't use him and we acquired gordon and didn't really use him we've got 12th pick In this year's draft hopefully we acquire a big if not we need to trade for one but besides that I'm happy with this team we have to do it again next year i wont see it as a win unless we're back in the top 3 next year at the end of the season
The sample size difference between Chet & Gobert’s stats at 11:07 to 11:12 is disgusting 💀
9:33 - that play was something special :O
Weird video. The team blew beyond expectations. They did nothing wrong when the consensus at the start of the season was a play-in team.
They only guarantee to be better as they improved and learned from them experience.
OKC has a bright future ahead. Congratulations to them for a great season. The Dallas Mavericks were more experienced though, so that factored in why they lost the series. The Thunder will be a contender in the West for years to come.
I really wanted the OKC to go much further in the playoffs. The team had so much depth, and it's so unfortunate how their playoff run ended early
People just underestimate how important EXPERIENCE is. There is a reason why teams as inexperienced as the Thunder never made it to the CF EVER. Not once in NBA history...
@@Smido83 2012??? 2014????
@@posilblycanadawhoknows5298 What about 2012 and 2014?
@@Smido83 they made it in both of these years.
@@posilblycanadawhoknows5298 ??? Who made what?
4:44 There’s a difference between “mental health” and “mental fortitude.”
Here’s to Giddey, hoping he’d regain his confidence and not end up like Ben “Peacocker” Simmons 😅
OKC is to young...same was in KD's era...they were unexperienced and to young to win the Ring. Same thing now, but they came up on Luka and sharp and high motivated Kyrie. Last time i saw Kyrie like this was way back at 2016. when they took the Ring with Cleveland.
The line up should be Shai Dort Williams at the three Chet at the 4 and a paint beast at center next year
They’ll be back!! They’re a young team and honestly this run proves and shows them who they need to get rid of and who to draft!! In other words, get in the gym and bulk up!!
Chet is a good defender but there’s a reason why rebounding counts in defensive metrics. He got mauled on the boards by D Live.
The Mavericks should have won the series 4-1 if they didn’t shoot badly in Game 4.
Great team here but they need Chet at the 4 with a bigger versitke center at the 5
I knew you would mention Giddy as I would ask myself many times what in the hell is he doing 😂
I’m a thunder fan and I will tell you I’m very happy with their performance in general. I expected hayward and giddey to do a lot more but it is what it is. Idk what we are gonna do with giddey a trade would be the best option but with his form we won’t really get any good assets for him. As for the rest tbh I believe they are young they will develop chet has lots of thing to improve so I have high hopes for him same for jalen williams dude might be another superstar for us
Their issue is they are so 2020s basketball that the second there’s a physical presence in their way with a decent perimeter presence, their style of play transitions to iso play. Chet needs to bulk up a bit and they need more movement on the perimeter
Not trying to take anything away from Dallas's defense but OKC was missing wide open shots that they made all season.
Yes, because of Mavs adjustment and defense lol. You can make all up excuses about missing their shots and all but bottom line, they were hammered by Mavs.
@@LeonarRonquilloIf you thought that was good defense leaving guys wide open well your in for a treat for the next round. And this isn't an excuse an excuse is blaming the refs I didn't do that the thunder missing those shots that was on them not the Mavs defense.
@@corymoon1445 ??? Chet was literally getting manhandled inside the paint by Gafford and Lively. They are missing open shots because Mavs were very fast in closing out. Like DJJ was literally blocking shots from 3pt attempts because he was rushing to the player.
Y'all making excuses for "they were missing shots" so by your logic, Mavs should have left them wide open? GTFOH with that logic.
"your in for a treat for the next round" --> Classic bandwagon fan. Rooting for another team because his team got mauled lol. Couldn't care less if Mavs lost in the WCF, OKC did not do shit against Mavs and I'm already happy with that lol.
@@LeonarRonquillo Bro I'm allowed to have my own opinion. It's not an excuse but I have a feeling that when the Mavs get beat you guys are going to have all kinds of excuses lol. I watched the games all six of them and I watched the thunder miss wide open shots if you want to watch film with me I can take you to school obviously you don't know anything about basketball.
@@LeonarRonquillo all the experts said that Dallas was going to win because OKC had no experience literally our whole team combined is one year older than the Villanova college basketball team and for Oklahoma City we exceeded our expectations no one thought the thunder were going to be good this season our season was a success.
That OKC window for championship is a lot smaller actually. Rockets and Spurs are 1 or 2 season away from completing their puzzle. Pelicans could really do some dmg if Zion were healthy. And remember Grizzlies? the one with Ja Morant? yeah they coming back next season. This is Western Conf. where majority of NBA greatest talent exist. OKC better get their act together fast or it's a sayonara bye2
No one scared of the rockets, grizzlies and pelicans bruh.
@@Goatlikeitornot yeah that was what OKC thought when they go against the Mavs and what happened now?
@@made13145 no that's not what okc thought. Again, nobody scared of those teams.
OKC needs to trade Giddey to the Spurs and give them a playmaker
OKC is too young with no enforcers.
And playoffs inexperience
Enforcers are overrated. The pacers don't have one and they in the ECF
@@Ash38122only because the east is garbage (and mostly injured)
@@Ash38122 yeah and it took them 7 games to beat a heavily injured Knicks team, you can think that enforcers are overrated but using one of the easiest paths to an ECF in the past couple of years as an example is not the way.
@@Ash38122Beating two injured teams isn’t a flex
SGA was basically carrying the whole team being a free throw merchant. Chet needs to hit the weight room cause grabbing only 3 rebounds in an elimination game is unacceptable!
Refs* not shay
They need a player like Naz Reid
OKC need pursue Lauri Markannen this coming off-season 😤😤😤
They lost a series. They have a bunch of young players. They'll be back next year. Let's not shit on them.
1. 6 games is not dismantled
2. This OKC core (SGA, Chet, Jalen Williams) is just scratching the surface of their potential
3. They just need to get stronger and trade Giddey
It's mentioned in the video - the dismantling in this case doesn't have anything to do with the final series score, but rather how well Mavs were able to exploit Thunder's weaknesses (despite OKC being the heavy favorite and no. 1 seed).
Next season will be the true test for them. They had a good outing but let's see if they can keep that momentum going next year when they're no longer a surprise.
Shai too good for them not to hold up
Need you to dissect these conference finals before they start if possible 🙏🏽 would love to know which teams you think have the advantage and where
i think that rebounds are another HUGE factor of this series.
Cason Wallace missed three three-pointers in a row if he would have at least hit one three-pointer they could have worn the game or even went to overtime
Josh Giddey should be the 2nd unit starting PG
Just waiting for his Knicks season ending video
Giddey and a pick for Jerami Grant to play PF. Sign JV as backup center. That plus and another year of deveopment and they'll be killing it
giddey is worthless
What went wrong with The Knicks Next.
Injuries?
*I N J U R I E S*
Lack of depth
Only Boston had a better record than Dallas after the trade deadline. Dallas was just a better team at that point, plain and simple. I think many people just weren't paying attention.
The pressure got to the team. Only SGA was cooking but his lack of experience meant he wasn’t able to move his team to help him out. Going all hero ball might win a game but it won’t win a series.
Luka and especially Kyrie got the inexperience players to feed off them and was able to guide them to contribute. I’m starting to see Kyrie’s tactic of feeding the ball to the role players early in the game to give them easy shots and build their confidence. He takes over when more pressure is on during the 2nd half. I mean on fast breaks instead of scoring himself he will give the easy shot to a teammate so he can to get them going.
It's funny how at 6:31 Luka initially sees the pass to the corner and is like I have to guard that guy and then he sees its Giddey and is like nevermind I'll just wait here
Whenever i watched (dallas fan) i was relaxed when giddey entered…no 3, no special defense…he was a weakspot for them truly…
A series is way different, playoffs is a whole different beast.
I wouldn’t even say this video is necessary when they could’ve easily been the 3 seed and not be seen this way. They’re ahead of schedule and did great with a young squad. I’m not a OKC fan but i don’t like the Mavs
We need more bigs an interior presence. With the pelicans giving up on Jonas and Drummond wouldn’t even be that bad.Any decent big such as a Clint capela would help us drastically and fill the floor with size and more two way shooters.
Well if it makes you feel better Mavs did not play as well as they can.
The midseason trade saved the Mavs season, imhonaf.
Sam Presti can’t fumble another elite young core man, if we know anything is that a bright future only takes you so far gotta capitalize
It wasn't Sam Presti. It was the cheap ass owner that didn't want to pay three max contracts. The owner has to be willing to open up the pocket book this time...
Okc is a good young team and i think they can win it all atleast once within the 3 upcoming years. SGA was the only one who didnt choke, others specially williams was not himself and i dont blame him, they need experience, they should have jeff green rather than hayward.
OKC got a promising future shouldnt hold their heads down
The same thing happened when kd, Russell and harden were in thunders uniform. The team was too young. They had shooters but their defense were inconsistent.
Plus, OKC couldn’t handle Luka slow motion ankle breakers.
request video for Bronny Vs Thanassis please 🥺
Lively devoured Chet on the boards in game 6. The Thunder’s inexperience got the best of them, and that includes Daigenault’s questionable challenge in the last moments of the game.
Man okc is in a good place this not the first time they had young core and got defeated but they better not do what they did when they had Kd,Westbrook,Ibaka, Reggie Jackson,james Harden a young core team that went to the finals and they blew the team up okc you know you need more length don't destroy what yall have built back up.
The OKC thunder are still an amazing team until 2030 because of the CP3 and PG trades they will have many first round picks that are guaranteed to be in the draft between top 3 or top 10 like it happened with their 12th pick this year. The main problem why the Thunder lost to the mavs in series it's because the mavs exploited their weaknesses. Like with Chet holmgren with his thin frame they used Gafford more effienciently or Luka, Josh giddey who had a down year from averaging 16 ppg to 12 ppg due to the controversy he had earlier in the season. Him seeing choking in the playoffs despite that he is gonna be 22 years old in October right before the upcoming season begins he still has so much time to grow in his game. The Mavs knew that Giddey is a very bad 3 point shooter and they forced him the ball out of the hands in case that if he is wide open for 3 point shot so that increase their offense even more.
OKC was projected to be a 6 seed and they were a 1 seed in one of the most competitive west conferences. They’re waaaay ahead of schedule. I really believe their youth and inexperience killed them the most with how poor their shooting became even on open shots. Idc the hate they get about losing as the 1 seed, nuggets lost too. It’s basketball against really good teams. We will be back!
Got Haywood, who has been mostly a bust, didn't get a bruising 4, which we can now see is their biggest minus. Can they get to the Finals next year with same same? I would say no. They need a big power forward who gets a lot of rebounds, clogs the paint, doesn't necessarily have to score more than 8 points a game. Chet getting 3 rebounds and 1 assist in their final game is not gonna cut it.
Somebody said that the lane is now wide open for the Celtics and after watching everything go down I have to agree. Boston needs to lock in and they got this
Dallas is just a well oiled machine, usually pretty easy to tell by this point in the season who the champion will be and it's almost definitely gonna be Dallas provided nobody gets injured
Good video as always, but please brother change the music back to the more serious one. The current sounds like a hype anime soundtrack
The thunder had a good season and Shai really did his job well with leading the team and he should’ve won MVP or Luka at least bc he had a great season too
Honestly the Thunder should run it back with some retooling with the roster
Dismantling is a little bit unfair Andy, but I wouldn’t say like they absolutely choked. SGA did a really bad play, but I’m not gonna blame him for that because this is his first playoffs where he’s like the main guy on a team like this. the Oklahoma City thunder will be back next season tougher and they will be back for revenge. You can’t just dismiss for what this team managed to do this season.
im not impressed with okc offense tbh. its a cookie cutter 3 point chuck style with shia holding the ball for 18 seconds and passing it to a guy standing behind the 3 point line. the pacers and nuggets offense are legit old school and nice to watch
Josh Giddey. Tragic Bronson alert
The way they got chet to spam pick and roll and how effective it was through entire series is baffled me. Like, just give that stickman ball he need
Chet needs to get bigger because rebounding is a part of his game. That was a huge issue
Yes. 3 Rebounds wont cut it in a win or go home game.
SGA is the only guy that came ready. The rest of them are really too inexperienced. We've also seen the Chet "tall guy be the center" plan from KD in OKC before. They should get a proper center and play Chet on the wing to make use of his long strides and shooting ability. Giddey should be gone, OKC should really start trading their picks and players to get some guys that are experienced to help SGA.
They need to trade Giddey because he is misfit. Also, didn't help that he played 3 different position in his seasons respectively. However as team develops he fell out of context. Also need physical PF, because Jalen Williams is pure stretch 4. JV is not the option because he's too slow. Chet must improve physicality to decent level
As a Clipper fan, we are still even.
We’ll be #1 again next year but we’ll get the chip this time around
Now a video of everything that went wrong with the nuggets.
I'm still shocked that They lost by one point 😳 and they had they were #1 in the Western conference. They swept the New orleans pelicans in the first round. But Lost to The Dallas Mavericks in six games 4-2. And there's barely any notable players on their roster. Though I understand they were young. But some people probably will recognize some names like Gordon Hayward. Who was an all star on The Utah Jazz. Busy B who was on The 2011-12 Bobcats with 7 wins and 59 losses. SGA who was their best player. And also they was the first #1 seed to lose to the #8 seed back in 1994 When They Was known as The Seattle Supersonics. And they lost to The Denver Nuggets in 5 games. 3-2. Followed by The Miami Heat in 1999. The Dallas Mavericks in 2007. The San Antonio Spurs in 2011 and The Milwaukee Bucks in 2023. I'm not sure if The Thunder is going to return to the playoffs next season or not but it's.50/50. In the 2022-23 season. The Thunder made the play-in tournament. They defeated The New Orleans Pelicans in the first state of the tournament. But Lost To The Minnesota Timberwolves in the second stage of the tournament. And that eliminated them from Playoff contention.
Dallas were just a nightmare match-up against them. I mean every basketball enthusiast knows that from the very beginning of their series. Mavs are more agile and flexible from 1 to 5 positions. Luka may not be a good defender against quicker guard but he is good in low post games. We knew OKC though have problems of lacking wing or center positions and Mavs maximize it. Their flaws already can be seen from game 1 of their series against pelicans. They might be the top seeded team but the last 3 teams remaining in west were just too good against them.
The fact that Kyrie Irving, a 6'2" point guard, is a menace on defense as a two-guard is absolutely ridiculous.
Idk who would even want Giddey besides the Hornets. The allegations took away his game
They need size,OKC made Lively look like Olajuwon,lol