Dylan didn't write' I want to join Little Richard' in his school yearbook. It actually says 'To join Little Richard' and was probably a slightly sarcastic comment by whoever compiled that page of the book. Also, Dylan 'had no interest in the West'?? He recorded an album named after one of the most notorious Western gunmen, and appeared in and wrote the music for a film about another, to say nothing of peppering his conversation with references to Jesse James. Then there's Brownsville Girl, and it's even been suggested that he took his name from Gunsmoke's Matt Dillon....
Great topic, Bob Dylan's art, oft neglected. Really interesting coverage, sparked a few comments below... Discussed in the EDLIS Café. EDLIS Café Press EDLIS art index /\ Google is your friend ;-) URL links not allowed in RUclips. \ "she was an art student at NYU when they met" This is new to me, do you have a reference? (Suze Rotolo attended art classes at the Art Students League and the School of Visual Arts but NYU is not mentioned in the sources we have read.) "Dylan had gone to England of course and the famous tour in the 60s but he had never been to France" "Dylan didn't go to France I think until the 80s" "21 May - Early June 1964 Bob Dylan arrives in Paris where he stays with the French singer Hughes Aufray. He also meets Nico, to whom he later donates his song I'll Keep It With Mine, which she includes on her first album." May 24, 1966 Concert Paris, France L'Olympia "crucial night July 25th 1969" was in fact 1965.
14:55 Monk (2009) Acrylic and oil on canvas 123 x 91 cm Pages 39-41 in: Dylan, Bob. The Asia Series. New York City : Gagosian Gallery, 2011. 9781935263470. Asia Series The image used in the projector was; Buddhist Priest "A photograph of a Buddhist priest, taken in the 1880's." 1880s albumen studio image photographed by 日下部 金兵衛 (Kusakabe Kimbei 1841 - 1934).
15:51 "Dylan is a fairly conservative painter so far that I know he's never done any abstract work" Untitled (1968) An abstract painting of a woman, nude. Oil on canvas 152 x 107 cm "Displaying on the auction stage will be an original abstract nude oil painting on canvas handpainted in the 1960s by the music legend (estimate: $100,000 - $200,000). The painting, gifted from Dylan to his manager Albert Grossman was featured in the touring exhibition “Bob Dylan’s American Journey: 1956-1966” at the Experience Music Project of Seattle and displayed at the Morgan Library and Museum in New York City and The Grammy Museum in Los Angeles." or Table, The (1972) Oil on canvas
16:06 "a guy passed out in a New York Bar and that is relevant" No! It is an unnamed South American village!!! (Sorcerer (1977) a second adaptation of Georges Arnaud's 1950 French novel Le Salaire de la peuris. Watch the film, read the book,)
I just wanted to say that Bob Dylan has renamed the painting « One too many » into « Solitude ». It is interesting to note that he insisted to change the name of the painting ! It seems he cares !!!
This is a perfect example of a supposed expert over analyzing the content, exactly what Dylan himself claimed was a waste of time. He suggested such critics should get a life of their own.
I liked his points of view ... you can nitpick on some of the details (even how to pronounce her name ... rhymes with 'muse' or 'floosy' ?) but it's quite a first in connecting his music with his painting and sculpture and the ideas underlying both.
>even how to pronounce her name ... rhymes with 'muse' or 'floosy' Jim pronounces it correctly. The latter has always been the pronunciation from when she first became well known in the 1960s. The former pronunciation has no sources.
I can trace Dylan's 'transitional space' back to One Too Many Mornings, where in the last verse he stands at the threshold of the house he is leaving and gazes back to the doorway where he and his lover lay, then back to the street and its signs. In the process he pinpoints the exact moment when a love affair ends. By the way, I think you missed that he was fascinated by Hollywood movies. Much of his artistic eye comes from that - as do many of his lyrics. Dylan was what you might call a 'kleptoartist', steal a bit here, steal a bit there, rearrange it and see who notices (not many!). He works on the boundary between art and fraud, asks 'What is real?' and loves to play the jester. Who is deceiving who? There's your liminal space again!
Small correction: He went to Paris once in 1964 (page 157 in Heylin’s Behind the Shades). But he was more interested in meeting Brigitte Bardot than Picasso (but he didn’t)
Ashcan School? Not really urban street life. The appropriated image is from a film. The source is pulpy realism via Hollywood cinematography. For these pieces, Dylan must select the film imagery? The actual painters? - not known. There is an obvious Jeff Koons take on fine art craftsmanship going on with this output that no one addresses.
He has kept himself relevant by keeping his thoughts and emotions to himself and letting every “expert” interpret him as they want. Adds to the mystery. But the poignancy of listening to his 60’s and 70’s music is long gone.
Dylan played in Paris in the 60’s
Dylan didn't write' I want to join Little Richard' in his school yearbook. It actually says 'To join Little Richard' and was probably a slightly sarcastic comment by whoever compiled that page of the book. Also, Dylan 'had no interest in the West'?? He recorded an album named after one of the most notorious Western gunmen, and appeared in and wrote the music for a film about another, to say nothing of peppering his conversation with references to Jesse James. Then there's Brownsville Girl, and it's even been suggested that he took his name from Gunsmoke's Matt Dillon....
I think that's Eddie Cochran on the right
Great topic, Bob Dylan's art, oft neglected. Really interesting coverage, sparked a few comments below...
Discussed in the EDLIS Café.
EDLIS Café Press
EDLIS art index
/\ Google is your friend ;-) URL links not allowed in RUclips. \
"she was an art student at NYU when they met" This is new to me, do you have a reference? (Suze Rotolo attended art classes at the Art Students League and the School of Visual Arts but NYU is not mentioned in the sources we have read.)
"Dylan had gone to England of course and the famous tour in the 60s but he had never been to France" "Dylan didn't go to France I think until the 80s"
"21 May - Early June
1964
Bob Dylan arrives in Paris where he stays with the French singer Hughes Aufray. He also meets Nico, to whom he later donates his song I'll Keep It With Mine, which she includes on her first album."
May 24, 1966
Concert
Paris, France
L'Olympia
"crucial night July 25th 1969" was in fact 1965.
13:10
Self Portrait (1970)
Album cover 1970
14:55
Monk (2009)
Acrylic and oil on canvas
123 x 91 cm
Pages 39-41 in:
Dylan, Bob. The Asia Series. New York City : Gagosian Gallery, 2011. 9781935263470.
Asia Series
The image used in the projector was;
Buddhist Priest
"A photograph of a Buddhist priest, taken in the 1880's."
1880s albumen studio image photographed by 日下部 金兵衛 (Kusakabe Kimbei 1841 - 1934).
15:51
"Dylan is a fairly conservative painter so far that I know he's never done any abstract work"
Untitled (1968)
An abstract painting of a woman, nude.
Oil on canvas
152 x 107 cm
"Displaying on the auction stage will be an original abstract nude oil painting on canvas handpainted in the 1960s by the music legend (estimate: $100,000 - $200,000). The painting, gifted from Dylan to his manager Albert Grossman was featured in the touring exhibition “Bob Dylan’s American Journey: 1956-1966” at the Experience Music Project of Seattle and displayed at the Morgan Library and Museum in New York City and The Grammy Museum in Los Angeles."
or
Table, The (1972)
Oil on canvas
16:06
"a guy passed out in a New York Bar and that is relevant"
No!
It is an unnamed South American village!!! (Sorcerer (1977) a second adaptation of Georges Arnaud's 1950 French novel Le Salaire de la peuris. Watch the film, read the book,)
16:46
Blue Misty Marsh (2020)
Acrylic on canvas
120 x 160 cm
Retrospectrum, Beaten Path 2022
Version. 1 white signature
Version 2 black signature
I just wanted to say that Bob Dylan has renamed the painting « One too many » into « Solitude ». It is interesting to note that he insisted to change the name of the painting ! It seems he cares !!!
Dylan spent his 25th Birthday in Paris and played a show there that day.
This is a perfect example of a supposed expert over analyzing the content, exactly what Dylan himself claimed was a waste of time. He suggested such critics should get a life of their own.
My thoughts precisely, apparent from opening statements on ✅
I liked his points of view ... you can nitpick on some of the details (even how to pronounce her name ... rhymes with 'muse' or 'floosy' ?) but it's quite a first in connecting his music with his painting and sculpture and the ideas underlying both.
>even how to pronounce her name ... rhymes with 'muse' or 'floosy'
Jim pronounces it correctly. The latter has always been the pronunciation from when she first became well known in the 1960s. The former pronunciation has no sources.
I can trace Dylan's 'transitional space' back to One Too Many Mornings, where in the last verse he stands at the threshold of the house he is leaving and gazes back to the doorway where he and his lover lay, then back to the street and its signs. In the process he pinpoints the exact moment when a love affair ends. By the way, I think you missed that he was fascinated by Hollywood movies. Much of his artistic eye comes from that - as do many of his lyrics. Dylan was what you might call a 'kleptoartist', steal a bit here, steal a bit there, rearrange it and see who notices (not many!). He works on the boundary between art and fraud, asks 'What is real?' and loves to play the jester. Who is deceiving who? There's your liminal space again!
Small correction: He went to Paris once in 1964 (page 157 in Heylin’s Behind the Shades). But he was more interested in meeting Brigitte Bardot than Picasso (but he didn’t)
Ummm yeah!
Ashcan School? Not really urban street life. The appropriated image is from a film. The source is pulpy
realism via Hollywood cinematography. For these pieces, Dylan must select the film imagery? The actual painters? - not known.
There is an obvious Jeff Koons take on fine art craftsmanship going on with this output that no one addresses.
Dylan had a first love in Hibbing named Echo ? They spent much time together in high school. I think she was the girl from the north country.
Hello...Bob is on tour in 2024!!
My idol
Fascinating 🧐 I guess one would describe this as “high”pop art…🤗
Why did you go electric Bob?
Why did you, quipped Bob?
27:00 "Standing In The Doorway"
Bob told me to never drop names.
I'm going to steal that line!
Ah Yes. Now I remember. I knew that when he went to Paris he wasn't interested in the art..
Bob's plane as day.
Bowie's version of Pablo Picasso is best.
He has kept himself relevant by keeping his thoughts and emotions to himself and letting every “expert” interpret him as they want. Adds to the mystery. But the poignancy of listening to his 60’s and 70’s music is long gone.
Maybe in new york but he had afew before get your fact straight
A South African does the metal work.Ya think bobs got time
1st❤
too much monotone and not enough of bob's music
Boy I wish I had a sox full of horse manure
Yawn.
How droll!