I love how they pick someone who clearly can’t make proper decisions. He knew it was an opioid agonist but still decided to use it recreationally. To call it gas station heroin is exaggerated. All opioid agonists have antidepressant effects. This doesn’t make Tianeptine more or less addicting. Dramatic word play is really annoying.
I think you’re missing the point. Til is an antidepressant molecule literally. TCA’s similar to it have withdrawal symptoms so it probably makes things more sidicukt
@@SkatinLanc Tianeptine does not function like typical antidepressants and doesn’t interact with the same systems as ssri or ndri antidepressants, but the report is trying to say that is the equivalent of “legal” heroin and could be more addicting. It has pronounced antidepressant effects because it has serotonin regulation potential, but maintenance drugs like methadone does the exact same thing so it’s not unique to Tianeptine.
Tianeptine affects Serotonin release and is prescribed as an antidepressant in Europe as a superior alternative to SSRIs like Prozac, it is not at all similar to Opiates in any way. Whoever produced this report would have known this had they done a basic 5 minute google homework search but couldn't be bothered. This news report is completely asinine & idiotic.
McGuire, LOL. IKR? it all comes down to dosage. The users the media paints as "typical users" are taking drugs by the handfuls and never reset their tolerance. Media is the Addict !
Kratom got me off of heroin when the doctors turned me down when I begged for help. Anything can become addictive if you have an addictive personality guys. Stop trying to stop drugs. They are everywhere, focus your energy on helping not arresting addicts and you may see a change.
I finally decided to try it. Unfortunately, it's not for me. I slowly added the pre-measured capsules and only took 1gram. I was crawling out of my skin! I don't know if this is related to kratom but I broke out, and have had liver pain (been there, know how it feels) for the last 3 days. I didn't change any other thing I normally ingest. ie: diet, vitamins, etc. I always drink a ton of water too. Just be careful! This old Grammie needs to keep searching. Good luck! ✌
Right, like I never heard of this. Some people are only having accessibility away from being addicts. We all know that kid that would do anything he could find. This is that kids wet dream
Exactly! And states that kratom has been made illegal, literally a ground up leaf, genuinely works, made illegal for why? Pharma lobbyists? Absolutely terrible how the system is for real genuine chronic pain sufferers.
Kratom saved my life! I don't have to use heroin everyday and I don't have to worry about overdose or stealing to get enough money for drugs. I can work a normal job, and order my kratom no problem. Kratom let's me feel well enough to play with my daughter. It's a gift from god. Not "has station heroin" what a sensationalist piece of bad journalism.
You're absolutely right, but this story is about a pill called tianeptine, not kratom. I think people are confused because kratom has also been referred to as "gas station heroin".
Devils advocate here: but your brain is dependent on Kratom. What happens if they make that illegal? Have you thought about it? I'm a pain patient BTW.
I was addicted to tianeptine. I used to order it from a “research” lab online. Was easy and cheap. The withdrawals were absolutely hellish. Worse than opioids alone. Kratom helped me kick it. Kratom is amazing in moderation.
@@Crystal-mv2xz Yes for kratom! It should never be made illegal, it should be sold in every Walmart for 18 and up or something. Big pharma lobbys against it, because it's an all natural ground up leaf, and works better usually than any for of pharmaceutical pain management
@@herehere3139 Just be careful with kratom. I was on it for around a year and it absolutely destroyed my memory. I thought it was helping me with some issues I was having, and for a time it was. But after a while my anxiety was absolutely peaking and I was also having significant liver problems. I don't think that kratom should be made illegal, but I think that people should know that it's not all sunshine and daisies.
I'm so glad you said "in moderation" before I got the treatment I needed for pain kratom was literally the only thing I had to get me out of bed barely even that wasn't enough but I got to the point where I was on Max dose multiple times a day and everyone says you can't withdrawal on it but let me tell you when you're a sick as I was it's very possible withdrawal on it might not be a severe but it's very noticeable felt like I got hit by a car for 2 days when I decided to cut down my dosage wouldn't touch this shit now
Also people with histories of drug abuse tend to have mental health issues, ptsd, etc. Therapy and medicine help addicts. Self accountability changes when your brain does. There is science behind chemical dependency, not just “ don’t do it” “have self control” lol.
@@sammarie8923 I've been addicted, and it was mostly due to my OCD. Self-control and discipline are the most important factors and is why I can responsibly use substances now. I don't like the scapegoat of "It's brain chemistry". Can't is the cancer of doing. There's always a way.
@@sammarie8923 this is true, but my brain changed when i started taking self accountability. there an old saying *i can't think myself into right acting, but i can act myself into right thinking*
1:27 - Brandon was a recovering opioid addict who then decided to take some strange pills he found at a gas station based on his own internet research. He then gets addicted to THOSE and doesn't realize how bad it is for 5 months? Brandon seems like he'll take anything that is addictive and then later insist he had no idea.
Great example of how misinformation is so toxic. Dude was just trying to find some relief with something he thought was much safer and had less abuse potential than traditional opioids, he didn’t ask for it.
@Ayethere M8 you’re dumbing things down, situations like these are usually more complex than it seems. No doubt he was probably looking for some relief, a lot of people are suffering and it isn’t a simple task to fix that. And as for him simply looking it up and figuring out it was a no go, you realize how much conflicting/misinformation is out there on the internet. Life ain’t that simple, maybe you’re young, but if you think if everyone just did some internet drug research before they got involved and then they’d magically steer clear of some sort of addiction, whether it be a more obscure drug or something like this that has a lot of conflicting information about it, you have a lot to learn.
There are no withdrawals from Kratom. If you're using that much kratom to get withdrawal you're an idiot. Kratom is an EXCELLENT supplement to get off opiates.
If you're taking 120 pills a day, you don't need 5 months to realize there's a problem. This guy was experienced with opioids so he must have known as soon as he started increasing his doses.
Also this absolutely screams " paid for by big pharma" lmfao. They should run this ad right beside all the ban vaping ads that way we understand who's paying for these segments and why
I didn't know about this. Thanks for making it publicly known. Now make a video on how to sell and refine it. Im sure the kids that watched this don't know how.
Good old opioid electric body jerks that's horrible lol I had that when I was an addict! Ohh that's so good to say, WHEN I WAS AN ADDICT! so hard but now I'm free!
Did u ever get the cold chills going up ur spine? I used 2 and no one else I've came across who was using or used 2 use opioids knows what I'm talking about. Guess withdrawl is different 4 everyone.
If ur taking bottles at a time ur the darn problem. Ur the same as the guy who eats 12 burgers in an hour n then says McDonald's got u addicted to that mccheese. U increased ur usage so fast all u proved to me was ur addiction began as mental because u increased ur usage to dangerous levels faster than ur body could become physically addicted.
I do Kratom I left Alabama when they made it illegal within a few months everyone turned to this it’s horrible and I wouldn’t ever try it again. Alabama should have left kratom alone and just got rid of this.
There are no drugs or supplements that turn people into addicts. You see, humanity has been making the mistake of thinking the drugs, the plants and the chemicals involved are to be blamed. You think the people who grow, produce and sell these things are to be blamed. But underneath it all, you know it's true, it's within each person to be accountable to their actions at the end of the day.
Addiction isn’t the only terrible thing that comes from buying substances from dealers… dealers cut their products all of the time with deadly shit you’d never know about, or aftermarket pills and before you know it important, intelligent, and loved people are dying from a very sad disease. This is only one example of the multitude of terrifying things that can happen in addiction in general. Accountability is absolutely the first step in recovery, but addiction and the journey to becoming an addict is so much more complicated than you or others seem to think it is. Kids grow up around this kind of stuff and it’s really not uncommon for young kids to just think doing hard drugs by the time they’re in middle school is normal.. because it is their normal… Every circumstance is different. Just educate yourself.
@@amanduhh7980 addiction is NOT a disease. It's a choice. Calling it a disease is so counterproductive to recovery. It allows the person to not.take full responsibility and puts blame on the "disease". When you first start abusing the drug, you make the decision to become the addict.
I agree with everyone here. It’s a choice to first take a drug, tho under the influence of said drug, depending on how much of a cocktail one has chosen to take, they end up on a benderrrrr a straight benderrrr where they don’t know wtf they’re doing at all the whole time. Then ya wake up one day and boom it all hits ya cuz you’re not on the drugs any more. So yes, anyone can become an addict, and it’s a choice to inhale a drug (but also this varies like who are they with, how much are they taking, how conscious of their decisions to take more drugs while on certain drugs already, are they aware of?) I agreee accountability is so important. Nothing to be ashamed of if you’re recovering btw! And yes taking drugs in the first place is objectively not good. Ya never know what’ll happen on drugs. Of course this depends like some drugs ppl have more self control. Sometimes ppl go straight crazy and do objectively horrible things to people and then to themselves.
I think saying addiction is a disease is like a metaphor. Drugs ruin the body and mind like a disease. People choose to take those drugs one day, people can choose not to take those drugs for the rest of their lives after that. Accountability of the present and all that before is so helpful in recovery. Awareness is great and hard to see while someone is under the influence
So while it is a choice to take drugs. Once certain drugs are taken they can take over the brain and body unless there’s some sort of intervention whether with the self or treatment or a buddy. It’s so hard to quit for some people which sux. Drugs ruin the people who chose to take them if they continue to take them until they die.
When he took more than the recommended dose and that wasn't enough, is all he should have needed to know this was not the supplement for him. Most people are not going to go to the crazy extreme that he did. This is a lesson for no one.
Im a recovering fent addict. Kratom is some weak stuff. I got some when I initially tried to quit sinoloan oxy’s. It didn’t help me much at all. The fent and carfent is just to damn strong. Even a normal 15mg Percocet didn’t hardly dent my wd’s. Anyway, I’m on suboxone now and I’m doing a lot better.
Asking an addict who already suffers from lack of self control to explain why a certain compound is non sustainable for its potential therapeutic properties is absolutely baffling to me…🙄🤦♂️🤦♂️
I used to do heroin and fentanyl. Tianeptine the kratom helps me get clean. These are less addict options than the doctor you can do at home. Doctors can't help you if you can't help you
*One year ago today I took this stuff and went into a coma and was on life support in the hospital for 2 weeks,I ended up having septis of the blood,my brain seized up and I've had kidney surgeries throughout this year,i woke up in the hospital bed gasping for air when I woke up out of the coma and seen my family praying over me,I had to get off this stuff and it was the most painful thing ever,it lasted a month,but i understood it had to hurt to heal, scariest thing ever!*
@@austinteis3158 did “mum” get blasted off her ass today too? I smoked some crazy ass DMT, waited an hour or so, and then shot me some fentadope along with the tiny lil bit of BTH I had left..(GOD BLESS PORTLAND!!!!) Did mummy do that too?
120 pills a day is on the user. He was already addicted. Just couldn't find it. Turned to that. Addicted users will try anything. Cough medicine, etc. In order to get relief.
This guy is ridiculous. I was addicted to heroin years ago and have done Tianeptine occasionally. Sorry, but begging the Federal Government to protect us from ourselves is stupid.
@@chicofromph33nix64 brother, I know that all too well. I agree, but my point is to be aware, the solution is to become free from all substances. Kratom was good for me until it wasn't anymore. Then I had to go through the pain of withdrawals finally. Your words are correcrt, harm reduction is great. People need to step off the hard stuff in my opinion, more often than not. Otherwise, they go stone cold sober and get bored then relapse. Addiction is spiritual in nature, people who love themselves do not put themselves in harms way.
@@gregfrench1254 I agree with you 110%... I was mainly referring to the part where you said,"if you're an addict already".. but I see where you're coming from...
Yes, but kids can buy it and become opioid addicts from it. So you can't have this on store shelves. And most are using Kratom when they don't have heroin or other opioids. Very few have quit with Kratom. And even they haven't quit, they just take Kratom rather than heroin
@@littlelarry2912 There is no NEED for people to quit Kratom basically, Because most take kratom in place of pain management opioids, and take kratom because it's a ground up leaf and works to keep chronic pain from injuries or disc disease etc away
@@herehere3139 No need to quit Kratom ? If an opioid addict doesn't have Kratom, they are right back to the opioids that they started on. It's the same addiction. What do these people do when they cannot buy Kratom ? Example, if FDA would ban it from store shelves. Or States decide they want to ban it, to prevent kids and adults from buying and becoming opioid dependent. Kratom is now part of drug testing for CDL drivers at UPS , FED EX, etc.... I'm sure the rest of corporate america will be jumping on board. Just my opinion, but seem like good reasons why people would need to quit taking kratom. So they can live a normal life, keep a job, family, go on vacations, move to areas that don't sell Kratom, etc..
It's funny how people talk about him getting it at a gas station, like it's absolutely absurd something so addictive would be so easily atattainable. No regards to the millions of lives alcohol ruins (and ends). Just as addictive and the withdrawals often kill.
I don't understand how you can buy it because it's not approved in the USA as a medicine OR supplement, so it's illegal to sell as a supplement. And now everyone wants it!
I took this drug for 3 months as an addict looking for a legal opioid high, I have a few videos on my youtube about this powerful synthetic opioid that should be banned (it does get u pretty damn high). It's sad to see this dude didn't know his dose :( I highly doubt this dude died from respiratory depression like u would from a traditional opioid, this dude probs died from cardiac arrhythmias given its similarities in structure to a tca. I know this from personal experience with trying to abuse this drug, you hit a dose where you just know that it's doing harm to ur heart (heart racing and just an overall bad experience which is exactly why I quit). I didn't feel any of these negative side effects the first time I got high because the dose was too low to have the deadly side effects, but once you go any higher than 600mg you definitely run into trouble. This kid obviously wasn't careful enough with his doses and he overdosed and died ultimately not from respiratory depression but from a heart arrhythmia that was brought on because he thought he could take 1+ grams like people did online which is impossible to survive if you have zero tolerance people!
@@backwoodsjunkie08 yea I watched my buddy have a seizure from it years ago. Then I got really sick from it one night. And not long after, I couldn't even smoke regular weed anymore.. it started giving me racing thoughts, paranoia and anxiety..
@@backwoodsjunkie08 BROO i remember when "spice" first hit florida when i was around like 12, it was big down there , they called it K2 in florida , but we were so such young boys and kids we called stupidly called it "Fake' weed, it wasnt until i was older i realized, when reminiscing on the high, it was a Upper like no other! heart pounding, sweats, it was basically pharmaceutical meth! i was doing spice since 12 years old but florida education really never seen anything like it, so we didnt know what to call it, i would never touch that stuff again, very sad ,
This was somebody that abused it If you abuse anything more than likely it's gonna be bad.... This is why good things that help people get ruined Because somebody did not have respect for something that is powerful...... This stuff does work But you better have respect Or it's going to feel like Mike Tyson came to see you And I don't mean to come hang out and sign autographs and take a pictures... Be safe 🙏.....
Having respect for something powerful isn't even the case. An addict can't help abusing something that gives them pleasure. This is what's wrong. You're the type to tell an addict, "why can't you stop using you dont have the willpower?" It doesn't work like that.
Actually, this "gas station heroin" is just a regular antidepressant commonly prescribed to old person in my country. In my country it's abused less than 0.1% of the time. The issue isn't the molecule, it's the auto-medication.
Lol thats funny but true ! As a forner heroin addict, I can say, pure heroin is less harmful than any drug out there that is legal or prescribed. Nicotine and alcohol are the dirtiest yet they are the most legal!! Someone wants us all to be sick.
@@lauraestes9304 hi 🙋🏻♀️ I’m 53 and I’m in that generation where years ago (in my 30’s), drs were prescribing mass quantities of opioid pain pills, but they didn’t want me or anyone else that suffered from chronic widespread pain to know that all these pills were addictive. What makes it bad now is, they make you choose between benzos and pain meds. It’s the people that have so much pain that sometimes have to find their relief because drs can’t help anymore. They also label pain patients as junkies and that’s not even fair!! I’ve always said that I WISH Big Pharma could make these pills non addictive, but then they wouldn’t get those big paydays! They don’t want anyone getting off of these drugs because they wouldn’t have a job! It infuriates me and I’ll NEVER judge anyone that goes to the streets to find drugs to get them out of pain. What I mean by “pain” is, the actual pain from a damaged spine, etc and the “pain” that stems from addiction. Years ago, people could go to their primary care Dr and get pain meds, but now you have to go to a pain clinic. The pain clinics don’t want to increase pain medication. They take the dosage down because they’re afraid of losing their license. They realize that people become tolerant to it. You would think that they would want to better care for the patient. This is why people turn to the streets for drugs! It’s a horrible situation that we can thank pain clinics for 🙄 They treat grown adults like trash! My heart breaks for anyone that’s addicted to opioids or has been addicted. Hopefully one day there will be a drug for chronic pain that works but isn’t addictive.
when I was watching I was like "aw I live in east Texas, prob couldn't find this if I tried" Reporter- "I just ordered it online" "bitch, you a genius. I didn't even think ab that!"
Depends on how much of the recommended dosage. Twice as much aspirin and someone like me will be fine. And anyone takes 5 times as much cannabis edibles as recommended, & they're gonna be fine. . . .well ;) at least they're definitely not gonna die
Believe it or not most people are not there for the usual suspects when i was there, there was a guy there who couldn't wash his hands he was too afraid
@@anonymousher0 oh but they do when I was there it was mainly for drugs and alcohol 🍺 but there was severe depression and there’s gambling 🎰 also gaming addiction lol so they say at least there’s people addicted to rehab hoping if there’s a thing out there that atleast one person can get addicted to I feel like it’s happened lol 2021 for the win 🤔😂💭
@@backwoodsjunkie08 Exactly. The "War on Drugs" is Bull S**t. It is a war on PEOPLE. And addiction is a disease; not a character defect. You would think, by now, we would have come up with a _solid_ plan of action for those who have been consumed by it.
Did he really think it was responsible to take that much of anything? Vitamins in that amount would have killed him. I've had this and it's pretty good stuff.. I didn't find it addictive.
The moral here is not to ban everything, but how about you simply dont abuse things? If we keep making things illegal, pretty soon they'll be nothing to enjoy.
i'm on methadone maintenance, and as long as you take a reasonable amount (let's say, no more than one bottle a day), you can actually enjoy the subtle high & relaxation without ever waking up with withdrawals the next day. I can easily get high for a few days without having any consequences when I run out or decide to take a break. ps. keep in mind, the reason I don't suffer consequences is because the methadone prevents any withdrawals from the tianeptine & also significantly dampens any cravings I might have for the tianeptine when I run out or decide to take a break from using it.
That's interesting... makes sense with the methadone. But please, please be careful when you stop the methadone! Tianeptine is incredibly addictive, and the withdrawals are a holy terror! It's subjective, affecting different people differently, but for many the withdrawals are very severe, second only to long-term benzo use withdrawals. I've read/watched many people in the grip of the withdrawals, and they often say it's more miserable than fent withdrawals!
Tianeptine is a fun drug but it can only be used recreationally for 1-2 days then it stops working. My younger bro is into RCs and that’s how I’ve tried it on a few occasions. It did have me in a full standing nod the first time I took it. I took a lot.
So the stuff you took "Tianeptine" is that the pill she's talking about from the video the TNFT? And if it is the same thing where do you find some I bought kratom and it doesn't work the best so I'd like to try what there saying I. The video so is the Tianeptine the TNFT just the real name for it?
Don’t do it guys…I spend $600 a paycheck for pure tianeptine. The withdrawals are HORRIBLE!! Not to mention the high it amazing for a bit, but eventually you’re redosing once every hour and you are no longer getting high, you’re just taking it to not be sick. I’m up to 550mg-600mg every 1-2 hours…
Don't tell people not to do it when you're showing that you neglected the fact you have addictive tendencies. Not everyone does, and therefore, shouldn't be treated in the same fashion as you. Everyone is different.
End the war on drugs. Let’s maybe start helping addicts and putting more energy into treatment centers/ care instead of focusing on dumb shit like this.
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My car got addicted to fuel at that same gas station
Most underrated comment EVER! Thank you for the laugh 😂🤣😂
You need a Tesla intervention.
Stp gas treatment can help your car with withdrawals.
Lmao!
O shit fr? I heard that shit will happen I hope you the best man
"I got some in different store across the nation, I even ordered some to my house" sounds like she stocked up for a 3 week binder
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Exactly
Bender
I love how they pick someone who clearly can’t make proper decisions. He knew it was an opioid agonist but still decided to use it recreationally. To call it gas station heroin is exaggerated. All opioid agonists have antidepressant effects. This doesn’t make Tianeptine more or less addicting. Dramatic word play is really annoying.
I think you’re missing the point. Til is an antidepressant molecule literally. TCA’s similar to it have withdrawal symptoms so it probably makes things more sidicukt
@@SkatinLanc Tianeptine does not function like typical antidepressants and doesn’t interact with the same systems as ssri or ndri antidepressants, but the report is trying to say that is the equivalent of “legal” heroin and could be more addicting. It has pronounced antidepressant effects because it has serotonin regulation potential, but maintenance drugs like methadone does the exact same thing so it’s not unique to Tianeptine.
Tianeptine affects Serotonin release and is prescribed as an antidepressant in Europe as a superior alternative to SSRIs like Prozac, it is not at all similar to Opiates in any way. Whoever produced this report would have known this had they done a basic 5 minute google homework search but couldn't be bothered. This news report is completely asinine & idiotic.
McGuire,
LOL. IKR?
it all comes down to dosage. The users the media paints as "typical users" are taking drugs by the handfuls and never reset their tolerance.
Media is the Addict !
He goes off Suboxone, gets hooked on this, then tries rehab? How about going back on Suboxone? Clearly went off it too early.
Kratom got me off of heroin when the doctors turned me down when I begged for help. Anything can become addictive if you have an addictive personality guys. Stop trying to stop drugs. They are everywhere, focus your energy on helping not arresting addicts and you may see a change.
Lol Kratom is almost just as bad
@@carvinguptrails not even remotely.
Keep Kratom Legal! 👍
Thank you!
I finally decided to try it. Unfortunately, it's not for me. I slowly added the pre-measured capsules and only took 1gram. I was crawling out of my skin! I don't know if this is related to kratom but I broke out, and have had liver pain (been there, know how it feels) for the last 3 days. I didn't change any other thing I normally ingest. ie: diet, vitamins, etc. I always drink a ton of water too.
Just be careful! This old Grammie needs to keep searching.
Good luck! ✌
Congrats on letting everyone know about this, you’re just letting everyone know about new drugs, thank you, now I’m going to try some.
Is this your first time learning that the news advertises drugs? Who do you think brought it to America ?
@@kikipeachie ok
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Ikr! Lol potato I was yelling "write that down, write that down" 🤣
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They basically tell you what it is, how, what it's like, where you can buy it from LOL talk about slick advertisement.
Right, like I never heard of this. Some people are only having accessibility away from being addicts. We all know that kid that would do anything he could find. This is that kids wet dream
It arrived in just a few days! So hurry up and order today!
I know right? If it's an antidepressant, why is it seen opiate? Seems weird right?
Yep thanks for the laws that left Chronic Pain Sufferers without meds. Just great. I love being in horrible pain everyday.
THIS!!!!!!!
And they essentially treat you like an addict most of the time. It's super ridiculous
Exactly! And states that kratom has been made illegal, literally a ground up leaf, genuinely works, made illegal for why? Pharma lobbyists? Absolutely terrible how the system is for real genuine chronic pain sufferers.
@@IzzyAzzy46which they’re also trying to make illegal
Kratom!
I asked the guy at the gas station where the “gas station heroin” was and he just pointed to the candy section
Bruh
LoL
Lol 😂
Candy makes you dandy
Ferb, I know what were gonna do today
My ribs hurt from laughing.
MOOOOOMMMMM!! Lol
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Kratom saved my life! I don't have to use heroin everyday and I don't have to worry about overdose or stealing to get enough money for drugs. I can work a normal job, and order my kratom no problem. Kratom let's me feel well enough to play with my daughter. It's a gift from god. Not "has station heroin" what a sensationalist piece of bad journalism.
You're absolutely right, but this story is about a pill called tianeptine, not kratom. I think people are confused because kratom has also been referred to as "gas station heroin".
@@primitiveanxiety7135 ur right
Kratom is the best
Devils advocate here: but your brain is dependent on Kratom. What happens if they make that illegal? Have you thought about it? I'm a pain patient BTW.
tianeptine is not kratom and the two should NEVER be mixed,kratom is 9-O-demethylmitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine
Thanks for your reporting! Never heard of it before, now I’m on the hunt.
🤣🤣🤣 I have an addictive personality and that's the first thing I thought. But nope fu** that not going back down that road. The devil 😈
I’ve been searching too. Can’t find it. Any luck on your end?
Thinking the same thing myself haha
What’s the name of this stuff?
@@leonhilburn4296 It’s called Tianeptine
I was addicted to tianeptine. I used to order it from a “research” lab online. Was easy and cheap. The withdrawals were absolutely hellish. Worse than opioids alone.
Kratom helped me kick it. Kratom is amazing in moderation.
I was addicted to morphine and methadone for 8 years. Thank God for kratom
@@Crystal-mv2xz Yes for kratom! It should never be made illegal, it should be sold in every Walmart for 18 and up or something. Big pharma lobbys against it, because it's an all natural ground up leaf, and works better usually than any for of pharmaceutical pain management
@@herehere3139 Just be careful with kratom. I was on it for around a year and it absolutely destroyed my memory. I thought it was helping me with some issues I was having, and for a time it was. But after a while my anxiety was absolutely peaking and I was also having significant liver problems. I don't think that kratom should be made illegal, but I think that people should know that it's not all sunshine and daisies.
Morphine i found incredibly addictive it made me understand opiate addicts
I'm so glad you said "in moderation" before I got the treatment I needed for pain kratom was literally the only thing I had to get me out of bed barely even that wasn't enough but I got to the point where I was on Max dose multiple times a day and everyone says you can't withdrawal on it but let me tell you when you're a sick as I was it's very possible withdrawal on it might not be a severe but it's very noticeable felt like I got hit by a car for 2 days when I decided to cut down my dosage wouldn't touch this shit now
Anything can be abused. Banning it won’t do any good. It’s called self accountability and responsibility.
Also people with histories of drug abuse tend to have mental health issues, ptsd, etc. Therapy and medicine help addicts. Self accountability changes when your brain does. There is science behind chemical dependency, not just “ don’t do it” “have self control” lol.
@@sammarie8923 I've been addicted, and it was mostly due to my OCD. Self-control and discipline are the most important factors and is why I can responsibly use substances now. I don't like the scapegoat of "It's brain chemistry". Can't is the cancer of doing. There's always a way.
@@sammarie8923 this is true, but my brain changed when i started taking self accountability. there an old saying *i can't think myself into right acting, but i can act myself into right thinking*
Banning it just creates a supply vaccum waiting to be filled by black markets
Banning this will . Nobody is going out of their way to get this.
Why do I have the feeling that the 'addict' is an actor?
Could be, not sure
Exactly my thought
Man bro i feel you
This shit is real bro, stop playing. It’s marketed as tea and people are losing their lives
Ahhh come on! Everything is real on the internet! Lol
1:27 - Brandon was a recovering opioid addict who then decided to take some strange pills he found at a gas station based on his own internet research. He then gets addicted to THOSE and doesn't realize how bad it is for 5 months? Brandon seems like he'll take anything that is addictive and then later insist he had no idea.
Let’s go Brandon !!! 🇺🇸
Great example of how misinformation is so toxic.
Dude was just trying to find some relief with something he thought was much safer and had less abuse potential than traditional opioids, he didn’t ask for it.
@@dukeofdink9963 He should try living life without drugs. That might help.
@@brandonduet7771 but this video is about tianeptine, not kratom
@Ayethere M8 you’re dumbing things down, situations like these are usually more complex than it seems. No doubt he was probably looking for some relief, a lot of people are suffering and it isn’t a simple task to fix that.
And as for him simply looking it up and figuring out it was a no go, you realize how much conflicting/misinformation is out there on the internet.
Life ain’t that simple, maybe you’re young, but if you think if everyone just did some internet drug research before they got involved and then they’d magically steer clear of some sort of addiction, whether it be a more obscure drug or something like this that has a lot of conflicting information about it, you have a lot to learn.
Just let people do their heroin. In a safe environment it's their choice.
I agree...
agree
Agreed
Same sentiment. End the war on drugs already!
Agree end the war on drugs because come on now 🏌️
Omg. You mean the same gas station that sells alcohol! How dare they! Lol
And cigarettes!
Lol
Lol...
Withdrawals are incomprehensible. Stay away from pharmaceuticals.
respect is one of those lessons that finds you when it's time to learn.
Kratom withdrawals are brutal. Believe me been there.
@@yankees29 they definitely suck but no where near as bad as heroin.
There are no withdrawals from Kratom. If you're using that much kratom to get withdrawal you're an idiot. Kratom is an EXCELLENT supplement to get off opiates.
@@Lordhumongus Try getting off Dilaudid, Klonopin, and Soma. Had to be hospitalized in a medical coma. Body wouldn't stop seizing.
If you're taking 120 pills a day, you don't need 5 months to realize there's a problem. This guy was experienced with opioids so he must have known as soon as he started increasing his doses.
They also sell alcohol, caffeine and tobacco at gas stations. Do you plan to make low-quality scare pieces about those gas station horrors?
My only question is...where can I find it? You know to make sure to avoid that station
Also this absolutely screams " paid for by big pharma" lmfao. They should run this ad right beside all the ban vaping ads that way we understand who's paying for these segments and why
I didn't know about this. Thanks for making it publicly known. Now make a video on how to sell and refine it.
Im sure the kids that watched this don't know how.
As a kid, I can confirm
Pointless to refine it
Good old opioid electric body jerks that's horrible lol I had that when I was an addict! Ohh that's so good to say, WHEN I WAS AN ADDICT! so hard but now I'm free!
Good for you!!! I’m still working on it.
Congratulations!!
body jerks? never had em
Did u ever get the cold chills going up ur spine? I used 2 and no one else I've came across who was using or used 2 use opioids knows what I'm talking about. Guess withdrawl is different 4 everyone.
I was a heroin IV user and never really got them. But I've been in methadone treatment for 8 months and I get them from that sometimes.
son : dad tell me your childhood memories
dad : so I was at this gas station....
If ur taking bottles at a time ur the darn problem. Ur the same as the guy who eats 12 burgers in an hour n then says McDonald's got u addicted to that mccheese. U increased ur usage so fast all u proved to me was ur addiction began as mental because u increased ur usage to dangerous levels faster than ur body could become physically addicted.
This man likely could’ve become addicted to Flintstone Vitamins.
I do Kratom I left Alabama when they made it illegal within a few months everyone turned to this it’s horrible and I wouldn’t ever try it again. Alabama should have left kratom alone and just got rid of this.
Kratom is harmless. Anybody who says you can die from a kratom overdose is lying. I take ALOT of kratom and buy it in bulk
@@josevilla8586 its alot harder to od on kratom bc you have to consume such a massive quantity of this disgusting ass powder lol
@@josevilla8586 not entirely harmless, definitely very addictive, but much safer than most painkillers out there
Didn't Alabama just make Phenibut illegal as well?
Love Alabama..!!!
There are no drugs or supplements that turn people into addicts. You see, humanity has been making the mistake of thinking the drugs, the plants and the chemicals involved are to be blamed. You think the people who grow, produce and sell these things are to be blamed. But underneath it all, you know it's true, it's within each person to be accountable to their actions at the end of the day.
Addiction isn’t the only terrible thing that comes from buying substances from dealers… dealers cut their products all of the time with deadly shit you’d never know about, or aftermarket pills and before you know it important, intelligent, and loved people are dying from a very sad disease. This is only one example of the multitude of terrifying things that can happen in addiction in general. Accountability is absolutely the first step in recovery, but addiction and the journey to becoming an addict is so much more complicated than you or others seem to think it is. Kids grow up around this kind of stuff and it’s really not uncommon for young kids to just think doing hard drugs by the time they’re in middle school is normal.. because it is their normal… Every circumstance is different. Just educate yourself.
@@amanduhh7980 addiction is NOT a disease. It's a choice. Calling it a disease is so counterproductive to recovery. It allows the person to not.take full responsibility and puts blame on the "disease". When you first start abusing the drug, you make the decision to become the addict.
I agree with everyone here. It’s a choice to first take a drug, tho under the influence of said drug, depending on how much of a cocktail one has chosen to take, they end up on a benderrrrr a straight benderrrr where they don’t know wtf they’re doing at all the whole time. Then ya wake up one day and boom it all hits ya cuz you’re not on the drugs any more. So yes, anyone can become an addict, and it’s a choice to inhale a drug (but also this varies like who are they with, how much are they taking, how conscious of their decisions to take more drugs while on certain drugs already, are they aware of?) I agreee accountability is so important. Nothing to be ashamed of if you’re recovering btw! And yes taking drugs in the first place is objectively not good. Ya never know what’ll happen on drugs. Of course this depends like some drugs ppl have more self control. Sometimes ppl go straight crazy and do objectively horrible things to people and then to themselves.
I think saying addiction is a disease is like a metaphor. Drugs ruin the body and mind like a disease. People choose to take those drugs one day, people can choose not to take those drugs for the rest of their lives after that. Accountability of the present and all that before is so helpful in recovery. Awareness is great and hard to see while someone is under the influence
So while it is a choice to take drugs. Once certain drugs are taken they can take over the brain and body unless there’s some sort of intervention whether with the self or treatment or a buddy. It’s so hard to quit for some people which sux. Drugs ruin the people who chose to take them if they continue to take them until they die.
the war on drugs has gone really well , lets make more stuff illegal.
Maybe harm reduction is a good place to start .
i think this video is propaganda
When he took more than the recommended dose and that wasn't enough, is all he should have needed to know this was not the supplement for him. Most people are not going to go to the crazy extreme that he did. This is a lesson for no one.
You sound like the typical internet Karen I'd expect to be here saying this lol
The reporter after this: 👃🏻💊💊💊
Lol!
Im a recovering fent addict. Kratom is some weak stuff. I got some when I initially tried to quit sinoloan oxy’s. It didn’t help me much at all.
The fent and carfent is just to damn strong.
Even a normal 15mg Percocet didn’t hardly dent my wd’s.
Anyway, I’m on suboxone now and I’m doing a lot better.
8 years clean and sober here It’s possible. It’s great to see you are doing so much better
@@detestor420 thank you. A day at a time
SO proud of you both , Jordan and " FLAMES " , keep fighting the ' good fight " ( your life )
YOU ARE WORTH IT !!!!! 👍
@@jolimixx4212 thank you. That’s very kind of you
@@inflameswetrust2194 yes one day at a time. Sometimes one hour at a time
Asking an addict who already suffers from lack of self control to explain why a certain compound is non sustainable for its potential therapeutic properties is absolutely baffling to me…🙄🤦♂️🤦♂️
I used to do heroin and fentanyl. Tianeptine the kratom helps me get clean. These are less addict options than the doctor you can do at home. Doctors can't help you if you can't help you
How did you get tianeptine cuz it's practically impossible to find and get in the states
Yep you will never get or be clean unless you yourself truly want it!
*One year ago today I took this stuff and went into a coma and was on life support in the hospital for 2 weeks,I ended up having septis of the blood,my brain seized up and I've had kidney surgeries throughout this year,i woke up in the hospital bed gasping for air when I woke up out of the coma and seen my family praying over me,I had to get off this stuff and it was the most painful thing ever,it lasted a month,but i understood it had to hurt to heal, scariest thing ever!*
THIS IS JUST YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHY ALL DRUGS SHOULD BE LEGAL!
Okey mum 😔
@@austinteis3158 Your mom shoots heroin like me and wants all drugs to finally be fucking legal? That’s cool
@@austinteis3158 did “mum” get blasted off her ass today too? I smoked some crazy ass DMT, waited an hour or so, and then shot me some fentadope along with the tiny lil bit of BTH I had left..(GOD BLESS PORTLAND!!!!)
Did mummy do that too?
120 pills a day is on the user. He was already addicted. Just couldn't find it. Turned to that. Addicted users will try anything. Cough medicine, etc. In order to get relief.
Yeah that's insane. I like a good opioid buzz, but just to get stuff done. I don't have to feel that way all the time, and of that I am very thankful.
I use tianeptine in moderation and it is a fantastic nootropic. Helps me tremendously with motivation
Hi Jonathan " my names matt im A recovering dope attic" ----passes microphone to next aoda classmate" :D
So does the hero in side you!
@@mdddd1234 "hi Matt, we are glad you are here! "
Where can you buy it online?
Helps me tremendously with my motivation... to buy and use more and more tianeptine. LOL
A reporter that orders drugs online, she's going places.
I'm buying it
😂
Lmao
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂, Lmfao
Bet
You just exploded this upon so many addicts that are out here looking for it now
This guy is ridiculous. I was addicted to heroin years ago and have done Tianeptine occasionally. Sorry, but begging the Federal Government to protect us from ourselves is stupid.
Yeah, that was a bit much.
If your an addict already, changing substance does nothing but make you addicted to something new.
Harm reduction.. if someone is addicted to something, might as well be the lesser of the evil.. the hard shit will kill you, kratom wont..
@@chicofromph33nix64 brother, I know that all too well. I agree, but my point is to be aware, the solution is to become free from all substances. Kratom was good for me until it wasn't anymore. Then I had to go through the pain of withdrawals finally. Your words are correcrt, harm reduction is great.
People need to step off the hard stuff in my opinion, more often than not. Otherwise, they go stone cold sober and get bored then relapse. Addiction is spiritual in nature, people who love themselves do not put themselves in harms way.
@@gregfrench1254 I agree with you 110%... I was mainly referring to the part where you said,"if you're an addict already".. but I see where you're coming from...
So what gas stations they sell this at? So uh I can stay away I mean ... 🥴
I hate when they do shit like this. Kratom is a great thing and absolutely has alot of great propertys.
She's talking about tianeptine, not kratom
Yes, but kids can buy it and become opioid addicts from it. So you can't have this on store shelves. And most are using Kratom when they don't have heroin or other opioids. Very few have quit with Kratom. And even they haven't quit, they just take Kratom rather than heroin
@@littlelarry2912 where's the problem? Don't people drink and smoke?
@@littlelarry2912 There is no NEED for people to quit Kratom basically, Because most take kratom in place of pain management opioids, and take kratom because it's a ground up leaf and works to keep chronic pain from injuries or disc disease etc away
@@herehere3139 No need to quit Kratom ? If an opioid addict doesn't have Kratom, they are right back to the opioids that they started on. It's the same addiction.
What do these people do when they cannot buy Kratom ? Example, if FDA would ban it from store shelves. Or States decide they want to ban it, to prevent kids and adults from buying and becoming opioid dependent. Kratom is now part of drug testing for CDL drivers at UPS , FED EX, etc.... I'm sure the rest of corporate america will be jumping on board.
Just my opinion, but seem like good reasons why people would need to quit taking kratom. So they can live a normal life, keep a job, family, go on vacations, move to areas that don't sell Kratom, etc..
If this dude ate all those pills how dangerous could they possibly be
100 pills at once?You d be fucking dead
Think about the Chalk in the Liver the damage to the stomach lining 🙊 I'm flabbergasted that's a lot of pills Bruh 121 a day...🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
@@coldclassic2521 😂 the chalk is not the issue
What gas stations carry it, this way I know where to avoid.
I bet that chick owns the company that produces it. Smart advertising my lady, Smart advertising...
It's funny how people talk about him getting it at a gas station, like it's absolutely absurd something so addictive would be so easily atattainable.
No regards to the millions of lives alcohol ruins (and ends). Just as addictive and the withdrawals often kill.
Been through both. Alcohol detox is more dangerous but opiate detox is more miserable. It’s hard to explain unless you’ve been through it
I don't understand how you can buy it because it's not approved in the USA as a medicine OR supplement, so it's illegal to sell as a supplement.
And now everyone wants it!
No they don’t, it’s just a news story. Probably to distract from the painkillers which are1000x worse being sold by doctors
I met my heroin dealer at the gas station a few times. Cool story Brandon. Beat it.
Obviously this guy has addiction issues whatever he uses but when you need to take Ten pills of any Drug to get normal something is wrong.
This is some seriously low quality sensationalist journalism.
they have those in gas stations where i live, they’re called “ZaZas”
Thank you ....you smart person you just put me up on game I been seeing it in the store and didn't know what it was
@@philipjordan6789 That’s because you were ignorant and it fitting given your frame of mind. Now, what we have here is a case of unearned wisdom.
@@ETAisNOW …
@@Will-is3od …
Zaza is bud where I come from
People drown in pools... LETS BAN POOLS!!!
Dear god your right! We need to ban anything that can hurt anyone!
People die from obesity! Let's bann food!!!!
They did in Memphis Tennessee . No public pools . We had more public pools per capita than any city in the world.
Lol who’s here to get the name so they can go find some 😂😂😂
Now I gotta try it.
Yea do you know the proper name?
But she didn’t let him answer the question “what made you stop”
I’m curious?
Wow. Can’t believe I’ve never heard of this... and here I thought I knew everything... Lol. 😎
I took this drug for 3 months as an addict looking for a legal opioid high, I have a few videos on my youtube about this powerful synthetic opioid that should be banned (it does get u pretty damn high). It's sad to see this dude didn't know his dose :( I highly doubt this dude died from respiratory depression like u would from a traditional opioid, this dude probs died from cardiac arrhythmias given its similarities in structure to a tca. I know this from personal experience with trying to abuse this drug, you hit a dose where you just know that it's doing harm to ur heart (heart racing and just an overall bad experience which is exactly why I quit). I didn't feel any of these negative side effects the first time I got high because the dose was too low to have the deadly side effects, but once you go any higher than 600mg you definitely run into trouble.
This kid obviously wasn't careful enough with his doses and he overdosed and died ultimately not from respiratory depression but from a heart arrhythmia that was brought on because he thought he could take 1+ grams like people did online which is impossible to survive if you have zero tolerance people!
It's just that Quetiapine you've probably heard of that same family
@@trevoidc9859 who died???
Well... now ya do, lol!
Well, there are known knowns and also unknown knowns. You have both. Unknowns unknowns are what you are struggling with.
If it's anything like gas station weed, I'm scared! 😨
Its not near as bad as that Spice stuff, that shit is like meth on steroids.
@@backwoodsjunkie08 yea I watched my buddy have a seizure from it years ago. Then I got really sick from it one night. And not long after, I couldn't even smoke regular weed anymore.. it started giving me racing thoughts, paranoia and anxiety..
@@backwoodsjunkie08 📠📠📠
@@backwoodsjunkie08 BROO i remember when "spice" first hit florida when i was around like 12, it was big down there , they called it K2 in florida , but we were so such young boys and kids we called stupidly called it "Fake' weed, it wasnt until i was older i realized, when reminiscing on the high, it was a Upper like no other! heart pounding, sweats, it was basically pharmaceutical meth! i was doing spice since 12 years old but florida education really never seen anything like it, so we didnt know what to call it, i would never touch that stuff again, very sad ,
@@elijahmelendez9864 k2 was super popular brand of spice I remember. Same time frame you're talking about
This was somebody that abused it If you abuse anything more than likely it's gonna be bad.... This is why good things that help people get ruined Because somebody did not have respect for something that is powerful...... This stuff does work But you better have respect Or it's going to feel like Mike Tyson came to see you And I don't mean to come hang out and sign autographs and take a pictures... Be safe 🙏.....
That’s funny mike Tyson lol
Having respect for something powerful isn't even the case. An addict can't help abusing something that gives them pleasure. This is what's wrong. You're the type to tell an addict, "why can't you stop using you dont have the willpower?" It doesn't work like that.
Actually, this "gas station heroin" is just a regular antidepressant commonly prescribed to old person in my country. In my country it's abused less than 0.1% of the time. The issue isn't the molecule, it's the auto-medication.
Once again it looks like the problem is the addict not the drug.
Just let the people do what they want to do. Making it illegal just makes things much worse.
Educate the public more is my answer and make drug addiction funding more of a purity than arresting people for drugs.
Im so glad I grew up in San Francisco. I was able to become hooked on REAL drugs, like heroin.
Lol thats funny but true ! As a forner heroin addict, I can say, pure heroin is less harmful than any drug out there that is legal or prescribed. Nicotine and alcohol are the dirtiest yet they are the most legal!! Someone wants us all to be sick.
@@lauraestes9304 agreed
@@lauraestes9304 nah heroin is probably made in a dirty ass garage and is a strong semi synthetic opioid.
@@lauraestes9304 hi 🙋🏻♀️ I’m 53 and I’m in that generation where years ago (in my 30’s), drs were prescribing mass quantities of opioid pain pills, but they didn’t want me or anyone else that suffered from chronic widespread pain to know that all these pills were addictive. What makes it bad now is, they make you choose between benzos and pain meds. It’s the people that have so much pain that sometimes have to find their relief because drs can’t help anymore. They also label pain patients as junkies and that’s not even fair!! I’ve always said that I WISH Big Pharma could make these pills non addictive, but then they wouldn’t get those big paydays! They don’t want anyone getting off of these drugs because they wouldn’t have a job! It infuriates me and I’ll NEVER judge anyone that goes to the streets to find drugs to get them out of pain. What I mean by “pain” is, the actual pain from a damaged spine, etc and the “pain” that stems from addiction.
Years ago, people could go to their primary care Dr and get pain meds, but now you have to go to a pain clinic. The pain clinics don’t want to increase pain medication. They take the dosage down because they’re afraid of losing their license. They realize that people become tolerant to it. You would think that they would want to better care for the patient. This is why people turn to the streets for drugs! It’s a horrible situation that we can thank pain clinics for 🙄 They treat grown adults like trash! My heart breaks for anyone that’s addicted to opioids or has been addicted. Hopefully one day there will be a drug for chronic pain that works but isn’t addictive.
when I was watching I was like
"aw I live in east Texas, prob couldn't find this if I tried"
Reporter- "I just ordered it online"
"bitch, you a genius. I didn't even think ab that!"
If you take more then the recommended dose of anything, you're risking your life
Depends on how much of the recommended dosage. Twice as much aspirin and someone like me will be fine. And anyone takes 5 times as much cannabis edibles as recommended, & they're gonna be fine.
. . .well ;) at least they're definitely not gonna die
Lol thanks for the info. Now I’m going to see if I can find some.
Imagine going into treatment with all the junkies and alcoholics and checking in for diet pills
Believe it or not most people are not there for the usual suspects when i was there, there was a guy there who couldn't wash his hands he was too afraid
@@philg594 those types of people 100% for sure do not go into the same rehabilitation center as drug addicts.
@@anonymousher0 oh but they do when I was there it was mainly for drugs and alcohol 🍺 but there was severe depression and there’s gambling 🎰 also gaming addiction lol so they say at least there’s people addicted to rehab hoping if there’s a thing out there that atleast one person can get addicted to I feel like it’s happened lol 2021 for the win 🤔😂💭
It’s funny you say that about diet pills. I called a rehab facility to get off tia and they had never heard of it lol.
I would always feel bad for the kids that were there for weed bc I knew once they heard everyone’s war stories they probably end up trying dope
They always try to be so overdramatic it's cringe is what it is
Lol bro it took you five months to realize you shouldn’t be taking 100 pills a day 😂😂
Cool! Thanks for letting me know about this, had no idea! Omw to the G-ststion right now!
Why he kept all the bottles tho 🤣 I think the guy lying on camera was an actor 😂😂
Were not taking over the world today pinky.....today, we're gonna try to rob this gas station
don’t blame the gas station because you’re an addict … This whole video the blame is put on the gas station
This seems like a terrible drug. Not in terms of the negative consequences associated with it, just doesn’t really seem fun.
What about the people who responsibly use it?
Just like etizolam. I got screwed buy the new ban. Prepare yourself and taper... When shit starts hitting the news it will get banned soon
@@backwoodsjunkie08 Exactly. The "War on Drugs" is Bull S**t. It is a war on PEOPLE. And addiction is a disease; not a character defect. You would think, by now, we would have come up with a _solid_ plan of action for those who have been consumed by it.
Quit calling kratom heroin.
People gonma try kratom and think heroin is no big deal, then they are gonna die.
Awesome.where can i buy it.?
the gas station
Bought mine from an online store
On Ig
Mycohenry 3 3
You can even buy it online! Lmao she advertising
Did he really think it was responsible to take that much of anything? Vitamins in that amount would have killed him. I've had this and it's pretty good stuff.. I didn't find it addictive.
The moral here is not to ban everything, but how about you simply dont abuse things? If we keep making things illegal, pretty soon they'll be nothing to enjoy.
Thank God you were able to recovery❤️💚🙏
So why your God never stop him from doing it from the first place.
@@familyfirst9517 not God's job to keep people from acting stupid it's called free will 🤦
He died
Make everything legal
@@abbeyroad1985 I think they eventually will. It is just a matter of time.
That's crazy I never even heard that stuff before That's really wild.
Ok, the acting on this sucks. You can tell that the interview was rehearsed and both the anchor and the druggie sucked at it.
I'm going try n find this.
wahhhhh i fell off the wagon cuz i bought some pills at the store.
come on, we all know you were gonna grab some booze anyway.
or anything else.
i'm on methadone maintenance, and as long as you take a reasonable amount (let's say, no more than one bottle a day), you can actually enjoy the subtle high & relaxation without ever waking up with withdrawals the next day. I can easily get high for a few days without having any consequences when I run out or decide to take a break.
ps. keep in mind, the reason I don't suffer consequences is because the methadone prevents any withdrawals from the tianeptine & also significantly dampens any cravings I might have for the tianeptine when I run out or decide to take a break from using it.
That's interesting... makes sense with the methadone. But please, please be careful when you stop the methadone! Tianeptine is incredibly addictive, and the withdrawals are a holy terror! It's subjective, affecting different people differently, but for many the withdrawals are very severe, second only to long-term benzo use withdrawals. I've read/watched many people in the grip of the withdrawals, and they often say it's more miserable than fent withdrawals!
Squares wanna ban everything fun.
She has him show the bottles so we know what to get. 😂❤
I’ve never heard of this! Scary!
Plot twist lady in the red shirt reporting on this is actually high as shit on tnpt
I've heard of this before.. did not know it was actually hooking people
yeah before i ever tried it i read the "horror" stories... who woulda knew couple years later i'd have written one of my own.
@@rickpickle Sorry to hear man hope your doing good.
Many people die from Alcohol addiction but it's still legal.
Tianeptine is a fun drug but it can only be used recreationally for 1-2 days then it stops working. My younger bro is into RCs and that’s how I’ve tried it on a few occasions. It did have me in a full standing nod the first time I took it. I took a lot.
@Ty Hart I would guess yes
So the stuff you took "Tianeptine" is that the pill she's talking about from the video the TNFT? And if it is the same thing where do you find some I bought kratom and it doesn't work the best so I'd like to try what there saying I. The video so is the Tianeptine the TNFT just the real name for it?
@@Alileverything which vendor Kratom did you try?
@@Alileverything If kratom didnt work for you, you took a very weak strain. Try red mang dae. Or how ever it's spelled
Don’t do it guys…I spend $600 a paycheck for pure tianeptine. The withdrawals are HORRIBLE!! Not to mention the high it amazing for a bit, but eventually you’re redosing once every hour and you are no longer getting high, you’re just taking it to not be sick. I’m up to 550mg-600mg every 1-2 hours…
I hope you can the habit man. 🙏🏼
@@alfonzo9289 Thanks man, me too.
Don't tell people not to do it when you're showing that you neglected the fact you have addictive tendencies. Not everyone does, and therefore, shouldn't be treated in the same fashion as you. Everyone is different.
@@supersophisticated9943 Go ahead, try it. Be my guest. It only takes a week of taking it to get addicted, but you know everything.
End the war on drugs. Let’s maybe start helping addicts and putting more energy into treatment centers/ care instead of focusing on dumb shit like this.
Kryptagon is significantly better
?
Hey what is kryptagon? Do you know where I can order that to try it? And is it stronger or better than kratom?
Because banning drugs makes them go away.
Funny how tianeptine isnt even an opiate lol
No it is an opioid receptor agonist though
It an opioid
Isnt it like a shitty version of tramadol? Kinda acts as an opioid agonist/ snri?