I love it but I kinda chuckled when I saw the M&P grips. I dunno what it is, such a simple solution to a major problem with this kind of weapon, but the idea someone in a board meeting went "I GOT IT!", went and snagged a couple M&P frames and duct taped them to the bottom of this shotgun and blew everyone's mind, like... I'm not dogging the solution, it works perfectly, but just the mere fact execs approved such a "keep it simple, stupid" solution is awesome
It may be that the problem that the pistol grips SW was solving was risking a lawsuit by Keltec. Without denying that the SW 12 is of superior quality and is an advancement on the KSG's design, it obviously "borrowed" the essential aspects of the KSG design and SW would need to thread carefully and introduce enough differences to avoid a patent infringement lawsuit. One thing that SW needs to be honest about is the Load Assist feature. As far as I know, nobody who owns a shotgun except possibly those who own other shotgun bullpups such as the KSG or DP 12 wishes they had the MP 12's Load Assist feature. The reason that is there is that while the MP 12 has a lot going for it, such as its high round loading capacity, the most frustrating thing with the MP 12 is that actually loading it is a slow and often frustrating process, especially once you mount a red dot. The Load Assists makes it a little easier but it still a slow process to perform. Its silly to list this as a "feature" in the ad. It also makes it really easy to remove gunshot rounds, so perhaps if they really wanted to list it as a feature, they could have called it "Easy Remove" or "Easy Unload." Having said that, it is a great shotgun. This has a high capacity for shells, especially if you use mini shells, so if easy loading shells, especially, tactically reloading, isn't a must have feature, this is a great choice.
Small form factor... Check Multiple shell sizes... Check Full length barrel... Check Comfy and customisable grip... Check Rails for the tacticool goodies... Check Holds twelve 3" shells... Wait what? This is an awesome weapon. Im going to be asking santa for one of these bad boys.
Nice update on the KSG concept. Definitely going to grab one. I have a KSG, which is absolutely reliable and a monster house gun. Nice touches on this version.
@@sairabanokazmi1150 I guess you mean tactical reloads. It's not difficult to load, but fast tactical reloads are awkward because it loads from below and far back where the action is. I don't think there is anything particularly unsafe about loading or reloading it. But that's part of the point of the high capacity. In a real world situation like a home invasion or the like, if you need more than you have loaded in those tubes, you likely have bigger problems than that firearm was likely to solve. In any case, practice and training are key, especially with a firearm that has features that substantially vary from typical. The safety issue that most will point out is how close the hand can be to the muzzle, and the possibility of the hand slipping off while operating the slide and ending up in front of the muzzle. That has happened. Most will recommend some kind of forearm grip or hand-stop. But even then, nothing replaces practice and training. I also like my KSG because it fits in my Harley hard saddlebag.
@@FernandoChaves thanks for the info. I'd like to elaborate on the safety issue, they said it's pretty hard to reload (tactically) without pointing the muzzle in the air, which some ranges are really strict about. It's not a problem on a private farm or range, but it's a problem in public ranges.
@@sairabanokazmi1150 Pointing the muzzle in the air to reload? That sounds even more awkward to me. I'm not sure why they are saying they do that or feel it is more difficult to reload muzzle down. Everybody you know says that? Everybody you know has a KSG?
I really hope to see other color options coming soon with these! I'd love an fde one, I plan on buying one & having it coated soon if nothing else but I'm trying to wait it out and see what's to come with it
I was looking at a Mossberg 590S to shoot shorties (or combinations) but a new challenger has entered the arena. And I like S&W already (not that Mossberg is bad fanboys lol...)
I dont know I’m a big fan of S&W M&P series firearms. I own 4 different ones but for my shotgun I went with the Keltec KSG. This thing just fell like a toy gun because it was almost completely polymer build. It is the one M&P I think I’m not a fan of. I have an M&P Shield Plus, an M&P 15-22, an M&P 15 and an M&P FPC (bad ass gun!). But ya I would never buy the M&P 10 because there are way better .308’s out there like Daniel Defense. But I would rock the M&P 10mm Performance Center that gun is my next more pricey pick up. It already comes with Night Vision sights which is sick, I love fiber optics and night viz sights.
I’m looking for a semi-auto in the Bull-pump design that might improve the reliability of the actual “pump action”. Remove that HARD pull with good follow ups would be nice and I believe missing in these basic designs.
Prepare For The worst While Praying For Peace..Be Healed with the M&P as Your Shield.. In the Bible Its written 365 times.. "FEAR NOT" one for every day of the Year.. "FEAR IS NOT OF GOD"
So not excited about this. Handled the KelTec and never liked the feel of having my hand inches from the muzzle of a shotgun. If they wanted a good shotty to copy, use the berreta 1301 as a template.
You Americans are so afraid for your safety 🤣 last 20 seconds was such a white American propaganda. Anyways what’s the price of this in dollars and send this to Pakistan we like trying your products out 😜
I love it but I kinda chuckled when I saw the M&P grips. I dunno what it is, such a simple solution to a major problem with this kind of weapon, but the idea someone in a board meeting went "I GOT IT!", went and snagged a couple M&P frames and duct taped them to the bottom of this shotgun and blew everyone's mind, like... I'm not dogging the solution, it works perfectly, but just the mere fact execs approved such a "keep it simple, stupid" solution is awesome
Agreed. It seems like companies are obsessed with making things more complicated. Glad to see the guys at Smith & Wesson kept it simple.
It may be that the problem that the pistol grips SW was solving was risking a lawsuit by Keltec. Without denying that the SW 12 is of superior quality and is an advancement on the KSG's design, it obviously "borrowed" the essential aspects of the KSG design and SW would need to thread carefully and introduce enough differences to avoid a patent infringement lawsuit.
One thing that SW needs to be honest about is the Load Assist feature. As far as I know, nobody who owns a shotgun except possibly those who own other shotgun bullpups such as the KSG or DP 12 wishes they had the MP 12's Load Assist feature. The reason that is there is that while the MP 12 has a lot going for it, such as its high round loading capacity, the most frustrating thing with the MP 12 is that actually loading it is a slow and often frustrating process, especially once you mount a red dot. The Load Assists makes it a little easier but it still a slow process to perform. Its silly to list this as a "feature" in the ad. It also makes it really easy to remove gunshot rounds, so perhaps if they really wanted to list it as a feature, they could have called it "Easy Remove" or "Easy Unload."
Having said that, it is a great shotgun. This has a high capacity for shells, especially if you use mini shells, so if easy loading shells, especially, tactically reloading, isn't a must have feature, this is a great choice.
wonderful! A modern tactical style that takes advantage of the M & P grip system and bullpup shotgun. The shotgun you are looking for is born.
Small form factor... Check
Multiple shell sizes... Check
Full length barrel... Check
Comfy and customisable grip... Check
Rails for the tacticool goodies... Check
Holds twelve 3" shells... Wait what?
This is an awesome weapon. Im going to be asking santa for one of these bad boys.
I would love to get my hands on one of these.
Great admiration for Smith and Wesson!!
YOU SHOULD DEVELOP A MAGAZINE FEED, GAS OPERATED VERSION. THEN I'M ALL IN !!!!!
Make something like the USAS-12
Between this and the FPC, S&W really coming after Kel Tec!
Sick!!! Savage looking, need that!!! 🤤
I've fallen in love. 😍
Literally same. 😍😍🥴
Ok S&W now you have my attention. 💯
Smith & Wesson siempre lo mejor. Saludos.
Nice update on the KSG concept. Definitely going to grab one. I have a KSG, which is absolutely reliable and a monster house gun. Nice touches on this version.
Hey, everyone I know says that the KSG is difficult to load safely, and generally. Could you elaborate on that? I don't own one yet.
@@sairabanokazmi1150 I guess you mean tactical reloads. It's not difficult to load, but fast tactical reloads are awkward because it loads from below and far back where the action is. I don't think there is anything particularly unsafe about loading or reloading it. But that's part of the point of the high capacity. In a real world situation like a home invasion or the like, if you need more than you have loaded in those tubes, you likely have bigger problems than that firearm was likely to solve. In any case, practice and training are key, especially with a firearm that has features that substantially vary from typical. The safety issue that most will point out is how close the hand can be to the muzzle, and the possibility of the hand slipping off while operating the slide and ending up in front of the muzzle. That has happened. Most will recommend some kind of forearm grip or hand-stop. But even then, nothing replaces practice and training. I also like my KSG because it fits in my Harley hard saddlebag.
@@FernandoChaves thanks for the info. I'd like to elaborate on the safety issue, they said it's pretty hard to reload (tactically) without pointing the muzzle in the air, which some ranges are really strict about.
It's not a problem on a private farm or range, but it's a problem in public ranges.
@@sairabanokazmi1150 Pointing the muzzle in the air to reload? That sounds even more awkward to me. I'm not sure why they are saying they do that or feel it is more difficult to reload muzzle down. Everybody you know says that? Everybody you know has a KSG?
@@FernandoChaves not literally everyone. Most KSG owners that I know. They all agree it's a good gun.
It's a pump action, why didn't you make it semi auto?
That’s Awesome that’s going to be my next gun…definitely
Beautiful design! Love the message in the commercial 👌
Very, Very Nice. Smooth...
Amen S&W !!
Definitely on my To Buy list
I really hope to see other color options coming soon with these! I'd love an fde one, I plan on buying one & having it coated soon if nothing else but I'm trying to wait it out and see what's to come with it
So basically just a KelTec KSG remake?
Looks cool
I like it but I’ll keep the Utas love not having to switch barrels. Me and my friends play roulette with magnum rounds.
Interesting the video doesn’t show the gun being fired. Why?
But how fast can you reload it?
I’ll wait for the MP 5.7 carbine
Wish I could afford one!!
Facts.
That was the same thing I’m thinking. This is an amazing design. I love it. But for the time being, I’ll be sticking to my Mossberg 500
@Steve Chavarria MSRP: $ 1165.00
Awesome!
I was looking at a Mossberg 590S to shoot shorties (or combinations) but a new challenger has entered the arena.
And I like S&W already (not that Mossberg is bad fanboys lol...)
I will have one of these. Hopefully I can get the money saved up with this economy
I'll take two!
I want one!!
Best commercial ever. 🤷🏾♂️
👀Wow!!
I want one!🙏🏿
How much?
@@user-de4jk8vj4c 🖐🏿
Wow, awesome!
That's not a bad price for a high tech weapon like this..
Thanks for the info!👊🏿
Is this gun Colorado compliant???
Yeah ok, I'll princely buy one. I see you're having a super rebate thing going on right now. Not sure if this is included but I'll check.
Is this left-hand friendly?
yes...completely ambidextrous
@@SmithAndWessonInc Will you get hit in the face by ejecting shells if you are left-handed?
@@markadams6836 Bottom eject
My goodness I would love to shoot this piece 😍😍😍
Unloaded rifles in the safe. For shame. Nifty shotgun idea though. Been carrying a m&p pistol for over 8 years now. They are top notch.
Nice
You should make something like the ACR
Should have made it a mag fed semi auto
I'm buying this M&P bullpup it's sick!
I dont know I’m a big fan of S&W M&P series firearms. I own 4 different ones but for my shotgun I went with the Keltec KSG. This thing just fell like a toy gun because it was almost completely polymer build. It is the one M&P I think I’m not a fan of. I have an M&P Shield Plus, an M&P 15-22, an M&P 15 and an M&P FPC (bad ass gun!). But ya I would never buy the M&P 10 because there are way better .308’s out there like Daniel Defense. But I would rock the M&P 10mm Performance Center that gun is my next more pricey pick up. It already comes with Night Vision sights which is sick, I love fiber optics and night viz sights.
Make a 10mm pistol like ya did in 90s
It's cool!
i love it
S&W sure is doing a lot of keltec like things… 🤔
Looks like the dp12 from standard manufacturing
thumbs up
UH YOU CAN MIX AND MATCH SHELLS?
oh me oh my
Please send me one of those grips. I'll run it on my AR-15 in the NC State Championship this weekend.
What's the MSRP?
$1,100 I think
Keep away from trouble 🤣
I love how they stole the idea from kaltec and made it better😂😂😂
I love it and now need it. It is not a want at this point.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
So you basically slapped an M&P grip on a Kel Tec KSG design and called it innovation???
How much for that safe at the end of the video? lol
I’m looking for a semi-auto in the Bull-pump design that might improve the reliability of the actual “pump action”. Remove that HARD pull with good follow ups would be nice and I believe missing in these basic designs.
😯😯😯
Rather get a black aces fd12 bullpup
💯🇺🇲💯
Looks like a KSG copy.
How many people here raving about this abortion are on Smith and Wesson's pay roll. 😅😅🤣
My ksg is flattered
I already have a kel tec ksg and it works great!
Good for you bud
Осечек много?
so how much we talking. also think about a semi model
Guys that work at the range recommend staying away from this. I’ll check out V2.
I don’t like when they use the futuristic music and sound effects, makes it super gimmicky
Prepare For The worst While Praying For Peace..Be Healed with the M&P as Your Shield.. In the Bible Its written 365 times.. "FEAR NOT" one for every day of the Year.. "FEAR IS NOT OF GOD"
So not excited about this. Handled the KelTec and never liked the feel of having my hand inches from the muzzle of a shotgun. If they wanted a good shotty to copy, use the berreta 1301 as a template.
I've been begging for the M&P12 for years
This looks like some video game/hollyweird toy.
Huge disappointment
Is this strictly military or are you gonna sell them to edgy teenagers?
You Americans are so afraid for your safety 🤣 last 20 seconds was such a white American propaganda. Anyways what’s the price of this in dollars and send this to Pakistan we like trying your products out 😜
America is almost 50% white-get over it Commie.
@@drice847 you love precision rifles! Hmm
Why was he looking at the child like he’s about to use the 12 on him?