The Feud That Divided Christian Hip Hop Forever (Christian Music EXPOSED)

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  • @RuslanKD
    @RuslanKD  Год назад +52

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    • @adamcjohnson777
      @adamcjohnson777 Год назад +1

      Hey yo what shoes are you wearing, them joints look fire

    • @rebeckahaubertin3637
      @rebeckahaubertin3637 Год назад

      nice jams Sir

    • @nikduke23
      @nikduke23 Год назад

      You know, I started to grab onto some of Kieran's music, and I'm slightly ashamed to say that I slowed down on listening to his music because of the collaboration with Marcus Rogers.
      That brought up a bit of a red flag because of my knowledge of what Marcus Rogers believes about the Trinity. However, I don't know what Keiran believes. So, I completely understand where he's coming from in regards to being careful about who you listen to in the Christian music collective. But I may have jumped the gun. (What is his stance?) I liked Marcus's Heavenly Places album but had to let his music go based on his beliefs about who Jesus is.
      I also agree with you, Ruslan, I think a mixture is beneficial when it comes to Theology and Lifestyle. I love Shai Linne, but looking back I think making a song about Charles Spurgeon may have been unnecessary.
      I'm also still a bit concerned with the difference collaboration pieces that have been done with former Christian artists that now denounce the faith. Such as Mogli the Iceberg and Cephas w/Eshon Burgundy and Andy Mineo with Joseph Solomon. What are your thoughts on this?

    • @madeintx79
      @madeintx79 Год назад

      I rock with Kieran. Is there a full interview out?

    • @fiddykandawire7230
      @fiddykandawire7230 Год назад

      Didn't except Kieran the light to be here 😂👏It's amazing

  • @e.g.o_officialzm
    @e.g.o_officialzm Год назад +514

    IM NOT CALLED TO BE A RAPPER , I RAP ABOUT WHAT IM CALLED TO DO
    -Kieran the Light

    • @Roccofan
      @Roccofan Год назад +17

      I love that statement and I’m an atheist.

    • @frankharley5387
      @frankharley5387 Год назад +6

      And you are anointed to do it.

    • @CristanioPeweyyy
      @CristanioPeweyyy Год назад +9

      @@Roccofan God exists.

    • @Roccofan
      @Roccofan Год назад +2

      @@CristanioPeweyyy ok.

    • @raymondsmith2040
      @raymondsmith2040 Год назад +9

      @CristanioPeweyyy Fax! But it's not enough to just believe God exists. We must accept Jesus His only Son as our Lord and Savior.

  • @justanotherwatchman9532
    @justanotherwatchman9532 Год назад +690

    Bro I feel like KB & Bizzle are not getting enough credit for having that balance!

  • @shanajennings9273
    @shanajennings9273 Год назад +86

    I really feel like Hulvey is a new young upcoming artist who really balances out everything in his music.

  • @SamsClub427
    @SamsClub427 Год назад +434

    We’re going to need a documentary on this

  • @deem3326
    @deem3326 Год назад +40

    Ruslan you forgot about Bizzle... He's going strong for Christ... Bizzle's my guy! Bizzle's always been about Christ from when he started doing Christian music.

  • @BausikFilmCo
    @BausikFilmCo Год назад +234

    Great content here from someone who isn’t as immersed in the community as I would like to be. I can say this as a father of three, I find value in Christian music that preaches, and I find value in music that is absent from negativity. I think both have their place. Does every song need to mention Jesus in order for the community to accept it as Christian music? I’m just happy to finally have music that sounds good that isn’t positioning my kid’s minds, even if it doesn’t preach in every song.

    • @BausikFilmCo
      @BausikFilmCo Год назад +16

      * poisoning my kid’s minds

    • @merdithblake
      @merdithblake Год назад +3

      I googled Phoenix Mosheh and they decimated this argument cool video though Merry Christmas you all

    • @NeverAmountToZero
      @NeverAmountToZero Год назад +6

      He just want content obviously it shouldn’t matter especially with the state of hip hop everything is negative and sinfully good why we can’t respect and build people up instead of forcing them to talk abt what you want them to

    • @melliemel32
      @melliemel32 Год назад

      I appreciate this desire to have good music for your babies…but music that’s positive but doesn’t mention God is just positive music. If it says Christmas music, we shouldn’t have to guess it’s Christian. I don’t think it has to give a theological lesson in each one, but we should know what people are talking about. GOD bless you sir! Keep being a good dad! 🙏🏽🙏🏽✝️

    • @boneyardproductions
      @boneyardproductions Год назад

      U can’t do christan rap it’s of this world!!! 💯

  • @moelynch
    @moelynch Год назад +153

    Maaaan, CHH was bubbling from 2007 to about 2013 and could’ve did something huge from coast to coast but never really blew. TheBreax, Sivion, Braille, Todd Bangz, Shai Linne, Corey Red & Precise, Theory Hazit, Scribbling Idiots, Cookbook & Uno Mas and Holy Culture Radio was my era. You couldn’t tell me CHH wasn’t about to blow. Those were the days. Thank God for Apple Music and other streaming platforms where I can go back and listen to those albums today. ✊🏾💯

    • @Johnlilly252
      @Johnlilly252 Год назад +7

      CHH fell off imo you won’t catch me playing new CHH music frl.

    • @moelynch
      @moelynch Год назад +5

      @@Johnlilly252 I haven’t listened to a lot of new stuff. I try to stay up to date but it’s just not the same.

    • @steezyk5265
      @steezyk5265 Год назад +13

      @Johnlilly252 How old are you? As a twenty-something, I have the exact opposite opinion. Started listening to CHH around 2012, and although some artists were dope and had bars, the music itself was not up to par with the secular music imo. For me, it’s only recently (2020ish) that CHH has become good enough that I can actually stop listening to secular rap altogether, because it’s just as good if not better and there are enough artists putting out good stuff.

    • @futurekillerful
      @futurekillerful Год назад +10

      @@steezyk5265 i agree...i think the issue is people assume CHH is just reach records and they don't explore like that...but even if we just go reach records..i think their quality has been top notch lately.

    • @edoss5143
      @edoss5143 Год назад +4

      I can go back to the late 90's with CHH or HolyHipHop.

  • @pintswithaquinas
    @pintswithaquinas Год назад +16

    Mate, your thumbnails are amazing and video quality are amazing! Super impressed.

    • @Marysboy90
      @Marysboy90 Год назад

      Pints with Aquinas being here is amazing! Let's go Matt!

  • @BlaqueTyrone
    @BlaqueTyrone Год назад +52

    It is always interesting to me when the new generation of CHH has NO IDEA about the previous generations and history of CHH. I'm not mad about it, but I do wonder how this happens. Ruslan, thanks for providing bro with a Cliff Notes history lesson.

    • @TremayneManson
      @TremayneManson Год назад +3

      Agreed. It’s not like it’s ancient history. 20-30 years old and the pioneers are still around

    • @immanuelhernandez2515
      @immanuelhernandez2515 Год назад

      Bro that’s what I thought too. I understand to be biblical but also the history of CHH can’t be forgotten.

    • @dmarioisajerk
      @dmarioisajerk Год назад +1

      Its a rap thing. Even secular rap artists dont care to learn who came before them. No other genre of music is disrespectful to its history and roots.

  • @EddieBsTakeout
    @EddieBsTakeout Год назад +70

    I love this mans perspective on not being to influenced by anything one thing but just doing what God has called you to do. I'm coming to that realization now as an aspiring therapist. Being a Christian in the mental health field is by itself a minefield. So I feel like I shouldn't have to be on the defensive with other Christians who wanna critique every little thing I or others like myself do.

  • @justinleon4130
    @justinleon4130 Год назад +22

    Where does the Grand father Toby Mac fall in this category! What about west coast native T Bone?

  • @GeekDevotions
    @GeekDevotions Год назад +30

    Not gonna lie man, I'd love to see you do a mini documentary of CHH. Take it all the way back to the OGs of CHH like Pete McSweet, Stephen Wiley, PID (Preachers in Disguise), D-Boy, and T-Bone then track their influence to modern CHH. I think a lot of folks would benefit from learning both from the Older Generation and the Younger

  • @Ayje76
    @Ayje76 Год назад +28

    Horrible and sad to hear that there is division amongst CHH. It always blows my mind that we have ONE GOD and ONE Jesus and ONE Holy Spirit, yet The CHH scene reminds me more of the Pharisees and the Sadducees VS Gentile. Great Podcast!!

    • @MrABNGoat
      @MrABNGoat Год назад +4

      There is division everywhere money and power/influence is involved.

    • @johnmichaelhucks2571
      @johnmichaelhucks2571 Год назад +3

      The division is the same within our churches too.

    • @nukeboy4939
      @nukeboy4939 6 месяцев назад

      It is sad.I listen to Christian rap from 95 -2002, left God and came back into the fold. This is all shocking and foreign to me to CHH rappers beefing I'm like you serious? God's people beefing? Crazy.

  • @honesttruth986
    @honesttruth986 Год назад +88

    I went from being a porn addict, to,
    sharing the gospel with a porn actress, who,
    was criticized for being low status,
    by the same onlyFans who treat her so lavish
    🔥

    • @frankm6546
      @frankm6546 Год назад +2

      I’m confused.

    • @javierorta6302
      @javierorta6302 Год назад +1

      It's not what we need

    • @ODD_ps374
      @ODD_ps374 Год назад +3

      It's lyrics to his rap clip on the vid...

    • @javierorta6302
      @javierorta6302 Год назад

      @@ODD_ps374 not what we need brother let's talk about the Lord and only him

    • @frankm6546
      @frankm6546 Год назад +11

      @@javierorta6302 can’t disagree with you more, brother. We should and I would say have to talk about how Jesus has changed our lives or our witness means nothing

  • @Lsmoe
    @Lsmoe Год назад +13

    RKD Gr8t video. I am a 61yr old ex street and radio DJ. This goes even further back. There was a label called Grape Tree. With artist like Prime Minister, Brothers Grim, T Bone , Pettide .I wanted to start the first 24/7 CHH radio station. I went to a local Christian station several time. They ran me out of there . Then months later. Used my idea, I was beyond upset. My wife asked me , Was it about me ? Or! was it about GOD !! all I could do was sit there and be quite. I just wanted to be a part of that last place for Hip Hop to go. I also did security for Kingdom Promotions here in Orlando. We and every one from 11SIX, Social Club Misfits, to name a few. The world and these kids need this music BADLEY !! God Bless Would love to chop it up with you one day.

  • @WandertheBlueWizard
    @WandertheBlueWizard Год назад +18

    We need a longer episode with the full story! Would love to hear about where the different groups fell into this story (WLAK, humble beast, lamp mode, etc) and even songs like Same Team.
    Thanks for what you do Ruskin!

  • @TechnoGlowStick
    @TechnoGlowStick Год назад +19

    I remember those days. Everyone was SO HARD on Christian rappers who didn't specifically say Jesus in their music, or didn't find some way to make it blatantly obvious that they were talking about God. Man! Those were the 2012 conspiracy theory years! Those were the WORST YEARS TO BE A MUSIC ARTIST (even if you weren't producing Christian music).
    Edit: Sorry. In my original post I accidentally said, "2021," but I actually meant 2012 instead. So I made a small edit.

    • @Illthallion
      @Illthallion Год назад

      Ruslan has been vocal about how he is hard on rappers who don't say Jesus in thier music (ie: NF)

    • @tyron302
      @tyron302 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah. And then it went political. Lolol😅

  • @luigi7ism
    @luigi7ism Год назад +10

    Bro the buckle sound effect in the intro 🍒
    everything God is doing with the channel is so inspiring and constantly challenging my perspective. BLESS GOD 🫡

  • @karenkrieg1141
    @karenkrieg1141 Год назад +8

    KB,Bizzle, Dayton, Hulvey, MTM Isaiah, and Kieran they all keep the name of Jesus and His word in their music.

  • @psychomichaelofficial303
    @psychomichaelofficial303 Год назад +23

    In middle school, I got into chh very hard! Artists like Thi'sl, Shai Linne, Flame, KB, Sho Baraka, Bizzle, Lecrae, Datin, etc were the top Chh Artist in my book

  • @williss1192
    @williss1192 Год назад +13

    For some reason, it reminded me of this song "This Christian hip hop politics is so competitive, you'd figure we love each other like relatives." from Bryan Trejo - Captivity of Comparison

  • @moriahmcgill3687
    @moriahmcgill3687 Год назад +10

    Kieran is fire! Like he doesn’t seem to try. He literally ministers through his testimony. And it’s dynamic, relatable and convincing! AMAZING!!

  • @burgersbiblesaeh849
    @burgersbiblesaeh849 Год назад +20

    I could see you Marcus and some others having a conversation about this in a longer format. Like Sam said a documentary. I like how Marcus talked about this on his channel as well. It would make for some good content and probably agree with Marcus more then disagree on it. I know you both have good points on the Christian rap game.

  • @JayPalOfficial
    @JayPalOfficial Год назад +45

    I remember listening to artists like Joseph Solomon, Montell Fish and Gabby Callwood. All three of them made some of the great bangers in the CHH community. Now it's not been the same since 2019. Both Solomon and Callwood recently renounced their Christian faith. Montell is shifting his focus from Christian acoustic to more secular music. Still walking with God privately though.

    • @LovelyKelly645
      @LovelyKelly645 Год назад +3

      Gabby Callwood denounced her faith? Omg no way! I loved her music

    • @JayPalOfficial
      @JayPalOfficial Год назад

      @@LovelyKelly645 I know its sad news.

    • @calebgyamfi2203
      @calebgyamfi2203 Год назад +2

      When did callwood denounce her faith on what platform? Am shocked and sad .

    • @misterhr3232
      @misterhr3232 Год назад +2

      I didn't know Joseph Solomon renounced his faith?

    • @JayPalOfficial
      @JayPalOfficial Год назад

      @@misterhr3232 He did.

  • @c.covington244
    @c.covington244 Год назад +41

    The very first Christian rapper I heard was T-Bone in 93. Then came the Grape Tree Records movement from Texas (too many to name). Now we have too many border line believers who won't even quote scriptures when they rap...

    • @antmansales
      @antmansales Год назад +1

      T bone and idol kingz and lil rascal

    • @c.covington244
      @c.covington244 Год назад +1

      @@antmansales don't forget the line " I had to drop the C. A. L. Cuz a rascal is a sinner and a sinner burns in hell..."

    • @antmansales
      @antmansales Год назад +1

      @@c.covington244 Gospel Gamgstaz was a fav for me too. My dad was huge into CHH so we saw CM a few times and Lecrae was on your one of those when he was promoting His Real Talk album. Idol Kingz “Turn it off” was so powerful back then too

    • @c.covington244
      @c.covington244 Год назад

      I loved Antonious and Mr. Real also. Grapetree had a nice roster

    • @didactic02
      @didactic02 Год назад

      Yea this is a mess now, I pulled out of the genre

  • @folkertdejong6974
    @folkertdejong6974 Год назад +7

    I find it interesting that ‘rapping critically about race’ and other political issues (like Lecrae is doing) is considered ‘more wordly’.

  • @camthejock
    @camthejock Год назад +10

    Dang I remember when I did not used to like Ruslan’s stuff but man has that changed! I grew up going to HeavenFest and seeing lecrae, mineo, minor, Tripplee, etc.
    great conversation fellas

  • @seandaugherty8024
    @seandaugherty8024 Год назад +6

    Let’s not forget GRITS.

  • @edoss5143
    @edoss5143 Год назад +8

    You forgot T Bone on the 90's. 😊🤣

  • @Proklame
    @Proklame Год назад +14

    Early in my Christian walk, my favorite hip-hop, artists were Shai Linne, Timothy Brindle and Stephen Levite. Plus, anyone connected with lamp mode records. However, the first artists I heard as a Christian was the cross movement. After nearly 20 years of being saved, I’ve learned how to enjoy music for what it is. myself as an artist as well, I have learned to be more diverse, but yet still biblical and gospel centered, but not overly preachy. l definitely dig your style Ruslan! For sure, bro. Look out for Coramdeo EP much love!

    • @raymondsmith2040
      @raymondsmith2040 Год назад +2

      What is "overly preachy" though? Legit asking

    • @Unicysis
      @Unicysis 6 месяцев назад

      @@raymondsmith2040Too formal

  • @jasonhanson9895
    @jasonhanson9895 Год назад +14

    As a pastor I’ve experienced this divide among Christians. It’s very disheartening to say the least. Bless yall

  • @jullz617
    @jullz617 Год назад +24

    The collab we never knew we needed 🔥🔥🙏🏾

  • @brialtemple
    @brialtemple Год назад +5

    Our lives should exemplify Christ. Using our gifts for God means nothing without repentance, serving God in real life, and true transformation 🙏🏾

  • @kingsonbooka303
    @kingsonbooka303 Год назад +9

    Ruslan I love how much Knowledge you have on Christian Rap we need more a whole back story of how we’re here

  • @brookstonlemay2005
    @brookstonlemay2005 Год назад +21

    Lecrae is one of the greatest to do it….consistency throughout the years and helped me on my journey with Christ 🎚️

    • @tratzz919
      @tratzz919 9 месяцев назад +3

      Lecrae has changed in my opinion over the years, some of the things I hear and see of him has made me question.
      His views on LGBTQ etc are questionable but this is not just him but many Christian artists.
      I don't understand when the Bible is very clear on the subject.
      If Christians truely believe the Bible is the absolute truth then they would be clear when it comes to these issues .

    • @PMPMindset2024
      @PMPMindset2024 3 месяца назад +1

      Lecrae put out great music, but he and his crew went to P-Diddy parties. That's all I need to know. Wrote him off. Hope he doesn't get wrapped up in kiddie charges.

  • @AlexanderPaganiMinistries
    @AlexanderPaganiMinistries Год назад +11

    I can’t believe he never heard of cross movement…. Oh, the horror!!!!!!!!!

    • @FredaL7
      @FredaL7 Год назад

      Lol I was quite shocked as well

    • @bowsermario3563
      @bowsermario3563 4 месяца назад

      The knowledge of Christian hip hop is regional so I don't blame them I watched the whole video last night...

    • @kingdomassettv
      @kingdomassettv 4 дня назад

      A bit shocked too

  • @jonathancabrera4296
    @jonathancabrera4296 Год назад +15

    We can all pick and choose what kind of Christian rap we like and which artists to listen to, as long as we're not fighting over our choices and creating disunity among the body of Christ.

  • @nicolewilliams3638
    @nicolewilliams3638 Год назад +5

    God over Money is still solid and going strong....Bizzle, Datin, Jared Sanders, Bumps, AI the anomaly, Selah, has so much Truth Music.

  • @SamsClub427
    @SamsClub427 Год назад +17

    Thank you Ruslan! Needed to hear the history of this

  • @grahamwall4956
    @grahamwall4956 Год назад +5

    Ruslan, I'm sure you didn't forget about Syntax Records when talking about the West Coast scene? "Fashion Expo" is perhaps the best Christian hip-hop compilation ever. Would like to listen through "When theBREAX Sold Out" sometime, but dang it's hard to find! ;)

  • @djinkentertainment
    @djinkentertainment Год назад +20

    Well fortunately we still have some that still preach the gospel in the christian rap space. People like ASAP, KB, Shai Linne, Bizzle, Propaganda and a few others.

    • @ballzofury1
      @ballzofury1 Год назад +2

      Don't forget Da Truth! The name says it all :)!

    • @djinkentertainment
      @djinkentertainment Год назад +2

      @@ballzofury1 that's true 🙂 and propaganda lol

    • @JekDrummerTime
      @JekDrummerTime Год назад +4

      Is Humble Beast still a thing? My favorite group is Beautiful Eulogy but haven't heard anything from them in like 6 yrs.

    • @djinkentertainment
      @djinkentertainment Год назад +1

      @@JekDrummerTime I haven't heard anything from them in a long time either. But I remember the group.

    • @PreciousEkhayeme
      @PreciousEkhayeme Год назад +3

      Timothy Brindle and Stephen the Levite too

  • @jamalholder5224
    @jamalholder5224 Год назад +9

    Ok on Cross movement was Ambassador,Tru Life,Phanatik,
    Enoch and some others they were the originators and the five mentioned were the most popular, Out of that camp you had Flame,Da Truth and Le Crae .LeCrae became popular with the song "Jesus Music" and the 116 Clique exploded with their album 16 letters when they broke down the epistles of Paul in lyrical form,(116 Clique had Trip Lee,This'l, Shailinne (before he shifted to Lampmode),Pro(Derek Minor),Sho Baraka (He left reach records after his Lions and Liars album),Tedashi , and later added KB,C-lite (Andy Mineo ) and some others to the Mix. Da Truth and Ambassador fell into some Fidelity issues I think around the time that the documentary truth about Hip Hop Series with Craig Lewis came out and that's when Xist Music came out which signed DaTruth and Ambassador when they came back from their hiatus. On the other side beside who Ruslan mentioned were also G.R.I.T.S(Grammatical Revolution In the Spirit),Gospel Gangstaz, T-Bone and the list goes on these guys were heavy hitters who brought an alternative to the Gangsta Rap that was popular in the day like (Wu Tang Clan ,Biggie Smalls(Notorious B.I.G) and tupac) ,You even had BBJ who sounded similar to Notorious B.I.G but more Christian lol this bringing back memories cause I was hooked on both secular rap and Christian rap but was won over to Christian Rap as I got older and hung out with my I.S/IV C.F (Interschool /Inter Varsity Christian Fellow ship) friends . any way there is so much to talk too but the aforementioned Truth about Hip Hop documentary really put a bad light on all rap secular and Christian and those that survived the controversy that doc brought are who we here from these days cause after that more rappers went to seminaries and decided tp both preach and rap like Ambassador,Da Truth ,Triplee,Braille,Canton Jones and others.

    • @PeterKalu
      @PeterKalu Год назад

      Excellent breakdown. I liked old CMR stuff, with Da Truth, GRITS, etc.

  • @baslealtewodros98
    @baslealtewodros98 Год назад +8

    Be great to have someone like Braille on the show Ruslan. Great video

  • @alexismonge4496
    @alexismonge4496 Год назад +5

    As someone who grew up on the streets I like what Kieran is doing. Growing up you had two options either be from the hood or get beat up and when your in that hood you have to boldly say where your from or of back down and didn’t says what you represent you’ll get some consequences coming your way.
    Same way about Christian and Christian rap we should boldly proclaim the gospel not backing down.
    There’s always going to be that new kid on the block(Kieran) to slap everyone up and remember who they serve or where they’re from just how God did in Kings and Chronicles

  • @HevICue
    @HevICue Год назад +3

    I was there when Cross Movement walled Cruz Cordero out. I didn't understand it at the time, but saw the division. The head of my crew pulled me aside and tried to explain to me without actually telling. I considered it a blessing to get this dude's number in hopes to break bread or Collab, but he told me to lose Cruz's number. I exiled from my crew only a few months later. The unity preached just wasn't there. It sucks cause I walked away from it all together and never looked back. Now I feel like I'm sitting on gifts that I have no idea how to get out.

  • @kadmielvalcin
    @kadmielvalcin Год назад +4

    Love Kieran's attitude. Grace be with him. I've shared some of my story before. Former CHH Artist. The camp/infighting is a minor part of why I stopped. Blessings to other artist going forth. I choose to support.

  • @TheeGreg
    @TheeGreg Год назад +9

    Too Soon is FIRE my guy! You’ve easily become one of my fav content creators this year. Thanks for being a big inspiration and help in my walk with Christ. 2023 is going to be huge for you bro

  • @nukreaturemusic
    @nukreaturemusic Год назад +3

    Good discussion and history lesson. I was listening to Doonie from Dallas,TX back in the day… His early Christian music had me like “Christian rap is going this HARD?!” 😂

  • @lwazimandilivematiwane3044
    @lwazimandilivematiwane3044 Год назад +5

    I respect historians and people who can recall events with dates attached to their knoweldge! Its a skill I certainly struggle with!

  • @Revdrum
    @Revdrum Год назад +10

    The Shai Linne v Lecrae of it all

  • @untameddisciple7819
    @untameddisciple7819 Год назад +6

    The origins of Gospel Rap go deeper than the point of origin referenced in the video but I understand why he abridged it for times sake

  • @java8381
    @java8381 Год назад +1

    I wonder how these "Christian rappers" would view or even accept "Christian" rappers from more traditional Christian backgrounds such as Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic, Byzantine, ect.?

  • @micahbanda7524
    @micahbanda7524 Год назад +4

    I hope everyone has their post notifications on for this channel, we dont get this these kind of solid conversations & collabs like this anywhere
    Thanks Ruslan !!!

  • @DrummerDanny76
    @DrummerDanny76 Год назад +6

    I'm glad you spoke about The Cross Movement. They were, are my favorite Christian hip-hop group

  • @mixit313
    @mixit313 Год назад +3

    Before Cross Movement & Tunnel Rats, there was SFC, Grits, Gotee Camp, Freedom of Soul, Mike E & others.

  • @poeticfigher
    @poeticfigher Год назад +17

    Heard him on tiktok and I appreciate his lyrics and style.

  • @jeffpatrick9800
    @jeffpatrick9800 Год назад +4

    Amen Ruslan! Love what you said here at 6:36. We definitely need both. Even though we're not of the world we are still in it, so there's still that competition with culture to stay relevant with the trends and proclaim the gospel at the same time..

  • @JonTorrence
    @JonTorrence Год назад +1

    Very interesting. I can honestly say I wasn’t fully aware of these divides as a listener! I’ve seen the shifts, but I didn’t know about how deep the lines went. Great conversation.

  • @oxenbrandmusic
    @oxenbrandmusic Год назад +2

    Felt the end comment! That's exactly why we started doing what we did. Didn't see anyone else doing it the same way and got tired of seeing the same circles flocking together.

  • @Miami100DegreeRadio
    @Miami100DegreeRadio Год назад +3

    I was way more then just the cross movement and tunnel rats, Gospel gangsters put west coast on the map, and you had Midwest like grapetree Lil raskull etc.. I was on many of those tours as a Radio DJ

  • @luchadorjones5256
    @luchadorjones5256 Год назад +6

    This is the second time you’ve brought this up in videos, and as someone who kind of came up through this stuff, it’s wild to me that these folks don’t know the history. I’m not saying it’s wrong or their view lesser, just really interesting.

  • @cameroncobbin
    @cameroncobbin Год назад +2

    I make Christian rap but I hate the promotional side of the music industry so I just make my music unto God and share it as God gives me opportunity ... but sometimes I feel as if I am shortchanging God because I could share His Word on a much larger platform if I could get past not wanting to deal with shady industry personalities

  • @KristianCheyenne413
    @KristianCheyenne413 Год назад +4

    This Guy is AWESOME and I can see him and BIZZLE doing a song together

  • @asha378aa
    @asha378aa Год назад +1

    If your going to do anything for God you will come up against this kind of stuff.. but remember God is love.. it ain't easy working for God in this world

  • @Will313J
    @Will313J Год назад +4

    I have a problem with people who don't know their history. The things they had to endure for you to do what you do. People don't even acknowledge or know about A1-Swift or Grapetree Records.

  • @0NoOne1nParticular
    @0NoOne1nParticular Год назад +2

    hey its finally the 16th guys! is Spotify the only platform to listen to Ruslans new song Too Soon on? ive been anxious!

  • @LiberatedSound
    @LiberatedSound Год назад +2

    This was a good convo bro. Sounds like we started rapping around the same time. It’s definitely been a ride for sure!

  • @falconqueen6787
    @falconqueen6787 Год назад +1

    My husband and I just found his music!! We downloaded it all and love it!! Thank you!

  • @jeremiahrosales6377
    @jeremiahrosales6377 Год назад +5

    Dude I was hoping you would interview keiran he absolutely puts on for Christ . Houston is behind him for sure.

  • @jasongoodson7035
    @jasongoodson7035 Год назад +3

    "If you're good at something, don't do it for free." -The Joker

  • @dejacreacts4964
    @dejacreacts4964 Год назад +1

    I got introduced to CHH during the era where Cross Movement, shai linne, Timothy Brindle, Stephen The Levite etc were the frontmen and when Lecrae came onto the scene. I think it fell off when it started sounding almost exactly like the secular counterpart and it became less Christ centered. It went from lyrical theology to basically the current state of hip hop.

  • @angelrestoiii9030
    @angelrestoiii9030 Год назад +3

    I would say since I have been saved since 2003. I lived through all the eras in the growth of CHH. It was definitely on that reformed theology wave I say from maybe like 2000 - 2007 which is when we had the CMR/RR/Lampmode and Christcentric. Lecrae philosophy changed in 2010 and you can tell the difference between Rebel and Rehab. Read Lecrae's book to give you better understanding. Yeah Lecrae took off in the early 2010's by that time reformed theology went underground and the trap/drill sound started taking off. I did see that it went to the other side of the pendulum where it went to rap about everyday life. As artist I would say know your audience and know how to spread God's word.

  • @Peculiarities
    @Peculiarities Год назад +2

    I appreciated Ruslan’s rundown, it brought me back because I lived in Philly and went to churches where cross movement and lamp mode had roots. Then I went cold.
    I think the divide has a lot to do with the context around Trump’s presidency and this American and white-dominated Christian culture that had folks asking important questions about what it means to believe the Gospel and what America has done to it.

  • @Crossfire2003
    @Crossfire2003 Год назад +1

    Great video!
    I wonder why Ruslan mentioned Tunnel Rats for the west coast, but not the Gospel Gangstaz.
    Aren't Gospel Gangstaz important enough?
    (I've been listening to Gospel Gangstaz since 1998, but I've never heard about Tunnel Rats until, about 3 years ago).

  • @RYZMinistries
    @RYZMinistries Год назад +1

    Kieran is chosen along with others who aren’t “known” in this Chrisitan rap history ligo and cliques. God has men who have a heart of David and ain’t with anything else but preaching the truth of His Word, this is why Kieran is being elevated because he won’t be like Saul and let the platform get him out of character r

  • @ianwallbrech
    @ianwallbrech Год назад +7

    Lack of historical appreciation is a problem across all Hip Hop. Ruslan needs to get Sup the Chemist on for a conversation.

  • @DMaster81
    @DMaster81 Год назад +3

    This is by no means a shot at Lecrae, love Crae and his music but I’ve always felt that CHH became too too top heavy and dominated by Lecrae and Reach in the mid 2010s so that when Lecrae had his moment where he wanted to go less “preachy” the entire space followed suit. Not that Lecrae was wrong it was his lane but it seemed to pull the entire space along with him.

    • @elteezy176
      @elteezy176 Год назад

      you right Crea was in his own lane and not his fault other artists followed after him. Less preachy in his raps maybe but everytime you look him up in interviews he always reps Christ.

  • @Carlos-kr8gc
    @Carlos-kr8gc Год назад +4

    What about Gospel Gangstas? They really raise the level of Christian rap...

    • @ROMEDIGGA
      @ROMEDIGGA Месяц назад

      @@Carlos-kr8gc why can't the homies hear me...

  • @thesupertropoliscollection8065
    @thesupertropoliscollection8065 6 месяцев назад

    I was part of that movement - I held the first unity conference event back in 2011 to address the beef that everyone tried to act like wasn’t the case - the major split was 116 and Canton Jones camp - I toured with both and saw a lot of the divide first hand - Tre9 eventually took my conference and ran with it but I was the founder of the Holy Hip Hop Unity Conference

  • @logannestman
    @logannestman Год назад +10

    Kieran is one of the best! 🔥

  • @alecb3332
    @alecb3332 Год назад +1

    The gospel heavy stuff is why I'm in ministry. I miss it. I'm hungry and thirsty for it.

  • @BeWiseLegette
    @BeWiseLegette Год назад +8

    I knew the history, and I remember it being accepted because I was non-denominational. I stopped Christian rapping and rapping years ago. Too many gate keepers. Lecrae took heat because he starting mention the systemic problems Black people were facing.

    • @jasoncoomer1226
      @jasoncoomer1226 Год назад +2

      Because its supposed to be in praise of God not his political narrative.

  • @JLara6
    @JLara6 Год назад +4

    Lecrae flipped the switch from what he was doing to become what the world wanted and ultimately what he wanted and was noticiable believe Andy mineo saw it and did the same thing and is sad bc mineo was fire

    • @NoCappingSportsLegend
      @NoCappingSportsLegend Год назад +1

      Same thing I said and because they were the front runners many followed behind them and chh began to lose its value

  • @GoodRapHipHop
    @GoodRapHipHop Год назад

    Thank you, Ruslan, for sharing some light about the history of CHH. It would be great if someone did a documentary on this topic. Anyhow, I support both of you! Glory to God!

  • @RealCaptainAwesome
    @RealCaptainAwesome Год назад +8

    My biggest problem in the church is people who root their faith in tradition and quibbling over non salvation issues.
    I'm not a big fan of hip hop nor am i a fan of Calvinism, but we can still love each other and discuss our perspectives in that way.

  • @emptytombprod
    @emptytombprod Год назад +3

    Kieran.... sheeshhh I'm glad you got him on bro!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @davidyup3338
    @davidyup3338 10 дней назад

    "Sometimes knowing too much can taint things" hehe reminds me of a certain tree....

  • @mildmayheadless5217
    @mildmayheadless5217 Год назад +2

    I have NEVER heard anyone mention Ahred or Future Shock in an interview about CCH. Props to Ruslan on that.

  • @KasiyahanCollective
    @KasiyahanCollective Год назад +1

    Isn't it interesting that the "lifestyle" scene that is causing people to fall and not even talk about God, we still find necessary to use for "balance" when theology driven rap is what is bringing people closer to God. Maybe it's as simple as, are we glorifying God or ourselves?

  • @erikhopkins9488
    @erikhopkins9488 Год назад +1

    it's only a few artists that claim to be christian. some say "conscious" and some say "clean" but who's saying CHRISTIAN?

  • @Yizal
    @Yizal Год назад +2

    Thanks Brothers keep making hot music for the Body of Christ!
    Yah👑Bless

  • @ickukln
    @ickukln Год назад +2

    When it came to Christian music Deliverance (Christian Metal) was first, and I was not a believer. After Metal came TBone then evolved into Lecrae and I was bumping it in Cali, in my lowered 3inch Saturn 3 Door coupe with “ paid n full mine n yours” on top of windshield also two 10 in JL Audios and techniques amp bumping “Jesus music.” Then CHH went somewhere else. I like where Kieran is going. Be bless.

  • @scoredkoi
    @scoredkoi Год назад +6

    The Tunnel Rats!!!! Pigeon John!!!! Daaaaang I remember that ehoooooooole time

    • @djstibs
      @djstibs 5 месяцев назад

      Thank you. We appreciate you and honor to be a part of your journey

  • @MrHarawa
    @MrHarawa Год назад +6

    Hi Ruslan
    Like always am blessed by you and the content on your channel. I would like to make a request that invite the Crossmovent especially that @Theambassador who name dropped you on several podcast like the Trackstarz, his interview with Sho Baraka, I think he would willing to come your show. Since you have referenced the history of CHH on several occasions, and they were a big part it.
    It would be nice to hear their legacy especially from a big RUclips platform like yours. I think young artist can learn from him/them as you tickle their successes, failures and nuance of the old and new CHH movement.
    And If possible find members of the Tunnel Rats to do the same.
    Stay blessed
    One love from the big Zed Zambia🇿🇲🇿🇲🇿🇲🇿🇲

  • @borne1
    @borne1 Год назад +2

    Before I every heard Tunnel Rats or Cross Movements, there was Gospel Gangster's and the Grits.

  • @calebb.6993
    @calebb.6993 Год назад +1

    It's great to find content with someone talking about groups I'm familiar with! I'm from the East coast but found The Tunnel Rats music (Tunnel Vison record) before I even heard of The Cross Movement. Up until that point the only music I had featuring what was considered Christian rap was Grits Grammatical Revolution. Knowdaverbs was my guy though! As for The Trz, I know Propaganda still holdin it down but it would be nice to get a Underground Rise Vol. 2 from the group to close that chapter.

  • @dead-zo-nd
    @dead-zo-nd Год назад +2

    8:12 bruh literally drinking liquid death 😂😂

  • @DJ_ByPDipper
    @DJ_ByPDipper Год назад +2

    Kieran The Light keep doing what you are doing and let God continue to perfect it!

  • @kingdommentality1
    @kingdommentality1 Год назад +1

    This is a beautiful conversation!