I worked at a sleep clinic and nope they would not allow it. They need to be able to see what your breathing patterns, oxygen levels, eye movements, etc to get an accurate idea of what your regular sleep patterns look like to make in informed diagnosis. Alcohol would affect your regular sleeping patterns making the results inaccurate (it can affect your REM sleep). So disappointed in this guy, but he was giving me weird vibes for awhile :/
Totally unrelated, but can we highlight how precious it is that Dr. Honda tucked his wife into bed before returning to us. Such a gem! I love their love.
He was drunk at a sleep study? I’m pretty sure that would invalidate the test results, and if you show up drunk I would imagine they send your happy butt home.
Thank you please!!! Who would allow a sleep study with a drunk person. That’s a lie He was in full awareness of his actions. She stopped having sex with him so he went elsewhere. No amount of double talk can negate this
12:55 Jeremy and Sarah Ann!! **Although they deny doing anything while he was still with his Laura- she saw that his location was at Sarah Ann’s after he went to the bar with friends.
I don't know why but the perception I have for stephen is that he literally has no clue who he is or what he really wants/ feels/ thinks about things. Everything he seems to say and do seems SO BEYOND FAKE to me. His whole demeanor expressions everything. It feels like acting. And I dont think he is doing this maliciously but I just think he's just that kind of person at this point I don't know. I believe nothing that comes out of his mouth
so steven immediately venmo'ed her meaning he had the money and was having her pay for things the whole time as he's cheating on her essentially, acting like it's too much to buy a 5$ bag of flowers like???
I think sometimes when u dont have money ur neervous about spending? liek he jsut got fired lets say he has $1000 in his bank account. Obviosuly he has money but its not much, so he can pay her back but also if she offers to help he'd still take it. That's how I understood it
To share: My general psychology professor had a way of creating a sex-based example every lecture. He seemed pretty harmless otherwise, but it was notable. The talk of Stephen bring sex into every conversation made me think of it.
I just finished watching the previous vid and this drops! Thank you Dr Kirk I have learned a lot from you and apply it to my marriage. I also want to thank you for all the other topics (isms) you touch on!
I didn't like how he handled that conversation. His tone made him sound removed, like he was DKH commenting on cheating broadly, and then angled himself as a victim of confidence. Felt like he was sweeping it under while pretending to come clean.
Stephen reminds me soooo much of my exs. presenting himself to be this intellectual person who can talk your ear off, overly emotional, very insecure and just the feeling of something being off when you're with them. the constant need for s*x, validation and feeling like there's no room for you. It really feels strange watching someone having that behavior when you're not personally in it.
I am a kinky and very sexual person, like I can have sex up to 4 or 5 times a day. I like to talk a lot about sex with the people I'm having sex with. The anticipation created by talking about sex is very exciting and crucial to my attraction. I am not however, a cheater and they way that some online discourse is making it seem as though the two are intrinsically linked is concerning to me. That said, if you are kinky, there are resources to find other kinky people that are not this show lol
I had a hard time with this when I found out my ex husband (when we were married and I just had his baby 3 months ago) was cheating online and sharing videos, and pictures of me to other men. But with all that I learned, he had a breeding fetish. Mind you I am heavily tattooed and modified. I even have choke me and candy hearts on the front of my shin. Incredibly kinky and open about exploring and tapping into each other's kinks. This was the biggest slap in the face that he wanted to " breed other women" and wear wedding rings with them, while their husbands were deployed. It seemed like it was no longer about the fetish. But about anything and everything I wasn't. Those thinks consume you. Also, I learned that he poked a hole through a condom and that's how I actually got pregnant. There is a fine line between fetish in kink with a what is abusive in a power dynamic. It's a good conversation to have tho. This just f me up for a long time
SPOILER! @emmahathaway-vf6ml I was actually wondering whether Tyler has a breeding fetish Dr Kirk also touches on what I've been wondering....that possibly Stephen has a masochist/submissive kink, and Monica subconsciously (?) played into that when she was being bossy and bragging that he was scared of her.
When Steven says "I'm taking full responsibility" but then when she asks to see the phone he said he "deleted the messages"...that is THE OPPOSITE of taking full responsibility 😂
Same with the men! Its one thing I like about this show, seeing the men get vulnerable and rely on each other emotionally, something that's very rarely showcased. I think the friendships these people form must be as intense as their romantic connections. It's nice to see, especially because it generally doesn't come with the same level of drama (most of the time anyway 😅)
Taylor had texted a get together to everybody. Steven's phone was near Monica and she saw Taylor's message along with the sexting he had done with the other woman.
I have my phone set up so you see there is a message, but not what the message is. And I live by myself and am not dating anyone😂. There is a Reddit thread theorizing Stephen has a ‘shame kink’- meaning he wanted to get caught on camera in front of the nation. If that is true, I feel violated because I am now an unwilling participant in his turn on😅-but who knows if that is true- he seems like a lost soul.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say he didn’t do a sleep test….. he may have told her that…. But that’s not what he did. You can’t be drunk at those. I think he was done… he was dropping hints that night with the dms business… he told her he was having doubts…. I’m assuming at some point he did say he wasn’t sure and that was his way of trying to let her down easy. I think they just were not compatible out of the pods…. Which is fine. It’s ok. It no different than going on a couple dates and realizing nope they aren’t for me…. He just happened to propose to her far too soon before he was able to know for sure. They just weren’t compatible. If he had never told her he was having doubts and this happened I’d be mad at him…. But he was trying to let her down easy for days in my opinion and then this happened. Not saying that’s how you should do things… but I don’t think he necessarily cheated I think he just was in too deep in a situation he was trying to get out of. Should have handled himself better but he’s not completely the worst.
I understand you like to give grace and come from your professional experience but often it seems you negate a persons intuition. My experience has bolstered my intuition.
Vanderpump Rules season 9-10. It was all over the tabloids a couple years ago PIS did a great commentary on it, helped me process the dissolution of my marriage!
Also 29:30 at this point is it not consciously "sabotaging" himself? maybe at this point cheating for him is another one of his kinks. because when ur so aware of it, to the point that you're in therapy for what you did before, and something you will talk about with other people maybe its time to start asking if and why you like doing it and not that there is something "wrong" or something subconscious happening .. maybe its time to face your character at this point i dont know. does everything have to be trauma/ subconscious some people maybe are just shit people i dont know...
Consensual non consent is discussed, hopefully in extreme amounts of depth, with lots of caviats, safe words, and a care plan. Outside of doint that, it's not consensual. It's just sexual assault/rape
Dr Honda I’m curious on your opinion on this, I read some comments mentioning that Stephen shows signs of having a humiliation kink, did you notice any signs ?
“Did I miss something?” could be the title of Season 7.
😂😂😂
😂😂😂 That's exactly how I felt! Literally everytime they would argue off camera then come back, it's just like with Alex and Tim.
there's no way in hell that clinical sleep tests allow you to show up drunk??
ZERO chance
Or be sexting on your phone when supposedly sleeping lol liessss
Then 100% do not. They also don't allow you to have your phone. I know this for a fact because I was not allowed to use my sleep meditation app.
Yea! I thought that was the case. Yea…. He wasn’t at a sleep study he just told her that so he could leave I bet. I think he just wanted out.
I worked at a sleep clinic and nope they would not allow it. They need to be able to see what your breathing patterns, oxygen levels, eye movements, etc to get an accurate idea of what your regular sleep patterns look like to make in informed diagnosis. Alcohol would affect your regular sleeping patterns making the results inaccurate (it can affect your REM sleep). So disappointed in this guy, but he was giving me weird vibes for awhile :/
Totally unrelated, but can we highlight how precious it is that Dr. Honda tucked his wife into bed before returning to us. Such a gem! I love their love.
Who would’ve thought that a sleep study would offer you cocktails and sexting? My, times have changed.
Stephen seems to have such an unhealthy realationship with sex to put it nicely…his behavior was really gross
He was drunk at a sleep study? I’m pretty sure that would invalidate the test results, and if you show up drunk I would imagine they send your happy butt home.
Thank you please!!! Who would allow a sleep study with a drunk person. That’s a lie He was in full awareness of his actions. She stopped having sex with him so he went elsewhere. No amount of double talk can negate this
Not only that, but they don't let you have your phone. LoL
12:55 Jeremy and Sarah Ann!! **Although they deny doing anything while he was still with his Laura- she saw that his location was at Sarah Ann’s after he went to the bar with friends.
I’m glad Stacy is there to remind Dr. Honda of some important events that has happened. 😂
I don't know why but the perception I have for stephen is that he literally has no clue who he is or what he really wants/ feels/ thinks about things. Everything he seems to say and do seems SO BEYOND FAKE to me. His whole demeanor expressions everything. It feels like acting. And I dont think he is doing this maliciously but I just think he's just that kind of person at this point I don't know. I believe nothing that comes out of his mouth
so steven immediately venmo'ed her meaning he had the money and was having her pay for things the whole time as he's cheating on her essentially, acting like it's too much to buy a 5$ bag of flowers like???
He didn’t mean actual flowers, just something similar 🙄🫣
I think sometimes when u dont have money ur neervous about spending? liek he jsut got fired lets say he has $1000 in his bank account. Obviosuly he has money but its not much, so he can pay her back but also if she offers to help he'd still take it. That's how I understood it
As another commenter said- ‘um- use Zelle because it comes out of his account immediately!’😅
What is a $5 bag of flowers?
@@narellieI'm guessing the flowers they sell on the side of the road 😂😂
To share: My general psychology professor had a way of creating a sex-based example every lecture. He seemed pretty harmless otherwise, but it was notable.
The talk of Stephen bring sex into every conversation made me think of it.
I just finished watching the previous vid and this drops! Thank you Dr Kirk I have learned a lot from you and apply it to my marriage. I also want to thank you for all the other topics (isms) you touch on!
It was a red flag when he said he's cheated in the past and how much he discussed sex but some people can change from that. Guess he didn't sadly.
I didn't like how he handled that conversation. His tone made him sound removed, like he was DKH commenting on cheating broadly, and then angled himself as a victim of confidence. Felt like he was sweeping it under while pretending to come clean.
@@zacharyjohnson1193yeah I got this feeling too. Stephen seemed to say a lot of the 'right' things but in a completely shallow and disingenuous way.
Stephen reminds me soooo much of my exs. presenting himself to be this intellectual person who can talk your ear off, overly emotional, very insecure and just the feeling of something being off when you're with them. the constant need for s*x, validation and feeling like there's no room for you. It really feels strange watching someone having that behavior when you're not personally in it.
Yeeeesssss been waiting for this one
Betrayal trauma is real 💔😓
Jarrette cheated on Iyanna after they got married (Season 2).
Is there some psychology around why cheaters don't delete their texts? It takes like 5 seconds to do so
Cheat shame, not kink shame🙌🏾
Yeah & my Unpopular Opinion? Talking a lot about sex doesn't have to mean 🚩🚩🚩
I am a kinky and very sexual person, like I can have sex up to 4 or 5 times a day. I like to talk a lot about sex with the people I'm having sex with. The anticipation created by talking about sex is very exciting and crucial to my attraction. I am not however, a cheater and they way that some online discourse is making it seem as though the two are intrinsically linked is concerning to me.
That said, if you are kinky, there are resources to find other kinky people that are not this show lol
@msmendes214 if both talkers are ok with it, it is a green flag for me. Such an important part of life for me- it is definitely a positive.
I had a hard time with this when I found out my ex husband (when we were married and I just had his baby 3 months ago) was cheating online and sharing videos, and pictures of me to other men. But with all that I learned, he had a breeding fetish. Mind you I am heavily tattooed and modified. I even have choke me and candy hearts on the front of my shin. Incredibly kinky and open about exploring and tapping into each other's kinks. This was the biggest slap in the face that he wanted to " breed other women" and wear wedding rings with them, while their husbands were deployed. It seemed like it was no longer about the fetish. But about anything and everything I wasn't. Those thinks consume you. Also, I learned that he poked a hole through a condom and that's how I actually got pregnant. There is a fine line between fetish in kink with a what is abusive in a power dynamic. It's a good conversation to have tho. This just f me up for a long time
SPOILER!
@emmahathaway-vf6ml
I was actually wondering whether Tyler has a breeding fetish
Dr Kirk also touches on what I've been wondering....that possibly Stephen has a masochist/submissive kink, and Monica subconsciously (?) played into that when she was being bossy and bragging that he was scared of her.
I was waiting with baited breath for Dr K to get to this part 😂
50 minutes?! We got a movie
Dr Honda, I love you but sometimes if you just wait a little longer you will get the answer to your questions. Appreciate you!
lol yes this
I think he's mentioned before that it's because of the length of clips he's allowed to show in terms of copyright
When Steven says "I'm taking full responsibility" but then when she asks to see the phone he said he "deleted the messages"...that is THE OPPOSITE of taking full responsibility 😂
Was waiting for thisssss
Me too!!
I think the solid friendships formed between women on this show is notable. Seems like more than the couples that stay together potentially!!!
Same with the men! Its one thing I like about this show, seeing the men get vulnerable and rely on each other emotionally, something that's very rarely showcased. I think the friendships these people form must be as intense as their romantic connections. It's nice to see, especially because it generally doesn't come with the same level of drama (most of the time anyway 😅)
Thank Stacy for us all for reminding you of what he said in the pods!
Taylor had texted a get together to everybody. Steven's phone was near Monica and she saw Taylor's message along with the sexting he had done with the other woman.
I have my phone set up so you see there is a message, but not what the message is. And I live by myself and am not dating anyone😂. There is a Reddit thread theorizing Stephen has a ‘shame kink’- meaning he wanted to get caught on camera in front of the nation. If that is true, I feel violated because I am now an unwilling participant in his turn on😅-but who knows if that is true- he seems like a lost soul.
@RenayOpish "shame kink" is WILD I'm throwing my phone if that's true 😭
Great video! Way more interesting and nuanced than I expected, thank you dr. Honda
here we gooooooooooooo
I’m going to go out on a limb and say he didn’t do a sleep test….. he may have told her that…. But that’s not what he did. You can’t be drunk at those. I think he was done… he was dropping hints that night with the dms business… he told her he was having doubts…. I’m assuming at some point he did say he wasn’t sure and that was his way of trying to let her down easy. I think they just were not compatible out of the pods…. Which is fine. It’s ok. It no different than going on a couple dates and realizing nope they aren’t for me…. He just happened to propose to her far too soon before he was able to know for sure. They just weren’t compatible. If he had never told her he was having doubts and this happened I’d be mad at him…. But he was trying to let her down easy for days in my opinion and then this happened. Not saying that’s how you should do things… but I don’t think he necessarily cheated I think he just was in too deep in a situation he was trying to get out of. Should have handled himself better but he’s not completely the worst.
I understand you like to give grace and come from your professional experience but often it seems you negate a persons intuition. My experience has bolstered my intuition.
Omg I could not wait for you to get here 😂😂 😅
Did I understand this correctly, you are saying that someone who was sexually abused cannot ever fully recover?
I don’t know that story! lol What’s the skinny? Cheated on camera but nobody knew who was cheating?
Vanderpump Rules season 9-10. It was all over the tabloids a couple years ago PIS did a great commentary on it, helped me process the dissolution of my marriage!
Also 29:30 at this point is it not consciously "sabotaging" himself? maybe at this point cheating for him is another one of his kinks. because when ur so aware of it, to the point that you're in therapy for what you did before, and something you will talk about with other people maybe its time to start asking if and why you like doing it and not that there is something "wrong" or something subconscious happening .. maybe its time to face your character at this point i dont know.
does everything have to be trauma/ subconscious some people maybe are just shit people i dont know...
I've heard of the kink 'consensual non consensual', are u saying that isnt a kink? Just want to clarify what u were saying in the last few minutes.
Consensual non consent is discussed, hopefully in extreme amounts of depth, with lots of caviats, safe words, and a care plan. Outside of doint that, it's not consensual. It's just sexual assault/rape
Disagree dr Honda. Monica said there were fetishes in the texts
What is a sleep test? I’m not American so… bit confused 😅
51 minutes ❤_❤
First finally!
Dr Honda I’m curious on your opinion on this, I read some comments mentioning that Stephen shows signs of having a humiliation kink, did you notice any signs ?
Lederhosen Rules took me out 😂😂😂🪱