Crayfis Would be cool if new CRTs were created that allowed rotation whilst on similar to a mobile phone. I reckon if CRT Mobile phones were created, people wouldn't be so careless and drop them. I would also like to mention that Tube Amplifiers also require similar care. When you're finished jamming, performing at a gig, you should always put it in standby for at least a minute or more before turning off. Then you must not move the tube amp as the tubes are still warm.
@@Vinnay94 dude, you talk like youre smart but its obvious you dont know the first thing about Cathode Ray Tubes! did you really say : I reckon if CRT Mobile phones were created, people wouldn't be so careless and drop them. what the actual frig man lel
@@daifuku74 Well there is a possibility that not every model is built to support its own internal weight when laid on its side (ie the weight of the tube could break something inside), but all the 20 inch or smaller sets Ive used have been ok. Also some consumer CRTs maybe be dangerous to balance on their side due to their weight and proportions and might need extra support.
check out the brook retro board - it's a PCB you can install into your arcade stick that provides compatibility with dreamcast as well as almost all retro consoles
Hey how are you just a quick question after your advice my monitor look great but I noticed on the last level in super mario world that I can see trails in the black background everything looks great but is that normal? Thanks for your help.
I went to a museum in Australia, NSW and there were 2 arcade sets but the monitors were faced up like the arcades sets at 0:40, 1:27. The one I played on had really bad colour bleed where each sprite looked like runny mascara. Not sure about the other one as there were a lot of kids crowding it (good on them). I don't know how old the museum and the tubes are and how long they've been in that position but is this why it had bad colour due to gravity pushing down on the tube?
Almost all of the cocktail cabinet arcade games I come across with poor video quality are actually modern "upgrades" to LCDs. That said, if it was a CRT and not a LCD, you're probably seeing an effect called blooming, which happens as the electron beam (which is scanning up and down in this case) stays on for too long and/or activates too late, due to needing a huge inrush of beam current that can't be satisfied. Usually there's a bad capacitor or inductor in the horizontal deflection circuit. It's a complicated thing to diagnose but is easily repairable.
Where is this TATE term coming from all of a sudden? It was portrait/landscape for years. Seems a thing to call it tate lately. Also heard CRT's are calibrated for the magnetic field, and can seriously shift colour when turned upside down or moved around the planet. Yours does not seem to suffer from anything. Is that because of the aperture grill on a Sony compared to a tridot mask?
@@2kBofFunI'm sorry but this is incorrect, the Japanese is 縦(たて), pronounced as he explains at the start of the video. It simply means vertical. Etymologically it may indeed share a root with the word you mentioned in your comment, but it is written and pronounced differently and has a different meaning.
@@lacquerware6962 I don't know what was incorrect in my comment. I just noticed that people use the Japanese term all of a sudden, whereas 10 years ago everybody called it a portrait display. I just did not know Tate had a Japanese origin, propbaly because most say "Tait" as in "Bait" and not as the Dutch would say it (which is very close to Japanese romaji pronounciation). Guess english is no longer hip enough.
@@2kBofFun Oh that's odd, I was replying to a comment claiming that tate comes from "立ち," but now I don't see it. I also received a notification that you replied, "Funny, it says it means 'freshly made,'" but I don't see that either. Maybe some comments got deleted? Anyway, I don't think people use this term to look hip (if they do, it's not working!), but because it emerged naturally from the specific context of arcade games and shmups in particular, since most games that support "portrait" mode (at least for a few decades) were made in Japan and often the menu options are listed as "tate" or "yoko." If you're trying to find info on gaming in this orientation, you're also much more likely to get directly relevant search results online if you search for "tate display" than if you search "portrait display." The specificity of the context justifies the term's use imo. In fact, I suspect the terms "portrait" and "landscape" really grew in ubiquity after the advent of the smartphone, at which point shmup nerds were already well acquainted with "tate" and "yoko." As for 縦 (vertical) vs. 立て (stand) vs. 〜たて (freshly made): Considering the relationship between verticality and standing, I think it's likely that the first two derive from the same word, but for all intents and purposes they are different words written with different kanjis respective to the context. Think "desert" (place with sand) and "to desert" (abandon). Same origin, but essentially different terms. 〜たて "freshly made" is actually just a hyper-specific application of 立て, so technically the same word. It doesn't actually mean "freshly made"; rather it's used as a suffix in conjunction with various verb roots to mean "freshly [verbed]." Thus, 焼き立て (yakitate)="freshly baked," etc. You can't just apply it to any verb though, there are specific ones it commonly applies to, "made" being one of the most common, which is probably why you got that search result. Other words that are also pronounced "tate": 盾 (shield) 殺陣 (stage combat - this was used as the name for the chain-killing system in Shinobi on the PS2!) 建て (to build/erect) 絶てる (to cut off)
If you needed a tutorial to know you turn your monitor on it's side for vertical games then you probably don't have the intelligence to even sustain respiration on your own....
@@ramakrishnamishra8179 WOW I did not expect an answer so soon, and such a constructive one to boot! Tate is simply the Japanese word (or word component) 縦 which means 'vertical', alternatively 立て which means 'standing'. Cheers!
Important to note to never rotate the screen while it is turned on.
Rotate it when it is off and leave it for about an hour before turning it on.
Great point. Thanks
Crayfis Would be cool if new CRTs were created that allowed rotation whilst on similar to a mobile phone.
I reckon if CRT Mobile phones were created, people wouldn't be so careless and drop them.
I would also like to mention that Tube Amplifiers also require similar care. When you're finished jamming, performing at a gig, you should always put it in standby for at least a minute or more before turning off. Then you must not move the tube amp as the tubes are still warm.
@@Vinnay94 dude, you talk like youre smart but its obvious you dont know the first thing about Cathode Ray Tubes!
did you really say : I reckon if CRT Mobile phones were created, people wouldn't be so careless and drop them. what the actual frig man lel
is that the only precaution to use a PVM in tate mode? Or is there something else to know please?
@@daifuku74 Well there is a possibility that not every model is built to support its own internal weight when laid on its side (ie the weight of the tube could break something inside), but all the 20 inch or smaller sets Ive used have been ok.
Also some consumer CRTs maybe be dangerous to balance on their side due to their weight and proportions and might need extra support.
Using a PS2 with component cables, that's how I played Raiden III on my Toshiba 14AF46. It is vertically beautiful ^~^👌
Raiden 3 is awesome. There are some good ones on xbox 360 too.
I just tried Tate for the first time today. Instead of flipping my TV I changed the key bindings on my emulator and it works like a side scroller.
check out the brook retro board - it's a PCB you can install into your arcade stick that provides compatibility with dreamcast as well as almost all retro consoles
Amazing tate with the pvm 2950qm 😍
Thank you to share it
Great video Steve, I missed this one before. I like seeing how you have improved your video quality over time
Thanks Louis. I cringe to look back at some of these older videos, but it's all part of learning.
I wish I could go to your house and play all kinds of games with you on those retro displays
Love your content. Thanks Dude!
Tate is wind in the Dakota language. No bs.
I rgb'd that samsung chassis with that shell, I have a piece of wood under back and some wedges in the front, been fine for awhile.
Cool vid, and good info! Also, Sonic CD had such a great soundtrack:)
Great video mate. I've just done a quick TATE video too. Great minds think alike! 👍
I only subscribed because you sound like the late Bill Paxton. Nah, just kidding--you have great vids, thanks!
Lol, thanks
Man, I love this channel. All this time I been saying it wrong. Lol
Awesome video...love it...
Thanks!
I'm wondering if you can play DOS games on A CRT TV?
Yes, I don't know much about it, but there is software and Pi hardware that can emulate DOS games and output RGB 240p video.
I love Fast Striker, I wish it had a tate option
Me too. I wish they all did.
Was there any noticeable input lag when using that adapter?
No. This whole setup has no additional lag. That's probably one of the best things about this setup.
Hello. So can anything bad happen to a BVM, PVM, XM29 if you put it in a vertical position, for a short time or even for years? ...
I'm sure by this point you've heard about the very high quality BROOK PS2>DC converter.
Hey how are you just a quick question after your advice my monitor look great but I noticed on the last level in super mario world that I can see trails in the black background everything looks great but is that normal? Thanks for your help.
does it matter wich side you roll it on?
Almost all TATE settings assume the display has been rotated to the left.
I'm torn between an NEC XM29 and a PVM 2950.
I went to a museum in Australia, NSW and there were 2 arcade sets but the monitors were faced up like the arcades sets at 0:40, 1:27.
The one I played on had really bad colour bleed where each sprite looked like runny mascara. Not sure about the other one as there were a lot of kids crowding it (good on them).
I don't know how old the museum and the tubes are and how long they've been in that position but is this why it had bad colour due to gravity pushing down on the tube?
Almost all of the cocktail cabinet arcade games I come across with poor video quality are actually modern "upgrades" to LCDs. That said, if it was a CRT and not a LCD, you're probably seeing an effect called blooming, which happens as the electron beam (which is scanning up and down in this case) stays on for too long and/or activates too late, due to needing a huge inrush of beam current that can't be satisfied. Usually there's a bad capacitor or inductor in the horizontal deflection circuit. It's a complicated thing to diagnose but is easily repairable.
Hello friend, how can i connect a Xbox 360 ti pvm 2030? i would like to see Big, i have abother bvm 20f and 1953, But o want to plug in the 2030
You need a extron vsc 500 or 700 to downscale, and an extron rgb interface to convert it to 240p
Dreamcast is the only system I can't get to sync on my pvm 2950. Nothing but a rolling picture. :(
Where is this TATE term coming from all of a sudden? It was portrait/landscape for years. Seems a thing to call it tate lately.
Also heard CRT's are calibrated for the magnetic field, and can seriously shift colour when turned upside down or moved around the planet. Yours does not seem to suffer from anything. Is that because of the aperture grill on a Sony compared to a tridot mask?
@@2kBofFunI'm sorry but this is incorrect, the Japanese is 縦(たて), pronounced as he explains at the start of the video. It simply means vertical. Etymologically it may indeed share a root with the word you mentioned in your comment, but it is written and pronounced differently and has a different meaning.
@@lacquerware6962 I don't know what was incorrect in my comment. I just noticed that people use the Japanese term all of a sudden, whereas 10 years ago everybody called it a portrait display. I just did not know Tate had a Japanese origin, propbaly because most say "Tait" as in "Bait" and not as the Dutch would say it (which is very close to Japanese romaji pronounciation). Guess english is no longer hip enough.
@@2kBofFun Oh that's odd, I was replying to a comment claiming that tate comes from "立ち," but now I don't see it. I also received a notification that you replied, "Funny, it says it means 'freshly made,'" but I don't see that either. Maybe some comments got deleted?
Anyway, I don't think people use this term to look hip (if they do, it's not working!), but because it emerged naturally from the specific context of arcade games and shmups in particular, since most games that support "portrait" mode (at least for a few decades) were made in Japan and often the menu options are listed as "tate" or "yoko." If you're trying to find info on gaming in this orientation, you're also much more likely to get directly relevant search results online if you search for "tate display" than if you search "portrait display." The specificity of the context justifies the term's use imo. In fact, I suspect the terms "portrait" and "landscape" really grew in ubiquity after the advent of the smartphone, at which point shmup nerds were already well acquainted with "tate" and "yoko."
As for 縦 (vertical) vs. 立て (stand) vs. 〜たて (freshly made): Considering the relationship between verticality and standing, I think it's likely that the first two derive from the same word, but for all intents and purposes they are different words written with different kanjis respective to the context. Think "desert" (place with sand) and "to desert" (abandon). Same origin, but essentially different terms.
〜たて "freshly made" is actually just a hyper-specific application of 立て, so technically the same word. It doesn't actually mean "freshly made"; rather it's used as a suffix in conjunction with various verb roots to mean "freshly [verbed]." Thus, 焼き立て (yakitate)="freshly baked," etc. You can't just apply it to any verb though, there are specific ones it commonly applies to, "made" being one of the most common, which is probably why you got that search result.
Other words that are also pronounced "tate":
盾 (shield)
殺陣 (stage combat - this was used as the name for the chain-killing system in Shinobi on the PS2!)
建て (to build/erect)
絶てる (to cut off)
Link works my phone is crap 💩 sorry Steve
No worries
emulator lhave an optiomn to flip screen. this is not needed
you dingus
If you needed a tutorial to know you turn your monitor on it's side for vertical games then you probably don't have the intelligence to even sustain respiration on your own....
No its 'tate'.... Please stop... It's making my brain hurt
I don't understand why people write TATE in all caps 😂😂 its short for rotate! Lol the Japanese people love to shorten words.. LoL
You are magnificently wrong.
@@Raakiszh so is TATE a short form of something phrase starting with T?
@@ramakrishnamishra8179 WOW I did not expect an answer so soon, and such a constructive one to boot!
Tate is simply the Japanese word (or word component) 縦 which means 'vertical', alternatively 立て which means 'standing'.
Cheers!
@@Raakiszh ok! Thank you! 😊