Acorn Archimedes RISC OS in 2013 (Raspberry Pi)
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- In this video I rediscover RISC OS. The last time I really used it was in the early 90s at school on the Acorn Archimedes, it has now been ported to the modern ARM machine - The Raspberry Pi.
RISC OS is a computer operating system designed in Cambridge, England by Acorn. First released in 1987, its origins can be traced back to the original team that developed the ARM microprocessor.
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The bar at the bottom is the Icon Bar. Acorn were the pioneers of the "bar". It was launched long before Apple Dock and Windows Task Bar.
ARM stood for Acorn Risc Machines. It now stands for Advanced Risc Machines.
Love RISC OS, still used it to this day on my RiscPC. Legendary & very influential machine.
Great video by the way!
ARM seems to have had a few acronyms over the years:
The Acronym 'Acorn RISC Machine' (in use since 1983) was changed to 'Advanced RISC Machine' in 1990 when Acorn and others formed the spin-off company Advanced RISC Machines Ltd (which became ARM Ltd in 1998)
Definitely a unique and very useful feature of RISC OS. You can tell it was strongly designed around encouraging software development and education. It's nice to be able to explore it more thoroughly finally, I was an Amiga user as a kid so only used Acorn machines at school.
You are welcome. It's allways fun to see your retro videos. Since I my self is a long time Amiga user (since 1989) and still have original machines running, it's nice to know others are equally "crazy" ;-)
This is Excellent Kooky :)
Stuck it in our Documentaries Playlist :)
Nice video and nice to see RISC OS again. You are very good at presenting by the way, I look forward to watching more videos.
so great to hear about this OS being made available again...
Got a headache & eye strain from your camera attempting to auto focus so much. Thanks man *thumbs up*
I rerally like your style. How you take the viewer from the bottom telling everything relevant to the topic and make the viewer soore high in the technology. rreally great way of yours there. You gained a subscriber .
The hardware and the OS were technically superior to anything else available at the time, in my opinion. When I think of Acorn, I can't help thinking what might have been.
I love the Raspberry Pi's. They're so powerful and cheap. Great value for money.
Nice video.
What's extremely cool with RISC OS is the ability you've got to easily program in ARM assembly from within the BBC BASIC. You can mix BASIC and ARM code transparently, it's always been one of the great strengths of the Archimedes : with Acorn you had to spend more to get a machine but everything was included, ready to use, well thought and convenient.
It began as Acorn Risc Machines and was renamed to Advanced Risc Machines when spun off as a separate company during the Acorn breakup.
Ah nice tip, been trying to figure this out for months. Thanks!
Happy to see this video, I changed my amiga for a raspberry pi and Risc Os 5 ... It's really strange to be in a community that is still developing and that several companies offer new computers for all budget. Really happy with my move ...
Very informational Thank you ;) and Happy New Year!
I used to use RISC OS on Acorn Archimedes computers when I was in primary school back in the 1990s in the United Kingdom.
I'm pretty sure me and some of the rest of my primary 7 class, used to stay behind after School on Fridays, to play Lemmings.
@@lmcgregoruk I used to stay behind on year 11 before the summer holidays to play Fervour on RISC OS 3.11 machines.
Do you remember the "Computers for Schools" voucher scheme that Tesco's did?
@@darrenlink1347 No. I never seen that.
Great video!
I stumbled across this video purely by chance. Magic stuff. Now I have to get a Pi!
just brilliant
That was great, looking forward to trying this o
I remember my primary school having an Acorn machine (too young to remember the model, but it was desktop-style, and I distinctly remember the green acorn!), and I saw it there until about 2004 when I can only guess it was thrown out. They also had what to me now I would say was a Acorn A3000 but with a black case? I really wish I could have rescued those things! Haha!
Thanks to Google, definately an A4000 or A5000! Heh, I can remember that from when I was 6/7, but anything to do with maths... xD
Yep, mee too, this sways me towards the Pi. Archimedes was a missed opportunity since, computationally, it was the fastest machine of its generation. Risc OS was a gem too. ( Gem? No pun intended OS watchers! :) ).
Great video! I had no idea RISC OS was brought to the Pi, makes me want to get one now. :) I collect old machines and have an Archimedes A4000 (I think?) with a DOS card, pretty cool having a hardware PC inside the Acorn. I should set up my Amiga 1200 again, haven't used it in years. anyway thanks for the great video, subscribed. :)
It's amazing how this technology carries on.
Groovy case! And from Maplin too. I might have a reason to buy a Pi now.
I just got one and really like it. I thought the Pi might give more users at a known minimum hardware level for what you are doing. All the best, Jim.
Nice Video! I love my Raspberry Pi!
Thanks for the tip, will have another go at it on the next vid then :)
Ovation Pro is a very powerful desktop publishing system which was originally developed for the RISC PC, and is now available for Windows.
So, I may have mentioned that I have dedicated a RPi to RISC OS 5.28. I have literally maxed it out with all sorts of software from both the !store and packman. I also bought a few commercial apps as well. Anyway, I showed my Mac centric 15 year old daughter how easy it is to do graphics and desktop publishing, and how easy it is to move objects from any program to any other by dragging and dropping... She was blown away and now wants her own system for her school work. Wouldn't it be nice if RISC OS make a comeback in the 2020s.
Good call!
Thanks! - Yeah I've had people say that before, I tried one video on manual focus but it's really hard to see if it's in focus through my little view-finder, it ended up being all blurry and I had to do the whole video again. I don't think it looks too bad on this one though, only happens a couple of times.
Select, Menu, Adjust. I remember those.
I think if you typed a fully qualified path into the Save dialogue box you could just click the OK button; certainly if you had previously saved it the full path would be in the text box and you could just click OK (or even just click Save in the main menu).
I'm really impressed at how versatile it is, I have Rasbmc media centre on an SD-Card too, there are plug ins for RUclips, Revision 3, Cnet, 4OD and lots of other video services, it plays 1080p video great from my server too, it's replaced my PS3 for most media uses in my living room.
Its worth noting in relation to the old Risc OS machines that we still have a decent number of Phoebe Cases (the yellow ones).
I was amazed that this thing is supported up to Rasperry Pi 3. I didn't expected that because there aren't a lot of people using this OS in these days.
I installed RISC OS on Pi 2, and this is first time I tried RISC OS. And, it was fun, since almost everything was totally new to me.
Although web browser still lacks some things(Especially HTML5 and Javascript)...
Thanks for going through that, I was never lucky enough to use RISCOS, but spent many years with workbench 1.2 and up on my miggy. Can I recommend either locking the focus on your camcorder, or getting an HDMI capture unit in the future!
LOVE RiscOS
The bar at the bottom was/is called the "Icon Bar".
thx for the info!
The bar on the bottom of RiscOS is refered to as the desktop.
Also ARM is short fot Acorn Risc Machine, which leaves Risc being short for Reduced Istruction Set Computer
Oh, the memories! Those were the days when you could, would (and I did) write, in assembler, a desktop text drawing module that wrote directly to video RAM.
I don't remember RISC OS going in-and-out of focus like that though ;)
Funny, and a little sad, how responsive these "legacy" OSes were...
Man, I've been drooling over the BBC, I still remember visiting the local electronics store where they were running demos. Those were the days, dreaming of a computer you could not have. Now we can buy what we want after programming for many years 💻🖥
The ! (Exclamation or pling) at the beginning of the application names has a double function. To the user it visually indicates an app, not a file or a folder. To RiscOS the !Application is actually a folder which contains all the package files you need to run the app. So you can copy apps by simply dragging them to a new location. It's a long long time since I developed on RiscOS but if I recall correctly you can hold the left shift/ctrl key (I forget, but it's one of those two) and double click the !Application to open its containing folder.
Kevin Phillips so it's like macOS .app files that are actually folders you can open
@@CommanderMouse72 made around the same too, I think. (since .app and other macOS packages originated on Next Step.)
nice pc wallpaper at the beginning
You're right. Mr Braben had the right idea at the right moment. There's more than ADA or C++ in life !
All the best to you too ... Great video, again, with the history of Acorn, that's excellent.
And keep an eye on the Archimedes news, something is about to be revealed soon ...proving how good its hardware has always been, from the start.
Hehe... Just found this video. That Archimedes A410/1 is mine. Great machines :D
All you have to do is put up som text on the screen and then manually focus, if the camera allows for this. Text is a good reference. When you can read it clearly it is focused. Then you know the focus is set on the screen as long as neither is moved.
I killed one a few weeks ago. They are really awesome and built like a tank relative to other electronic boards. The one that died was doing environmental management for an Oil Cooled Server system. We are only in experimental stage and didn't really know what we were doing. I put the board too close to the warm oil pipelines. It last a few weeks before it died. I doubt many other tech could of done better. Big respect to Raspberry Pi Foundation.
Indeed its just a shame that desktops go for crazy high power approach now days. The acorn Archimedes was a massive step forwards and was way ahead of its time and made the IBM compatibles of the time look archaic in comparison.
I used to network the Arch's back in the day. Bloody Econet networks were a nightmare compared to modern Cat.5. Good memories though! Had some good times looking after those machines.
This is os pretty unique in the modern age
2:46 WOW I just did some digging thanks that reminder. In my Grade 2 classroom (well off private school) we had 4x Acorn Archimedes A4000 computers. They we're new and awesome back then and seared into my memory. Because we used it purely for education in traditional areas. Those did not start me in life of computer geekery. Instead it was my uncle who started a wholesale PC import company. I played with heaps of cool tech and learn how the insides work. Thats why today i'm a hardware guy.
Love the video! Brings back some memories seeing that old screen, being a bit of a computer know not would it be possible to set up a raspberry pi to run as you’ve shown but be able to use a floppy drive and use some of the old acorn games? Been toying with the idea of getting an old acorn a3010 for some weekend nostalgia but this seems a more reliable way to do so and cheaper! Many thanks
You can't use a floppy drive but you can find lots of floppy image downloads online, which can then be mounted. I've got lots of Acorn discs at my parents so I'm thinking of using an old PC with a floppy drive to create some floppy images, for stuff I can't find online...
Check out this video series:
ruclips.net/video/ecy0IXZt8BE/видео.html
The 3rd video is all about gaming.
This video is about using a bridge PC to transfer data - I haven't tried this yet though.
ruclips.net/video/ouJGpAsIlZg/видео.html
There are many games on the JASPP website:
forums.jaspp.org.uk/forum/index.php
I'm loving playing games like Twin World, Mad Professor Mariarti and Stunt Racer 2000 again.
Can you use Risc OS as a file server or network server in general? Use Samba, to share directories to other devices?
having a BBC I lusted after an Archimedes but went to the more affordable Amiga. hence the rpi works for me as a nostalgia purchase.
Some of the paid software is still being developed and improved to this day. When Acorn went bust in 98, some of the software chains and suppliers continued RiscOS as more of an enthusiasts state. Some of the software paid for is currently on par with Windows equivilant, and can even better them. Also RiscOS was never really native to the internet, so Netsurf is a nicely made lite browser. Firefox is available, but can be a little ropy. Sadly flash support is still a no no.
Hehehe, linux was too slow on the Pi last time I tried, so maybe I'll install this. I so much dig how retro this looks. I had an acorn recently but now something failed with the HD. I never knew the archimedes in the past, but now I know I am wondering why it didn't catch up in the past. It was far beyond Amiga as a computer, even if not so many/good games, but as a cpu ARM was powerful, the OS looked very nice, lot's of educational applications, we could have ARM and not X86 computers today if it catched up (well wait, we have Andriods :).
I was waiting for you to bring up the 3 button mouse. We used to play a game called drop. There was a little red ball n u had to drop down different levels to the right whole at the bottom
16:15 Fun Fact: in the Archimedes world, the exclamation marks in application names were actually termed "Plings" (hence Pling Store)
I heard that a bit differently, that Bill Gates heard about Acorn and then tried to sell them MS DOS but they turned him down, he already had MS DOS by then though. Hauser seems to back it up:
"And people noticed. 'Bill Gates tried to talk me into adopting his MSDOS,' says Hauser. 'He came to Cambridge and gave me a big spiel.' 'We said: "Bill, look, we understand that you're interested in selling us this operating system, but compare it to ours. We can't possibly take such a retrograde step."
Well they left a CPU architecture that's now the most used platform in the world, not a bad legacy!
My brother was on Micro Live,the ping pong robot in 1985..:)
Nice video. AROS next? That's more your style!
That takes me back, do all the old Archie games work on it?
Aah. I think I still have my old A3010 in the loft. Internal hard drive and all my old games. Not sure though. Maybe I should get a Rasberry Pi. I love RiscOS. I miss my old games, and the superior sound quality they had
like your wallpaper, im so fucking happy i could shit rainbows.
last week i visited a school, and they were still usung windows 3.11 with dump terminals
RIP Maplin.
RiscOS runs better on the Raspberry Pi than Windows 7 on your PC. Oh how I miss efficient Software...
RIP Maplin
Yeah my mic was right next to the keyboard
damn I miss the 80s
Yep me also.Music computers and tv. Even tv ads were brill.
Very interesting----good choice for a video topic. I'm guessing the Atari version of Netsurf has to do with ACP and all that delightful madness---I sent you a link to that ages back didn't I? Definitely good to see RISC gaining some ground again---with all this old tech bubbling back up from the ether perhaps my old boyhood dream of one day rocking a futuristic trackball in each hand just might still have a chance...slightly.
ARM stood for Acorn RISC Machines, not Research.
how the C5 makes so much sence now..
Yes, the task bar was actually called the task bar on RISC OS - and yes, Microsoft stole their task bar idea from Acorn. If I remember correctly, even back in those days, Apple tried unsuccessfully to sue Acorn over RISC OS, claiming they stole the look and feel of the MAC OS (despite RISC OS needing a 3-button mouse compared to Apple's 2 button mouse).
When Apple brought out their PowerPC RISC processors, they claimed in their advertisements that they had produced the first RISC based computer. They soon had to pull all these adverts since this was a blatant lie.... Acorn's first RISC machines came out in 1987....way before Apple's attempts.
R Bee Another thing Bill Gates stole from Acorn was Networking. Back in the days of the BBC Micro (1981) the BBC Micro contained a networking port called Econet whereby many machines could be networked together. Apparantly Bill hadn't even heard of such a thing until he saw it working on the BBC Micro.
R Bee Xerox had a 3 button mouse before Acorn, so...
+R Bee Because clearly before econet there was no such thing as networking. /sarcasm
Apple are really annoying. Apparently, IOS updates are now making older devices slower purposely so that owners will buy the newer devices.
Apple's mouse only had one button.
BOOOO BEEEP! Love it!
How about setting up an RaspberryPI-400 computer with RiscOS? Then do an PI-400 versus Archimedes test/review.
Wondering - how compatible is the RPI Acorn RISC OS with the older platforms?
Say - if I happened to have an old copy of Wolfenstein 3D for Acorn machines, would that run, if I had a way of reading the floppys or tranfering the floppy images?
Hmmm ... I guess it's worth a try :D
I've had my Raspberry Pi 4 for a couple of weeks now and I've got quite a few old games running.
Check out this video series if you haven't already seen it:
ruclips.net/video/ecy0IXZt8BE/видео.html
On the same channel there is a video about using a bridge PC to make images of old floppy disks. I haven't tried this yet though.
haiku os
The task bar is called icon bar.
Ah I thought you were saying Acorn's DOS pre-dated MS DOS.
cool background where di you get it?
awesome review, you have shown me a few things I never knew about, can you explaine to me how to remove a 1" black border round my monitor, in windows I would use "over scan" to sort this problem out but being a noob riscOS user I have know idea how to do this
Oh my god... this really took me back!! I used to have an Acorn A5000, and spent years tinkering with it (even programmed a game for a GCSE project).
Was a bit meh about Raspberry Pi, but now I've seen you can run RiscOS on it, I'm very tempted to get the Maplin kit. One question - are there any of the old 4D and Superior Software games available to play download and play on this kit? I'd love to get reacquainted with stuff like Chocks Away, Saloon Car Racer, Stunt Car Racer and Stryker's Run!!
Stunt Racer 2000 and E-type work under AcornMode but I haven't had any luck running Saloon Cars unfortunately.
My two favourites platform games were TwinWorld and Mad Professor Mariarti. They play perfectly although TwinWorld required a patch.
Check out this video series if you haven't already done so:
ruclips.net/video/ecy0IXZt8BE/видео.html
I was clearly talking about desktop computing, as evidenced by my use of "Acorn" and the video being about Risc OS (notice that I mentioned the OS). The later success of the ARM processor in mobile devices is a separate issue. Acorn Computers and ARM Holdings are two different companies. The "PMSL" looks a little redundant now, doesn't it? You should see a doctor about any bladder weakness you may be experiencing.
ARM originally stood for Acorn RISC Machine but in 1990 ARM the company was formed and the acronym was changed to Advanced RISC Machine.
Please, put links to your wallpapers!
This really temps me. I got my old Acorn A4000 down from the loft yesterday after 10 years of last using it and found its now not working! ahhh! So this now really interests me, is it possible to be able to play Acorn games on it???
Did you ever fix it?
Acorn RISC Machine actually, yeah I got it wrong.
Where did you get that wallpaper from?!
You sure like your rainbows :D
the funny thing is that the raspberry came from element14 (e14 was acorn before 2000!!!)
Not sure this is correct maybe I'm missing something.
Yes, Acorn did restructure into Element 14 Ltd then the ARM processor division was split off from Element 14/Acorn. Element 14 was, in turn, was bought by Broadcom. But I couldn't find any evidence that they had been sold or split off again.
I did find on Wikipedia (that's NEVER wrong) where Element14 (note the lack of space) was just the European arm of Premier Farnell and that they introduced the element14 brand name in 2010. The name similarities are most likely the cause of the confusion.
BTW the reason I looked into this was that I liked Acorn back in the day and I was bored :-)
Alas, the two ekenent14 companies are not related.
Does it runs on android phones too?
Standard in schools until 1995...heh-heh....except my school kept us on them until 1998...when I graduated knowing all Acorn software, in a world dominated by IBM PCs and Microsoft Office, XD.
Yeah, they sure liked to do things their own way.
The case design reminds me more of the gay pride flag than the Commodore 64 logo. :-) I wish it came with a VGA output, though. RISC OS looks like a well-designed and unique operating system to experiment with.
l o l also hi.
I love the name of the browser....."NetSurf". So 90's.....lol.
Is there a flash player software for RISC OS?
No.
The auto focus on the camera is VERY annoying. I hope in the years since making this video you learned to turn off auto focus when recording a TV/monitor display ;-)
Wow.
Haven't met someone being so passive aggressive and disrespectful like that