Phil Lesh on LSD and social change + the Grateful Dead - Craig Ferguson 5/6/05
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- While promoting his book SEARCHING FOR THE SOUND, Grateful Dead bassist PHIL LESH talked about the band, psychedelic drugs and social change on THE LATE LATE SHOW WITH CRAIG FERGUSON that aired on May 6th 2005 #phillesh #gratefuldead #craigferguson #interview
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“Is she ok?” 🤣
I could have lived without the first minute of this video 😵💫
Not if you wanted to see the rest....
@@ClevelandLiveMusic It's called "skipping ahead."
@@user-mp3fv7uu1l why I put a graphic at the front of many uploads "skip to...."
I could have lived without the first 30 years of the Grateful Dead.
Agreed.if you clicked here you probably don't need a boring preamble
I love hearing Phil's voice read Searching For The Sound.
Wonderful writing talent, as well.
I have the book going to read it this week on holiday✌️
'Pride of Cucamonga' has always been one of my favorites.
One of the greatest bass players, always seemed to be "on" with band. He was reason the band was successful,but did it without fanfare or ego. Love Phil
I listened to this audiobook from a library whilst homeless in Sweden in 2010. It made me proud to be American
interviews with both Phil and Jerry are riveting for different reasons. Phil is very thoughtful; Jerry’s “just” a guy who loves to play. and I loved Phil‘s book, every time he talked about a show, I found myself dialing it up on Relisten/Archive to (re)live the sound.
Phil is an intelligent, talented, nice guy. Thanks for this short interview!
I wish Phil had been on Later with Bob Costas
I agree! And he's my birthday buddy!
Very cool! My favorite bass player and my favorite late night host!! Thanks for this Cleveland!
Oh man I’m surprised I never seen this … 🙏thx 4 the upload
Everyone should try LSD at least once in their lives.
when they have some maturity and real life experience to reflect on ...
Sit down and meditate during the come up (200ug or 150ug is all you really need) listening to Bach or Mozart, and do it in nature during daytime. Did this on my first time and i saw it, we're One being with many forms. Twas beautiful. Changed my life. Lsd is not a party drug
@@muddywaters4771 Sure it's a party drug. So is X, Tina, Molly and Ketamine.
@@devildoll9929 ive had x and molly, i feel they just get you excited and really talkative to be around others, like a really long cocaine high. Lsd also has that energetic feeling but more introspective
@@muddywaters4771 Well, you're never going to be able to predict how these illicit drugs will make you feel because they're often cut with something, usually speed, even strychnine. Here in Colorado, which voted to make possession of hallucinogens legal last midterm elections, that problem may go away a tiny bit. The next step is for the state to allow legal sales of hallucinogens, probably in the marijuana dispensaries that have so proliferated in the last decade. Little by little, Colorado is becoming more like Amsterdam, except for the legal brothels.
Probably my favorite rock bassist. He inches out Casady and Bruce. Phil is the loosest of them all and still never misses a beat. He creates space with sound, whole vistas for the others to fill with details.
Ha! That was amazing! I loved Phil's reaction to Craig's suggestion that he'd heard that there were drugs involved with the Grateful Dead! Hilarious!
Phil is 80 years old !!!! love Phil. Read his book its really good.
Whats the name of the book? I grew up in the Bay but I never became a DeadHead until last week when I did 4 tabs and watched the Grateful Dead movie, now I can't stop listening to them.
@@skinnybuddha8988 searching for the sound is the name of his book. Bill Kreutzmans book Deal is also very very good.
@@skinnybuddha8988 Phil’s book is my favorite of any book ever written about the band. He always seemed the most level headed, the Dad, of the band. Not to mention he’s a very intellectual, fascinating guy and an excellent writer taboot. Definitely check out ‘Searching for the Sound’ if you want what’s always seemed to me the most down-the-middle, unbiased (as one person can be) account of the whole story of it all from start to still unfinished. He does a great job of providing the cultural context of their shared story of cosmic synchronicities that make the whole thing feel ‘meant to be’ on some higher, esoteric level.
Hes not 80 years old, hes 80 years young
@@blankpool no, he had a liver transplant. He’s old😳
I love how far ahead Phil is in front of Craig’s questioning. One did loads of drugs, helped create endless inspired musicality and tells the tale and the other likes the sound of his own voice.
Craig is a recovering addict which is why he's kinda insisting on that part of the scene.
@@VCT3333 Craig was deep into alcohol and cocaine. That's a whole different world from cannabis and psychedelics. The trouble with sobered-up drunks and coke/smack junkies is that they tend to think ALL substances are the same, and that's simply not true.
Well, Phil was also hooked on opioids so hard he had a guy that would go on tour with him to make sure no one would pass him shit during preshow meet and greets with fans.
Don’t begrudge him that one bit. Addiction is a disease, and no one really wants it, it just creeps up on you.
Doesn’t diminish his genius by one iota.
This guy was just plain annoying right from the start. Of course Phil remained so cool and even just rode this shit out with pure grace.
Craig is a talk show comedian… he’s just here doing his thing, while Phil is there to promote his book . Hero worship is mostly a bad look .
Met most of the boys - Phil would actually engage in conversation - a nice human indeed
I've been listening to, studying & have been fascinated with his bass work, style & technique for years.
This is the first time I've ever seen him speak.
Finally, The Man behind the bass.
Seems like a really cool fellow.🎵🎵
Don't forget the wristband Man!!!!!!!!
@@haveaniceday5693 The wristband is the secret to nailing Phil’s bass tone
He's a huge classical music fan.
Its a great interview.
Thanks for posting this. I think he would be the most likely member of the Grateful Dead that I would get along with. A friend asked me one time if I would like to meet Jerry Garcia, and I told him it would depend on the circumstance. If it were just to shake hands and tell him how great he was or some other gushing drivel, no. If I would have something to do with him, like jam or get a mini-guitar lesson, definitely. It would have to be something organic, the result of something that brought us together. This of course never happened. We have the people in our lives that we have by living. I saw the Dead six times, am forever grateful for the experience. It's great to see Phil Lesh in an interview. He is a great bass player, plays like Jerry. I know the band from a distance, which is good enough for me.
Phil is the coolest. The glue of the band.
Thank you Phil!
Phil- thanks for the sonic boom on the Friday night sound check At Watkins Glenn. All the Wharf creatures heard that one. Very talented man. Nice interview. Sad the hostilities never quite seemed to clear between Phil and old friends.
Thanks to Phil I was able to be backstage for many a show. He was generous and thanks to him my many years of being a Dead Head only got better with time.
Master player! Love the Phil Bombs!
Phil is one of the great men of the 20th century. For real!
Craig was in no way expecting Phil to be so intelligent. He was expecting to make fun of a stoner hippie. He got an articulate artist and looked like an ass.
Craig was usually better
@@ClevelandLiveMusic Much better. He just misjudged.
I think Craig just wanted to joke around and Phil was actually trying to have a conversation.
Not an ass! A scotsman making a friend!
Totally!! This is why Phil doesn’t come out and interview, thumbs down on Craig Ferguson not ahead at all. Hope to not watch anymore Craig interviews
They are everywhere!!
Phil is the coolest..
I was literally a kid in the 60's and grew up in the 70's, so never really a hippie.
But I still see vestiges of the 60's in society today, though I think it's more unconcious than known.
Craig tried to send him up...and failed.
Great interview!
As a deadhead for over 55 years, personally I've always thought their most provocative song was Unbroken Chain, by Phil
Man, I was so excited to see this pop up! As a longtime fan of Craig Ferguson and the Dead - especially Phil - I thought this would be a fantastic, thoughtful, interesting conversation, but alas. This is unfortunately VERY early in his tenure on the Late Late Show (2005 is his first year hosting it) and it seems he hadn't yet hit his stride or found his own personal voice, and was still trying to emulate his boss David Letterman at this point. Craig is uncharacteristically shallow here; he's a smart, incredibly insightful guy but regrettably he was just working the cheap jokes (again, like Letterman) that night. Four years later, Ferguson won a prestigious Peabody Award (the broadcast equivalent of a Pulitzer Prize) for his interview with Desmond Tutu; I wish we could have had that version of Craig's show when Phil was a guest.
Indeed, a lot of cheap shots that Phil handles gracefully.
At one of my favorite GD concerts in between songs we all were shouting, "We want Phil! We want Phil!" After a moment Phil says, "Well alright; just this once." And he sang "Tom Thumb".
Got my 2(!) Copies of his book for a dollar apiece from Dollar Tree back in 2005! Love that book. I bought one copy, read it to shreds and went out and bought a second, pristine copy, for the bookshelf. Phil and Jerry were great!
Phil Lesh is a grand gentleman with tons of class, who has contributed so much to the world of music. This interviewer, on the other hand, is a classless tool who clearly doesn’t get it and asks inane, disrespectful questions.
I'd love to see an interview with a member of the band that does not bother with the drug questions. It's like a lug nut when there is a whole car in front of you. Sure it's a part of the car, but there is a whole hell of a lot else to it.
@@danielcrescenzo354 lots of good ones out there.
Ferguson is kind of a dick isn't he, totally forgot about that guy. I guess everyone else did too
@@gdgbjbfgcbjn Actually, he is rated second only to Johnny Carson, and has a cult following here on YT. But he is definitely an acquired taste, and was quirky and new back then. If you feel like giving him a second chance, take a look at the Britney Spears monologue.
i love fergosun...but i agree with you regarding this interview...im also a big fan of psychedlics and i dont think craig understands that world...
Love Phil!!!
Sweet!!!
You are awesome dude!
Phil....Craig....me?
I want to thank Phil for 1974.
My favorite year of Grateful Dead music.
Haha well said.
alembic meets wall of sound bombs away!
I remember watching this when it aired, I'd bought his book just a couple days before. He came to town for a book signing a month later where they made you buy the book, so then I had two copies. Then somebody gave me a copy a few years later as a gift. I only have the signed copy now though. I met Weir that week, too, in an unrelated incident.
Craig Ferguson was in over his head, with Phil, and it appears that he knew it.
What he said about it being alive and well, when I saw Dead & Company in Hersheypark going to shakedown first, and then the way that stadium is built and just the vibe of community that was there and everybody loving the dead. You really felt like you were back in time.
My favorite book about the Dead
I always personally always thought that the Grateful Dead’s earlier work was a lot better than their later stuff. Now it all makes sense.
They crest until about '72, then it's all denouement, though they still made some fantastic new stuff throughout the Seventies. Jerry once said famously, "If you didn't see us in '68, you missed us."
Phil’s wicked smaht
Seen them in Philly at the Spectrum late 80’s early 90’s can’t remember exactly but I do remember how crazy it was with thousands of people tripping smoking and popping pills
This might be strange…But I love getting stoned (on weed) and listening to the Dead while mowing the lawn
We are everywhere, no doubt!!
...."Is she Ok?" Brilliant!
Would've liked to have heard Phil talk about Owsley "Bear" Stanley's role he provided for the band.
Not with the geek Ferguson interviewing. Any closer and he would be on Phil's lap. I think he just did that so that HE would always be in the frame.
I've heard from people that knew him that in addition to making great acid he was a giant asshole
Diaspora! great vocab on Phil!
An enjoyable and thought provoking read. The host comes across as impatient.
Phil wasn't given much time here. Such a short interview.
Phil sounds like Leonard Nimoy.
And Mickey Hart looked like Spock on occasion.
He’s “old school” California
Unbroken Chain ❤ still holding strong
Hey there, we're collecting all the episodes of The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson. Do you happen to have the full episode of this interview? or any other episodes?
Why would you do that? Sounds like self torture.
I have meet a number and times. He is a hoot.
Craig ferguson sounded like he was trying let Phil know Im right on you after every question it seemed like craig was eyeballing him, watching with an eagles eye on every answer like he was critiquing him and if he gave a just off answer it was very cold and intimidating, even toward the end he never really gave him any warmth or kindness or real friendliness at the very end when he just shook his hand and looked the other way.
he's clearly a sad man that knows phil has something he'll never have. Inner love. These people are low vibration and feed off negative energy they create in others. Small pathetic man with a pathetic little ego. Phil gave him NOTHING to work with. Lovely guy.
I thought he looked drunk
Look at those kicks!
Early Craig.. a few years later I think this would have been a much more generative conversation
Deadheads change the world and Craig helped wish Phil would have given a nod to Bill Walton. Garcia once opened a show with this line for Bill and his friends. This one’s for you Larry this is how we light up an arena
Nice intro
Everywhere
I love Greatful dead and they are rock gods. At least they will admit to taking drugs unlike some other bands. PINK F🛸👽🙀🙀🙀💖
phill dosed at pretty much every dead show he played and probably still does :)
Never considered myself a Dhead but I did drive a cab in Oakland and picked up my share of them. He worked at
KPFA ( est. 1949) which I think changed a lot of things. Here is something else out of Berkeley, Oh Happy Day : ruclips.net/video/EfGDvDGE7zk/видео.html I'm not religious but it is a great song.
Gotta agree with some other commenters, Ferguson really screwed this interview up while Phil Lesh was just being his humble cool self.
haven't seen that much Craig Ferguson, maybe a dozen interviews
enough to wonder if this is the only time Craig ever raised the topic of social change
Technically, Phil answered that wrong: there are Three founding members alive, the fourth Mickey Hart joined the band around September 67!
Would have liked a longer, more in-depth interview.
Best show I ever hallucinated at
"Is she okay?" 🤣😂🤣😂
I miss L ✨✨✨✨✨✨
I used to be so into the dead up until I realized it was just another facet of the social engineering machine.
In my opinion just as the host said it made him " Crazy " ive always felt that Acid is mostly research chemicals and probly what he had and the real thing i know me and my cats called it just "L". In fact i wouldn't even take it if it was presented as acid. Only L. Anyone else have this experience?
Yes %100 LSD25 and ACID are super different acid is ussaly RC analog that makes folks see things Vs real L is a mind state
👂 🌎 ❤
let Phil sing
Please God no!!!!
🐺🎶
Phil was so cool he could do a show on acid?
Take a look at Kensington PA videos . That is the result of : Tune in , turn on , and drop out . Drugs have ruined the lives of millions..... including one of Phil's best friends
every silver lining's got a touch of grey
The first 60 seconds reminded me of colonoscopy photos.
Only a few bands....IMO...that I would see 10 shows or more in a row and EVERY SHOW was different...."Life is like a Dead show....you never know what you might get" forget about a box of Chocolate 😎✌️
Seen plenty of shows after 95.
Last so many yrs , it's only been " Phil & friends " mostly in Westchester, NY.
Dead & company is a lot of kids who dress up in tydie and try to create a scene they missed. I just felt every bit of my 66 yrs at citi field .
The music will never stop,but the scene seemed weird.
Small venues to catch wolf bros, and the capital in Port Chester, for Phl for live music is my path after 45 yrs.
🌹💀⚡️✌️🎶❤️
Same feeling here...I had stopped in 1993 to not soil my live Dead image any further. Ignored all reunions until 2017 and saw Dead and Company. So slow and a weird scene....wish I had not gone.
Same here. Living on Long Island the drive to the Cap is very doable, and Port Chester is great for a home base when doing multiple back to back Phil and Friends shows. While at the Halloween shows rumor was Phil’s contract had, as of that night, been fulfilled with Shapiro and wouldn’t be coming back. Hard to believe. We shall see. And yeah, Dead and Co scene is not like the Old days. Whatchagonnado! Keep on dancin…
I got into The Grateful Dead when I was 8 years old, and Touch of Grey music video came out. I saw one of their last shows with Jerry in 95 when I was a junior in high schooI. I just can't get into the Dead and company. It's just not the same without Jerry. Im glad people still enjoy their music live, but for me its just not something that i can get into.
@@ryansmurda1552 The music never stopped.
@@ryansmurda1552
Im with ya.✌️😁
...I'm glad thier music 🎶 lives on.
However, after 95....The bus I got on in Watkins Glen
lost a part that can never be replaced.
I have so many great memories.of history , music ,and shows.
Some clear, others maybe a little foggy.
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile ⚡️🌹✌️❤️🎶💀
Impedance mismatch.
I got a signed copy on line for like five bucks 🤗
I hesitate to correct Phil but in 2005 there were only 3 surviving founders; Phil, Bill, Bobby; with Pigpen and Jerry deceased. Mickey joined a couple of years after the beginning.
I don’t believe Phil cares about start dates in the definition of OG. If you played with Jerry your OG in some folks definition haha. Good point though man.
don't forget Keith Godchaux
lesh hammed it up a bit but made the point.. the dead were/are about community tradition and transcendence..
Best Phil chat show (only) I ever saw
We want Phil
Phil is talkin man. I hope people are hearin him. The Dead are not a band, they are a lifestyle, a religion if you will. Only the best parts of religion, none of the negative bullshit. Im an atheist so i use religion as a noun and nothing more.
Philharmonic.
Phil handled this interview well. I’m not sure who the guy is interviewing him but he seems to be rather immature and ignorant. Phil is a class act. Jerry was as well but would have walked away.
*”Donor Rap”*
do yourself a favor and skip to about 1:30
And here I thought Phil and Craig were gonna be "on" LSD... perhaps after the show.
On = speaking about
Now we have medical mushrooms!
I caught the dead from 79 to 94, didn’t make it the last year, saw over 300 shows at least 75 JGB shows. I live amongst the social change everyone is talking about. It’s called Los Angeles also known as Detroit with better weather. Born in Manhattan. The major cities in America are lost. Bad news for me, I’m a elevator mechanic I’ve got no choice. I do have memories. Can’t vote your way out of this situation. It’s too late.
Just a matter of where you look and what you’re looking for my man. There’s an awful lot of shit out there & also a plentiful heaping of good kind hearted folks just trying to live a good life. Sounds like you’re one of them. Bottom line is you have the power to create your own reality. Peace
@@richieboy6825 no surprise but a definite chuckle
after reading that tired blind smug BS cliche
"you have the power to create your own reality"
to look up & see the voice's self-chosen handle is "rich(i.e.)boy"
speak for yourself when ignoring millions of others' reality
"my man" fit the whole comment's pompous condescension like a glove
& wasn't "over 300 shows" from "'79 to '94" evidence you missed that he'd already
REALly
"created" his "own reality"
to the degree to which he was logistically able
a point you sure seem to have missed posing in front of yr mirror
@@oughtssought1198 glad you had a definite chuckle my man! Peace.
What a "dopey" interview. What a dopey interviewer. Love how he tosses the book aside.
@@berryseinfeld6772 no he's right it is a Dopey interview
*spoiler alert: the guy running his mouth at the beginning spoils the interview....
Really disappointed by the interviewer. He managed to stay right on the surface and ask click bait gotcha stereotype questions. Phil stayed above it towering in intellect and calm. Ferguson must not connect with his sister if he can’t connect and respect phill. Sad.
what’s with the wierd stuff at the front
Tryin to be psychedelic I reckon
It was pretty dumb. The same way they ruined the Grateful Dead movie’s concert footage with that crap. If I want to see fractals I’ll smoke some dmt.
I am watching this during Ketamine treatments 🫶🏼🙏🏼
dog
Spirit of the 60’s stopped the war, but did not stop the draft. Or was it the other way around? Always changing yet always remaining the same.
Wow, watching Craig Ferguson try to take one cheap shot after the other with this interview, especially regarding LSD, when he's clearly shitcanned every night is pathetic. It's painfully which one of these human beings sobered up and is living his best life while still doing what he loves. Have another one Craig! 🍻 Oh, and there's nothing like the Grateful Dead. They're one of the most positive legacies to come out of the 60s and their music is as Americana as apple pie. It doesn't surprise me that Phil gets a lot of simple "Thank you's" when his fans meet him...
being outrageously provocative w over-the-top confrontational questions
was the style of his show from the dozen interviews Ive seen
In my eyes he dialed that down in this interview
guests on this show all rode with the flow knowing that that was the show's style
most did what Phil does here, played verbal ping pong back at the host, all in fun
Reddy Kilowatt!
Wow, that interviewer is annoying. Good for Phil to just roll with it.