Watch This BEFORE Buying a New Hyundai Santa Cruz: Here's Your TFL Expert Buyer's Guide!
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Something I'm realizing in the new car market is that the bare bones base models of most of these vehicles still have more features than I want.
It's kinda cool watching you guys review a car I build everyday at the Hyundai Plant.
You like being ridiculed for building a piece of crap? Like all hyundai's?
What's your unbiased opinion on the car in terms of quality and reliability?
@@souxiong4363 not an opinion Read the articles on hyundia and kia engines that fail in first 20k to 50k miles, known design defect. I know 3 people who fought for.months to get warranty replacement motors, not on reached 30k miles before blowing up. Google it, not opinion it is know fact they put out tens of thousands of bad designed engines. How is that for unbiased fact
What’s your opinion on this car/truck?
Thanks for building my limited
"That's not gonna do anything ur just humping my truck" 😂😂😂. Yall have the best job on the planet, keep up the fantastic work gents.
Wow. The one he bought is cheaper but it is way nicer. The dials are so nice, and call me old school, but I really like the mechanical dials for speed and fuel etc. plus a more reliable power train. Just a better buy. Great job Nathan
Is it not a dual clutch transmission?
@@dm19609721 it is
@@dm19609721the lower model engine is a regular torque converter automatic.
I have a 2023 Sel fwd with the non turbo and I am getting 27 to 30 combined mpg with 50/50 city/ hwy. Love it so far after 1500 miles.
Is it gutless? Do you know how much highway 🛣 mpg?
This video was just what I was looking for. Most people have videos of test driving the top-of-the-line, and I wanted to see an SE or SEL. Thank you so much for posting this!
Just to claify at 20:56, the NIGHT trim (New for 2023) DOES include the 2.5T with the DCT. It is very close to a base SEL in terms of equipment but with the larger engine. 21:20 California Sand is available as an exterior color and reaplced Mojave Sand. They look very close.
Also to clarify, the headlights are dramatically different. The SEL premium and up and projector LEDs. The SEL and SE have halogens in a projector housing, which are less than stellar
@@wtfx5757 Correct!
@@wtfx5757 The night trim also sadly gets the halogen
@@wtfx5757 2024 models all get the LEDs, no more halogens.
Bought a 2022 SEL in July. In August, someone backed out of a parking space beside me and sideswiped me. I am 71 and it's the first new truck I ever owned. Anyway, I love the truck. It's just what my wife and needed.
The interior is so nice for the money. It makes the Maverick interior look like a Rubbermaid garbage can.
After driving the SEL, SEL activity awd, Night , and the SEL premium. I went with the SEL activity AWD. Personally didn’t need the turbo, not to mention the dct was a limiting factor for me. I hit traffic a lot and I plan on occasionally going to the beach, so the dct wouldn’t be the best for me. I average anywhere from 25 to 30 mpg with my heavy foot. Mine came with majority of the SEL premium features, which was a plus.
Like the more basic dash/instrument cluster over the higher end one!
Great choice Nathan, IMO it's interior is much nicer than it's competition.
Its much more expensive than say a Maverick in base form.
@@John-kx3ng I bought a Maverick for my teen son, no doubt it’s a great value. I like the look and power train of the hybrid Maverick much more than the Santa Cruz but it’s bit noisy and the interior quality reflects the low price point (the seats are very comfortable though).
Wish Subaru would bring back an updated Baja.
Nathan, I know you need to break in your vehicle properly but an Ike challenge between these two would be epic. Even a lighter tow like 1500lbs with fuel mileage and performance differences would rock! Thanks for the content on these vehicles!
Can not wait for Nathan to tow a 2k lb pop up or small cargo trailer with his! Been waiting for a video like it since the Santa Cruz came out.
Nathan made the right call skipping the DCT, this Santa Cruz can be quite good off-road with a conventional automatic
Ive been enjoying my Santa Cruz Limited. Fun, fast, versatile and perfect for my hobbies
Had 2 but sold one, keeping base plus SEL with AWD to keep the cost low and loving it. Yeah it seeks more power but enough to get the job done. Have done both 5 by 8 and 6 by 12 from uhaul moving and mpg went down to 15 and 12 give and take.
My former 5.3 v8 was average 16 and down to 12 to 13 when towing. Either you choose it does its job done. Love both compact and full size.
Nathan, your exterior color-Sage is much better. Yeah, call it a truck, it's so amusing to hear the whiners cry "it's not a truck". The Ridgeline and Maverick are also trucks. Let's hear it guys!
Seems liked Nathan made the right choice for his family. Will be interesting to see how the Santa Cruz is for longevity
I’m sorry to tell you that Hyundai and longevity don’t go together
@@sbs-0055 well i had kia soul with 240k on it no problems
@@bigdi77 my friend from work just passed 300k on their Soul..pretty darn good I’d say
My friend has a Kia Optima and his engine stopped working at 70k miles.
@@sbs-0055 lots of dead cylinders in their direct injection engines. Stay away
As a Ford Maverick owner, I love following this Santa Cruz content!
1) I love the dual clutch. Works fine on the farm I live on.
2) The engine is both direct injected and port injected. There are two different types of injectors for each cylinder so you get the best of both worlds.
I'm surprised to hear that because dual clutch transmissions hate crawling. They're just not designed for it. I am glad to hear the engine is dual injected. Someone else told me it's GDI only, which would suck big time long term.
Ah yes.. nothing more reliable than 2 kinds of injection
Keep in mind it's a wet dual clutch. The lubrication in a wet dual clutch reduces wear and tear on the transmission and it also keeps the transmission cool.
@@danh655 dual injection is the better bet than GDI alone. It solves the infamous sissue of carbon buildup. Every Hyundai GDI 4cyl. since 2011 has been crap when their prior MPI engines were quite decent. I'm hoping this new 2.5 dual injected engine is at least as good as their old MPI engines.
@@palebeachbum good info.. just been seeing a lot of DI engines come through the shop with bad seals on the injectors, high pressure fuel system or both. mostly Hyundai's or Chevy with small displacement turbos. I don't know if carbon is the sole culprit, but it's interesting to follow
Wow I am really glad I got mine when I did! Mine was 31,200 100k warranty is where the price deference is between the ford and Hyundai is I also got lifetime Synthetic Oil changes too. Ford is 3/36 and one first Oil change free.
Thanks guys, great video. I bought a 2023 SEL Premium w/ Hitch and 7Pin wiring. 350 miles on it as of today. I've never had so much fun at the dump. Our two Lectric eBikes fit folded in the bed. We plan to buy a E-Pro 19fds travel trailer soon, the numbers on my spreadsheet look like they add up. I'm thinking about getting a Weigh Safe TTWD-Middleweight when they come out in January (please do a video on it 🙂). My wife and I met in 1969 and have owned several pickups and 2 Rubicon's over the years. Last night we went to an air show and sat on a tailgate for the very first time. So far, we love this pickup... Oh yea, most important my mother-in-law who is 92 had to be able to easily get into the back seat. We call it the BUM-PLOP test. Yea!!
I am so glad I got mine in August of 21. Before the the price Hikes and the Crazy BS . I now have 23k on mine. Its my Swiss Army Knife! It Pulls my 19foot Rockwood RV with no problem anywhere you want to go. I have a Video on you tube showing it.
The 20inc wheels are totally useless and more expensive! The 18s give you way more opportunities and options for tire choices too. I Love this little Truck and I have had many. This little Swiss Army Knife is the Mustang of my Youth! Not Kidding and people just keep talking to Us about this Truck. Mostly People my age in our 60s and 70s . Our Kids and Grandchildren Say it Kool Pop Pop ! The interior looks like the Star Ship Enterprise! I am the captain! But ! It's a dust collector keep a nice Dust Cloth in the door or console with you all the time. But its so worth it. Really! I should be selling them or at least a few bucks from Hyundai. I hope they come out with a Yellow and Black Model! I am a long time Hot Rod guy for years and it's my Favorite. But this Stone Blue is Beautiful too. I have Black Flames Ordered for the Sides of it and a Black Simigloss Hood black out!
My 2023 Kia Sorento SX Prestige has those cameras on the display when the turn signals are on I love it
The only reason I would buy a Santa Cruz over a Maverick is for the warranty. Ford really needs to offer a better warranty to compete. Even a 5-year 50K warranty would be a welcome upgrade.
Also, the headlights on the SEL Premium are LED, which is why you see 4 bulbs, and the night edition is turbo.
Love the detailed comparison. I really like Nathan's configuration there!
I’m glad Nathan is back.
We Love the Sun roof Heated seats! The self driving mode ! It really works great after you get used to it . Long Trips or no problem! I Love the Paddle Shifters and the Select shift on the stick! We did go through the reprogram for the transmission! But never had a problem with it if the first place
This was very helpful. I’ve heard a lot of bad things about the dual clutch transmission, and the HP transmission is a lot better in the lower powered vehicle. I am looking to get one. Because Toyota is taking too long to come out with their small truck Toyota stout.
Andre waiting for Nathan to finish talking before closing the hood...
He was being so polite and patient
Only the Most expensive gas the cameras and 360 View. After the first Oil change it will get better. Even better with the KN filter. And better if you take the huge resonator off. The K&N eliminates the turbo lag Completely! Seriously! Awesome! Amazon has it for $65 bucks. Well worth it.
My wife and I stopped by the local dealer on Saturday to check one out. I set my seating position for a driver at 6’ 1”, 215lbs. My wife is 5’ 6” and her knees were hitting the seat back. Cannot consider this because my teenage boys are closing in on six feet now with room to grow. Still looks like a nice vehicle but it seems to be for 1 or 2 people, not more than that.
Trucklet, very apt naming. FCA should cut the back off the Jeep Cherokee, it’d probably look and work better
you guys doing these buyers guide info videos is awesome....im ready to buy new but the prices are just too high...nearing retirement i dont need or want a ten year car loan to keep the price low
Thanks for being my best friends, guys.
Nathan wanted a Power Wagon but got the Santa Cruz. LOL
At least he doesn’t have to modulate the accelerator pedal on the Santa Cruz. You just floor it and forget about just like driving a school bus.
I wonder if hyundai will create ultimate versions of all their gasoline cars with some enthusiast appeal, given the switch to electric only just a few years away. Some kind of high power rally-ish santa cruz would be pretty cool
Hyundai calls it the N line. They have not did a santa cruse yet. An awd rally would be way cool.
I like the split rear seats, the Maverick has pre-wired circuits on each side of the bed to help with DIY projects like lights, compressors, or inverters. I hate all the Piano Black Kia and Hyundai uses on their interiors, instantly looks like crap because of dust and smears.
I hate it too. I agree that it looks horrible when it gets dirty. I have a window cleaner wipes and a dust cloth in my front seat that I’m always using on my 22’. But it wasn’t a deal breaker for me.
Oh yeah! The 18inch Tires are more better and Go on the Beach Better! I am getting more aggressive Tires next time.
That SEL is exactly the same truck I plan on buying in the next year or two. I don't want that digital dash or the 10 inch touch screen in the middle...I much prefer the real gauges and buttons on the dash.
Would have been awesome if they made a camper shell that was a foot high than the roof line.
❤ 👍 🎯 🤔 😀
Just picked up a 2024 SEL AWD like yours Nathan,
Loving it so far..
Love the new Santa Cruz, Nathan . . . I'll be looking for all the videos about the Sage Gray Green machine!
I ordered a Ford Maverick January 2022 and then found the SC and bought it. Good news! Ford just emailed me yesterday to tell me my Maverick is being built next week. Get bent Ford.
for me the only tech that makes sense are Bluetooth and backup camera..everything else will break and cost more money in the future.
People should know that versions with the halogen headlights are real pain to drive at night. Worst headlights I’ve ever had on a vehicle. Changing out with aftermarket LEDS we’re not much of an improvement.
I have the SEL Premium turbo with activity package. August of 22. Got 28 k now. Pull my 5x 10 utility trailer and my 19 foot Rock Wood Camper with no problems at all ! I got the K&K filter and cut the muffler off and added twin stainless steel pipe. I paid 31,200 MSRP price. My Dealer doesn't Mark up anything like other dealers . I Love my activity package! I wish I had the hood over the speed screen
Does cutting the muffler out void any of the warranty?
Now there's a thought, why not do a comparison between these Santa Cruz pickups and the Ford Maverick?
Note, back there when Andre was showing us the rear cargo area,..is it NOT dust proof?
I have been waiting for this video from the day the Santa Cruz came out! Thanks. Off road test next!
I would love to see a off road comparison between the two powertrains in Andre's Pit!
Off road in that? Lol it is street suv with top chop on cargo area
Actually the truck Nathan owns is not bad off road with 4 x 4. The turbo model burns transmission oil off road. Naturally aspirated engine is better.
8000 miles on mine SEL AWD Activity package and tow package with the roof rack 2.5 non turbo averaging 29 - 30 miles to the gallon. I have the bed extender to get more space in the bed when needed. pulls my 5*8 trailer with no issues. Mine has the all digital dash and no knobs for the info center
Good choice. That’s what I would get
It is easy too add a front camera. The brand is TypeS wireless camera that can be use on the front or rear of your vehicle. Have one and love it!
The problem I have with those is they don't last long eventually they lag. Or don't connect correctly
I love my 22 santa cruz limited. Traded my 21 nissan titan pro 4x in on it earlier in the year when I was going to do more traveling.
man i go for the 8 speed auto every day over the more expensive one
Hyundai should be more consistent. We have a palisade SEL and it’s more loaded than the premium Santa Cruz, by quite a bit actually. The SEL should be the same options types of packages throughout, I can see how that could confuse people going between models.
My ‘21 Taco 2.7 hunts for gears even when off. My engine cover says “Husqvarna”.
The dual clutch transmission is a dealbreaker on the higher trim model.
🇺🇸 I'd buy ridgeline!
Dual Clutch transmission for a mini truck, not even CVT? Just one question why????
I just bought the SEL yesterday, it's perfect for a small family that enjoys comping from time to time. I won't tell you how much I paid because it was a lot less.
I have a night edition and it does have the turbo engine
I am happy for Nathan but I feel like he didn’t buy what he really really wanted and he’s just trying to justify and make himself believe he made the right choice. Either way I wish you the best Nathan, enjoy!
I aimed for the Ridgeline, or Frontier, but they were out of my budget.
I hate the timing belt in the ridgeline.
I’m very shocked these guys haven’t addressed the many recalls and issues Hyundai/KIA have had with their engines (and dual clutch transmission) including the newer Theta III engines found in the Santa Cruz . There’s a reason Hyundai/KIA recently had to set aside $2.2 billion for warranty issues. Are they unaware of these issues or complicit like the rest of car media?
I'm pretty sure they have. Nathan has said countless times that he didn't want the dual clutch transmission
They talk about it 3.5min into the video…
The Theta II was the charge, not the III. The problem with that one is understood and documented ad nauseum.
Significantly less recalls than Ford....
Do you even watch videos before you post your know-it-all drivel?
Need to have more interior color options other then black.
suitcase test and tote test maybe a light towing
Sparse interior. I've looked around, and a base model maverick with 4 wheel drive for around $25,000 is the best value. It doesn't have the hybrid engine, but it's more dependable, and it still gets 30 MPG. The Santa Cruise is hard to sell because it's way overpriced. Subaru had the same problem with the Baja. It was overpriced. One of these car-maker pinheads should make a 2 seat sport truck with very few options, standard AWD, all electric, 150 miles range, heat/AC, radio, and a place to plug in my phone. Picture all weather commuter car with a motorcycle price. $15,000
We bought a 2023 Santa Cruz SEL in November. Love it BUT the passenger seat isn't electric. Since I'm 5'1" I have to sit on a cushion. The driver's seat is power, I think they should both be electric.
Another issue is there's no built-in compass. Tough for the directionally challenged LOL
One more issue, I have to buy an after market rear view mirror to link it with our garage door opener.
I still love ❤️ it and praying it lasts as long as our 2005 Jeep Liberty which currently has over 200,000mi plus has a compass and link to garage door opener (but no safety measures like the Hyundai).
2023 Limited is $41,615 including destination.
The only Hyundai I would remotely consider.
I miss the Subaru Baja
Thanks for your Comment :)
Love mine 2in lift 265 60 r18 bf Goodrich Baja champion tires flood lights on hood I get looks all the time
Can you elaborate on why the 8 spd non turbo is more suitable for off-road purposes than the DCT version?
Dcts get overheated if you are off-roading.
I am waiting for the Toyota or Nissan version of the Maverick and Santa Cruz
More variety and options in the car world is better for all of us.
I had an issue with the DCT in the 2019 Kia Niro and they wouldn't believe me until I brought it in a year later and they had to replace the entire transmission after it rough shifting after every stop.
Jane's Addiction. Excellent. Enough said.
Can u change out the grill for a black one like on the Night. That is so cool w/the black grill, blk wheels & black truck?
You can plasti dip the grill.
To each it's own but I would rather wait for toyota's newer truck when it comes out a couple years,especially since inflation is still here, thanks for the great video
Inflation will still be here.
@@wtfx5757 hopefully not, and hopefully not a recession either
Good luck dealing with Toyota mark ups
@@tommyterryrosarich We've been in a recession for months now. Pay attention.
That will never get to market as being pitched.
Nice job Andre and Nathan!
Too bad that bed is so small. Yeah 46 grand for the Limited you can get a Tacoma Sport or Ridgeline for less with a REAL bed and certainly better in tough conditions if you need it.
I bought a 22 Santa Fe with the 191 hp motor , my mom has a 21 murano and my car is way more fast than the murano, the murano literally feels so heavy and slow compared to the Santa Fe , yet it had almost 70 more hp
If only they used the regular 8 spd auto trans on all the trims of the Santa Cruz. The dual clutch version is trouble. (And yes warranty would cover any issues but let's be real, do you really want to have a tech remove the motor and trans and stick a new one in? Its never put back together right. Im sure some techs will do a perfect job but when it comes to warranty work its all about speed...maybe some holts aren't tight, maybe wiring isn't routed or clipped back to the way it waa from factory). I don't trust dealership repair work anymore, no matter the brand)
Stay away from dual clutch transmission from huyndai or other normal car manufacturers. They don't have good reputation. If u want dual cluth stick to high end car manufacturers.
Sel premium still have cloth seats
Very happy that in Canada they have a lot fewer "packages". We basically have 2...both have the bigger 2.5L engine, and the differences are really just cosmetic and "luxury" features. IMO this makes the buying process easier
Still sucks that I can't buy in Canada just non turbocharged SC. Instead of 45K I would pay under 40K for SEL.
I've dolly towed my Veloster N to the track three hours away multiple times. Car plus dolly is 4000 pounds.
Didn't Nathan also buy something totally unexpected for his wife's car few years ago? Wasn't it a Mitsubishi or something like that?
The only time I feel the anemia of the non-turbo is if I’m already at a higher RPM/speed and ask it for a bit more. There’s very little in reserve. At lower speeds it can be quite peppy.
How long have these two been a couple?
I have the sel premium!! Without turbo & have activity pkg . The premium limited has the turn signal camera ! Love my SC !!😊
If you have a cover on your phone it won't change. I leave my Cruzer in Smart so it will change to Sport or other on its own.
I'm very curious as to regular everyday interstate driving on the lower sel model? Non Turbo. How long does it take to get to 70/75 mph? If I'm cruising at 75 and have to pass a truck quickly can I? Or is it very sluggish trying to pass someone with a burst of speed?
To 80mph in Texas highway 8.5 second. I’d stay in sport-mode if you need pass slow drivers.
Haul Firewood and old motorcycles. Score one Maverick.
Makes a great around town truck...ish vehicle
Dont you have as an option the Dodge Ram 700 and Ram1100?
The Turbo is Faster than my 68Torino GT 390 big block 0 to 60 in5.5 seconds with the KN filter and the 3rd muffler off . I get 36 Interstate and 27 city.
I found a $27k for a 2022 Hyundai Santa Cruz with 9,800mi on it. CARFAX says good value, regular oil change.
Do you think it’s worth it?
I’m thinking just buy it brand new after noticing the msrp, but so many dealers are asking like a few thousand dollars above msrp.
I like SEL with 8 speed transmission my local dealership have a lot of the two wheel base SE for $33,000 but got limited all wheel drive for $40+
Went over there and ask for a SEL will drive with A tow package only they want to told me $38,525 for it.
That's MSRP?
Marking them up.