If Miami leaves the ACC, who should they bring with them? l College Football Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- The ACC is facing lawsuits from Clemson and Florida State in which both schools are attempting to leave the league to join the SEC or the Big 10. If Miami were to join them and Notre Dame stays independent, who should they try and bring with them to get into the Power 2?
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Better job this time. Good show. You did well. The main thing regards to Big Ten expansion you’re starting to hone in on now is marquee football history program with viewership in a recruit rich larger/growing population area. The academics/research is important, but don’t have to be, say, top 10 type , just above average. Notre Dame is a standing ask. So, FSU and Clemson and Miami meet all those. The Q is UNC and North Carolina State. Do they want to join the Big Ten, will they separate to do it for UNC only? Georgia Tech is an outlier because of the Atlanta area market and academics/research. They are not that interested in Virginia/Virginia Tech. If enough room, after such, is Pitt.
Miami ain’t getting into another conference 12,000 student body no stadium subpar facilities in a small fanbase. Nope don’t bring it enough to the table.
Exactly! They will be a Big 12 school.
Subpar facilities?? You really are uninformed. They just had a new indoor practice field, new weight room, new dorms, and are building a 150 million dollar football office complex and football recruiting center . As for no stadium Coral Gables property is very expensive or non existent. And isn't Northwestern in the B1G with a small student enrollment (also a private school) . Miami will not go to the Big 12.
@@4daCanes Some of the non producers in the SEC and Big Ten will soon be terminated. Watch!
@@4daCanes congratulations you just listed all the reasons why you’re not gonna get in to a big conference the big 12 already has USF Miami is a day late and a dollar short
@@4daCanes yes subpar facilities, you are building new things which means you’re currently using crappy things also 70% of all the other colleges built this stuff over a decade to go and you still have no stadium
Miami is prob a 50/50 shot to end up in the Big12 or Big10 (no SEC). If FSU goes to the SEC, then they have a stronger chance of getting in the Big10. If FSU goes to the Big10, it almost kills Miami's chances to the Big10 - FSU/Miami are not a package deal and are not desired as such. Can't see Miami going to the SEC - it's just not a fit at all.
Spencer since you referred to your Spiderman sense, you really need think of realignment in Batman and Robin candidates. ND, FSU, Clemson, UNC are Batman schools. They can get invites to P2 conferences by themselves. Miami, UVA, GT and other ACC schools are Robin schools. They only get P2 invites if they go as a pair with a Batman school. Miami with AAU makes them the top ACC Robin school. IMO Miami doesn’t have a P2 landing spot and could easily end up being a B12 school.
Unless FSU or ND brings Miami to the Big 10, Miami will stay in the ACC instead of paying a large exit fee of > $100m
@@davidbrown386exactly my point. Miami would be a Robin school for P2 but a Batman school for the B12. It will be interesting to see what happens.
I would agree with your Batman/Robin analogy in all but one respect.
I believe Virginia can be a Batman school (for the Big10 only) simply because of Academics, Endowment level, AAU status and would lock down the DC/Northern Virginia market - plus gives you more reach into the Maryland/Delaware - West Virginia areas. The northern Virginia and DC area is loaded with Big10 school alumni with even more with recently added schools.
I'm very much here for this analogy/metaphor
Actually I believe Miami was given an unofficial invite to the B1G before FSU. I know fsu has a short memory but Miami and ND got Aau status when fsu got turned down. University of Michigan and Ohio state presidents pulled strings to get Miami in. They also want Miami in the B1g along with FOX. Plus Miami academics are better than fsu our recruiting and nil programs are top 5 unlike you got it fsu. The rent there players for a year no development. Also Miami research is a big money maker.
UM will bring Louisville, Duke, GATech, Syracuse, BC and Wake to the Big12. Based on TV Revenue….
Miami's best chance at a P2 is FSU joining the SEC. If that happens, Big 10 would take Miami and UNC. Miami has beest TV numbers in ACC after FSU and Clemson, biggest TV market and best recruiting.
Wrong question to ask, you should ask who would take Miami in their conference…=
no one!!!🦆
Big 12 would in a heartbeat. Miami would be their biggest brand and a good travel partner for UCF. Obviously they want in the power 2 but if FSU goes to the BIG, I could see them left out.
No better partner for Miami than N.D.
Let’s bring back Catholics vs Convicts
oh thats good!!!
VANDY to the B10!
Here is my take: If the Big 10 cannot get ND or FSU, I would just as remain at 18 schools, rather then dilute the product and of course $.Basically say NO to any ACC school unless ND or FSU is bringing another school with them.ps. That means Miami or even Clemson ( due to poor academics).
Why couldn't it get FSU? Seminoles are literally desperate for a P2 invite
@@LockedOnCollegeFootball I think he is saying if FSU goes to the SEC. I think FSU's desired destination is the Big10.
@@SuperWarJam I can't tell yet
Sec has no real need to add FSU they are interested in UNC.
Does the $255M war chest include the exit fees of an estimated $5 - $10M a school?
nope, and they just settled the suit like an hour ago. 50M in payments withheld from the 10 leaving from this years earnings, and each also owe 1.5M exit fee (extra), so thats another 65M.
Miami administration fleeced the program for 20 years, using pre 2002 success to fund its programs. Donna Shala was the catalyst, in the last 2.5 years the new president has gone all in on the football team and first sign of progress are the two highest recruiting classes ever at Miami. First time in many years returned both coordinators ( showing they are finally paying the staff well). Year 3 should bring it all together with a winning team 9+ should be the minimum. Let's see how it plays out this year. It comes at a time when Miami needs to look good for the shifting landscape.
I don't think one 10 win season in 20+ years is going to change what conference they end up in.
@@SuperWarJam sure, but decisions are being made with varying timelines ... so this would be the time to get UM to be relevant on the national stage again.
I feel bad for WSU loosing their basketball coach to Stanford. 17:18
Me too. It's a bummer and a half
The U brand is definitely a B1G fit!!!! B1G will get FSU UNC ND and Miami !!!
Yes, but you for forgot a 2. UM is Big 12 bound. TV Revenue is not enough for a private school that has 2500 students per class. Problem is UM cost $400,000 to get a degree there. Great school but no alumni base.
I don't know that the big 10 is going to accept a traveling companion team with Miami, if indeed they end up with Miami.... just because Miami wants to have a team they can beat more regularly. The Big 10 is going to want teams that make them more competitive, both on the field and with finances, with the SEC. If the SEC continues to expand... Because we're talking revenue shares. That's probably going to take precedent over academics.... Personally, I'm not sold it Florida State is going to go to the SEC over the Big ten. It could be.... If ESPN helps Florida State get a better settlement on their buyout. If they don't, then I think they're coming to the Big ten.
Big10 is, by all accounts, the favorite to land FSU based on credible folks that cover FSU.
Miami would not "bring" anyone to the Big 10. They would be "brought" by a program like FSU.
From what I gather, FSU is content to leave little brother behind back in 2003.
And Cade Klubnick led Clemson to their worst season ever without DJ so yeah, you don't know shit lol
LMAO. Who would "follow" Miami and why. That's a joke. Miami is maybe 4th in the pecking order of ACC teams, if that.
Miami’s already made it abundantly clear, they’re NOT leaving the ACC!
Utah said the same thing, but when the ship is sinking they will jump.
Calling it now Miami is joining the big12
Only way that happens is if the ACC implodes and both the Big ten and the SEC, somehow don't want Miami. But there's a lot of reasons why that would not be likely.
@@ramspencer5492 If Moral Gables were wanted, they would have voted AGAINST adding 3 new teams. Moral Gables made it more difficult to dissolve the conference because they don't have a spot lined up.
It's possible Miami does not have thier own football stadium, that no one shows up to anymore.
Historically, the Big 10 doesn’t always want traveling partners when they expand. Back in the day(my day, not your’s), Michigan State joined the Big 10 alone. More recently, so did Penn State and then Nebraska. It’s only been more recently that they took traveling partners. Rutgers/Maryland, USC/UCLA & Oregon/Washington.
They not leaving lol probably going BIg12
I’m not saying where Miami CAN go. I am saying they are going NOWHERE if they think they can just sit and wait and get out without a fight. The ACC will clutch to hold on even tighter every time a team leaves.
Everyone will have to fight to leave, but FSU/Clemson might help make the process shorter for Miami if they come up with the same dollar figure
The only people who truly think that Miami will be left out if FSU fans that are trolling
This
Why hasn't Moral Gables sued yet? Why did they vote to add 3 new teams when dissolving the conference would make it free to get out? You know Stanford, Cal, and SMU aren't voting to dissolve.
Answer: Moral Gables doesn't have a landing spot.
@@encycl07pedia- no it's bc they're playing is smarter than clemson and fsu. You'll see who has to pay hundreds of millions and who doesn't.
I'm a Buckeye fan, and I'm telling you Miami can't drive a B1G expansion deal. They don't have the eyeballs.
@@pnut3844able Right. Voting to expand the ACC when you're trying to leave is as smart as running the ball instead of taking a knee. It's a Canez thang!
Miami isn't leading anything.... they will be hoping to ride FSU's coat tails.
The ACC is toast.
Why would anyone want a school who can barely fill an end zone and is about as relevant now in fb as Indiana is in bb? Biggest loser fan base ever. Big 12 already has their Florida school.
Washington st and Oregon St are done! Your comments are laughable!
FSU takes Miami with them
most likely ND
Nope!
Let me rephrase that. Miami is the 3rd option with FSU but ND will be stubborn and UNC to SEC. If either of them go BIG then Miami won't be FSU tag along. I don't see Clemson going BIG and SEC will want them but currently don't have the votes (SC, GA,FL, Aub, Alabama, Ole Miss and Miss St)
FSU fans would be fine with leaving Moral Gables behind; their perennial failure is partially why we're in this mess. Whether the administration of FSU and the B1G agree is another thing.
Moral Gables stabbed FSU, Clemson, and UNC in the back by voting to expand the ACC. They don't have a landing spot.
@@crabcakesandfootball4619 The FSU fanbase is fine either way. It would be hilarious if Moral Gables got left behind. The question is: who wants Moral Gables?
Go Ducks!!!