That smile Negan gave Maggie was more about Negan being at peace with himself. He finally let go of Lucille, his evil alter ego, his shame, forgave himself and is ready to face his new life or death whichever it may be. At least that's how I took it.
@@FEARNoMore no Hershel is far too young. And even if he finds out Negan killed his dad, he wouldn't want revenge or anything because he never met Glenn
Especially for a man who was the show’s biggest villain for 2 seasons. It’s crazy how TWD has gotten us to love Negan after all he’s done. He’s been my favorite character ever since S8 and never fails to disappoint
@@MistaUnicorn Most well developed character I've ever seen... bearing in mind I don't watch any tv shows apart from this and impractical jokers! They both caught my eye and reeled me in so damn much.
@@Emily_Grace_Barnes I've loved Negan since his introduction but I don't think I really considered him my FAVORITE until Season 8, and especially Season 9.
Not really. they're going along with the comic story. negan actually wants Maggie to kill him because he feels he deserves it. that's why he goes back to end it.
I'm thinking it's a little tease that Duane may be alive. So when Morgan said "all I see is red", we all assumed he meant all the blood. But now it could've meant he was just angry🤷♀️
@@lewis0705 I definitely do not think that was a tease to Duane being alive. lol. “see red” is a popular saying to someone being absolutely furious. Morgan was angry with what happened to Duane, hence what he said to Rick. :3
I agree 100% my favorite used to be Rick but Negans got alot more character and personality. I love that they made a guy I hated into my favorite character. Thats good writing!
@@michaelaction7031 Dude you can literally see it on the letterbox...and on one of his trophies...it's referencing a joke Robert Kirkman made where fans kept asking what Negan's last name was so he just said it was Smith as a joke but the show put it in
@@lhuntley4577 Apparently on Talking Dead when they did the In Memoriam section they listed Lucille's name as Lucille Smith so it seems official I just can't get over the fact that his first name is NEGAN and he has such a vanilla last name 😂 Side note, who the hell looks at a baby and says "yeah, he looks like a Negan to me"
What a phenomenal episode! It's so great to get a reminder of why I love this show so much and how good it can be. The final season premiers August 22nd and I'm so excited!!
After last week, this was definitely that much better, but then again just about every season finale has been the best compared to a lackluster 7th and 15th episode...except for season 9...definitely should have had the pike scene in the finale!
Jeffrey Dean Morgan said two takes were taken, one with him smiling (which he added, it wasn’t scripted) and one without. The director chose the smiling one for a reason. That’s the classic Negan smirk. He’s got his mojo back.
This was probably one of my favourite walking dead episodes ever. I shed tears. It was incredible. They did Negan and Lucille justice. Amazing. And Happy Easter guys! Hope the bunny was good to your gorgeous ladies!
I was expecting something a little bit closer to the "Here's Negan" comic, but this was surprisingly good nonetheless. They could easily make another full episode focused on Negan's rise to power in the Saviors. They could bring back many of the old characters (Dwight, Simon, Sherry, etc.). Fingers crossed.
🤦🏼♂️ for the last time, the comic and the show are entirely separate at this point. Yes, there will be some similarities, but a shot-for-shot remake would not only be a bore to watch knowing what is about to happen next but also would have made this show VERY unlikely to have lasted more than 3-4 seasons...
@@collegebro85 I never said I expected a shot for shot remake, nor would I want one. "A little bit closer to" is not the same as "exactly identical to". I'm not even complaining anyway, because I really liked this episode. All I'm saying is that there was not as much focus on the Saviors as I thought there would be, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The way they did this episode provides more depth to Negan and Lucille's relationship and still leaves room for more backstory down the line.
@hahacrackhead4100 yeah i wish they'd make a negan mini series that takes place right after he killed the biker dude and ends with him hearing about Rick's group
If you remember Negan burned the face of one of his "wives" ex boyfriends because they went around behind his back and he said he doesn't tolerate cheating. And you find out, he had cheated on his wife while she was being diagnosed with cancer. Kinda put that in perspective with him after that I guess. Also, I love how Negan comes back and asks Carol for help moving back in and she's just like 'Kay'. like she knew he was going to do that.
There's also a kind of poetic symmetry in the way they depict Negan's experience, especially in this episode. His whole inner being has really been about the memory of his wife. The close of his life with his wife is in her cremation on the bed, and for me, burning the bat in the fireplace (a kind of cremation) might be his way of finally moving into present day without her.
I'm not gonna lie, I just knew Steven was gonna relate to what Negan said: "How I got so lucky that you have stuck with me". I called it, and you guys are awesome.
The last time we heard “You Are My Sunshine,” was when Negan forced Carl to sing. 😢 I think the smile at the end was just for himself - not to antagonize Maggie. He’s clearly letting go of the past by burning the bat. Negan has no more fu*ks to give.
Meaning of the smile at the end I think, it's a challenge to Maggie. He is not running anywhere, if she want it come get it. He is not afraid anymore, made peace with his past and ready to die now.
Yeah this backstory was great but I just wished they added how he started his group the saviors & how he recruited all those thousands of people that worked for him doing what he said & etc
I'm so curious about how he met Simon. If I remember correctly, He mentioned with Simon that Simon helped him take the Sanctuary or something like that.
@@kathleenclark815 No Gimple/Savior fangirl. But only if they decided to do a prequel of that GOT season with the same writers or showrunner. lol Why go through that Frankenstein, shit show again? Don't need another Gimple esc, self indulgent snail paced season either. Exhibit A, Gimple's TWD World Beyond...I rest my case.
Minus the 16 year old we heard the saviors killed via baseball bat right before they sent the message to hilltop by trying stab Gregory. (When we first learned of the saviors). This is something too many forget about.
There is also the the saviors that Daryl, Abraham and Sasha met on the road and Daryl's experience with them while with Dwight, Sherry and Sherry's sister. Rick's people had a lot of warning that Negan's people were going to be a problem that needed to be dealt with.
The song that Herschel and Maggie were singing was the same song that Carl was force to sing to Negan, it’s like negans life flashing before his eyes or his haunting pass that he put on the survivors has circled back to him and making him think on where he is in the world or where his place is in the community
@@pitnf8036 but Negan didn’t know that all he knew was that these people killed his men and took out an outpost he kinda had to retaliate in some way and from an objective standpoint 2 lives for the lives of upwards of 20/30 people is pretty fair . The only reason it’s such a bad moment is because we’ve been watching Glenn and Abraham for a while now and ave come to like and relate to them but if you strip that away it’s just two guys which once again is pretty fair for payback for the killing of upwards of 30 people .
Or more like let’s see if ppl take my side over yours because remember he did save them and got rid of alpha and helped Daryl kill beta so basically he earned his dues
I've been warming up to Negan, especially with his relationship with Judith. But I absolutely fell in love with him when he was singing "You are so Beautiful" to Lucille. 💔
Nikki’s reactions are everything 😂 She thinks it cute that Negan says “I loved the shit out of you” but immediately turns to Steve and says “don’t ever say that to me” is the most Nikki thing ever
So the original line was " I was saving that bullet. " she was planning it & she died as soon as he left, same clothes...but they changed the line cause it was a giveaway. Negan's last name is Smith!!!!!
Negan is literally one of the only reasons I still watch this show. I would love if they just gave him his own series. Sure he's not perfect and has made some mistakes. Killing Glenn and Abraham made me mad at the time and it sucks that they are dead but Neegan only killed 2 of theirs versus the dozens Rick and them killed so that makes him way less evil than the Governor even, although he is certainly more intimidating than him. Like it or not the guy gets what he wants. Im afraid now that they gave him a back story they will kill him off soon in typical TWD fashion. Oof. This is getting good! Excited for season 11!
Exactly! Glenn died because of Daryl's rashness and stupidity and because of an extremely poorly thought out decision to kill Negan and his people. They didn't even know what he looked like. It was all so dumb and look what happened.
LOVED THIS EPISODE!!! This was very far from the comic version of this but I knew that was gonna be the case...Hilarie was the best one to play Lucille without a doubt. PRAYING we see the formation of the saviors in a mini-series someday
This episode, out of the 6, really packed a punch. I swear TWD promoted this more than all the other episodes. What I really enjoyed was watching the version of Negan before he lost Lucille. A man who was, for the most part, pretty intact with his humanity. The episode didn't go beyond that, but clearly he believed shutting his emotions away was the only way he was going to make it. A series following more with Negan's past would be pretty refreshing since he's not like the other characters who for the most part try and hold onto their humanity as they fight and survive. Still, if this fully followed from his p.o.v, I couldn't get behind him subjugating communities and ruling with fear. I get he believed it was the ideal way to make it, but in the end it led to his downfall. Luckily he was spared and got a chance to work toward becoming better. But still, a villain p.o.v as a series could be interesting. And yes Steven on the apology. I've liked the idea of Negan apologizing for it, and I've never heard anyone talk about it. His actions are showing he's not the same anymore, but have we heard him say he regretted the things he's done to these people. no. Do we still need that after all this time, or is it too late?
WOOOOW. Speechless. Sat in awe for last 20mins since credits rolled. So many tears I couldn’t read captions. I need to gather thoughts before I chime in. 😭🥲😟❤️⚾️
What a fantastic finale. The best TWD episode since "The Calm Before". Congratulations show runners, I never thought that I could feel any empathy for Negan but DAMN! I was wrong! If any character on this show deserved an extensive origin story it was definately Negan. Fans of this show are certainly entitled to see the many layers of this sadistic onion be revealed in such an artful & clever manner. Again, great episode, absolutely loved it & I can't wait to see how everything wraps up in the upcoming final season.
This episode was INCREDIBLE. Definitely one of The Walking Dead’s best. And it genuinely makes you realize someone COULD be as awful as Negan, and yet change his ways as he has (or appears to have.) Something before this episode that was always still a bit of a stretch. But no longer. It makes me want to go back and rewatch that episode where he suddenly breaks down crying in his prison cell. JDM’s performance was SO good there, and surprising, and now it would carry even more weight. Great episode, great reaction 🙂
Best episode ever! Loved it! And I'm so glad that Hilary was playing Lucille. I'm not sure that the emotional trauma he experienced even remotely justified his later behavior but we'd really need to see more experiences to really see how he became the dark Negan. I really loved how one flash of the eye had almost more context in it than the whole episode. Brilliant!
There are those people that can’t forgive and those that can. Those who can’t live with that pain and suffering and anger. I think that also explains why some people now like Negan and others still hate him.
I love how with the biker gang they added the 1% patch in there for which biker gangs usually have on their vests so fricken cool from a police cadets point of view to see
I really hate how TWD made it like Maggie is in the wrong for not being able to forgive Negan. Imagine your husband’s killer smiling at you... but good episode tho!
Nobody is saying she's in the wrong, but things are different now. The whole 'Negan killed Glenn' thing is tired. She had her chance to kill him and I even sided with her being mad at Rick for taking it away from her, but she didn't and now too much time has passed. Negan has now earned his spot in Alexandria, which would not even BE THERE without him. Alpha would have killed everyone before Maggie had even gotten there had Negan not gotten close and intercepted. So now Maggie can either 1. Finish what she started or 2. Stfu and get over it. REMEMBER: Glenn was killed because of 1. Daryl and 2. Really bad decisions. They were all complicit and drew first blood with Negan first. Just saying.
@@cfinley81 nobody? All I see is people saying “get over it”. As a tv show, i get how viewers are tired of Maggie being mad and all but I mean look at the ending, it looks like she’s the bad guy when she just can’t forgive something he’s done that traumatized her. Neagn did became a better man and I like him for that but I just don’t like how Maggie can’t forgive Negan is giving Maggie and also the actress, a lot of hate. And I think he would’ve eventually attacked Rick’s people too. The saviours were so close to the Alexandrea when Carol left. And Negan killed a lot of people in a brutal way possible so that he didn’t have to work to survive so it make sense they attacked them first to keep their community safe from them.
Tbh, Negan has been in Alexandria longer than Maggie. They have made her character so unlikable. I would love her to get Sherrys comic death, because i feel like she will die in season 11.
@@cfinley81 you do realize that she didn’t kill him because the point was letting him live and suffer and sit in that cell for the rest of his life as punishment. She made peace with that, not with him living his life free and happy, enjoying things that Glenn will never get to have. There is never going to be anything that will make her get over it, she’s the one who still has to bear the pain every single day, that trauma is not over and it’ll never be over. Glenn was killed because of Negan. It’s as simple as that. Stop blaming Daryl or anything else. Negan started things, Negan is the one who swung the bat. You don’t blame the hostages for the actions of hostage takers. You don’t blame the victims.
I’ve been so excited to see you guys react to this! I, currently rewatching the series with my mom, for her first time. We just got to S3E2. She heard me crying to Here’s Negan and kept asking questions lol. Ohhhh she’ll know Negan soon enough! And all the emotional turmoil that man brings lol.
Negan is one of those characters that lived too long for his own good. It was fate that he would become “Good” like anyone...If you lock a man like negan up for years by himself, his nature will change because that’s what happens to people, People change in dramatic circumstances. What Negan did is wrong, we can still hate him he will spend the rest of his life correcting wrongs but the one thing we can accept is the fact he’s changed, Not even an apology just he’s changed.
@@mp6640 Idk it’s pretty clear he’s changed, if you ever see a scene in a film or a tv show where a character like negan is speaking with himself alone you know it’s genuine. This man has changed, Period.
Maybe they can meet in the middle because lowkey all things considered Maggie and gang weren’t “good people” especially in Negans eyes all he saw were people that killed his people in their sleep. So Negan doesn’t need to apologize 🤷🏾♂️ and frankly she doesn’t truly deserve one.
TBH, Negan just came to the realization he doesn't fit with this group, it was time to stop trying, it was basically an insult to who he became and what he went thru that made him. Sometimes when someone wants retribution, you CANNOT share space with them, you have to go your separate ways and wait for the day. It is what it is. Like crossing John Wick and know he is coming and do your best to defend yourself.
negan and ricks origin stories are very very much alike, tho rick went down a road of 'protecting' no matter what and negan went down a road of 'avenging' no matter what
Gabe and Aaron episode is easily the closest to this episode and man I could make a case for why it might have been better. But ultimately, you're right... This one was so damn good. However, I still can argue that no I wouldn't cheer for him if the show started from him. I would after this episode had it been the first. But then he started controlling people, killing people to make others do things.. no. Sorry. Not the same as Rick.
Tbh now that I’ve seen Negans backstory I think that Rick and negan are kinda balanced out between being good and bad. Both can go absolutely apeshit and go on a rampage, but both can also be peaceful and fair.
This might be an unpopular opinion but while what Negan did was brutal, it was totally unavoidable. Rick pushed to attack the outpost . Not only that but they were asleep. Roughly 40 people killed w no provocation. Then he sends others for retaliation so in total maybe 50 or 60 people were killed. Negan was proving a point. You cannot do crap like that and get away w it. Abraham dying is on Rick’s hands and Glenn dying is on Daryl’s hands. Though it was near shot for shot identical in the comic so that was well done. I kinda laughed when I saw the eye…. I.. they could have left that out or used shadowing lol. But in that situation let’s remember. Completely unavoidable. And Negan is anti hurting kids or rape. Suppose I see the twd world in shades of gray because Rick has done plenty in which he should be ashamed but is seen as the hero…just really prefer that there are no hero’s. There are those who protect and do the right thing and those who don’t. Sorry if that was long lol
@@marina9583 lol oh, I really like them, too bad her character died. I have a weird feeling the writers are gonna give us a twist at the end of next season where Negen and Maggie have a romance together lol
Sick guitar riffs in the background Valak: "Why do i here boss music?!" Negan walks through the door. lol Best episode of the filler so far, everything was excellent, the real chemistry between Jeff and his wife, Negan's awesome speech to Valak, this was the episode we all havebeen waiting for, Negan is crazy for going back.
No Negan was bad to start with. He and the saviors took half of what everyone had, beat and intimidated people, killed people if they did not meet his demands! He took other men’s wives kept food from people and took irons to peoples faces. Rick never did any of that crap. Maggie just needs to kill him and move on!
WOW what an episode!! Thank you so much for being there you two rock!!! You are the only people I watch TV with no joke your like friends i dont have..
I hope they don’t let Maggie “accept” Negan near the end. I think if they do take the route of her just letting it all go.. it should happen early on. I’m always team MAGGIE, but I really do like NEGAN. He’s such a fun person to watch.
Ether Negan can live the rest of his life trying to make up for what he did or he can be killed and be with his wife and that shows how Negan is truly at peace now and he just smiles now
Nikki, you are 100% correct; this was without a doubt the best episode of this season!! I never thought that I would feel sorry for Negan or that anything that happened to him in his past would make me get tears in my eyes, but this episode sure as hell did!! Also, to see, even a little bit, characters at the very start of the zombie apocalypse and then seeing things go to hell in a handbasket!! And Lucille was so brave,, tying herself to the bed and killing herself. Oh, and the note she left for him. This episode was really great, even though Negan was doing the Humpty-Hump with Lucille's best friend, he completely did an 180 degree turn when he found out that Lucille had cancer and became the most devoted, kind and caring husband he could be!! And I'm glad that he killed those bikers; they deserved it!! So now Negan and the Saviors make a lot more sense, although Negan really turned to the dark side pretty fast, faster than I thought he would!!
I have been waiting for you guys to react to this, easily the best episode of these extra eps and just an amazing ep in general. The acting was amazing and the ending I feel like Negans just made peace and is happy with whatever happens. Hyped for the final season
I think Negan is at peace with himself. That chapter is finished. I took that look at Maggie to be one of "I'm over it. Not on me if you're not." Frankly, at this point I'd rather have Negan than Maggie.
Such a good episode this. it definitely humanises negan in a way we havnt seen before. I literally watched the pool table episode yesterday where he meets Judith for the first time and as nikki said he loves the kids it makes sense him being a teacher and all I wonder if Judith remembered that first meeting and that's why they have a bond. That smile at the end is I'm here to stay do whatever you want Maggie I'm going nowhere if you don't like it no something about it or leave AGAIN that's way I see it anyway
I enjoyed this episode. Proves there is redemption for people. If Maggie knew what he did to save her friends she might be able to forgive. Not forget but forgive. Especially since this is a whole new world they’re learning to cope in
Exactly, maybe not host “kiddo sleepovers at Uncle Negan’s” with Herschel joining Judith, RJ and the rest...but something closer to the ending of Godzilla vs Kong 🤣
I don’t think Maggie will ever forgive. I think the best anyone should hope for is that they just stay their separate ways and find a compromise to live in the same community. Just because Negan saved her friends doesn’t change what happened with Glenn and the hurt it still causes her and Hershel. So I don’t think Maggie should ever forgive. But it doesn’t mean they can’t find a compromise.
Totally digging this series so far, love you guys! A quick question...would you ever consider watching the show John Adams. It's kind of a Chernobyl kind of deal (succinct, but fruitful), has stellar acting, storytelling, and range of emotions. Produced by Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg. It's an incredibly historically accurate show and is captivating every step of the way.
seriously I love season 10, but compare to all the episodes in 10, I have to say this episode is the best of them all! Negan's backstory was brilliantly told! Also Negan's smile at the end made me a bit nervous. I think Negan's is one of the best characters in twd, other than rick, daryl, glenn and Carl when it comes to the men. Great reaction! I also love how they got Jeffery Dean Morgan's real wife playing Lucille, I thought it was amazing and it made Negan's story even more emotional.
The thing I find so interesting about Negan and everyone’s hate for him, is that Rick was very close to becoming the same way as Negan. Even Morgan did for a bit. The only difference is Rick had people to keep him from being too far gone like Negan.
We literally just witnessed the death of one negan and the birth of another....just happens to be the bad one so many people knew.....this episode made me cry up until the very end then I got mad at him..lol.....as far as he is about not hurting a child.....having Glenn’s son in his face all the time is proof he did hurt ONE CHILD.....he has to live with that
What proof do we have that he “became the bad one!?” 🤔 He burned the bat and renounced the person he was by declaring his love and saying goodbye to his wife, so I see it as the best from both versions merged together and he is confident in concocting a plan to win over Maggie once and for all...we shall see
@@collegebro85 you misunderstood what I meant and I probably should have worded it differently the death of the Negan that was with his wife the birth of the Negan that killed Glenn that is what happened in that episode as far as when he was thinking about his past as of present he has made strides to help and to try and redeem himself he may have redeemed himself but nobody is going to forget what he did in the end so I don't know it'll go either way but what I've basically meant was Negan was one person with his wife and when she died and he killed those men he became the Negan that we all knew existed from season 7 that was the birth of the Negan who became the leader of the saviors the death of the one before him who he was when he was with his wife so in one night that Negan died and he became another
2 things I noticed from this episode were he learned how to become the Negan we first met through tiny tidbits, from how to interrogate others due to his treatment by the bikers and taking others’ supplies without giving something upfront due to the traveling doctors hospitality...and his dinner conversation with his wife could VERY MUCH foreshadow exactly what he could tell Maggie about how much he has hurt her and how it still pains him. Oh, and when he says “I can do whatever I want without remorse now,” yet now he has seen his actions have cost a wife and child their loving husband (very much who he was too) and incidentally cost Carl his life too...kinda ironic 🤷🏼♂️
Fun fact: the actress playing Negan’s wife is Jeffery Dean Morgan’s real life wife, Hilarie Burton-Morgan.
just the fact that she’s so close with the entire cast as well makes it even better! she’s an icon in the tv world for one tree hill...
She played Peyton in One Tree Hill
Oh wow, I didn't know that....that's awesome!
And it was Jensen Ackles who introduced them because *his wife, Danneel, was on One Tree Hill with Hilarie.
Having an actress wife in a pandemic certainly is a plus.
That smile Negan gave Maggie was more about Negan being at peace with himself. He finally let go of Lucille, his evil alter ego, his shame, forgave himself and is ready to face his new life or death whichever it may be. At least that's how I took it.
agreed
I think Negan will give his life in season 11 for his final redemption.
I have a feeling he will meet Rick fate in the comics.
@@Velshin1986 That would be epic. And if Hershel does it?
@@FEARNoMore no Hershel is far too young. And even if he finds out Negan killed his dad, he wouldn't want revenge or anything because he never met Glenn
I can't believe the walking dead made me cry over a bat being broken and burned
Especially for a man who was the show’s biggest villain for 2 seasons. It’s crazy how TWD has gotten us to love Negan after all he’s done. He’s been my favorite character ever since S8 and never fails to disappoint
@@MistaUnicorn Most well developed character I've ever seen... bearing in mind I don't watch any tv shows apart from this and impractical jokers! They both caught my eye and reeled me in so damn much.
@@MistaUnicorn same here. Favourite character since season 8. Actually no ... since he came into it, he’s been one of my favourites.
@@Emily_Grace_Barnes I've loved Negan since his introduction but I don't think I really considered him my FAVORITE until Season 8, and especially Season 9.
@Zokersghost same here. Negan is the only reason I watch it now
Negan at the end was like “bullshit, I earned my keep, I’m staying”
I read that in Negans voice lol
Fact
According to JDM, the smile wasn't in the script and he improvised it, and the producers liked it so they kept it in
Not really. they're going along with the comic story. negan actually wants Maggie to kill him because he feels he deserves it. that's why he goes back to end it.
@@DCFCfanatic They've already done that though in season 9
I also just read that the team negan coached was called the saviours. You can see a hat in their room with saviour athletics on it
Oh that’s interesting
Negan at the end was like "hell naw i pay my taxes too"
Negan never got the chance to say goodbye to lucille so by talking to the bat in a way he got the chance to say goodbye
Felt like closure for sure
Jess!
Morgan said "all I see is red" when telling Rick what happened to Duane in "Clear." Nice call back.
I'm thinking it's a little tease that Duane may be alive. So when Morgan said "all I see is red", we all assumed he meant all the blood. But now it could've meant he was just angry🤷♀️
@@lewis0705 I definitely do not think that was a tease to Duane being alive. lol. “see red” is a popular saying to someone being absolutely furious. Morgan was angry with what happened to Duane, hence what he said to Rick. :3
‘Seeing red’ is a common phrase
@@lewis0705 100% not a tease that Duane is alive. That's so farfetched that I'm honestly shocked that the idea even occurred.
It’s not a callback. It’s an extremely common saying...
best ep of the season, Negan is amazing, best character by far 🔥
I like Rick much better, but Negan is my #2.
Possibly the best character in tv ever
I agree 100% my favorite used to be Rick but Negans got alot more character and personality. I love that they made a guy I hated into my favorite character. Thats good writing!
One of the best episodes ever
totally. he's so complex, charismatic, and just soo interesting and badass. what a character.
He is such a great actor. I say this may be the best twd episode ever.
He is awesome
Little bit of trivia - the name on Negan and Lucille's letterbox was "Smith" which means his full name is Negan Smith 😂
No its not stop making stuff up
@@michaelaction7031 Dude you can literally see it on the letterbox...and on one of his trophies...it's referencing a joke Robert Kirkman made where fans kept asking what Negan's last name was so he just said it was Smith as a joke but the show put it in
@@michaelaction7031 There's even an article online about it, so I'm not making anything up
I thought I saw that last night when I watched! Thank you for backing up my suspicion!! :D :D
@@lhuntley4577 Apparently on Talking Dead when they did the In Memoriam section they listed Lucille's name as Lucille Smith so it seems official
I just can't get over the fact that his first name is NEGAN and he has such a vanilla last name 😂 Side note, who the hell looks at a baby and says "yeah, he looks like a Negan to me"
ONE OF THE BEST EPISODES EVER 🙌🏻
Agreed
Yeah & yet the episode before it was the worst & never should have been put into production
What a phenomenal episode! It's so great to get a reminder of why I love this show so much and how good it can be. The final season premiers August 22nd and I'm so excited!!
Same here!
After last week, this was definitely that much better, but then again just about every season finale has been the best compared to a lackluster 7th and 15th episode...except for season 9...definitely should have had the pike scene in the finale!
@。 nope, newest trailer puts it a month later
Jeffrey Dean Morgan said two takes were taken, one with him smiling (which he added, it wasn’t scripted) and one without. The director chose the smiling one for a reason. That’s the classic Negan smirk. He’s got his mojo back.
That smirk that he did, made me so happy because ye it’s his mojo, it’s him getting it back and telling himself “I’m not scared of Maggie” I guess
@@Emily_Grace_Barnes more like he's made peace with his fate
This episode was a mix of emotions. We miss that in TWD. I loved!
This was probably one of my favourite walking dead episodes ever. I shed tears. It was incredible. They did Negan and Lucille justice. Amazing. And Happy Easter guys! Hope the bunny was good to your gorgeous ladies!
I always watch your WD reactions and enjoy them so much, and i never comment.. so I just wanted to tell you that! keep going!
Appreciate it!!
Agreed...I've been working my way through TWD since Christmas and couldn't wait to catch up to the reaction seasons 🙂
I was expecting something a little bit closer to the "Here's Negan" comic, but this was surprisingly good nonetheless. They could easily make another full episode focused on Negan's rise to power in the Saviors. They could bring back many of the old characters (Dwight, Simon, Sherry, etc.). Fingers crossed.
I'm hoping they do that with his spin off
🤦🏼♂️ for the last time, the comic and the show are entirely separate at this point. Yes, there will be some similarities, but a shot-for-shot remake would not only be a bore to watch knowing what is about to happen next but also would have made this show VERY unlikely to have lasted more than 3-4 seasons...
@@collegebro85 I never said I expected a shot for shot remake, nor would I want one. "A little bit closer to" is not the same as "exactly identical to". I'm not even complaining anyway, because I really liked this episode. All I'm saying is that there was not as much focus on the Saviors as I thought there would be, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The way they did this episode provides more depth to Negan and Lucille's relationship and still leaves room for more backstory down the line.
@@mrj4082 that’d be better than the Carol Daryl show
For me.... Laura giving Neegan "Lucille" was a HUGE moment!!!! And to learn they met that far back was cool. I wonder what ever happened to her dad?
they need to do a negan spin-off
@@thegamingcook785 when
@@thegamingcook785 I think he was taking about a sorta negan prequel. Like him building up the saviors.
@hahacrackhead4100 yeah i wish they'd make a negan mini series that takes place right after he killed the biker dude and ends with him hearing about Rick's group
CONGRATS ON 160k!!! 🥳🙌🏼💗👏🏼
Thank you Michele!!
@@NikkiStevenReact 🤗🤗🤗
If you remember Negan burned the face of one of his "wives" ex boyfriends because they went around behind his back and he said he doesn't tolerate cheating. And you find out, he had cheated on his wife while she was being diagnosed with cancer. Kinda put that in perspective with him after that I guess. Also, I love how Negan comes back and asks Carol for help moving back in and she's just like 'Kay'. like she knew he was going to do that.
There's also a kind of poetic symmetry in the way they depict Negan's experience, especially in this episode. His whole inner being has really been about the memory of his wife. The close of his life with his wife is in her cremation on the bed, and for me, burning the bat in the fireplace (a kind of cremation) might be his way of finally moving into present day without her.
I couldn't remember Laura's name. When I saw her, I screamed "Bar code!!!"
Hair cut
the hot savior
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lmfao sameeeee
I'm not gonna lie, I just knew Steven was gonna relate to what Negan said: "How I got so lucky that you have stuck with me". I called it, and you guys are awesome.
Rick told Michonne that he was lucky to have her.
By far, one of the best episodes of all time in TWD!
@@kdizzle901 ok those episodes were awesome yes
Best Negan episode still to date is the season 7 premiere, but this is definitely right next to it!!
It was a great one. Just feels like setup for more Negan greatness
Fact when Negan says I see all red that’s what Morgan said in the episode clear when Rick and Carl went to Morgan in season 3
The last time we heard “You Are My Sunshine,” was when Negan forced Carl to sing. 😢
I think the smile at the end was just for himself - not to antagonize Maggie. He’s clearly letting go of the past by burning the bat.
Negan has no more fu*ks to give.
Fun Fact: Both 'Negan' and his Actual Wife 'Lucille' have acted in Greys Anatomy. 😉
I know Jeffrey was Denny, but when did she guest star in the show?
Interesting Fact but It wasn't fun like you promised...I'm taking you to court for false advertisment
@@jonathanparker6209 I believe she played a doctor in a few episodes, Arizona had an affair(or one night stand maybe) with her.
@@michaelaction7031 dumb
Other fun fact Lucille is Jeffrey Dean Morgan real woman
Meaning of the smile at the end I think, it's a challenge to Maggie. He is not running anywhere, if she want it come get it. He is not afraid anymore, made peace with his past and ready to die now.
Did you catch the school's team name? It was the Saviors!
the last scene with Negan and Maggie staring at each other seems like its about to be a Mortal Kombat fight scene lol with music and all
Anyone notice that the song Hershel was singing to Maggie was the same song Carl sang to Negan back in season 7? Cool callback.
Yeah this backstory was great but I just wished they added how he started his group the saviors & how he recruited all those thousands of people that worked for him doing what he said & etc
I'm so curious about how he met Simon. If I remember correctly, He mentioned with Simon that Simon helped him take the Sanctuary or something like that.
Not if it's a replay of season 7 or 8 tho. Can't go through that slog again. Only if Gimple has nothing to do with it.
@@FEARNoMore I bet you still bitch about the last season of GoT too lol.
Right? Like I almost wish they would make it an entire series from his perspective.
@@kathleenclark815 No Gimple/Savior fangirl. But only if they decided to do a prequel of that GOT season with the same writers or showrunner. lol Why go through that Frankenstein, shit show again? Don't need another Gimple esc, self indulgent snail paced season either. Exhibit A, Gimple's TWD World Beyond...I rest my case.
Great episode!!! Also, loved that they brought back Laura for it.
Minus the 16 year old we heard the saviors killed via baseball bat right before they sent the message to hilltop by trying stab Gregory. (When we first learned of the saviors). This is something too many forget about.
There is also the the saviors that Daryl, Abraham and Sasha met on the road and Daryl's experience with them while with Dwight, Sherry and Sherry's sister. Rick's people had a lot of warning that Negan's people were going to be a problem that needed to be dealt with.
@@burrichgrrl57 yep. Tired of hearing about the outpost to justify Negan's response. They didn't just go kill a random group they had no knowledge of.
The song that Herschel and Maggie were singing was the same song that Carl was force to sing to Negan, it’s like negans life flashing before his eyes or his haunting pass that he put on the survivors has circled back to him and making him think on where he is in the world or where his place is in the community
Oh Negan and Lucille 😥 Good episode!
Best episode of all the extras
Str8 🔥,bye Felicia 😂😂😂
@@fredflintstone522 😅
We all seem to forget that Rick, Glenn, Daryl etc killed Negans people first. Maggie didn't have a problem with that.
Negans people would've killed daryl, abraham and Sasha on the road first if Daryl didn't shoot them with a rpg
@@pitnf8036 but Negan didn’t know that all he knew was that these people killed his men and took out an outpost he kinda had to retaliate in some way and from an objective standpoint 2 lives for the lives of upwards of 20/30 people is pretty fair .
The only reason it’s such a bad moment is because we’ve been watching Glenn and Abraham for a while now and ave come to like and relate to them but if you strip that away it’s just two guys which once again is pretty fair for payback for the killing of upwards of 30 people .
That smile Negan gave to Maggie is almost like he wants her to kill him.
Or more like let’s see if ppl take my side over yours because remember he did save them and got rid of alpha and helped Daryl kill beta so basically he earned his dues
That was my take on it.
Nah he wants her to try. It won't go in her favor.
@@bigdirewolf7642 lmao your understanding of people is like something from kindergarten
I love that he had the balls to walk back into Alexandria...Screw Maggie.
I've been warming up to Negan, especially with his relationship with Judith. But I absolutely fell in love with him when he was singing "You are so Beautiful" to Lucille. 💔
Lucille being bald from the chemo is why Negan was attracted to Alpha. Alpha reminded him of Lucille.
I don't think he was actually attracted to her physically.
I was like, "so that's why he did alpha" lmao
Thats wrong
@@IgiveSolutions No its Right
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I read it as the “here’s johnnyyy” 😂
You’re supposed to.
My wife loves y'all so much!!...thank you for always keeping her spirits up.
Been waiting for your guys reaction to this one!
Nikki’s reactions are everything 😂
She thinks it cute that Negan says “I loved the shit out of you” but immediately turns to Steve and says “don’t ever say that to me” is the most Nikki thing ever
Notice when Negans giving the speech at the end they made the lighting behind him look like it did in the clearing when he killed Glenn and Abe
i think they also made his hood on his hoodie look like his scarf that he wore at the line up
So the original line was " I was saving that bullet. " she was planning it & she died as soon as he left, same clothes...but they changed the line cause it was a giveaway. Negan's last name is Smith!!!!!
they need a mini series called "Negan" showing him go from that bar with the blond chick until that first episode of season 7
Negan is literally one of the only reasons I still watch this show. I would love if they just gave him his own series. Sure he's not perfect and has made some mistakes. Killing Glenn and Abraham made me mad at the time and it sucks that they are dead but Neegan only killed 2 of theirs versus the dozens Rick and them killed so that makes him way less evil than the Governor even, although he is certainly more intimidating than him. Like it or not the guy gets what he wants. Im afraid now that they gave him a back story they will kill him off soon in typical TWD fashion. Oof. This is getting good! Excited for season 11!
Exactly! Glenn died because of Daryl's rashness and stupidity and because of an extremely poorly thought out decision to kill Negan and his people. They didn't even know what he looked like. It was all so dumb and look what happened.
LOVED THIS EPISODE!!! This was very far from the comic version of this but I knew that was gonna be the case...Hilarie was the best one to play Lucille without a doubt. PRAYING we see the formation of the saviors in a mini-series someday
It was great!!
I loved how negan was playing gears of war. A man of culture.
WHAT . AN . EPISODE . That's the TWD we love!!
This episode, out of the 6, really packed a punch. I swear TWD promoted this more than all the other episodes. What I really enjoyed was watching the version of Negan before he lost Lucille. A man who was, for the most part, pretty intact with his humanity. The episode didn't go beyond that, but clearly he believed shutting his emotions away was the only way he was going to make it. A series following more with Negan's past would be pretty refreshing since he's not like the other characters who for the most part try and hold onto their humanity as they fight and survive. Still, if this fully followed from his p.o.v, I couldn't get behind him subjugating communities and ruling with fear. I get he believed it was the ideal way to make it, but in the end it led to his downfall. Luckily he was spared and got a chance to work toward becoming better. But still, a villain p.o.v as a series could be interesting.
And yes Steven on the apology. I've liked the idea of Negan apologizing for it, and I've never heard anyone talk about it. His actions are showing he's not the same anymore, but have we heard him say he regretted the things he's done to these people. no. Do we still need that after all this time, or is it too late?
This might be my favorite episode of all
Villains aren’t always bad to the core, they’re just broken
Perfectly put
Hurt people,hurt people.
WOOOOW. Speechless. Sat in awe for last 20mins since credits rolled. So many tears I couldn’t read captions. I need to gather thoughts before I chime in. 😭🥲😟❤️⚾️
This was my favourite episode of season 10 in general I’m a massive Negan fan and I believe he’s earned his redemption for Ricks Group.
It was so good to see Michonne and Rick in this episode, even if they were just flashbacks
What a fantastic finale. The best TWD episode since "The Calm Before". Congratulations show runners, I never thought that I could feel any empathy for Negan but DAMN! I was wrong! If any character on this show deserved an extensive origin story it was definately Negan. Fans of this show are certainly entitled to see the many layers of this sadistic onion be revealed in such an artful & clever manner. Again, great episode, absolutely loved it & I can't wait to see how everything wraps up in the upcoming final season.
It was directed by the same person ironically hehe
This episode was INCREDIBLE. Definitely one of The Walking Dead’s best. And it genuinely makes you realize someone COULD be as awful as Negan, and yet change his ways as he has (or appears to have.) Something before this episode that was always still a bit of a stretch. But no longer. It makes me want to go back and rewatch that episode where he suddenly breaks down crying in his prison cell. JDM’s performance was SO good there, and surprising, and now it would carry even more weight. Great episode, great reaction 🙂
Best episode ever! Loved it! And I'm so glad that Hilary was playing Lucille. I'm not sure that the emotional trauma he experienced even remotely justified his later behavior but we'd really need to see more experiences to really see how he became the dark Negan. I really loved how one flash of the eye had almost more context in it than the whole episode. Brilliant!
There are those people that can’t forgive and those that can. Those who can’t live with that pain and suffering and anger. I think that also explains why some people now like Negan and others still hate him.
I love how with the biker gang they added the 1% patch in there for which biker gangs usually have on their vests so fricken cool from a police cadets point of view to see
I really hate how TWD made it like Maggie is in the wrong for not being able to forgive Negan. Imagine your husband’s killer smiling at you... but good episode tho!
With you on that.
Nobody is saying she's in the wrong, but things are different now. The whole 'Negan killed Glenn' thing is tired. She had her chance to kill him and I even sided with her being mad at Rick for taking it away from her, but she didn't and now too much time has passed. Negan has now earned his spot in Alexandria, which would not even BE THERE without him. Alpha would have killed everyone before Maggie had even gotten there had Negan not gotten close and intercepted. So now Maggie can either 1. Finish what she started or 2. Stfu and get over it. REMEMBER: Glenn was killed because of 1. Daryl and 2. Really bad decisions. They were all complicit and drew first blood with Negan first. Just saying.
@@cfinley81 nobody? All I see is people saying “get over it”. As a tv show, i get how viewers are tired of Maggie being mad and all but I mean look at the ending, it looks like she’s the bad guy when she just can’t forgive something he’s done that traumatized her. Neagn did became a better man and I like him for that but I just don’t like how Maggie can’t forgive Negan is giving Maggie and also the actress, a lot of hate. And I think he would’ve eventually attacked Rick’s people too. The saviours were so close to the Alexandrea when Carol left. And Negan killed a lot of people in a brutal way possible so that he didn’t have to work to survive so it make sense they attacked them first to keep their community safe from them.
Tbh, Negan has been in Alexandria longer than Maggie. They have made her character so unlikable. I would love her to get Sherrys comic death, because i feel like she will die in season 11.
@@cfinley81 you do realize that she didn’t kill him because the point was letting him live and suffer and sit in that cell for the rest of his life as punishment. She made peace with that, not with him living his life free and happy, enjoying things that Glenn will never get to have. There is never going to be anything that will make her get over it, she’s the one who still has to bear the pain every single day, that trauma is not over and it’ll never be over.
Glenn was killed because of Negan. It’s as simple as that. Stop blaming Daryl or anything else. Negan started things, Negan is the one who swung the bat. You don’t blame the hostages for the actions of hostage takers. You don’t blame the victims.
I’ve been so excited to see you guys react to this! I, currently rewatching the series with my mom, for her first time. We just got to S3E2. She heard me crying to Here’s Negan and kept asking questions lol. Ohhhh she’ll know Negan soon enough! And all the emotional turmoil that man brings lol.
Negan is one of those characters that lived too long for his own good. It was fate that he would become “Good” like anyone...If you lock a man like negan up for years by himself, his nature will change because that’s what happens to people, People change in dramatic circumstances. What Negan did is wrong, we can still hate him he will spend the rest of his life correcting wrongs but the one thing we can accept is the fact he’s changed, Not even an apology just he’s changed.
But that’s the problem most people look at him as the person who hasn’t change like some people say people don’t change.
@@mp6640 Idk it’s pretty clear he’s changed, if you ever see a scene in a film or a tv show where a character like negan is speaking with himself alone you know it’s genuine. This man has changed, Period.
Anyone else thought that Negan and Lucille's favourite song was gonna be Easy Street XD
Maybe they can meet in the middle because lowkey all things considered Maggie and gang weren’t “good people” especially in Negans eyes all he saw were people that killed his people in their sleep. So Negan doesn’t need to apologize 🤷🏾♂️ and frankly she doesn’t truly deserve one.
Love that Vipers Sopranos reference
TBH, Negan just came to the realization he doesn't fit with this group, it was time to stop trying, it was basically an insult to who he became and what he went thru that made him. Sometimes when someone wants retribution, you CANNOT share space with them, you have to go your separate ways and wait for the day. It is what it is. Like crossing John Wick and know he is coming and do your best to defend yourself.
I dont know what to think but didnt think that
negan and ricks origin stories are very very much alike, tho rick went down a road of 'protecting' no matter what and negan went down a road of 'avenging' no matter what
Rick went psycho when Lori died. What kept him from going to the dark side forever was his group. Negan didn’t have that
Gabe and Aaron episode is easily the closest to this episode and man I could make a case for why it might have been better. But ultimately, you're right... This one was so damn good. However, I still can argue that no I wouldn't cheer for him if the show started from him. I would after this episode had it been the first. But then he started controlling people, killing people to make others do things.. no. Sorry. Not the same as Rick.
Tbh now that I’ve seen Negans backstory I think that Rick and negan are kinda balanced out between being good and bad. Both can go absolutely apeshit and go on a rampage, but both can also be peaceful and fair.
This might be an unpopular opinion but while what Negan did was brutal, it was totally unavoidable. Rick pushed to attack the outpost . Not only that but they were asleep. Roughly 40 people killed w no provocation. Then he sends others for retaliation so in total maybe 50 or 60 people were killed. Negan was proving a point. You cannot do crap like that and get away w it. Abraham dying is on Rick’s hands and Glenn dying is on Daryl’s hands. Though it was near shot for shot identical in the comic so that was well done. I kinda laughed when I saw the eye…. I.. they could have left that out or used shadowing lol. But in that situation let’s remember. Completely unavoidable. And Negan is anti hurting kids or rape. Suppose I see the twd world in shades of gray because Rick has done plenty in which he should be ashamed but is seen as the hero…just really prefer that there are no hero’s. There are those who protect and do the right thing and those who don’t. Sorry if that was long lol
I thought we had that “goodbye video” with Laura actress and then she’s back here! It feels kinda wonderful they brought her back :)
I think I cried for the entire episode! They are so cute
lol she's his real life wife as well
@@marcosmos7478 that's why I said it😅
@@marina9583 lol oh, I really like them, too bad her character died. I have a weird feeling the writers are gonna give us a twist at the end of next season where Negen and Maggie have a romance together lol
@@marcosmos7478 I love not!! That would be weird! If they try a weird couple it's gonna be Carol and Negan but doubt it
@@marina9583 yeah I was thinking Carol and Negan, but Maggie and Negan is the ultimate twist lol.. who knows what's in store for us I can't wait
Sick guitar riffs in the background
Valak: "Why do i here boss music?!"
Negan walks through the door. lol
Best episode of the filler so far, everything was excellent, the real chemistry between Jeff and his wife, Negan's awesome speech to Valak, this was the episode we all havebeen waiting for, Negan is crazy for going back.
This episode was amazing!
Just starting this reaction and I'm already prepared to cry like a little baby 😭
No Negan was bad to start with. He and the saviors took half of what everyone had, beat and intimidated people, killed people if they did not meet his demands! He took other men’s wives kept food from people and took irons to peoples faces. Rick never did any of that crap. Maggie just needs to kill him and move on!
WOW what an episode!! Thank you so much for being there you two rock!!! You are the only people I watch TV with no joke your like friends i dont have..
I hope they don’t let Maggie “accept” Negan near the end. I think if they do take the route of her just letting it all go.. it should happen early on.
I’m always team MAGGIE, but I really do like NEGAN.
He’s such a fun person to watch.
Ether Negan can live the rest of his life trying to make up for what he did or he can be killed and be with his wife and that shows how Negan is truly at peace now and he just smiles now
Nikki, you are 100% correct; this was without a doubt the best episode of this season!! I never thought that I would feel sorry for Negan or that anything that happened to him in his past would make me get tears in my eyes, but this episode sure as hell did!! Also, to see, even a little bit, characters at the very start of the zombie apocalypse and then seeing things go to hell in a handbasket!! And Lucille was so brave,, tying herself to the bed and killing herself. Oh, and the note she left for him. This episode was really great, even though Negan was doing the Humpty-Hump with Lucille's best friend, he completely did an 180 degree turn when he found out that Lucille had cancer and became the most devoted, kind and caring husband he could be!! And I'm glad that he killed those bikers; they deserved it!! So now Negan and the Saviors make a lot more sense, although Negan really turned to the dark side pretty fast, faster than I thought he would!!
I have been waiting for you guys to react to this, easily the best episode of these extra eps and just an amazing ep in general. The acting was amazing and the ending I feel like Negans just made peace and is happy with whatever happens. Hyped for the final season
I think Negan is at peace with himself. That chapter is finished. I took that look at Maggie to be one of "I'm over it. Not on me if you're not." Frankly, at this point I'd rather have Negan than Maggie.
Such a good episode this. it definitely humanises negan in a way we havnt seen before. I literally watched the pool table episode yesterday where he meets Judith for the first time and as nikki said he loves the kids it makes sense him being a teacher and all I wonder if Judith remembered that first meeting and that's why they have a bond. That smile at the end is I'm here to stay do whatever you want Maggie I'm going nowhere if you don't like it no something about it or leave AGAIN that's way I see it anyway
I enjoyed this episode. Proves there is redemption for people. If Maggie knew what he did to save her friends she might be able to forgive. Not forget but forgive. Especially since this is a whole new world they’re learning to cope in
Exactly, maybe not host “kiddo sleepovers at Uncle Negan’s” with Herschel joining Judith, RJ and the rest...but something closer to the ending of Godzilla vs Kong 🤣
I don’t think Maggie will ever forgive. I think the best anyone should hope for is that they just stay their separate ways and find a compromise to live in the same community. Just because Negan saved her friends doesn’t change what happened with Glenn and the hurt it still causes her and Hershel. So I don’t think Maggie should ever forgive. But it doesn’t mean they can’t find a compromise.
Negan's last scene was him saying he's becoming the Fonz
Totally digging this series so far, love you guys! A quick question...would you ever consider watching the show John Adams. It's kind of a Chernobyl kind of deal (succinct, but fruitful), has stellar acting, storytelling, and range of emotions. Produced by Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg. It's an incredibly historically accurate show and is captivating every step of the way.
seriously I love season 10, but compare to all the episodes in 10, I have to say this episode is the best of them all! Negan's backstory was brilliantly told! Also Negan's smile at the end made me a bit nervous. I think Negan's is one of the best characters in twd, other than rick, daryl, glenn and Carl when it comes to the men.
Great reaction! I also love how they got Jeffery Dean Morgan's real wife playing Lucille, I thought it was amazing and it made Negan's story even more emotional.
Prediction - Negan will risk his life saving Maggie's kid, so she will be forced to forgive him
Wow....never heard that theory...lol 🙄
@@kathleenclark815 well the show is pretty predictable
The thing I find so interesting about Negan and everyone’s hate for him, is that Rick was very close to becoming the same way as Negan.
Even Morgan did for a bit.
The only difference is Rick had people to keep him from being too far gone like Negan.
Best episode by far!!! :D
I loved that Negan wasn't a perfect husband, makes his guilt so much heavier after Lucille is gone.
Steven in his mind: I LOVE THE SHIT OUT OF YOU NIKKI ❤️😍😘❤️
This is one of the best episodes i have seen in a while. If not the whole series
We literally just witnessed the death of one negan and the birth of another....just happens to be the bad one so many people knew.....this episode made me cry up until the very end then I got mad at him..lol.....as far as he is about not hurting a child.....having Glenn’s son in his face all the time is proof he did hurt ONE CHILD.....he has to live with that
What proof do we have that he “became the bad one!?” 🤔
He burned the bat and renounced the person he was by declaring his love and saying goodbye to his wife, so I see it as the best from both versions merged together and he is confident in concocting a plan to win over Maggie once and for all...we shall see
@@collegebro85 you misunderstood what I meant and I probably should have worded it differently the death of the Negan that was with his wife the birth of the Negan that killed Glenn that is what happened in that episode as far as when he was thinking about his past as of present he has made strides to help and to try and redeem himself he may have redeemed himself but nobody is going to forget what he did in the end so I don't know it'll go either way but what I've basically meant was Negan was one person with his wife and when she died and he killed those men he became the Negan that we all knew existed from season 7 that was the birth of the Negan who became the leader of the saviors the death of the one before him who he was when he was with his wife so in one night that Negan died and he became another
2 things I noticed from this episode were he learned how to become the Negan we first met through tiny tidbits, from how to interrogate others due to his treatment by the bikers and taking others’ supplies without giving something upfront due to the traveling doctors hospitality...and his dinner conversation with his wife could VERY MUCH foreshadow exactly what he could tell Maggie about how much he has hurt her and how it still pains him.
Oh, and when he says “I can do whatever I want without remorse now,” yet now he has seen his actions have cost a wife and child their loving husband (very much who he was too) and incidentally cost Carl his life too...kinda ironic 🤷🏼♂️
No, Carl has costed his own life by being stupid that has nothing to do with negan at all.