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  • Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
  • The LoRa Meshtastic T-BEAM device are small battery powered devices that will mesh with other T-BEAM and send messages and other data from your phones, tablets and computers.
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  • @HamRadioCrashCourse
    @HamRadioCrashCourse  2 года назад +100

    RANGE Test is here!!! ruclips.net/video/OwTy_-Y-A5o/видео.html

    • @gotallmyvaccinesforallknow4949
      @gotallmyvaccinesforallknow4949 2 года назад +6

      This is what the millitary uses and proves satillites are really cell towers.

    • @alal792
      @alal792 2 года назад +4

      @@gotallmyvaccinesforallknow4949 millions of lies in the matrix...that's just one of em!

    • @christinajane7311
      @christinajane7311 2 года назад +1

      How do journalists request and interview?

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  2 года назад

      @@christinajane7311 just email me.

    • @marktemplin1159
      @marktemplin1159 2 года назад

      😂😂😂😂👍

  • @ChiEKKUsama
    @ChiEKKUsama 2 года назад +1759

    Can't wait to get my first message on this thing about my car's extended warranty.

    • @chrisyoung3082
      @chrisyoung3082 2 года назад +39

      You forgot about lowering your credit card interest rates .... lol 😃

    • @jackal6902
      @jackal6902 2 года назад +5

      Lol

    • @hardrock6r
      @hardrock6r 2 года назад +17

      the greatest comment ever

    • @robkoons2100
      @robkoons2100 2 года назад +16

      I have to admit this comment made me laugh because it is so damn true to life!

    • @MgtowRubicon
      @MgtowRubicon 2 года назад +4

      (How did they know?)

  • @FPVSlacker
    @FPVSlacker 2 года назад +737

    It should be used as such: Encourage as many people as possible to install in their attic for low cost. A small solar panel and lithium battery will allow the network to remain in place in power outages. Joining the mesh will allow access to the mesh. The mesh will carry encrypted data from users on the network. Encryption keys will be used like phone numbers. Individuals may communicate outside normal networks, with strong encryption preventing the ability of government snooping or censorship. Yes government tyrants, I'm talking about YOU.

    • @railgap
      @railgap 2 года назад +64

      anoher good idea which nobody will adopt because most humans are stupid.

    • @sammiller6631
      @sammiller6631 2 года назад +24

      @@railgap It's not a good idea. If one neighbor gets upset thinking your encrypted data is running their wifi, they'll take your "I'll do whatever I want on the airwaves" approach to jam your mesh with their own.

    • @mrt1957
      @mrt1957 2 года назад +32

      bossy guys like you are the goverment, yeah, I am talking about you. Usually the finger pointers are the worst type of goberment agents.

    • @jamesparker437
      @jamesparker437 2 года назад +17

      @@mrt1957 quintessential stupiditism much?

    • @mrt1957
      @mrt1957 2 года назад +22

      @@jamesparker437 You got me, I got my PhD in QS and have been itching to flex for years. Finally got my chance!

  • @austincarroll8294
    @austincarroll8294 2 года назад +10

    The things I'm learning on this channel are really exciting. I've never been a tech guy, but seeing what can be done with this stuff has changed what I do in my spare time. Thanks for all of these videos, and I look forward to watching more in the future. You now have a new supporter.

  • @krikka1
    @krikka1 2 года назад +26

    Great video Josh, let’s continue to experimenting on this powerful mix of LoRa and mesh networks! 👍 I’m waiting next videos 👏👏

  • @thewebmaster1
    @thewebmaster1 2 года назад +54

    Excellent tutorial and sharing of essential knowledge in the age of hyper-surveillance. Also good for the revival of interest in ham, cb, and other types of radio aficionado niches. If digital tech fails, analogue and radio will save us

  • @pablod6872
    @pablod6872 2 года назад +13

    As always, another good video from HRCC. Even if this isn't something that I would use, I appreciate learning about new radio tech.

  • @dancoyle6911
    @dancoyle6911 2 года назад +1

    I’ve been watching prepper/ham radio videos for a few months now and this is the most intriguing idea I’ve come across in them. Thank you for the information

  • @davidpritchett855
    @davidpritchett855 2 года назад +14

    This is pretty cool! I've been wanting to set up a basic mesh network for my property to monitor the charge of solar batteries that charge electric fences. There seems to be a lot of value to these kind of long range blue tooth systems.

  • @neiloler
    @neiloler 2 года назад +10

    Thanks for making this video, I’ve been looking into this, your perspective is a good data point. As you play around more, I’d love to learn along with you!

  • @Eyes0penNoFear
    @Eyes0penNoFear 2 года назад +13

    I've never heard of this before. It's definitely something I want to learn more about!

  • @superspeederbooster
    @superspeederbooster 2 года назад +92

    I wonder when all of the off grid people gonna unite and create a grid...

    • @thereisnosanctuary6184
      @thereisnosanctuary6184 2 года назад +5

      This.

    • @ertonyrn
      @ertonyrn 2 года назад +1

      already been done years ago with the gotennas. look it up

    • @digitaltrip420
      @digitaltrip420 2 года назад

      @@ertonyrn This the next version of that?

    • @hmax1591
      @hmax1591 2 года назад +1

      if off grid people create a grid, doesn't that defeats the term and purpose?

    • @hmax1591
      @hmax1591 2 года назад

      @@Aerial.Imaging ins't that the way everything in our civilization started? A few people make a tribe, join other tribes with like minded goals, and they in turn become towns and then cities and whole societies?

  • @rv6amark
    @rv6amark 2 года назад +12

    Interesting! Two years ago I didn't really understand Mesh Networks. Today, I have a couple of mesh networks in my home, and it appears I will be experimenting with this as well. Thank you for making this video.

  • @ahmedmanajid
    @ahmedmanajid 2 года назад +20

    I remember following a project that used the lora to setup repeaters like this in puerto rico? They launched them in floating rubber ducks.

    • @karinhart489
      @karinhart489 2 года назад +8

      Wasn’t that how pre-pandemic they permitted isolated villagers in PR post hurricane to text each other using the mesh network of baby ducks (strapped to road signs) that passed the text message on to parent ducks which pass txt onto the internet. That group won an innovation award🥇 & grant from IBM, who posted a video on award winners.

    • @karinhart489
      @karinhart489 2 года назад +1

      @@chrissewell1608, I would like to set something like that here for our cove area, and maybe beam the texts to the internet across the bay line of sight, but that is a bit out of my skill set, so I may start with a small neighborhood grid of those things Josh was showing & get help with the “mother duck” part later.

    • @ahmedmanajid
      @ahmedmanajid 2 года назад +1

      @@karinhart489 yes that was them! It got me started on my search that also led me to learning about AREDN a different project but similar goals.

    • @karinhart489
      @karinhart489 2 года назад

      @@ahmedmanajid, do you have it up & working?

  • @28TrucksTravel
    @28TrucksTravel 2 года назад +5

    Excellent content. I want to try this for our next overlanding event when we have a convoy and base camp!

  • @LoveWins
    @LoveWins 2 года назад +2

    I just might start buying these like a few each month and setup my own private network around my house. I love up on a mountain in the woods so this would be cool to setup in my area and allow some of my friends and neighbors to connect. This is a fun little hobby

  • @ricks4361
    @ricks4361 3 месяца назад

    Just getting into this comms stuff and hearing about this. Wow!! And even though this is an older video you do a Gr job as always presenting the info in such a way it’s ez for NOOBs to understand. Thanks again.

  • @Allofthemonkeys
    @Allofthemonkeys 2 года назад +6

    Nice to know, I was just thinking about getting my group of friends to set up a lora net

  • @s1krrpilot
    @s1krrpilot 2 года назад +20

    The great performance of LoRa in all these 3 features (good sensitivity, low path loss, good obstacle penetration) makes LoRa a disruptive technology enabling really long range links. This is specially important in urban scenarios, with very difficult transmission conditions. To sum up, LoRa can get long ranges in Smart Cities deployments, so it reduces dramatically the size of the backbone network (repeaters, gateways or concentrators).

  • @HamRadioDX
    @HamRadioDX 2 года назад +2

    Great video Josh, very interesting little units. 915 MHZ is a ISM band here to IIRC, might good to experiment with. Also your camera looks awesome, very crisp, nice work

  • @HackMyWayOut
    @HackMyWayOut 2 месяца назад

    Found your channel through TechAirSpace Meshtastic T-Deck video. How did I not know about Meshtastic before? Our local HAM circles are out of date! Nice to see "new" HAM stuff pop up.

  • @breakfast7595
    @breakfast7595 2 года назад +4

    This is awesome, I hope to have a Lora mesh between my cars, and the house so that way I can remain connected even in a grid down situation

  • @midnightsailor1
    @midnightsailor1 2 года назад +30

    I find this very intriguing. Especially at the price . Can't wait to see all the possibilities of this as folks start working with it. As always ,thanks for bringing us the best and most communication info anywhere.

    • @iwinrar5207
      @iwinrar5207 2 года назад

      My grandma is close by to where I live. Gunna try this lol

    • @noway905
      @noway905 2 года назад +1

      Your local police and Google are using a similar form of this called RING.

    • @midnightsailor1
      @midnightsailor1 2 года назад +1

      @@noway905 I didnt realize ring was the same thing....so people are self installing their own state surveillance system...as usual any thing good will eventually be put to bad uses if evil people get a hold of it.

  • @markdheilong
    @markdheilong 2 года назад

    Great review of LoRa WAN devices and the use case you presented between two Android devices with the Meshtastic app for messaging between them.
    Love the shirt "Run SSB"!

  • @theguywitheyebrows
    @theguywitheyebrows 2 года назад

    learned about this a couple years ago and wanted to get into it but didn't have enough understanding. much thanks and praise for this video!! these devices and mhe nesh network are a prepper's wetdream.

  • @davidsradioroom9678
    @davidsradioroom9678 2 года назад +16

    Another interesting piece of technology.

  • @unklStewy
    @unklStewy 2 года назад +5

    LoRA makes for a good remote serial port as well, tack one onto your repeater controller.

  • @geartech3860
    @geartech3860 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for explaining I always wondered what these things were for. They look so cool just didn't no what they were for. Nice to see a video that shows how to use it and what they do.

  • @ChatterontheWire
    @ChatterontheWire 6 месяцев назад

    stumbled across this, I know it is a few years old and you've done some others on this since then, but had a good chuckle when I saw the esp32/lora32 device. I have 3 of those from 2018 that have been collecting dust for 5 years, guess I found something to use them for now. Thanks!

  • @stephenholland6328
    @stephenholland6328 2 года назад +21

    I’m glad you present ham radio as very inclusive. Hams are a perfect audience for this even if it isn’t ham band. Hams excel at patching things together. The more tools the better. Also, this tells me there are ICs that are available. So this little video highlights the technology for anything from application to hacking. Great to show these technologies! Love it!

  • @Pyroneurosis
    @Pyroneurosis 2 года назад +146

    NOOOOOOOO. We mustn't let the overlords catch wind of this gem.

    • @JosephSantoro
      @JosephSantoro 2 года назад +17

      Ugh... The overlords invented them.

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 2 года назад +6

      Its a trojan horse

    • @Morberis
      @Morberis 2 года назад +6

      Google already removed the required android app from the store it looks like. Because it needs background location data and that violates app policies.

    • @justawfulgamer7738
      @justawfulgamer7738 Год назад

      @@Morberis sideload

  • @chizukichan
    @chizukichan 2 года назад

    I just subbed to this channel because I'm already holding onto a couple of ESP32-based LoRA devices I've had telemetry and remote control plans for. 😁

  • @BryanChance
    @BryanChance 2 года назад

    I've always been interested in hamm radio. Good to find this channel!!

  • @n1kkri
    @n1kkri 2 года назад +10

    I would enjoy a future video of this with more examples how it could be used.

    • @railgap
      @railgap 2 года назад +1

      but then it wouldn't be a commercial.

  • @paulussantosowidjaja93
    @paulussantosowidjaja93 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for the learning in preparing ourselves like the ETs going off grids all over - hmm not only the globe but also outer space one day. Cheers!

  • @hemitj
    @hemitj 2 года назад

    Thank you for this. Looking forward to more about these.

  • @haatemee6966
    @haatemee6966 2 года назад +1

    I'm an outdoorsy person along with a bunch of friends, I can see this being in our backpacks to set up a network when we're out and about. Cool vid, thanks for sharing 😁

    • @thebotfather6713
      @thebotfather6713 Год назад

      That was gonna be my question so with this I just bring my phone in the words or what not and be able
      To use internet and all that?

    • @JonVlogs123
      @JonVlogs123 Месяц назад

      No, think of it as local mesh network of LoRa devices connected for text messaging. ​@@thebotfather6713

  • @daveshongkongchinachannel
    @daveshongkongchinachannel 2 года назад +4

    Very interesting and informative. The way the world is going, you could imagine how such devices could be implemented and expanded to bring back a truly free internet of sorts.

    • @philiplubduck6107
      @philiplubduck6107 2 года назад

      A sponsored internet, that will be funded by the rich and eventually set up as a controlled and owned frequency.

    • @charleslee808
      @charleslee808 2 года назад

      “funded by the rich and eventually set up as a controlled and owned frequency” - kind of like HAM is now, requiring licensing and is heavily regulated with violators paying hefty fine, loss of equipment, and prison time?

  • @Aangel452
    @Aangel452 2 года назад +8

    Thank you, very informative. This would be a great device for a small community of friends or peepers, to join together in blackout. Will this device work with no internet or basic one to or search features?
    How does one protect the actual open solenoid and parts? Does it come with a protective case, or do we have to get our own like the 3D made version you mentioned.

  • @Rob.Chapman
    @Rob.Chapman 2 года назад

    Fascinating, I've known about about LoRa & MESH for a while, I didn't realise it was quite this cheap, and relatively easy to get in on for a hobbiest - as i am over in Europe though I'll need to do some added research. Thanks for a very informative and well presented video

  • @kakarikiIck
    @kakarikiIck 2 года назад +1

    Really cool technology. Thanks for sharing this video pal.

  • @arikjohnson412
    @arikjohnson412 2 года назад +73

    This is killer - looking for dissident tech for the coming authoritarian era... more please 🙏💕🔥🙌

    • @smith5796
      @smith5796 2 года назад +1

      Lol.

    • @weaponizedautism6199
      @weaponizedautism6199 2 года назад +7

      @@smith5796 laugh now cry later

    • @smith5796
      @smith5796 2 года назад +2

      It's all I've got.

    • @davidjones8942
      @davidjones8942 2 года назад

      @Arik Johnson For what you indicted, anything that operates on RF is not a good choice..... as soon as anything happens, govt sets up RF jamming so only they can communicate.....

    • @Bloodysugar
      @Bloodysugar 2 года назад

      I guess we wont have to wait to be under a dictatorship to see every intelligence agencies able to hack and listen these tecs.

  • @AD6DMDennis
    @AD6DMDennis 2 года назад +3

    This is fascinating.

  • @Mike-mp1hk
    @Mike-mp1hk 2 года назад

    Just got mine in the mail today, so stoked to set it up.

  • @JohnDoe-ff2fc
    @JohnDoe-ff2fc 2 года назад

    Deer hunters in separate stands could now communicate while out in Timbuktu, as well as fishermen, w/o needing walkietalkies and such. Or a camper/hiker that heads out from a base camp to get firewood, water, etc

  • @jojorumbles8749
    @jojorumbles8749 2 года назад +8

    This combined with a raspberry pi, keyboard, screen, and a 3D printer could be amazing.

    • @MrJackal43
      @MrJackal43 2 года назад

      3D printer? Lol, dumb.

    • @ciarfah
      @ciarfah 2 года назад

      @@MrJackal43 How so?

    • @sandordugalin8951
      @sandordugalin8951 2 года назад

      Why the 3D printer specifically?

    • @jojorumbles8749
      @jojorumbles8749 2 года назад +1

      @@sandordugalin8951 well you need to create some kind of framework to house all the components.

  • @richtaft3308
    @richtaft3308 2 года назад +4

    I've worked with LoRa before in a master to multiple slave type scenario. The amazing thing is you're only transmitting about 20mW. This is a variation of DSSS and due to the orthogonal signal spreading, the receiver can pick the signal up below the noise floor. I have been able to get up to 2 miles with the Multitech module. With a 1 watt FHSS module on the same band, with the same antenna, I get about half that range. Not all modules get the same range with the same settings. The Atmel version I tried didn't go nearly as far with the same settings. Atmel didn't know why. A node up on the roof or a pole with a better antenna should go really far.

  • @JamesBond-kg8oy
    @JamesBond-kg8oy 2 года назад

    What a great idea to replace or mod all those Alexa/Google devices without big brother having ultimate control. The potential for independent home automation is endless. Can’t wait to see this system progress.

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 2 года назад

    This is exactly what I wanted to deploy at a particular flea market with no cellular service so that we could split up and still send pictures, messages, locations, etc to each other.

  • @Meshtastic
    @Meshtastic 2 года назад +5

    Josh! Thank for this great video! You opened up the flood gates for Ham Radio Operators with Meshtastic.

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  2 года назад

      No problem. I’m already on your Discord. It helped a lot.

    • @Meshtastic
      @Meshtastic 2 года назад +1

      @@HamRadioCrashCourse *our Discord :)

  • @mactireban3744
    @mactireban3744 2 года назад +27

    Would really love to see the solar power build video. would be great for hiking with friends or build a community network along a trail like the Appellation trail.

    • @45Unit
      @45Unit 2 года назад +2

      That's a great idea.

    • @jimmyt5487
      @jimmyt5487 2 года назад +4

      Appalachian. The ch is the important part.

    • @pesto12601
      @pesto12601 2 года назад +2

      You'd need like 10,000 of these for a few miles of AP trail.. LOL.. cheaper options are available like Sat connections.

  • @artemirrlazaris7406
    @artemirrlazaris7406 2 года назад +1

    What I like about this old tech design is that you only need one node on the hub to translate to a internet connection and if its open.. all users on it can technically operate with a internet connection also through the hub system... but then we would run into bandwidth an energy concerns... hmm.. but operating with texts should always be pretty fast, especially if the text system is completely encoded and stripped down so its software decomplier on the phone meaning the bit data size can be reduced significantly.

  • @radionbikeprepper
    @radionbikeprepper 2 года назад

    Wow. I would like to try this in the future for my OFF-GRID activities.

  • @johnkaelberer237
    @johnkaelberer237 2 года назад +17

    Really good basic review. These devises are quite interesting. I've seen reviews that have these communicate at up to 10 miles in more rural areas, less in cities (height should get more range) and of course topography will play a part. Being a 915 MHz, there shouldn't be many other radio devises to interfere with their use. More than one group can be in the same area and separate from what I hear. Lots of potential uses. Grid/cell phone down, these will keep you connected with others in your area as long as you have a way to keep the battery charged...think solar. Being spread spectrum, others will not be able to easily copy your texts. Very few people other than your UNCLE. Great op sec. I'm looking forward to more info on these and will have to pick up a few. Thanks for the review Josh !

    • @stevezark2152
      @stevezark2152 2 года назад +3

      Except for the helium network 🤣

    • @Akkbar21
      @Akkbar21 2 года назад +1

      op sec? wtf? you a special agent or something? or a tool. ya thats it

  • @Chris_at_Home
    @Chris_at_Home 2 года назад +3

    It’s new to me but fascinating. Have you tried a higher gain antenna? I’m an old tech retired from doing the communications that connects the world. We have a remote place that it would be fun to try it at.

  • @justin764
    @justin764 2 года назад

    Those look like some improvised communication unit from some apocalypse movies, I love it

  • @prephampaul
    @prephampaul 2 года назад

    Great video, I have been using LoRa for my mining devices with 5.8 and 8db Rak antennas for range.

  • @TheBrookeClevenger
    @TheBrookeClevenger 2 года назад +7

    I found your video interesting and informative. Thank you for the effort. Just a note that at one point you are reluctant to reveal your geo-coordinates, understandably. However, the transceiver device on display was showing them after. Of course they may have been spoofed... I hope 🤞

    • @danielvia8705
      @danielvia8705 2 года назад +4

      It's a moot point anyways. He gave his call sign. Anyone can look that up and see a home address. The only downside to being licensed and that info being publicly available.

    • @thebrookereport2610
      @thebrookereport2610 2 года назад

      @@danielvia8705 Ah, thank you for the clarification! I had the distinct feeling that I was missing some essential info :) I'm not very knowledgeable about ham radio, tbh. Very much a beginner. I appreciate your well put reply, cheers!

    • @danielvia8705
      @danielvia8705 2 года назад +1

      @@thebrookereport2610 You're welcome! There's always plenty of welcoming radio amateurs out there eager to help. That's the whole premise of the hobby, education and learning. Plus it's fun and challenging alike.

    • @TheBrookeClevenger
      @TheBrookeClevenger 2 года назад +1

      @@danielvia8705 Thank you for the encouragement :) I've recently purchased a basic SDR, as a starting point to get familiarised. Let the fun begin :)

  • @jovaraszigmantas
    @jovaraszigmantas 2 года назад +13

    Just letting you know that these modules have GPS on them. Meaning that you don't even need your phone for others to see your location. The feature for your location to be pulled from your phone is there because other supported module don't have the GPS. Furthermore there is a new version of ttgo tbeam with better lora and GPS chips on them but is 7$ more expensive. Cheers

    • @teresabarrett8676
      @teresabarrett8676 2 года назад +1

      How would I get the upgraded ttgo tbeam? How do these relate to the new (to southern Nevada) WeLink laser plus radio receiver using mesh router internet access being slowing tested in America?

    • @markmeehan9908
      @markmeehan9908 2 месяца назад

      If these modules incorporate a GPS receiver vs using the one in your smart phone, won’t that significantly decrease the battery life since gps will always be on?

  • @Scaliad
    @Scaliad 2 года назад +1

    First heard of meshtastic only a few days ago from S2 Underground. I like your explanation better... Very intriguing idea for a offgrid communication LAN. I'm half inclined to biy 10 of them and distribute them to neighbors! Though the setup may be more complicated, no license and use of phone or computer offers advantages over HAM or GMRS for the purpose.

  • @pinetreesquad
    @pinetreesquad 2 года назад

    I can see a lot of potential for this type of mesh capabilities.

  • @yugbe
    @yugbe 2 года назад +11

    I watched a video earlier today of someone setting a world record for longest LoRa connection at roughly 150 miles. He was on setting 12 which I belive is long slow, and it was done with a small antenna. It's all about LoS.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess 2 года назад +24

      The 200km guy was me. 73 de HB9BLA

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess 2 года назад +4

      @@chrissewell1608 Line of sight.

    • @sempertard
      @sempertard 2 года назад

      so video is out of the question?

    • @sempertard
      @sempertard 2 года назад +1

      @@chrissewell1608 bummer I was hoping to transmit 8K a 100 miles or so...

    • @thekikendallsautoandrandom1271
      @thekikendallsautoandrandom1271 2 года назад

      @T.J. Kong Satcom is still LOS, HF down to VLF are BLOS, VHF up through Ehf are LOS.

  • @1337Frederick
    @1337Frederick 2 года назад +3

    This is actually very promising. I would like to see a node server software that could encrypt/decrypt incoming/outgoing signals and boost them to customers for use in even wider area scenarios, perhaps even a freeware signal booster that individuals could then utilize to create a free open space signal network through participant networks. This could enable the general public to become empowered enough to finally get rid of the annoying cell carrier networks that overcharge for such a simple service.

    • @davidjones8942
      @davidjones8942 2 года назад

      Isn't there already good encryption apps available for smart devices?

    • @1337Frederick
      @1337Frederick 2 года назад

      @@davidjones8942 I was speaking about possible software for computers and routers, like a ddwrt for this type of service. Something that might allow sharing of routing equipment/home servers that user nodes could be connected to to boost range and make it easier to use the equipment at even longer ranges with a peer controlled network that was secured from privacy invasion.

    • @gg-gn3re
      @gg-gn3re 2 года назад

      "The things network"

  • @2heavyb517
    @2heavyb517 2 года назад

    outstanding intro, looking fwd to more on lora

  • @douglasnewman4163
    @douglasnewman4163 2 года назад

    This is very cool info! Thanks for doing this!

  • @tomsmall6220
    @tomsmall6220 2 года назад +32

    Would like to see real world use. How it handles obstructions (trees, buildings, etc). Also interested in viewing map screen tracking multiple devices. This could be great for hiking, hunting, and more. Awesome video. More of this please. 👍

    • @devinmanderson
      @devinmanderson 2 года назад +8

      If you do any searching about LoRa you'll quickly find a very determined swiss fellow that really gets in depth and has done some very impressive long range test.

    • @MishaDaBear
      @MishaDaBear 2 года назад +1

      As it is far above 70cm and below 2.4 it should do far better than standard WIFI, and but not as well as like DMR on 70cm but permitting much wider bandwidth than 70cm could offer!

    • @penscratch
      @penscratch 2 года назад

      Check out the RUclipsr with the Swiss accent 😂

    • @jameslee522
      @jameslee522 2 года назад +1

      In the suburb aroundy house I've tested a little over a mile with one sitting in the window of my single storey house and the other holding in my hand walking. This could be easily increased by addingore nodes or placing one on high ground.

    • @dB-SPL
      @dB-SPL 2 года назад +2

      @@MishaDaBear At the same power levels (100mW for a T-Beam), text messages over LoRa at 915 MHz have much greater range than DMR on 430-450 MHz. Ham operators in the US can use the 433 MHz LoRa modules and a power amplifier if you really wanted to, but the point is that it's reliable, even at very low power.

  • @TheZolon
    @TheZolon 2 года назад +13

    Been playing with LoRa devices for a couple years now. Got some 433mhz ones and running the Meshtastic HAM settings so I could test even further ranges.
    These can also be used with one of the new LoRa satellites that are in orbit if you get the 433mhz.

    • @TheZolon
      @TheZolon 2 года назад +1

      @@chrissewell1608 nope. But it does cover hundreds of miles.

    • @williamharshman9572
      @williamharshman9572 2 года назад

      For now, I will stick to ham radio. Remember to protect your equipment from EMP, higher solar activity soon.

    • @TheZolon
      @TheZolon 2 года назад

      @@williamharshman9572 if it is in the 433mhz range, it is ham radio.

    • @williamharshman9572
      @williamharshman9572 2 года назад

      @@TheZolon yes but I guess I should have been clearer, HF band ham radio and CB, 0-30 MHz. De kb0jjn.

  • @OMVDmedia
    @OMVDmedia 2 года назад

    I remember some really OG lora technology for long range FPV rc planes

  • @ronaldcheatham1365
    @ronaldcheatham1365 2 года назад

    Excellent content.
    Great idea.
    Definitely will look into.
    Thanks.

  • @CdoGtheGreat
    @CdoGtheGreat 2 года назад +25

    Hello. I'm just stumbled upon your channel, and find this to be very interesting. I am a tinker type guy, and my mind just explored with ideas for this. I'm not even halfway thru your video. Could you multi purpose these to relay a parameter motion sensor mesh? Maybe a wifi or Bluetooth enabled outdoor motion sensor?

    • @chloedemeter5473
      @chloedemeter5473 2 года назад +3

      That's what Dugan says he does. Uses it for perimeter security. Boogereater archive has his old streams. Check the "in order" playlist, should start with the Yankee Boogle video. He has like 5 channels with his old content up on here. Occasionally in flux. Comments on the Boogereater videos should lead you to them if you're interested. Mostly large scale global "political" discussions and self sufficiency stuff. Occasional drunk spiritual ideology streams. It's long form discussion and chat distracts him pretty often but there's lots of good info. I learned a lot anyway. He's the one who I learned about LoRa from.

  • @carsonc1272
    @carsonc1272 2 года назад

    It took me a minute to realize how I could use this but now that I get it the ideas are flowing.

  • @USAFWolf
    @USAFWolf 4 месяца назад

    Super cool concept, gonna have to get some of these to try out!

  • @Iridium242
    @Iridium242 2 года назад +30

    These are very cool, love that T Shirt :)

    • @n7ekg
      @n7ekg 2 года назад +1

      Me, too!! Hey, are you going to be playing with these?

    • @Iridium242
      @Iridium242 2 года назад

      @@n7ekg I want to try, maybe we can test them out

  • @johnd5244
    @johnd5244 2 года назад +5

    This sounds like a promising project. I would need to get the LCD panel soldered, as I haven’t any soldering equipment

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 2 года назад +6

      Time to buy some. I don't know how you've survived without basic tool like that (I use it more than a hammer, most people own hammers). Even a cheap 40-60w rated one for $5 will be plenty for this and lots of projects, just practice on some dead electronics first and this will be easy.
      You could spend more (like mine is a nice one, I've went through a few cheap $3 to $5 ones through my lifetime but since I use it often I spent the cash and got a really nice $70 one that has both the soldering as well as a hot air rework on it with diaphragm pumps so I can do more advanced things like GPU core repairs and tiny SMD parts 1/5 the size of a grain of rice if needed (which in that example was bypassing the stupid timer on a heated blanket that would shut it off every 3 hours so you'd wake up at least twice freezing cold every night and never get a good night's sleep, but disable it's timing circuit by removing one part and perfect! Saved about $40 compared to their "pro model" which is the exact same thing as what I did). Also helpful for other improvements, like a simple solder mod almost doubled the power on my ebike (shunt mod, I noticed the transistors we're rated for 70 amps so I bumped it from 20 amps up to 35 amps so I still have a huge safety factor but lots more performance). Or for computer parts I add voltage bypass controls or you can do shunt mods or other stuff if you're into performance gains.
      But even mundane stuff like soldering a battery pack or adding external devices or anything else (like my drill now uses my quadcopter and airplane batteries so one less battery to charge, or my shaver now uses higher power LiPo for faster shaving, or my calculator now uses cell phone batteries). Also may need to solder the solar panel to the LoRa (I've also made my own solar panels from raw cells). I also use soldering a lot for fixing vehicle wiring, and really I don't know how you've survived this long without one, lol!

  • @antonyiodice5351
    @antonyiodice5351 2 года назад

    Awesome to see this taking off

  • @justcausee
    @justcausee 2 года назад +1

    Lora phone case with a battery included would be amazing for the prepping world.

  • @freedog632
    @freedog632 2 года назад +4

    This could be good on the long trails like AT. A hiker that gets lost, and has something like this, could greatly increase their chances of rescue.

    • @isaacfulton7731
      @isaacfulton7731 2 года назад

      Probably not better than an emergency beacon radio.
      But cool for communication with a group

    • @blagsreport4763
      @blagsreport4763 2 года назад

      Thought the same!! If hikers all grabbed one it would create a usable mesh on busy trails. Save a fortune on subscriptions to emergency GPS systems that are never used and provide hiker to hiker warning system for trail issues... ie. blocked trails or bear sightings 🐻

    • @thomast8539
      @thomast8539 2 года назад

      @@isaacfulton7731 Cell phone is already in the hiker's pocket. No added expense of another device.

  • @The_Privateer
    @The_Privateer 2 года назад +4

    I think it's kind of funny that a lot of RUclips HAMs are leery about giving away their location information (rightly so, IMO) but always feel obliged to announce call sign - which can be looked up on the FCC website for precise location information.

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  2 года назад +3

      I have a PO Box listed.

    • @ApocGuy
      @ApocGuy 2 года назад

      @@HamRadioCrashCourse lucky you. in my country you cant get callsign without providing EXACT adress and until they do background check on you :(

  • @BaffledBelief
    @BaffledBelief 2 года назад

    Sounds good for the upcoming troubles if paired with proper encryption

  • @hoosierdaddy2308
    @hoosierdaddy2308 2 года назад

    Very cool. I just found you. I'm trying to decide if I want to get my ham license or just my grms or both for emergencies such as catastrophes, etc.
    Will check out more of your videos. I subscribed.thanks man..

  • @jehster
    @jehster 2 года назад +5

    Interesting. Any idea what kind of bandwidth they'll support between nodes?

    • @ihatesignupsgrrrrrrr
      @ihatesignupsgrrrrrrr 2 года назад +3

      It sounds very low bandwidth, but I too was hoping to hear this info :/

    • @DJ_Megahertz
      @DJ_Megahertz 2 года назад

      Very little. Just enough to send a few messages.

  • @presidentelectjerryodom3889
    @presidentelectjerryodom3889 2 года назад +16

    I got 13 miles in western SD

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  2 года назад +5

      Wow. How high up are the nodes?

    • @presidentelectjerryodom3889
      @presidentelectjerryodom3889 2 года назад +11

      @@HamRadioCrashCourse 4600ft base station, to 3900 and 3300 lose signal before Mountain overpass.4400 ft. Test was conducted in my vehicle with a mobile unit using a 5db mobile antenna inside the vehicle.14.1 miles

    • @x73.
      @x73. 2 года назад +4

      YT asked me to rate this comment...

    • @briani7858
      @briani7858 2 года назад

      @@presidentelectjerryodom3889 thats pretty slick

  • @mmi6280
    @mmi6280 2 года назад

    This is similar to xbee devices. Thank you for bring these to my attention. I’ll have to check these out.

  • @BobJoe64862
    @BobJoe64862 10 месяцев назад

    A part two video would be great. Maybe with some of the updated firmware features and additional compatible devices now on the market.

  • @ryanb9395
    @ryanb9395 2 года назад +4

    This seems to be similar functionality to the Garmin rhino 750, I have had these for a few generations and they are pretty nice. I use for hunting and can see my hunting partners on the map, as well as send short text messages to each other, and the normal 5watt radio transmissions.

  • @americaswayout4489
    @americaswayout4489 2 года назад +9

    For a Prepper neighborhood for SHTF, this technology might be very important when the grid goes dark. With God's help maybe we will not see the need but just in case a family of the close neighborhood, possibly coming together in a rural location this could be a key? Of course, Ham and CB could be there to use but still simple text messages to the community might be well served. Being Solar is also a great benefit.

    • @ApocGuy
      @ApocGuy 2 года назад

      indeed. just tested similar system, had no problems reaching all five receiver stations and all were at least 10 miles apart from central node. will upped the range and test again in a week or so. love the concept.

  • @eclub1012
    @eclub1012 6 месяцев назад

    You should have 3 visualizations in total, because this video is informative, elegant and interesting, and onlyvideos which are stupid get tons of views. Keep up the good work!

  • @SeabreezeRJ
    @SeabreezeRJ 2 года назад

    liked and subbed. thanks for this - long time interest for emergency mesh setups in disaster response

  • @MadSativa
    @MadSativa 2 года назад +9

    How do we use this for extending range on security devices? Such a those window/door open/close modules, motion detectors, etc? It is a pain to add 10 simplisafe or ring range extenders, and what if I want one connected to a gate 1/4 mile away or 5 gates miles away? This could possibly be game changing.

    • @starrychloe
      @starrychloe 2 года назад

      Those devices cannot pair and control a Bluetooth device, so it’s not possible. These appear to translate Bluetooth into LORA and back again.

    • @nicerperson1
      @nicerperson1 2 года назад

      I can imagine people are already working on this, go to the discord server and see who is doing what 😄

  • @KB0OTY
    @KB0OTY 2 года назад +4

    A non ham was just asking me about this at the gun club yesterday. Thanks for doing my research for me, lol.

  • @truthandreality8465
    @truthandreality8465 2 года назад +1

    Really great video!! Really excellent!! Thanks!!
    Do you recommend any portable/pocket shortwave receivers/transceivers or videos about them?? Great!! Your videos are incredible!! Thanks!!

  • @wellusee
    @wellusee 2 года назад

    Great video. Ground breaking stuff. This I'll be one to watch.

  • @obviouslytwo4u
    @obviouslytwo4u 2 года назад +3

    I literally have no use for this but for some reason I feel like trying to find a use for it

  • @Jody_VE5SAR
    @Jody_VE5SAR 2 года назад +4

    I think both your tablet and phone were both associated with the same device (node 954c), no? So the test message was sent just by bouncing through 954c, and not over LoRa. The fact that the T-Beam's both showed the message indicates they were paired though, so it did have a mesh, you just weren't passing your message over it.

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  2 года назад +1

      Nope. They were connected to their own tbeam.

    • @muhworld2227
      @muhworld2227 2 года назад

      @@HamRadioCrashCourse How? I can't get my iPhone and Android to join the same channel.

  • @suzannehartmann946
    @suzannehartmann946 2 года назад +1

    What an AMAZING way to get elementary kids into simple networking concepts especially LAN type. At first it will seem like a toy to them. But you can add concepts and they will be into a network of people who can expand their interests into more concepts LIKE HAM radio or other aspects of computers! What an entry point to the hardware of computers and networks!

  • @donaldsmith3048
    @donaldsmith3048 2 года назад +2

    I saw some that are Pi Hats. I would love to get to know more about this. I think that there is a lot of different things that can be done with this. It can be used to send thing around town. Not sure what the limit would be with the Pi Hat. With the power of the Pi and this to send between them there is a lot of things that can be done. I hope to hear more about this soon. Thank you for helping keeping up informed!

  • @BrianPyeatt
    @BrianPyeatt 2 года назад +3

    Yes it works with solar charging and everything it also works as a node for ATAk ....
    The down under guys have been working with us for a while there's lots of better antennas available dipoles etc to help improve range a couple different yogis etc

    • @user-dm1tv6nl2e
      @user-dm1tv6nl2e 2 года назад

      ATAC?

    • @victorygarden556
      @victorygarden556 2 года назад

      If you know of any antennas or antenna criteria beyond dipole that work better for this please send a reply comment

    • @jasonpearson1555
      @jasonpearson1555 2 года назад

      Following please send😂😅

  • @robprupe
    @robprupe 2 года назад +3

    Could I use my SDR to see if there is any traffic in my area? Seems pointless if its just going to be me on the network.

    • @cdorcey1735
      @cdorcey1735 2 года назад +1

      You might not see it on your SDR, even if it's there, due to the chirp-spread-spectrum modulation.

  • @HamRadio2
    @HamRadio2 2 года назад +1

    Great vid. Might have to put one out in the lease on the AREDN spot I am building

  • @lethltruth
    @lethltruth 2 года назад +2

    Spent hours looking into this. Great system but would like to see more applications.