thanks.... very informative. sat thru leaf filter sales pitch.... started at $8700, to $5300, to $3750.... to $2700. oh my god.... thought i was buying a used car. appreciate... just the facts.
LeafFilter- just had that installed here in Vancouver, Canada: he is bang on when he says they are charging way too much. Promise to remove & reposition gutters in order for the filters to be positioned at an angle but alas, such was not the case - product sits fairly flat. I watched one guy talking about how much per linear foot you should pay for these guards to be installed & he indicated from 15$ to $20. A lot of money for two guys to do a minimum of work for 6 hrs. Be cautious when you hire them & keep an eye on them as they work.
Do the math. $15.00 to $20.00X 200/LF (guess at length of gutters) = $3,000.00 to $4,000.00. You could probably hire someone to clean your gutters for around $150.00. So you could have your gutters professionally cleaned for 20 to 30 years for the cost of LeafFilter. I'd opt to hire someone to clean my gutters.
Really enjoyed both of the videos you did on gutter guards. It really shows "buyer beware - buyer be informed". I tried several DIY gutter covers, and none of them kept the fine materials out. My wife and I attended a home show and saw a demo of LeafFilter. We were fooled by their smooth demo. I am sad to say I spent about $5,000 to have them installed on our house. We had a contract where they would rehang my 6" aluminum gutters, slope them correctly to the downspouts, and install their product. They did not do what they were contracted to do, and actually cut the "raised edge" off the back of the cover. Didn't find out till after they left as I was out of town on business during the install. They asked the wife is it looked good and she said yes - but she didn't get up on the roof to take a look. We called them back several times and never got any resolution - they kept sending out the same 2 guys (who didn't seem to know what they were supposed to be doing). Gave up on LeafFilter vowing to tell everyone I knew not to buy from them like I did. What can I say, a sucker is born every day and they got me good. I like the Micro Mesh you demo'ed, and the LeafFilter would probably work fine if installed correctly. My next door neighbor had the LeafGuard system installed 2 years ago, and he has not had any problems - his roof pitch is 7/12, and mine is 6/12. Was thinking about going with LeafGuard but after seeing your recommendations, I could get new gutters & Micro Mesh for about the same cost. I believe this would work better for me. Thanks for the info!
I have a system for gutter covers that is absolutely the only cover I install, for many logical reasons. I've been a gutter guy for 27 years, in business 16 years. The best way I've found to provide the best was to invest alot of time, money and get the Tooling Van Mark makes available to gutter guys, so I built my 20' enclosed trailer, to allow for brake and stand, gutter machine, trim a gutter , slitter, All van Mark tools, can take 5" gutter coil and make 100's of feet in a few hours. Creating the perfect cover. Oh and it works great, very rarely do I have to go back. Although valley areas and steep roofs do not always work out. I have alot to add to conversation about covers.
Good info and I appreciate the insightful reviews, but, I have had micromesh on my gutters for about 5+ years and the mesh is plugged with the same black mold that I have on the roof. In heavy rains, the mesh is too fine and water sheds of the gutters anyway. Even if I blow the mesh off annually, cleaning the mesh would require either removal (a real pain) or in place chemical or mechanical cleaning. Bottom line, I am pulling mine off. Recognize that these micro mesh guards are not maintenance free and will require frequent cleaning. A more valid test would be to check on the mesh pluggage after a year or two of use.
The micro mesh guards are the new technology and they have a serious flaw for those who live in áreas that get snow and ice. When it snows the mesh holds the snow causing the bottom layer to freeze over night. When the sun begins to melt the top layers water spills out of the gutter guard onto your driveway or walkway. When temperatures drop again the water freezes creating a dangerous layer of ice on the ground. On the other hand the kids will probably love the new ice skating rink...
Just had the Leaf Filter guy come out to quote today. He started at $21,000 for 530 feet! He dropped his price to $13,000 before he left. Later he called back and said he could do the job for $7,000. I'm so glad that I've seen your videos so I knew how to negotiate.
Need to add an update. After confirming with the sales guy that the downspouts and complete underground drainage system would be cleaned on the day of the install the install guys said that they don’t do that. They also said that the sales guys lie all the time to get business. The installers did a decent job. I got a 100 ft extension and special head for my pressure washer and just finished working all day to try to clear the drains. Cleaned one and have four still clogged! Ugh!
I keep watching this video, Leaf Solution accessories look amazing. Just wish they would sell them as their local dealer will not without a complete install
This guy is SO easy to listen to and very knowledgeable. I hope he keeps putting out great videos like this. I'm so glad I found his content. I recommend anyone who is into diy and gutters subscribe to his content. It's a great reference and he provides a TON of great insight based on years of experience and thousands of different product installs.
That was a great to the point explanation on gutter protraction. Our house has the dreaded bad 4 reasons that screens won’t work, even with a modified clipped gable in 3 spots otherwise simple medium 22 square shingle roof. #1. We have the 1980 120 foot tree in the front yard that produces the smallest oblong leaf I have ever seen. #2 We have 12 ponderosa trees at 90 feet tall on the sides and the back. They produce the 6-7” long needles in clusters of three. #3 We live in the central upper Midwest and enjoy 4 seasons. Even with thru roof damp vents (Kitchen, Bathrooms that are insulated) and R64 in the attic. A 4” rise in 12” is not intimidating but still, weather conditions create Ice dams. We have no internal leaks because we have 3 rows of ice and water shield under architectural asphalt shingles are the heavy 25-30 year type. #4 We are both unable to work so money is tight. So the guy who comes to the door is wasting his/her time. Sorry, I hate these package parts/labor deals. They offer 50% off labor but wait a year, with no current offers during the busy season, same price. What? 50% off of 150% Mark-up = same price. Oh, you won’t get a warranty if you do them yourself. Who cares. Here is the color & length, get the hardware and caps, and I will do the front this year only, myself. I climbed micro-wave and TV towers to 1,980 feet and heights don’t bother me. Well, the next owner won’t get warranty, who cares. My son gets the house and I am not leaving unless feet first. Nice video! ASE Master Tech since 1978 - Retired
I've been using Leaf Solution exclusively for 5 years. No issues, except for deferred maintenance on the part of the homeowners, and I love the accessories! I roof in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains in Northern California.
I have to learn from the best ! Because I will be doing by educating myself and with help from someone I trust . Thank you for sharing you knowledge and your honesty . Like many I'm so Thankful I have a small home in times such as these , and I'm doing my best with what I have been Blessed with . Be Blessed in what you do ⚒
You also need to consider if have a Shingle or Metal roof. Makes a huge difference. Mainly installation. Leaf guard covers that you see on TV suck with metal roofs. Water comes off roof so fast, and with so much volume that it flows over like a water fall.
There is a guy that has videos on installing french drains. He recommends to prevent clogged gutters oversize the downspouts. The theory is the faster you move the water the less debris can collect.
I have searched for the best gutter cover and thought I had the best when I purchased a aluminum extrusion backed micro mesh cover a number of years ago . . My primary challenge was to prevent tulip maple seeds which are about 30% of the size of a maple tree seed from getting in my gutters . I have numerous oak trees on the property but preventing leafs from them getting into the gutter is easy. My experience with the micro mesh has been mixed. I have a mansard house with a flat roof which in many places concentrates the runoff depending on the water flow and the variations of the roofs surface resulting in water overrunning the gutters in moderate to heavy rains . Where the water was running over the gutter the supplier replaced the micro mesh with a mesh that was larger at 50-60 thousandths square . This solved the problem except in a torrential storm . In the winter the metal micro mesh would often freeze over as water melted off the roof and ran off the roof . I had icicles several feet long hanging from the gutters . To offset this problem I installed heating cable on top of the mesh secured by hand made aluminum clips and purchased a automatic controller to control the on/off for the heat cable. The heating wire does catch debris and I must clean the top of the micro mesh in the fall . Also, after 6+years on the North side of my house the micro mesh is accumulating mold which plugs the micro mesh . In the fall I use a stainless steel brush and scrub the surface of the micro mesh to open it up to accept water . Getting gutter covers to work in all situations is very difficult as I have found out . My gutter covers are still in place after 8-9 years but require annual maintenance but do prevent debris from getting into the gutter . Life is made of compromises !
You captured the problem my customer has with her mesh gutter system. She pays me to brush off her mesh which has been clogged. They work again for about one year and then we do it again.
I agree. As a Master Home Imorovement specialist, I have instaled and worked with or worked for some of these top companies before I started MHIC. The Miters are inded agame changer. The Pro series is Premo if you have tree canopies moreover it is a shinge mount. At 12% pitch under your single It will out preform anything mounted flat. Think about it - it used gavity. I operate out Atlanta marketplace.
I wholeheartedly agree with your comments about LeafFilter pricing and sales tactics. My wife called for an appointment and had the salesman stop by yesterday. He gave a very thorough sales presentation and the product seemed to be of good quality and what I would prefer. My issue was the sales tactics. I felt like I was at some sleazy used car dealership (I know not all are sleazy). We were quoted an extremely high price and it dropped each time we said no until we got to something reasonable. I can't do business with a company that employs these tactics. Please just give me your best price. I want a fair deal and want you to get a fair deal. I don't want you to give anything away but I don't want you to steal from me either. Prices were as follows $4094- good for a year, $3480- good for today, $2480 if I signed immediately, $2480 if my install dates were flexible (a filler job when some other job cancelled on the day of installation) and finally a rock bottom price of $1335. I felt like even $1500 would fair but had to say no just because I felt they were trying to gouge me from the start.
Thanks for the direct info, and the great comments below... I see it is different for each household in terms of vegetation variety, size of debris and whether stuff....I think I will stick to getting them cleaned twice a year for $175!
I have the inside corner with the splash guard and it's terrible about filling up with leaves and debris and then overflows and comes into the basement. I think I'll put some micro mesh there and take out the splash guards.
Thank you for the review. Your correct with Leaf Filter sales gimmick. They come in with a high price and now a Covid price significantly lower. At this point I lost interset and ask the sales guy to leave. Left a bad impression of the company.
I agree with you about Leaf Filter, I had one of these sales guys come to my house and give me a big presentation. He would not give me a price till the end. When he finally told me the price, I was floored! He came down to to half of that that and I still said no way. I had to h Kick him out of my house. They are the biggest rip offs.
Never use leaf guards that are designed to insert under your starter course of shingles. That can create some damage and future water seepage under the water proof membrane under your shingles and the edge of the sheathing and fascia boards will begin rotting. Also, in Florida, building codes require the starter course of shingles to be glued down to the aluminum drip edge with roof cement. The bead of roof cement is applied 4 inches wide so the cement covers the drip edge and runs onto the underneath membrane which is usually a peel-n-stick designed product. Never attempt to pry up that starter course of shingles to slide leaf guards under the shingles which would cause major damage to the shingles.
Really helpful, thanks. You mentioned other makers of micro-mesh, & I'm curious if you have experience with Gutter Guards America. A mailing from them is what got me into the search that led to your video.
This is a really helpful video. A couple of questions On the micro mesh, how does it work with standing seam metal roofs? With most of the systems that attach to the facia, how do you remove it easily to clean the gutter when its needed?
A relative has the Leaf Guard. It is at least 10 years old, likely more. The gutters sagged and the birds and the bees have found it a most suitable place for a home. I will either install the micro-mess myself, or find a reputable gutter company. Thanks. I give your link a try.
Great explanation!! I so appreciate the tech info. I used one of the white plastic shields on a previous house. It actually did pretty well, though a wind storm did dame a few pieces. Ah well, it was Texas. The killer now is that I have a severe drop in the back yard, so I need a very tall ladder to do this. Or, get a contractor. Thanks again. Dan
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My gutter guy is the ideal gutter guy. Very professional and very informed. I loved micro mesh up until a few months ago when he told me that when pollen gets on them and water hits them, it turns into a clay that clogs up the micro mesh. He said it takes 1-3 years, but i haven’t personally seen it myself. Maybe I’ll go inspect the homes I installed it on years back and see how they’re doing.
This is good information, I need to install gutters on my house with protection from all the pine needles that fall on my house. I was looking at one gutter guard or leaf blaster pro, looks like leaf solutions will another point to consider.
As a contractor I have replaced 5 house loads of gutter because of the mesh. the material that settles on the mesh breaks down and forms a fine silt in the gutter. The fine silt builds up to the point where the gutter capacity is greatly reduced and eventually the gutter rots out. The mesh should also be placed away from internal gutter corners as the water rushes down the valley and straight over the gutter mesh onto the ground.
A customer of mine has this issue as well. The fine mesh has become one clogged mat. The water now runs over the screen mesh instead of going down into the gutter. Not all places, but in valley areas and areas where a pine tree and oak tree pelt her roof.
I've been installing gutters and siding for 3 years. And when it comes to gutter guards I would recommend a mesh product for homes that either have a couple trees or the roof is not to steep. If you, the home owner have a ridiculous amount of trees, get them trimmed or cut, and if you're roof is to steep, just hire someone to clean them out, and go with option 1 of this video
As a gutter cleaner, I agree the mesh product is very good, but with trees and steep pitched roofs, it also is not perfect. I have a customer whose neighbor has some fairly leafy trees and pine trees that are not in harmony with her mesh gutter guards. Secondly, the mesh is now clogged with dirt and debris such that on a heavy rainfall the water just runs over the top. Terrible, not just a little.
I have tried several different gutter guards many of which you gave examples, Leaf Solutions appears to be my best bet. My neighbor used Leafguard but they are way to pricey for what you get.
I recently have installed a micro mesh gutter, called Gutter guard sold at Home Depot. It is a stainless steel micro mesh ,4 ft lengths .I am replacing old vinyl mesh style gutter screen 3ft sections, which are showing their age due to sun damage and glued on plastic screens are peeling off. I have large pin oak trees in my yard over 50 ft. Which constantly drop leafs and twigs on my roof and gutters after high winds. But I am extremely impressed with the new Gutter guards on their strength, durability, effectiveness, ease of installation and cost. I did watch your videos as research for types of gutter guards and their effectiveness, nice job, keep up the good work. I do have a 3 story house with over 180 ft of gutter length on entire home and garage. But these Gutter guards are screwed down to the gutter lip on my house vs screwed to fascia and gutter lip. But they can be screwed to fascia if needed. But I’m hoping these will last a very long time and not breaking down due to sun damage and high winds.
I’m going to look into these. It’s insane what “professional” gutter people want for their products. I like the 4’ lengths you mention. I had some vinyl covers on my old house but they were only about 2’ long. But even those I had to remove usually once or twice a year because the maple tree “helicopters” would land and get stuck in the mesh openings then rot and clog the gutters.
I’m a gutter installer. Been doing it for about 2 hours. Lol. Man, you did pull ups on your gutters?!! That’s insane. I am replacing my gutters, and will be using some kind of guard. I clean my gutters about six times a year. Your video is helpful.
The mesh must be the best. I have a gutter product that came in sections similar to Leaf Guard and I'm just sick of it. I live in an area of Idaho that just swarms with wasps who like to build nests in the gutter then after season when the rain comes the big nests clog the downspouts. I would think the mesh type is the way to go. I will switch before next season for sure.
Apparently the micro mesh products don’t work in cold climates where there is snow or freezing temps. That should be mentioned. A lot of other product reviewers in cold climates are suggesting the larger hole mesh covers.
You had me at Worst Product Ever! I put those in my gutters about 5 years ago, cleaned them twice, but after seeing your review I'm tossing them for good! We have been getting so much rain here in Wilmington, NC they are starting to grow into the house! Came across your video and decided to follow your advice. Just ordered the Micro GutterGloves from Home Depot. I hope this is the last time I"m up on the ladder messing around with these gutters! Thanks for doing this video!
@@TrussttN01 so far so good! The only problem is we live in a HOA sharing a roof and gutters and I’m the only one taking care of my gutters, so debris is still coming from the neighbors.
I have Guard Guard on a house with a steep roof. It works very well and I have not had to clean out my gutters at all since I had it installed years ago. I also have LeafGuard on a smaller house next to the one that I have Gutter Guard on. It does not work as well because leaves and debris build up on it.
I have those valley dams mounted on gutters and with our trees they are always garbage pits. Nice idea on removing and putting in that extended micro mesh fittings.
I have been a full time gutter company for 10 years and do all of the work myself. My experience is the first black type with the black holes does not work. I installed some on a neighbors house 10 years ago. After 5 years they were full and I saw a garden every day in their gutters as I drove home. I just installed a micro mesh system 2 years ago on their house. I have been putting up micro mesh for years and have found they are the best. I like the Costco ones or the plain gutter glove micro mesh.
Have you ever used EASY ON GUTTER GUARDS? I like those Leaf Solutions covers you demonstrated, but already had purchased easy on from Costco on sale. I think they’ll be fine?
how does the leaf solutions do with pine needles? I herd that with other mesh systems the neddles get stuck straight up then causing other things to get stuck in front of it causing a clog.
The problem with all these (which I have tried), is in heavy rain, the water glides right across the filter and over the edge. It forms surface tension.
I wonder if there would be a way to mix the micro mesh inside miters and LeafGuard. The biggest problem I run into with LG is the miters overflowing. Otherwise, I have a hard time running into an unhappy LG customer, as far as the product is concerned...
Mine has just been installed and it looks like it will do the job nicely. The Leaf Filter price started out at $9000, then $6500, then $2550. I'm in a wildfire zone in NorCal and $2550 is cheap to prevent blowing burning embers from setting dry leaves in the gutters on fire. I blew the gutters out 2 weeks ago with an Echo 770 backpack blower and after the winds the other day they got half full of leaves and pine needles. I blew them out before the installers got here. Cost me $14.10 per foot installed.
In spite of the hype, all gutter filtration systems require at least some maintenance, some get seriously clogged and require a lot due to local climate, foliage, and other conditions. The buildup of organic material on exterior surfaces is just the way it goes...
the only maintenance required with Waterloov is a broom brush off and that's only in the midwest where oak leaves and pitch sticks to the top of the cover. In my territory we have cedar trees which shed all year. I've never been back to clean a gutter or honor my warranty on any of the jobs I've ever done. That would be at least 100,000 in the 22 years I've done this.
^This. I think people want a set it and forget it solution and that just doesn't exist. I installed the plastic micro-mesh style and I've found a long handled brush, some water and a little bit of dish soap is all you need. Twice a year wipe them down and rinse them off and it clears all the clog caused by single debris and pollen and it only takes an hour.
The roofer who installed my new Atlas Roof told me my gutter guards are in perfect shape...they are 18 years old... The problem with Leaf Filter, The salesmen are giving over $5000 estimates....
Still have to get up on a ladder...or pay someone to do it. -holes too big? ..shingle debris and sediment settle in your gutter. -holes too small? (screens)...stuff settles and eventually you have water running off them.
They all suck. Debris collects on top of the screens and just creates a stoppage. Sheeting action gutters just causes water to splash over the top. Best I’ve found are just proper half-round gutters with sufficiently large down spouts. The debris washes down the spout that way, and while they still require cleaning occasionally, it’s not nearly as often as cheap square shaped gutters.
Gutter professional here. Gutters aren't square shaped except in commercial applications. Half round is fine and nice looking, but not as effective as a K style gutter of the same width. A k style of the same width holds more water and is less likely to have the water run over in valleys. Also 98% of residential gutter applications are 5" and 6" K Style gutters. Half round is only really used on really upscale residential, historical restoration, and some commercial applications. As far as protection goes. Nothing is perfect. There is no system that you won't have to clean occasionally. Especially in valleys. But a Micromesh system is the best.
Mesh/Screens do not work here in the Pacific NW. In the wet winters, algae and moss clog the screens. In the Spring, it's Douglas fir pollen. Calling the company who sold and installed them (Leaf Filter), they say they (deceptively) guarantee the gutters not clogging, not the screens (make "sense". If the screens don't pass thru water, the gutters can't clog!) So I am still up on a ladder, with a power washer, trying to blast the mesh open twice a year.
Only thing about micro mesh is any liquid that has the ability to dry and harden will slowly overtime clog the micro mesh. After that happens, you are done for. There is no cleaning the organic concrete that has dried inside the pores of the micro mesh.
Hi can you list product information or a link of the first one you spoke about. I think it’s the micro mesh. Can you add a link to the actual one that can be purchased from Homedepot? Thank you
You over looked the best one Raindrop Gutter Guards Your mesh are good but debrie will sit on top under the worst conditions Rgg is the best With good piitches, raindrop wide mouth Over size down spouts It's the least likely system to fail It's hail resistant and it runs better with heat lines too it's slippery slick leave falll right off. The micro channels allow micro debrie to go in and filter out If the installer does a good job installing The gutters With raindrop gutter guards There is nothing better I have install gutters for 20 years Last seven years I just been cleaning Gutters Raindrop gutter guard is superior and 2nd to none I would bet my life on it
Hi do you see any issues with installing Leaf Solutions gutter guards under the shingles? I just had a new roof installed and want to make sure I don't incur any problems. Thanks
Hello, we just signed on with Done Right Construction in Shirley to install the leaf guard filter. Cost for 1700 soft was 2800.00. Does that seem reasonable. Are these good contractors?
I hope you could make a video about roofers that replace old roofs and put nails every foot of the gutters to hold them up while removing old drip edge and then covering up the nails with new drip edge. Just for me as a gutter installer to have to almost destroy the new drip edge trying to remove the hidden nails to replace the gutters that most roofers dont know about keeping the gutter pitched and wedged correctly to keep the bottom parallel with the ground/90* from the wall.... (roofers and gutter guys should be friends not enemies) we could help each other make more money 💵 💵 💵
In my town is educated the roofers early on to run the shingles past the drip edge 3/4 of an inch.I was met with protest but eventually they came around when I told them what if people don't put gutters on that go behind the drip edge.? The water's running down the fascia and rotting it. They will come around and the roofers will be your friends. Understand they are reluctant to admit they've been doing it wrong. I would like to talk to you about something else if you can give me a call please 208-610-3300
Your insights are very good and you showed me a product I was unaware of, the 90 degree piece. I've had problems with my gutter cover ever since the roof was replaced due to hail damage. The hail destroyed the gutter cover (Gutter Helmet) but left the gutter intact. Roofing company did not take care in how they delivered new roofing materials to the roof, just standard ladders leaning against the gutters. I believe they have caused the problem I have in one area where the water always overflows up to five feet from the 90 degree corner. The overflow is on the side of a steep and long roof line as well. I've measured the gutter and see where it hangs down and is not level. I've used plastic wedges to help with the balancing but it's still not the answer. The roofer has installed deflectors in the area affected but it doesn't help during heavy rain. I'm going to buy the 90 degree corne piece you recommended and see if that'll do the trick.
Only problem now is getting someone from Leaf Solutions to let me know where I can purchase the miters. I called their home office and left a message yesterday but no one has returned my call. Their "contact us" portion of their website doesn't work properly, so I'm not sure how to reach them. Their customer service ratings were a constant 1 of 5 as well, looks like a good product with no sales & support??? Ideas???
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thanks.... very informative. sat thru leaf filter sales pitch.... started at $8700, to $5300, to $3750.... to $2700. oh my god.... thought i was buying a used car. appreciate... just the facts.
Wow. Leaf filter is the worst.
LeafFilter- just had that installed here in Vancouver, Canada: he is bang on when he says they are charging way too much. Promise to remove & reposition gutters in order for the filters to be positioned at an angle but alas, such was not the case - product sits fairly flat. I watched one guy talking about how much per linear foot you should pay for these guards to be installed & he indicated from 15$ to $20. A lot of money for two guys to do a minimum of work for 6 hrs. Be cautious when you hire them & keep an eye on them as they work.
Do the math. $15.00 to $20.00X 200/LF (guess at length of gutters) = $3,000.00 to $4,000.00. You could probably hire someone to clean your gutters for around $150.00. So you could have your gutters professionally cleaned for 20 to 30 years for the cost of LeafFilter. I'd opt to hire someone to clean my gutters.
Really enjoyed both of the videos you did on gutter guards. It really shows "buyer beware - buyer be informed".
I tried several DIY gutter covers, and none of them kept the fine materials out. My wife and I attended a home show and saw a demo of LeafFilter. We were fooled by their smooth demo. I am sad to say I spent about $5,000 to have them installed on our house. We had a contract where they would rehang my 6" aluminum gutters, slope them correctly to the downspouts, and install their product. They did not do what they were contracted to do, and actually cut the "raised edge" off the back of the cover. Didn't find out till after they left as I was out of town on business during the install. They asked the wife is it looked good and she said yes - but she didn't get up on the roof to take a look. We called them back several times and never got any resolution - they kept sending out the same 2 guys (who didn't seem to know what they were supposed to be doing). Gave up on LeafFilter vowing to tell everyone I knew not to buy from them like I did. What can I say, a sucker is born every day and they got me good.
I like the Micro Mesh you demo'ed, and the LeafFilter would probably work fine if installed correctly. My next door neighbor had the LeafGuard system installed 2 years ago, and he has not had any problems - his roof pitch is 7/12, and mine is 6/12. Was thinking about going with LeafGuard but after seeing your recommendations, I could get new gutters & Micro Mesh for about the same cost. I believe this would work better for me.
Thanks for the info!
thanks for feedback. Did our best to explain what we see on the jobs and for sale, not all gutter covers work as advertised. most dont....
I have a system for gutter covers that is absolutely the only cover I install, for many logical reasons.
I've been a gutter guy for 27 years, in business 16 years.
The best way I've found to provide the best was to invest alot of time, money and get the Tooling Van Mark makes available to gutter guys, so I built my 20' enclosed trailer, to allow for brake and stand, gutter machine, trim a gutter , slitter,
All van Mark tools, can take 5" gutter coil and make 100's of feet in a few hours. Creating the perfect cover. Oh and it works great, very rarely do I have to go back. Although valley areas and steep roofs do not always work out.
I have alot to add to conversation about covers.
Good info and I appreciate the insightful reviews, but, I have had micromesh on my gutters for about 5+ years and the mesh is plugged with the same black mold that I have on the roof. In heavy rains, the mesh is too fine and water sheds of the gutters anyway. Even if I blow the mesh off annually, cleaning the mesh would require either removal (a real pain) or in place chemical or mechanical cleaning. Bottom line, I am pulling mine off. Recognize that these micro mesh guards are not maintenance free and will require frequent cleaning. A more valid test would be to check on the mesh pluggage after a year or two of use.
The micro mesh guards are the new technology and they have a serious flaw for those who live in áreas that get snow and ice. When it snows the mesh holds the snow causing the bottom layer to freeze over night. When the sun begins to melt the top layers water spills out of the gutter guard onto your driveway or walkway. When temperatures drop again the water freezes creating a dangerous layer of ice on the ground. On the other hand the kids will probably love the new ice skating rink...
Just had the Leaf Filter guy come out to quote today. He started at $21,000 for 530 feet! He dropped his price to $13,000 before he left. Later he called back and said he could do the job for $7,000. I'm so glad that I've seen your videos so I knew how to negotiate.
Need to add an update. After confirming with the sales guy that the downspouts and complete underground drainage system would be cleaned on the day of the install the install guys said that they don’t do that. They also said that the sales guys lie all the time to get business. The installers did a decent job. I got a 100 ft extension and special head for my pressure washer and just finished working all day to try to clear the drains. Cleaned one and have four still clogged! Ugh!
I keep watching this video, Leaf Solution accessories look amazing. Just wish they would sell them as their local dealer will not without a complete install
This guy is SO easy to listen to and very knowledgeable. I hope he keeps putting out great videos like this. I'm so glad I found his content. I recommend anyone who is into diy and gutters subscribe to his content. It's a great reference and he provides a TON of great insight based on years of experience and thousands of different product installs.
That was a great to the point explanation on gutter protraction. Our house has the dreaded bad 4 reasons that screens won’t work, even with a modified clipped gable in 3 spots otherwise simple medium 22 square shingle roof. #1. We have the 1980 120 foot tree in the front yard that produces the smallest oblong leaf I have ever seen. #2 We have 12 ponderosa trees at 90 feet tall on the sides and the back. They produce the 6-7” long needles in clusters of three. #3 We live in the central upper Midwest and enjoy 4 seasons. Even with thru roof damp vents (Kitchen, Bathrooms that are insulated) and R64 in the attic. A 4” rise in 12” is not intimidating but still, weather conditions create Ice dams. We have no internal leaks because we have 3 rows of ice and water shield under architectural asphalt shingles are the heavy 25-30 year type. #4 We are both unable to work so money is tight. So the guy who comes to the door is wasting his/her time. Sorry, I hate these package parts/labor deals. They offer 50% off labor but wait a year, with no current offers during the busy season, same price. What? 50% off of 150% Mark-up = same price. Oh, you won’t get a warranty if you do them yourself. Who cares. Here is the color & length, get the hardware and caps, and I will do the front this year only, myself. I climbed micro-wave and TV towers to 1,980 feet and heights don’t bother me. Well, the next owner won’t get warranty, who cares. My son gets the house and I am not leaving unless feet first. Nice video!
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I've been using Leaf Solution exclusively for 5 years. No issues, except for deferred maintenance on the part of the homeowners, and I love the accessories! I roof in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains in Northern California.
I have to learn from the best !
Because I will be doing by educating myself and with help from someone I trust .
Thank you for sharing you knowledge and your honesty .
Like many I'm so
Thankful I have a small home in times such as these , and I'm doing my best with what I have been Blessed with .
Be Blessed in what you do ⚒
We use Gutter Clean. They have inside and outside corners. But I always recommend not using anything. Just clean them.
Kudos!.
Wonderful. Just bought house and was shopping fir gutter guards. Thank you very much.
You also need to consider if have a Shingle or Metal roof. Makes a huge difference. Mainly installation. Leaf guard covers that you see on TV suck with metal roofs. Water comes off roof so fast, and with so much volume that it flows over like a water fall.
There is a guy that has videos on installing french drains. He recommends to prevent clogged gutters oversize the downspouts. The theory is the faster you move the water the less debris can collect.
I have searched for the best gutter cover and thought I had the best when I purchased a aluminum extrusion backed micro mesh cover a number of years ago . . My primary challenge was to prevent tulip maple seeds which are about 30% of the size of a maple tree seed from getting in my gutters . I have numerous oak trees on the property but preventing leafs from them getting into the gutter is easy. My experience with the micro mesh has been mixed. I have a mansard house with a flat roof which in many places concentrates the runoff depending on the water flow and the variations of the roofs surface resulting in water overrunning the gutters in moderate to heavy rains . Where the water was running over the gutter the supplier replaced the micro mesh with a mesh that was larger at 50-60 thousandths square . This solved the problem except in a torrential storm . In the winter the metal micro mesh would often freeze over as water melted off the roof and ran off the roof . I had icicles several feet long hanging from the gutters . To offset this problem I installed heating cable on top of the mesh secured by hand made aluminum clips and purchased a automatic controller to control the on/off for the heat cable. The heating wire does catch debris and I must clean the top of the micro mesh in the fall . Also, after 6+years on the North side of my house the micro mesh is accumulating mold which plugs the micro mesh . In the fall I use a stainless steel brush and scrub the surface of the micro mesh to open it up to accept water . Getting gutter covers to work in all situations is very difficult as I have found out . My gutter covers are still in place after 8-9 years but require annual maintenance but do prevent debris from getting into the gutter . Life is made of compromises !
You captured the problem my customer has with her mesh gutter system. She pays me to brush off her mesh which has been clogged. They work again for about one year and then we do it again.
Using a copper mesh might prevent mold as well as moss.
Great presentations, you do a great job! Thanks so much... 🆒️🌧, from Western Pennsylvania.
Thanks man!!! We doing our best! Dmitry
I agree. As a Master Home Imorovement specialist, I have instaled and worked with or worked for some of these top companies before I started MHIC. The Miters are inded agame changer. The Pro series is Premo if you have tree canopies moreover it is a shinge mount. At 12% pitch under your single It will out preform anything mounted flat. Think about it - it used gavity. I operate out Atlanta marketplace.
As a professional contractor in Connecticut i think Leaf Solution is a awesome product at a affordable price.
I wholeheartedly agree with your comments about LeafFilter pricing and sales tactics. My wife called for an appointment and had the salesman stop by yesterday. He gave a very thorough sales presentation and the product seemed to be of good quality and what I would prefer. My issue was the sales tactics. I felt like I was at some sleazy used car dealership (I know not all are sleazy). We were quoted an extremely high price and it dropped each time we said no until we got to something reasonable. I can't do business with a company that employs these tactics. Please just give me your best price. I want a fair deal and want you to get a fair deal. I don't want you to give anything away but I don't want you to steal from me either. Prices were as follows $4094- good for a year, $3480- good for today, $2480 if I signed immediately, $2480 if my install dates were flexible (a filler job when some other job cancelled on the day of installation) and finally a rock bottom price of $1335. I felt like even $1500 would fair but had to say no just because I felt they were trying to gouge me from the start.
Thank you for your review! I'm getting tired cleaning my gutters every 3 months!
me tooooo!!!
The right covers will help tremendously. Just make sure you don't leave any gaps for birds to get into because they make nests.
My friend’s father was killed when he fell from a tall ladder
I greatly appreciate your honesty with a good product.
Thanks for the direct info, and the great comments below... I see it is different for each household in terms of vegetation variety, size of debris and whether stuff....I think I will stick to getting them cleaned twice a year for $175!
I have the inside corner with the splash guard and it's terrible about filling up with leaves and debris and then overflows and comes into the basement. I think I'll put some micro mesh there and take out the splash guards.
Thank you for the review. Your correct with Leaf Filter sales gimmick. They come in with a high price and now a Covid price significantly lower. At this point I lost interset and ask the sales guy to leave. Left a bad impression of the company.
Thank you so much.
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Raindrop is what I choose. Its great.
I agree with you about Leaf Filter, I had one of these sales guys come to my house and give me a big presentation. He would not give me a price till the end. When he finally told me the price, I was floored! He came down to to half of that that and I still said no way. I had to h
Kick him out of my house. They are the biggest rip offs.
Great video, very informative. Wish this gentleman installed in Kennesaw, Ga.
Never use leaf guards that are designed to insert under your starter course of shingles. That can create some damage and future water seepage under the water proof membrane under your shingles and the edge of the sheathing and fascia boards will begin rotting. Also, in Florida, building codes require the starter course of shingles to be glued down to the aluminum drip edge with roof cement. The bead of roof cement is applied 4 inches wide so the cement covers the drip edge and runs onto the underneath membrane which is usually a
peel-n-stick designed product. Never attempt to pry up that starter course of shingles to slide leaf guards under the shingles which would cause major damage to the shingles.
Really helpful, thanks. You mentioned other makers of micro-mesh, & I'm curious if you have experience with Gutter Guards America. A mailing from them is what got me into the search that led to your video.
MicroGuard by Englert- pretty good product in great price
I use the Gutterglove stainless steel micro mesh guards. Cost about $12 per 4’ piece. They’re awesome!
This is a really helpful video. A couple of questions
On the micro mesh, how does it work with standing seam metal roofs?
With most of the systems that attach to the facia, how do you remove it easily to clean the gutter when its needed?
I think you explained it very well. I have ordered some of the mesh type filters and will install myself.
How did it go?
@@jaydog7024 Not sure the name but it is very much like Leaf Guard. Cost me $450 and very easy to install. Works great.
A relative has the Leaf Guard. It is at least 10 years old, likely more. The gutters sagged and the birds and the bees have found it a most suitable place for a home. I will either install the micro-mess myself, or find a reputable gutter company. Thanks. I give your link a try.
Great explanation!! I so appreciate the tech info. I used one of the white plastic shields on a previous house. It actually did pretty well, though a wind storm did dame a few pieces. Ah well, it was Texas. The killer now is that I have a severe drop in the back yard, so I need a very tall ladder to do this. Or, get a contractor. Thanks again. Dan
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My gutter guy is the ideal gutter guy. Very professional and very informed. I loved micro mesh up until a few months ago when he told me that when pollen gets on them and water hits them, it turns into a clay that clogs up the micro mesh. He said it takes 1-3 years, but i haven’t personally seen it myself. Maybe I’ll go inspect the homes I installed it on years back and see how they’re doing.
good idea, let us know how it goes
This is good information, I need to install gutters on my house with protection from all the pine needles that fall on my house. I was looking at one gutter guard or leaf blaster pro, looks like leaf solutions will another point to consider.
As a contractor I have replaced 5 house loads of gutter because of the mesh. the material that settles on the mesh breaks down and forms a fine silt in the gutter. The fine silt builds up to the point where the gutter capacity is greatly reduced and eventually the gutter rots out. The mesh should also be placed away from internal gutter corners as the water rushes down the valley and straight over the gutter mesh onto the ground.
I have two types of micro mesh on two building and no water runs over the inside gutter corners on either of the two brands.
A customer of mine has this issue as well. The fine mesh has become one clogged mat. The water now runs over the screen mesh instead of going down into the gutter. Not all places, but in valley areas and areas where a pine tree and oak tree pelt her roof.
Thank you for showing us all on RUclips what is best for sure. I will be using this stuff. Good day too.
Thank you! You too!
I've been installing gutters and siding for 3 years. And when it comes to gutter guards I would recommend a mesh product for homes that either have a couple trees or the roof is not to steep. If you, the home owner have a ridiculous amount of trees, get them trimmed or cut, and if you're roof is to steep, just hire someone to clean them out, and go with option 1 of this video
Trimming back our trees, defeats the purpose of buying this property 20-some years ago...
As a gutter cleaner, I agree the mesh product is very good, but with trees and steep pitched roofs, it also is not perfect. I have a customer whose neighbor has some fairly leafy trees and pine trees that are not in harmony with her mesh gutter guards. Secondly, the mesh is now clogged with dirt and debris such that on a heavy rainfall the water just runs over the top. Terrible, not just a little.
I have tried several different gutter guards many of which you gave examples, Leaf Solutions appears to be my best bet. My neighbor used Leafguard but they are way to pricey for what you get.
I recently have installed a micro mesh gutter, called Gutter guard sold at Home Depot. It is a stainless steel micro mesh ,4 ft lengths .I am replacing old vinyl mesh style gutter screen 3ft sections, which are showing their age due to sun damage and glued on plastic screens are peeling off. I have large pin oak trees in my yard over 50 ft. Which constantly drop leafs and twigs on my roof and gutters after high winds. But I am extremely impressed with the new Gutter guards on their strength, durability, effectiveness, ease of installation and cost. I did watch your videos as research for types of gutter guards and their effectiveness, nice job, keep up the good work. I do have a 3 story house with over 180 ft of gutter length on entire home and garage. But these Gutter guards are screwed down to the gutter lip on my house vs screwed to fascia and gutter lip. But they can be screwed to fascia if needed. But I’m hoping these will last a very long time and not breaking down due to sun damage and high winds.
I’m going to look into these. It’s insane what “professional” gutter people want for their products. I like the 4’ lengths you mention. I had some vinyl covers on my old house but they were only about 2’ long. But even those I had to remove usually once or twice a year because the maple tree “helicopters” would land and get stuck in the mesh openings then rot and clog the gutters.
I’m a gutter installer. Been doing it for about 2 hours. Lol. Man, you did pull ups on your gutters?!! That’s insane. I am replacing my gutters, and will be using some kind of guard. I clean my gutters about six times a year. Your video is helpful.
"Man, you did pull ups on your gutters?!!" I was thinking the exact same thing...LOL (great 2 part video)
reggaeone, man. I put mine up, and I’m sooooo tempted to try some pull ups off them. But I’m sure those bad boys will immediately fall.
Aluminum perforated is said to be the best for almost any situation. And those corner pieces seem legit and sexy. Good luck
took galvanized lath 96x26 cut into 4inch strips fasten with tie wire do whole house six bucks money left for brewskis cheers
The mesh must be the best. I have a gutter product that came in sections similar to Leaf Guard and I'm just sick of it. I live in an area of Idaho that just swarms with wasps who like to build nests in the gutter then after season when the rain comes the big nests clog the downspouts. I would think the mesh type is the way to go. I will switch before next season for sure.
Thank you veru much.
Apparently the micro mesh products don’t work in cold climates where there is snow or freezing temps. That should be mentioned. A lot of other product reviewers in cold climates are suggesting the larger hole mesh covers.
you answered all of my questions, thank you for a great simple video. : )
Glad you found it helpful!
You had me at Worst Product Ever! I put those in my gutters about 5 years ago, cleaned them twice, but after seeing your review I'm tossing them for good! We have been getting so much rain here in Wilmington, NC they are starting to grow into the house! Came across your video and decided to follow your advice. Just ordered the Micro GutterGloves from Home Depot. I hope this is the last time I"m up on the ladder messing around with these gutters! Thanks for doing this video!
So how did the gutter guards you got work for you?
@@TrussttN01 so far so good! The only problem is we live in a HOA sharing a roof and gutters and I’m the only one taking care of my gutters, so debris is still coming from the neighbors.
Thank you very much for the explanation l rally apresied your help my brother want to install the gutter but hi don't know how
I have Guard Guard on a house with a steep roof. It works very well and I have not had to clean out my gutters at all since I had it installed years ago. I also have LeafGuard on a smaller house next to the one that I have Gutter Guard on. It does not work as well because leaves and debris build up on it.
I'm curious if you ever called Leaf Guard to come clean them out as they promise. DId they follow up and clean them?
I have those valley dams mounted on gutters and with our trees they are always garbage pits. Nice idea on removing and putting in that extended micro mesh fittings.
Great video. The problem is, you can't buy the product unless you are a licensed contractor. No DIY.
Every one worries about the leaves but rarely ever consider the seeds that the trees produce.
Home Depot product has worked for me.... I only have Silver Maple seeds that stick up there for a bit but squirrels take care of them...
Current leaffilter installer its a great product but I to hate the sales process. Looking for a new product to install on my own
I have been a full time gutter company for 10 years and do all of the work myself. My experience is the first black type with the black holes does not work. I installed some on a neighbors house 10 years ago. After 5 years they were full and I saw a garden every day in their gutters as I drove home. I just installed a micro mesh system 2 years ago on their house. I have been putting up micro mesh for years and have found they are the best. I like the Costco ones or the plain gutter glove micro mesh.
Just went outside to clean out a bunch of crap, bought the house last year and it has those first black mesh ones, garbage.
Thank you Sir!
Great video. Any suggestions for large wood gutters.
What is considered too steep? Mine is 8:12, and I wonder if the micro mesh products would be effective. Thanks.
Have you ever used EASY ON GUTTER GUARDS? I like those Leaf Solutions covers you demonstrated, but already had purchased easy on from Costco on sale. I think they’ll be fine?
how does the leaf solutions do with pine needles? I herd that with other mesh systems the neddles get stuck straight up then causing other things to get stuck in front of it causing a clog.
I have same question. Please let us know
Flexxpoint gutter guards seams to work pretty well of course you will still need to clean gutter every 3-5 years instead of 2-3 times a year.
Flexxjunk is what it should be called!
Thank you for your video it's very informative.
The problem with all these (which I have tried), is in heavy rain, the water glides right across the filter and over the edge. It forms surface tension.
I wonder if there would be a way to mix the micro mesh inside miters and LeafGuard. The biggest problem I run into with LG is the miters overflowing. Otherwise, I have a hard time running into an unhappy LG customer, as far as the product is concerned...
🍃 Leaf filter, good enough to mention but to expensive 🤑
Mine has just been installed and it looks like it will do the job nicely. The Leaf Filter price started out at $9000, then $6500, then $2550. I'm in a wildfire zone in NorCal and $2550 is cheap to prevent blowing burning embers from setting dry leaves in the gutters on fire. I blew the gutters out 2 weeks ago with an Echo 770 backpack blower and after the winds the other day they got half full of leaves and pine needles. I blew them out before the installers got here. Cost me $14.10 per foot installed.
Excellent informative video. Any ballpark estimates on cost for foot? Understand the cost varies in different locations and sf requirements needed.
In spite of the hype, all gutter filtration systems require at least some maintenance, some get seriously clogged and require a lot due to local climate, foliage, and other conditions. The buildup of organic material on exterior surfaces is just the way it goes...
the only maintenance required with Waterloov is a broom brush off and that's only in the midwest where oak leaves and pitch sticks to the top of the cover. In my territory we have cedar trees which shed all year. I've never been back to clean a gutter or honor my warranty on any of the jobs I've ever done. That would be at least 100,000 in the 22 years I've done this.
^This. I think people want a set it and forget it solution and that just doesn't exist. I installed the plastic micro-mesh style and I've found a long handled brush, some water and a little bit of dish soap is all you need. Twice a year wipe them down and rinse them off and it clears all the clog caused by single debris and pollen and it only takes an hour.
@@heattrace7607 Sounds like you've done on average more than 12 jobs per day, even on weekends, for the last 22 years. Really?
@@huttarl 100,000 just a figure of speech, not a mathematical number . . .
@@igorkgb Trump speak, eh? Words & numbers have quite specific meanings friend, at least in the real world.
The roofer who installed my new Atlas Roof told me my gutter guards are in perfect shape...they are 18 years old...
The problem with Leaf Filter, The salesmen are giving over $5000 estimates....
Leaf Solutions sounds great. Problem is they are terrible at customer service.
Still have to get up on a ladder...or pay someone to do it.
-holes too big? ..shingle debris and sediment settle in your gutter.
-holes too small? (screens)...stuff settles and eventually you have water running off them.
Thank you so much!
Thank you again!.
They all suck. Debris collects on top of the screens and just creates a stoppage. Sheeting action gutters just causes water to splash over the top. Best I’ve found are just proper half-round gutters with sufficiently large down spouts. The debris washes down the spout that way, and while they still require cleaning occasionally, it’s not nearly as often as cheap square shaped gutters.
Gutter professional here. Gutters aren't square shaped except in commercial applications. Half round is fine and nice looking, but not as effective as a K style gutter of the same width. A k style of the same width holds more water and is less likely to have the water run over in valleys. Also 98% of residential gutter applications are 5" and 6" K Style gutters. Half round is only really used on really upscale residential, historical restoration, and some commercial applications. As far as protection goes. Nothing is perfect. There is no system that you won't have to clean occasionally. Especially in valleys. But a Micromesh system is the best.
Mesh/Screens do not work here in the Pacific NW. In the wet winters, algae and moss clog the screens. In the Spring, it's Douglas fir pollen. Calling the company who sold and installed them (Leaf Filter), they say they (deceptively) guarantee the gutters not clogging, not the screens (make "sense". If the screens don't pass thru water, the gutters can't clog!) So I am still up on a ladder, with a power washer, trying to blast the mesh open twice a year.
Great Video, whats your view on the under shingle vs the facia mount.?
Only thing about micro mesh is any liquid that has the ability to dry and harden will slowly overtime clog the micro mesh. After that happens, you are done for. There is no cleaning the organic concrete that has dried inside the pores of the micro mesh.
Hi can you list product information or a link of the first one you spoke about. I think it’s the micro mesh. Can you add a link to the actual one that can be purchased from Homedepot? Thank you
Very helpful! Thank you.
You are very welcome
That is helpful. Thank you for being showing me the best thing
Thanks for honest and knowledgeable analysis! Very helpful, Now I can make a smart choice.
GeckoGutter Guards? What do you do with the build up on top of mesh? Do you install in Chicago area?
My problem is not leaves but Douglas Fir needles. How to keep them out and not clog up the system.
The chainsaw system, yuk yuk.
You over looked the best one
Raindrop Gutter Guards
Your mesh are good
but debrie will sit on top
under the worst conditions
Rgg is the best
With good piitches, raindrop wide mouth
Over size down spouts
It's the least likely system to fail
It's hail resistant and it runs better with heat lines too
it's slippery slick leave falll right off.
The micro channels allow micro debrie to go in and filter out
If the installer does a good job installing
The gutters
With raindrop gutter guards
There is nothing better
I have install gutters for 20 years
Last seven years I just been cleaning
Gutters
Raindrop gutter guard is superior and 2nd
to none
I would bet my life on it
Need ideas for super gutters please
Hi do you see any issues with installing Leaf Solutions gutter guards under the shingles? I just had a new roof installed and want to make sure I don't incur any problems. Thanks
Leaf Guard quoted $25,000 to replace 200 ft of gutters. Also the sales guy refused to take any Covid precautions. I told him no.
Wow. Just wow
@@RoofingInsights3.0 wow thats $125ft not including anyhing else
So what's best for mainly pine needles which is all we have here?
How is Micromesh with pine needles? That’s the bulk of the debris on our roof.
The problem with leaf guard type products is that birds and bees love to nest in these things. Don’t bother.
Hello, we just signed on with Done Right Construction in Shirley to install the leaf guard filter. Cost for 1700 soft was 2800.00. Does that seem reasonable. Are these good contractors?
Good explanation. Enjoy your videos
I hope you could make a video about roofers that replace old roofs and put nails every foot of the gutters to hold them up while removing old drip edge and then covering up the nails with new drip edge. Just for me as a gutter installer to have to almost destroy the new drip edge trying to remove the hidden nails to replace the gutters that most roofers dont know about keeping the gutter pitched and wedged correctly to keep the bottom parallel with the ground/90* from the wall.... (roofers and gutter guys should be friends not enemies) we could help each other make more money 💵 💵 💵
In my town is educated the roofers early on to run the shingles past the drip edge 3/4 of an inch.I was met with protest but eventually they came around when I told them what if people don't put gutters on that go behind the drip edge.? The water's running down the fascia and rotting it. They will come around and the roofers will be your friends. Understand they are reluctant to admit they've been doing it wrong. I would like to talk to you about something else if you can give me a call please 208-610-3300
Your insights are very good and you showed me a product I was unaware of, the 90 degree piece. I've had problems with my gutter cover ever since the roof was replaced due to hail damage. The hail destroyed the gutter cover (Gutter Helmet) but left the gutter intact. Roofing company did not take care in how they delivered new roofing materials to the roof, just standard ladders leaning against the gutters. I believe they have caused the problem I have in one area where the water always overflows up to five feet from the 90 degree corner. The overflow is on the side of a steep and long roof line as well. I've measured the gutter and see where it hangs down and is not level. I've used plastic wedges to help with the balancing but it's still not the answer. The roofer has installed deflectors in the area affected but it doesn't help during heavy rain. I'm going to buy the 90 degree corne piece you recommended and see if that'll do the trick.
Only problem now is getting someone from Leaf Solutions to let me know where I can purchase the miters. I called their home office and left a message yesterday but no one has returned my call. Their "contact us" portion of their website doesn't work properly, so I'm not sure how to reach them. Their customer service ratings were a constant 1 of 5 as well, looks like a good product with no sales & support??? Ideas???
@@rgwhitesr almost all of our contractors will install leaf solutions: roofinginsights.com/directory
Ultimate Gutter Guard by Southern estimated almost 20,000 my whole house and the main gutter they said was terrible was from Leaf Guard style... SMDH