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If sasuke goes all out and uses the hax he has but never used like all rennegan abilities then izanagi and izanami than coping aizen’s moves by sharingan than I don’t think aizen wins…it won’t matter if aizen has more strength, speed or intelligence if he gets caught in izanagi or gets his soul sealed by the king of hell which can be summoned by sasuke and sasuke can just absorb aizen’s soul upon touch…and if sasuke uses planetary devastation on aizen everything from that planet will get thrown towards aizen…
Regarding Senjumaru, what makes that feat impressive isn't that she shook basically the entire cosmology but she did it with a slight release of her power
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 it's crazy because that's just like a passive eminence of reiatsu like imagine if she really used all her power without limiting it to around herself
@@TheDockent-u3fThat was a slight use of her power too. If she was bloodlusted and keeping her reiatsu closed up, she would've probably one shotted all of them.
One thing that people don't talk enough about is Aizen's actual arsenal. Im not talking kyoka suigetsu or hado 90, i mean the other 200 (im not being hyperbolic here) kido spells that are possibly at his disposal. Kido spells that are also pretty underrated. Rikujōkōrō completely stops a person from moving any part of their body with the point of a finger. Inemuri which can legit just auto KO a person by holding their hand in front of their face. And a whole bunch of other just straight auto KO or restriction bakudo spells. As we all know he's very proficient in the hado series, capable of going to the highest possible level. Im not saying he can use the unranked Kido but he definitelly should be able to utilize the majority of if not all of the ranked Kido spells due to him being at the very least on par with Kitsuke when it comes to being a Kido master. which like i said, there are over 200 of. On top of that it is very possible, no just straight up confirmed that Aizen can utilize hollow abilities meaning he could potentially use things like Hierro which would buff his already absurd defense massively or fire out balas if he wanted to. His monster form already showcased him using hollow like abilities so something like this isn't out of the question.
the kido are divided into 100 bakudo (defensive) and 100 hado (offensive) all spiritual techniques, that is, they interact with the soul, I don't understand how people compare these verses if Bleach is in a higher rank than Naruto.
@@SonGohanBeastsolosurfavversebro thinks this shit is a gang war or something. It’s not that deep. You can think naruto is a better quality series than bleach( ☠️) but the characters are stronger that’s the facts
@@TocattaTotentanzMacabre bro is indeed not right😭 Mid to high dif for Aizen only because of his hax, they both scale similarly in ap and speed, if not Sasuke being much faster
The main problem is that Aizen has adaptive evolution alongside immortality and is extremely battle smart and has way more battle experience. Let alone the fact that the Naruto verse has very iffy scaling considering people can’t even agree on the same page for how big attacks are comparative to the Naruto verse itself.
@@jamevolve8380 ……so if that’s the case why does Sasuke resort to jumping people in a majority of his fights if he has access to immortality? Aizen is just straight up immortal and doesn’t care about getting jumped. He actually encourages it, they are not the same.
@@jamevolve8380he doesn't. Give the name of the chapter cause I for sure don't remember that Furthermore the actual problem is Aizen's evolution which carried him from being fodder to Ichigo to being above him
@@bamTubeDude Are you stupid? Bleach verse has iffy scaling and on top of that comparing the Naruto verses attacks with Bleach, Naruto's verse being clearly stronger. Sasuke can easily seal him with sealing jutsu.
@@waynegafford1010 I think he might be able to out strategize Aizen in the heat of battle so if was given some kind of hax with bankai and his other naruto hax & jutsu he would stand a better chance of winning 🤷🏿♂️
You guys be calling anything hyperbole, The cleaner is actually transcendent, the fact that it can freely move through time is proof of that, a feat to show that he surpassed reason isn't hyperbole
@@choppyhakusho absolutely not Sasuke loses in literally everything and has zero counters for Aizen's hax lmfao Aizen actually blinks him out of existence
Aizen: str: multiversal to 6d spd: quadrillion times ftl/infinite hax: too many Sasuke: strength: planetary to solar system speed: ftl+ hax: can't compare to Aizen
@@mayymayl naruto world is bigger because momoshiki has a parallel universe with like expanding red shift nebulae and his universe is new so narutos universe being the main universe expands and is much larger than bleach and even has our solar system and planets.
@@Exquizitscanswhat are you talking about the Bleach verse is bigger then Naruto’s. It’s not limited to the 3 main worlds(and just because they call them worlds that doesn’t make them planet size and that’s it) they are all each their own universes and you also got the infinite Dangai, Hell, and all the other pocket dimensions.
I tend to agree with the higher interpretations for Bleach and Naruto. I see Bleach as Low Multiversal and Naruto as Uni+ Low Multi for Bleach since the literal plot of the TYBW was Yhwach destroying 1.) The Living World (Universal) 2.) Soul Society (Universal) 3.) Hueco Mundo (Universal to Infinite 3-D) 4.) The Kyogoku/Valley of Screams (Infinite 3-D as they can hold and infinite amount of souls) 5.) The Dangai (A Hyperspace that governs and separates time between the whats implied to be all the realms but confirmed to be the SS and Living World, making destroying this construct a low 2-C feat) 6.) The Garganta which in CFYOW was stated to be infinite in size compared to the rest of the Bleach cosmology, which would mean infinitely larger than the Dangai. Highball argument can be made that it’s a dimension above the Dangai making it 5-D or Low Complex Multi but I’m not sure the validity of that argument) In the manga it was stated rhag it was Soul King Yhwach’s raw power that was able to create and destroy these realms, and in the novel, it was stated that the reason why the realms didn’t collapse after Yhwach died and why Ichigo wasn’t made the current Soul King was because Ichibei and or Squad 0 took Yhwach’s corpse after Ichigo killed him and sealed it, with the residual energy leaking from his dead body being sufficient enough to keep the Bleach cosmology from collapsing Aizen scales above this as Yhwach actually had to output force into his attacks to damage Aizen and wasn’t negged by his passive reiatsu As for Naruto, they scale to Uni+ if we take Kaguya’s ETSO to a generous interpretation, and then by the time of Isshiki and the current manga, they don’t have any statements or scaling for closing the beyond infinite gap between Uni+ and Low Multi
Bro when they say the bleach universe or when the characters say it they mean the 3 world's operating as one not the 3 world's individually universes. And when ever I ask where it says that they are universal in scale I get the most faulty and backwash info ever.
@@marceljohnson2215 death battle are not great powerscalers bro. Sephiroth has feats putting him to Multiversal especially with him rewriting the story in FF7Remake. Death Battle had him winning against Vergil which he wouldnt as Vergil and Dante scale casually to High Outerversal. But Sephiroth is still enough to delete Bleach.
To be honest I really don’t mind who wins between these two because Sasuke is in my Top 10 Favorite Characters but personally Aizen is my Favorite Character IN ALL OF FICTION.
Death battle rode Madara d too hard 😂. He was never in aizens league. Aizen probably wouldn’t have to go past base/ captain aizen to clap anyone in Naruto verse considering that it’s stated that he in base could clap all but 2 of the sternritter but even in base it’s a a close fight with those 2 and highly subjective to who does what first
@@Lumaz001 Nah you’re just ignorant and delusional, I already watched that video it’s just bleach bias. Naruto is consistently way higher than bleach. Lmao you’re either a troll or clown pick one. Bleach is a fodderverse.
Aizen illusion work on people stronger than him where as genjutsu cannot if the opponent is stronger than u, probably same logic as dragon ball. Aizen has regen where as sasuke does not.
@@Exquizitscans so why don't Sasuke ever use genjutsu on Naruto in the final battle or why don't he ever use on Madara or Obito in in the war, what do u have to say about that ??? Please don't use the logic that the beast inside them can wake them up from genjutsu cuz Obito genjutsu was not broken at all by tail beast mizukage. Where as aizen illusion work on Yamamoto and yuha even though he stated and we can see and know that he is weaker than both of them
@@arabbitwhocanuseinternet9657 as for that tailed beast they weren't joined so 3 tails never helped him. Also naruto would see it coming as you can sense genjutsu chakars diffrent from normal chakara.
@@Chillchildren999 sasuke put bee in genjutsu but 8tails broke it because their friends also naruro has kuruma now so genjutsu want work and madara did it with ease and so did sasuke stop capping
Dude aizen solos the verse i dont get why do people even still debate this ? Bleachverse is leagues above naruto and one peice we knew this back in 2007
Tite kubo has publicly stated that the anime and any of its new scenes should and would be viewed as the new Canon. However, thats not to downgrade this video in any way. Would be a super cool fight, and love the take on it. Would be super crazy to see how aizens hac and sasukes, respectively, would clash with each other.
23:57 its called fiction u cant take something that fiction seriously with real life. I would stick that Muken is infinite in size. Unohana a shinigami with 1000+ year old herself comfirm it and she wouldn't lie.
All I’m saying is that if the Primordial Universe was infinite in size then by separating it into three realms by definition they’d all have to be infinite as well. Since even a part of infinite would also be infinite, however if the primordial universe was finite then at most like Tempest said they’re scaling to Multi Galaxy level except for prime Yhwach who arguably has Universal power based on him being stated to threaten the stability of all the worlds, however if Sealed Aizen can damage him that might be cap
Garganta is a endless black void that houses realms ( hell, ss , wotl, hm) and world of the living is based on our own universe and ss mirrors wotl ( this alone is low balled uni) along with infinite pocket dimensions present inside garganta , muken is infinite 🤷 so there's no reason to doubt yhwach being uni infact he scales higher.
Literally sasuke looks at aizen in his general direction while his kyoka suigetsu is activated, he basically got into perfect hypnosis without even realizing it from the start of the fight.
I can half see KS being a non issue as multiple times it is stated the sharingan and it’s evolutions provide resistance to outright immunity to illusions/Genjutsu. But aizen still wins low-no diff.
@@ethan1441Technically it's hypnosis that changes the viewers perception to what Aizen wants it to be too. Illusions made by chakra feels just different in principle to that. With many completely taking you out of reality, with Aizens being still grounded in reality that you don't either notice anything is up.
@@choppyhakushoHow? He’s infinitely slower than aizen, less strength, less iq, less hax, he has nothing to fight aizen with. The only thing he has is his dojutsu negating his illusions but even then aizen still just destroys anything sasuke try’s.
Are my skills improving. Because you’ve watched other videos that arent related to bleach beating naruto or vice versa and came to that conclusion , or are they improving because the character you wanted to win, won?
@@Tempest1018In your earlier videos you tend to only highball and take some statements literal without going into the different other metas of power and speed. I never really cared about the results, I'm more interested in the fair and consistent opinion of someone's scaling and if it makes sense.
@@darryltorres7302 oh big dubs i was afraid you only liked the videos due to the winner. Im glad you’ve been here to grow with me like honestly i appreciate it and it means a lot. Please give me criticism if needed
@@Tempest1018 I think the same way im not a scaler myself but i noticed how much more in depth you've gotten and explaining why one wins over the other yea my favorites don't always win but if it makes sense then thats just it
Good video. There's a couple of points about the Muken that further support it being infinite in size that I think are worth pointing out: 1. The "almost" infinite statement is a mistranslation, and other translations of the same scene simply say "infinite", with the word "almost" (or similar terms) being nowhere to be found. 2. We know that Ichibei has the ability to see the true nature or the true "names" of all things, and we also know that he named all things in soul society, which should include Muken. So, as Muken means infinite or endless or something similar, and Ichibei knows its true identity/name, and Ichibei is the one who gave it its name, it would then follow that Muken is just as infinite as its name would imply, which is exactly what Unohana says in the scan you used in the video: "Muken, as its name suggests, is completely closed off, and almost infinitely large.", though the "almost" part is a mistranslation as I've pointed out in the first point. That being said, we do still have the databook statement you pointed out of Muken simply deluding you into thinking it's infinite, rather than actually being infinite, so I recognize there's room for interpretation here.
Ichigo, and Aizen does scale to the likes of Yhwach, because of simple rule in Bleach verse, that u NEED to scale to someone to harm them/use ur abilities to them.
The thing about this is that even if you take away the Hogyoku away, immortality away, Kyoka sugetsu away, and instant teleportation away. Aizen still wins insanely easily. Its not really a fair match up whatsoever, Aizen is ridiculously faster and stronger than sasuke. But anyways, how did you find such high quality of Bleach? What website or streaming site did you find that from?
@@SoloShyguyI highly doubt kido would actually effect sasuke since he has the rinnegan. Sasuke can absorb them since spiritual energy is technically yin chakra.
@@SaberKT14 and when did we ever see sasuke absorb anything after his fight with naruto 😂 and even if he does aizen kido gonna be too much 2 absorb like aizen could literally kill you just be flexing his spritral pressure the whole only people to have that type ft is kagyua and momshiki definitely not no sasuke
To me aizem wins like you said, BUT I wanna say that throught time it has become "common knowledge" that bleach destroys naruto in power scaling, and it makes it sound like there isnt even a possible debate. So yeah ty for talking about this topic because people theese days debate over EVERYTHING and hearing that something like this "isnt even a debate", coming from people that a lot of times didnt even watch bleach feels really wrong to me.
No Sasuke destroys Aizen, it's common knowledge Naruto violates Bleach in scaling. Idiots like you who either downplay and call everything in Naruto hyperbole or didn't watch it at all is wrong and sad.
galaxy multi galaxy ?? 14:47 That's universal+ at the very least also aizen is 4D the fact that he transcended reason and erased a being that coverns time and space in a hyperspace means he did and was in the data books it was explained as such
@@Tempest1018 Your so biased. It's hyperbole when it's Naruto but when it's Bleach it's not right? Overrated ass anime. Multiple fanboys like you massively jack off Aizen and Bleach in general to multiversal but when it's Naruto with clear uni+ to low multi scaling still gets downplayed to solar? Lmao this is sad. It's bias who ever is more lovable or destructive or flashy or colder to you is the winner rather than logic. Barely dived into Sasuke's scaling while majority of the video is basically a rant on why you love Aizen and why he should win rather than using common sense. Even with Sasuke's clear scaling and Kaguya's dimensions each being universal still gets downplayed to solar? Even with Momoshiki's universal sized dimension, tis is sad. How many times does a Naruto character have to commit giant feats like that to install your head that their on that level and higher. Low ball, Mid ball and High balled, Sasuke still claps. Doesn't matter who you think is colder or better written or whatever. Sasuke murders in a fight. Same crap with Kaguya vs Yhwach. The Naruto downplay and the Bleach riding is insane. Stick to Marvel vs DC scaling. Though you got errors in that but far less. Thor vs Superman vid was solid until the end when you said CAS can beat CK Thor which is false also if Rune King Thor was brought into that for the strongest versions battle then no doubt Thor negs. But CK can handle as it is already but at least you know Base Thor violates Base Supes. Anime scaling is not for you. Do comics.
As a naruto fan, before even clicking on the video ik aizen wins, im just glad we are seeing ppl put some respect on naruto and sasukes name, getting my guys to solar system to galaxy level
Where would you scale Ichigo, aizen, and Yuha with cfyow, light novel, and manga statements to back up your scaling. But regardless where would you scale them and how?
“Ichigo doesn’t scale to yhwach” brother what in shikai he was tanking yhwach’s darkness and cutting through it and in shikai he cut deep into yhwach and matched him in swordplay and yhwach taking precautions would obviously mean that he could lose if he fought a hos bankai I Ichigo not to mention yhwach being one tapped two times by Ichigo in bankai
This video is clickbait simply by existing. The only reason to watch it is to make sure you're not uploading a stupid video. Aizen wins 101 out of 100 times. There's no point in making a video out of it.
All i want say eos Aizen (tybw) Aizen is nerf with the rope on his body. And still can go toe to toe with Yhwach + Soul king. Sasuke aint do nothing to unsealed Aizen not even if Aizen got sealed.
Also Yhwach being effected by Kyouka Suigetsu before re-obtaining The Allmighty has nothing to do with his inability to break the effects until he fists Aizen.
I really like the fact that you acknowledged the different interpretations of each character and at least addressed what you agreed/disagreed with. There was literally no bias. A lot of people tend to only address one meta they agree with like “Universal Bleach” and “Planet Level Naruto” and call it a day. You even addressed some faulty arguments HONESTLY like “Kaguya’s mistranslation” and “Muken is infinite.” Great video man.
No... He was definitely biased towards Sasuke and even with clear universal+ to low multi scaling he downscales Sasuke to multi solar and discredits him but accepts majority of Aizen's feats and statements? So it's hyperbole with Naruto but not for Bleach and on top of that massively jacked off Aizen to multi galaxy. Lmao. Sasuke spits on him. It's bias, who ever is flashier or more destructive or colder to a fanboy like him he's obviously going to pick rather than use logic. The amount of time he was yapping about Sasuke was hilarious same with the Kaguya vs Yhwach video. He's half pie. Sometimes he's somewhat relevant and logical then other times biased and can hear it in his voice and arguments. Sasuke murderstomps Aizen.
@@choppyhakusho No he was pretty fair. 11:29 Debunking potential Bleach wank. He accepted every statement for both characters, but he used the REASONABLE interpretations for what they mean.
This was a great video. A lot of charitable interpretation for both series. I believe Sasuke would win. A lot of the abilities that he has access to that could potentially give him a win condition weren't really mentioned in this video. All in all this was very well made.
Bro Aizen is busted! He literally can’t die from being erased, The fact he could control and SOUL KING ALL MIGHTY BUFFED YHWACH senses of his future that’s a crazy feat to think about 2 bro he literally was the last line of defense for soul society and he did a better job than anyone in the series ong 😂
I would like to hear your reasons. I personally think aizen wins due to his hundreds of years worth of experience and the bullshit he can pull. But Im intrested in your thoughts.
@@xvittsl5383anything else is pure cope from narutards aizen literally cannot die cuh he was literally imprisoned and ywach said he shouldn’t bother trying to kill him. Then he came back from complete erasure. Sasuke gets bitched by a knife thu the eye
5:38. It's a mistranslation. The kanji used is "異界" which means another world or next world NOT a parallel universe. World ≠ Universe. 6:03 Kaguya's dimensions are not "large solar system" in size. In comparison to our own solar system (which is 30 trillion km | 18.6 trillion miles and is considered large), Kaguya's dimensions are barely around 150 million km or 93 million miles in size. Some can argue that this cant be classified as Solar Level, but rather as Large star. 6:05 the statements that Kaguya creates her dimension are mistranslation. Kanji used is "Tsugu (つ-ぐ)" and "Kukan(空間)" which translates to "Gathering and assembly of space" which imply Kaguya assembled these dimensions rather than creating them. We've never even received a time frame of this so called creation feat. It could've taken decades, centuries, who knows? The context behind Kaguya's ability is not creating any dimensions because there is no actual proof for that. It's in context to her linking her dimensions with her teleportation ability. 6:24 It's a pocket dimension. Not an actual parallel universe. "それは、彼の構築した異世界の外にまで漏れ出しつつある" - Statement used, which translates to: He was even draining chakra leaking outside the different world he"d constructed.". Different World ≠ Parallel Universe, Momoshiki is barely Large Star to potentially Solar (He scales above Kaguya). Since it's a pocket dimension, Momoshiki doesn't scale to Galaxy level as you implied. 7:34 No. Naruto and Sasuke don't pass Star to Solar System level. Anything above is a wank. 22:09 Muken is stated many times to be infinite. Unohana states that "Muken is completely closed off and infinitely large". Only in the English translations and English Dub, is said that Muken is "Immesurably vast" or "Almost infinite". Those are mistranslations. The manga also states that it stretches to infinity meaning that it expands to infinity. 22:15 Dangai is a hyperspace, confirmed in the light novel: "as such, to prevent these worlds - that is the World of the living as well as Soul Society - from ever contacting one another, a boundary-like hyperspace known as the "Disconnection boundary(Dangai)" must remain pesent among these structures." "Dangai is a disconnected space surrounded by a torrent of layers and layers of time." - Space-time is 4D as it contains a 3D space along with an extra temporal dimension making it 4D. Since the Dangai is Already 4D due to it being a hyperspace and being stated to be a spacetime and having multiple layers of time, the dangai would be a 5D construct (5D with some wank of course.) Also, Dangai further proves that Bleach Cosmology is Low Mutliverse to Multiverse. 24:16 - 25:12 Space-times do not actually give Kaguya 4D AP. Here's why. Space-times have three actual cardinal space axes with an extra temporal one. Three cardinal space axes which is 3D with an extra temporal dimension, not with another cardinal space axis. Four axes would be a hyperspace. Kaguya needs to destroy a three dimensional zone of space on a universal scale. Her dimensions are technically 4D, but also aren't. Kaguya's Dimensions are actually 3D with an extra temporal dimension and it's size is about Large Star to Solar System. Extra scaling: Yhwach was going to destroy the main three realms (All Universal+ in sizes, I could just explain the cosmology here, but the comment would be too long. If you want me to explain the cosmology then feel free to ask.), destroy Dangai, and make Garganta collapse, which is a 5D construct, granting Yhwach Low Multi AP and since Ichigo managed to cut and kill Yhwach twice, then he should be relative. Ichigo = Universal+ to Low Multi. P.S: This comment took way too long to write D:
@@mitzoon. no i did read it. I think you misrepresented EVERYTHING i said. Because I didn’t call momoshiki’s dimension a parallel universe😭 thats why i said join the discord so we can talk there cause i hate comment debating
@@Jamal-g8jHow so? Sasuke doesn't have any wincons 1. He has no counter to the Immortality granted by the Hogyoku. 2. His Genjutsu is an inferior Kyoka Suigetsu, and he has no resistances to Kyoka Suigetsu either. 3. He gets stat stomped heavily being massively slower and weaker. 4. He gets outskilled to an embarrasing degree as Aizen is on par with people such as Yhwach in skill, the same Yhwach who fought Yamamoto who founded the Soul Society and most Shinigami combat arts, including 8000 sword styles, while believing he had mastered every shinigami art there is to know. 5. Aizen is a far better tactician and will figure out any plan before Sasuke can even think about it. 6. Hogyoku Fate Manipulation allows Aizen access to anything he desires on a multiversal scale. 7. Sasuke has no resistances to cover surviving Soul Crush or Existence Erasure, both of which Aizen PASSIVELY emits.
The Dangai is literally stated to be infinite in size and is never contradicted, UNLIKE the Muken; It's actually confirmed that you could wander the Dangai endlessly and never find an end.
@@Tobey-4671 i sure think so because kyoka suigetsu is enough for 90 percent of the verse and outside of naruto sasuke madara kakashi obito pain momoshiki ishiki and boruto code kawaki and some others with some resistance to kyoka suigetsu that is only if they have some resistance because of the dojutsu they possess if you think that there eyes can help them from resisting his kyoka suigetsu with aizens iq all the characters in naruto universe will attack there allies if aizen controls everyones senses and made them fight each other and fight naruto sasuke and others 99 pwecwnt of the verse is dead already and all that is left is the heavy hitters lemme clear one thing for you others remaining heavy hitters wont corporate with each other because they are enemies especially not the otsusuki members even if they all corporate with aizens experience and and mastery of kido half of them will fall down in mere seconds as aizens spiritual pressure is also too much for them too and all left is naruto sasuke boruto kawaki code and otsusuki's and if aizen goes all out it will be also over is just minutes as aizens scales way above them is speed strength hax and abilities and even in skills aizens swordsmanship is top notch and he has more experience than everyone of the combined aizen is too much for naruto verse no doubt but all these only if they can resist aizens kyoka suigetsu if they dont it is all over the moment everyone looks at him and sorry to inform to aizens spiritual pressure is too much for them 95 percent of them will with that alone and aizens attacks are directly applied to the soul idk if they can even block it riatsu is always superior to chakra and ki
@@Burn_FiElDWe at least know our limits better than Narutards. I swear people actually think LN Momoshiki stands a chance against Cosmic Fear Garou, lol, Monster Garou solos the verse + Shibai + cope.
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 Shibai solos the bleach fodderverse it's not even close LN momo solos OPM verse until Saitama gets a new feat, it stays that way so get tf out.
@@Burn_FiElDmy Ninja, no one in Naruto is getting past Galaxy, let alone planetary. Garou's radiation would kill everyone in the verse and no one has resistence or the AP to kill him, not even Saitama did. Monster Garou is overkill, CFM Garou is just bullying. Shit's like putting Tanjiro against Hajun, Naruto, Boruto, and the verse is getting wiped out no diff at worst, no concept of diff at best. Momo can't even beat Boros lmfao
Slightest use of her true power. Combined with the fact that the seal is for their "true swords," and it's clear she was talking about her bankai. Plus, that's what we're shown
@@gralegambino1433 Dub: "Even the slightest exertion of our FULL powers would cause the heavens and earth of all three worlds to tremble. That is the reason our lives have all been linked to one another for so long. To make sure our true swords would be sealed away." Sub: "Even the slightest use of our powers would cause the heaven and earth of the three worlds to tremble. Because of that, we linked our lives to one another to seal away our TRUE swords."
@@gralegambino1433 True swords mean Bankai, the physical manifestation of a Zanpakuto's true form and power. What Aizen and Ichigo did wasn't any final form. You can't use shikai, the partial release of a Zanpakuto's true form, if you don't have a Zanpakuto. His Zanpakuto crumbled away, remember? How can something that doesn't exist showcase its true form? What Aizen uses isn't shikai, but what is now HIS ability to control the senses. Same with Ichigo. He doesn't become Zangetsu. He becomes one with Getsuga Tenshou, the ability. That's why Zangetsu ceases to exist, and Ichigo holds pure energy when using Mugetsu.
when we are told about the soul society it is always that country in a dome. it's clear that it isn't the realm but the country dome that sits on a planet. we even have multiple soul society like the one in burn the witch.
@@eddieboston6540 The place under the dome is the Seireitei and the area surrounding it are the 76 districts of the Rukongai. 'Soul Society' is generally used to describe the spiritual plane that exists parallel to ours, similar to how the 'World of the Living' is used to describe the material plane. However, just like 'World of the Living' has been used to describe the planet and universe depending on who says it, 'Soul Society' is used to describe the planet or spiritual universe as well. The fact that different people can mean different things when saying them is what causes so much confusion toward scaling. However, since Yamamoto's Bankai is compared to the sun, I'd say the reference to 'Soul Society' being the planet makes most sense. As for the Burn the With stuff, I'm not super versed on it, but I'm pretty sure it's not located in the same spiritual plane as th afterlife, but a dimension created to house the dragons.
"For me personally that's wank" "It's a hyperboll" Hard to accept it right? Ah and next time use the main thing about Hogyoku. It doesn't just grands Aizen immortality. It literally makes his desires happening. Aizen is complete immortal being able to upgrade his power limitless. There is no wank and people realize it. Aizen still low diffies the verse.
Bro, complete is not what he has when we have characters that can delete him from their way better hax. He had high regen due to his forms that time when he lost it it gave him immorality and its giving you what you want is hype and good but it's evolution is ass and takes time.
@@faith4657it's not simple regeneration. He literally evolved beyond death. He transcended the concept. He's not immortal because he regenerates from any wound. He regenerates from any wound because he is immortal. You erase him from existence, and he'll just reform. Regeneration is a common power in Bleach, and it's been shown many times that chopping someone in half the way Ichigo did with Mugetsu would have killed him if it were that simple.
@@corruptangel6793 bro I'm not saying it's simple regen but don't over blow it just cause he says his immortal, he hasbt excepted the concept of death nor has he been erased and there are levels to erasure that are more devastating. Regen may be common in bleach but there is a reason orihimine's powers were so converted despite just being human and doing something the a lot in the verse can do. His immortality is trash compared to people who can basically nullify that it's really not that Impressive.
@@faith4657 Shunsui said if they had the means of killing Aizen, they would have done so. So not even Yamamoto's existance eraser powers could kill him. Again, regeneration doesn't bring back the dead. Only true immortality can do that. Orihime doesn't regenerate things, she rejects phenomena. She isn't healing, she's alrering reality and making it so the phenomena never happened in first place. Hence why she could bring back the dead. The Hogyoku uses the power of God to manifest desires. That is the entire point of the evolutions. The first evolution allowed him to transcend the limits of Soul Reapers and Hollows to obtain a higher plane of existence. Manifesting his desire to become a God. The second evolution was a result of his fear of dying after Gin fataly wounded him, resulting in him evolving beyond death. Becoming truly immortal. Later he evolves beyond the Zanpakuto.
@@faith4657 Aizen scales above Ichibei who practically can kill you at a conceptual manipulation. And even Yhwach couldn't kill him. There is no "existence erasure" out there to kill Aizen by any means. That's why I m saying "he is completely immortal".
@@Chillchildren999 what did you not understand Aizen doing that doesn't make him 4D Shibai is above 4D per chapter 75 lol by not being bound by the concept of space and time, making him 5D or higher Also Shibai isn't the strongest in the verse as there are God's who created worlds, being omnipotent & omniscient scaling above Shibai
@@Chillchildren999Otsutsuki god is isn't 4D he is litteraly beyond than that like 5D or 6D since he's litteraly a being beyond than the soul reaper in Naruto and beyond than madara limbos clones
I think the issue here is eye contact and whether or not it works on a being that isn’t made of Physical Chákrâ though yang release based Shárīngán gènjūtsū on the six paths level (perceiving the six paths which is what the separated realms represent in a more complex way with a bit more western “upper realms, lower realms and mortal realm” set does make stuff a bit more complex in the two stories’ uses of shintobuddhist ideas about reincarnation and the six paths, though I’ll always say Bleach handles the six paths better from a spiritually realistic standpoint (and I mean leaning towards realism not being “more realistic” in general )… But Sásūké should be capable of Seeing Aîzèn but touching and and gènjūtsū would Probably need to be at that six paths level… and I mean what happens if he chákrà sucks with dévà path? Should functionally have some abilities equivalent to shinigami like you could argue about Nágàtō’s use of Mádârà’s Rinnégán… but regardless Kïôkà Suígètsū is probably going to affect him regardless of the Rinnégán in fact it might Only work Because he has a Rinnégán! : D But it’s Almost impossible to win unless Rinnégán gènjūtsū still work despite not having the exact same chákrà system or whatever… man if the 3rd eye was a Rinnégán or Rinnéshárīngán on Aîzèn then there’s no way he wins… so maybe he wins if he can kill before butterflyzen mode? : D still laughing trying to imagine ways where Aîzèn’s arrogance is how he loses underestimating a mortal or whatever… what happens if he uses Àménōtëjíkárà to swap places with him as he does hádō 90 Kūrōhírsūgí?! Or worse the hado 99 five dragon damnation or whatever it is in Japanese ( I can’t be asked to remember and transliterate it properly to be theoretically correct for SpeakFunction if I use alternate viable spellings… But I’d say Sásūké loses More than 8/10 times probably unless Aîzèn’s being a Moron… which only works if Íchígō’s personal headcanon about wishing someone stronger than him existed and this is why he didn’t evolve an additional time or whatever… but he might just be projecting his own sadness or loneliness of becoming the strongest for less than 5 minutes after 2 months in spacetime transcendent training by imagining having a hypnosis ability with That level of power and thinking “well dang Kísūké I can’t imagine anything but loneliness cause I felt it through his sword… how alone blah blah” if ALL that’s accurate then maybe Rinnégán genjutsu is Fun for him if Sásūké does it right THOUGH Sásūké doesn’t know this guy was about to replace God in his story… so… would he be going all out?! He might be screwed trying to chīdôrí him as soon as combat starts… but some win conditions are just gènjūtsū Working before he uses his Perfect Hypnosis… Not a good matchup but better than people would generally assume!
@@imtruIy No character is definitively anywhere sasuke can be "scaled to uni" but aizen can be scaled to complex multi all the way to high hyper High balling them both aizen utterly obliterates low balling them both aizen still one shots so no this isn't a debate or close in any way aizen atomizes
@@Thegreatlordofall the fact that aizen has the Hōgyoku : its true power lies in its ability to sense the hearts of those around it and materialize their deepest desire. If we law ball that statment that's outerversal since if he desired to be above all dimentionality he'll reach that
Aizen solos the naruto verse what make u think sasuke even stand a chance aizen was able to destroy creatures falling from the royal palace that could destroy the soul society with just flexing his energy while still in a chair and not having all the seals broken like are u serious
@@Ghostyboydead ur right😅 tbh I wrote this on a whim, just to show how much more dominant aizen would be. Boruto is obviously going for uni scaling. But it still doesn't change aizen slams shippuden.
@@GhostyboydeadTrue, although Bleach isn't getting weaker by a mile. The Hell Arc is still on the table and when that happens the gap will be even further spread out since Hell in the movie was multiversal and when the Hell Arc happens it most likely will be that too, and possibly might be even larger
Okay, im do some early scale for aizen, hes transcended ichigo's dad easily and only final getsuga ichigo transcends aizen stated by him, Ichigo dad was able to hold off dangai with quite easy which is a infinite size place with a separate spacetime making him 4d, aizen transcrnds him making him 5d Ichigo is stated to transcend aizen making him 6d, tybw arc aizen is stronger then final getsuga ichigo making aizen 6d which is low complex or 5d which is still low complex, aizen has erasure resistance as even hado 54 is stated to eradicate ones existence and every hado above that is stronger meaning all of them are erasure existence and none of those could kill aizen, tanked an attack from yhwach which erasured him from all time lines and bleach has infinite time lines stated in LN, aizen has infinite speed as hes faster then every captain in TYBW and captains were dodging attacks stated to be near instant if not instant
1 . Soul society was never stated to be a universe Rather Hoshi WHCHH means Stars / planet. 2Another's debunk for ss is When Yama was going out bankai Shinsui / retsu stated that The moisture was drying up does that means a uni have moisture. 3 in the only novel cannon Movie Urahara stated that A town from wotl suddenly appeared above serithel.... Does that meana town from uni? Don't make sense. And a outer space has no air and it's basically a vacuums that sucks our ur inside Gremmy hoped of creating "THE VOID OF OUTER SPACE" he would not only trap Kenny but kill him. that was the purpose of creating the void.but what is outer space?? the answer is simply the void of emptiness that exits beyond the earth atmosphere the space between earth and mars is outer space the spacw bwten sun and earth is outer space . especially in the context it's stated that he created the void himself only by Imaging toh we don't have proff for that it's basically a hax . and it's also stated in the novel. I can show u dm me .now u may be asking where did the star and galaxy comes from?? simply he had even materialised a gigantic metero and outer space itself in the serithel.All gremmy did was materialise a section of the actual outer space inside the seireitei. The heavenly bodies in there were not created by himAnd this is consistent with the fact that gremmy NEEDED to create a clone to be able to summon a meteorite. If 2 gremmy's = a meteorite. I don't think I need to explain why 7 wouldn't even be able to create star,let alone an entire galaxy or universe. The power to increase his power of imagination by cloning himself. He did not imagine anything larger than that meteor before cloning himself, this along with what he himself stated proves that he didn't create a galaxy or universeIt is also consistent with the fact that there is no point in creating entire galaxies to kill kenpachi when the reason for why Gremmy created outer space in the first place was given by he himself. Which are:1. It has no form for kenpachi to cut2. The negative effects the void of outer space has on beings. Such as causing bodily fluids to evaporate and causing blood from wounds to boil.There's legit no point in creating entire galaxies just for these 2 properties to take effect. The properties aren't even caused by said galaxies in the first place, the only thing that was needed and materialised, was the void itselfAnd with that, I have successfully debunked all claims scaling gremmy or kenpachi to "galactic - universal" level. Blowing up the cleaner isn't all too impressive, he simply used an alternate method, what matters is that Aizen and Gin were only flung a short distance off their course from that interaction when the Cleaner simply chasing you apparently takes off centuries worth of time. It's even more impressive considering Aizen was mere inches away from it. Gin who is atleast country level >>>>>To a guy who desty clear doesn't make sense . That was a huge wank Tempest Well I have other debunk regarding His hoyka but that's pretty Cool seeing alot of wank ! All in all it's 50/50 .
wtf is this debunk, I don’t even debate anymore but your debunk is horrendous 🤦🏻♂️. Bro thinks he’s smarter than the guy who does this as his full time job 😭🙏
He can't he just assumes your wrong because a RUclipsrs side is different But in in CFYOW novel kyoraku brought up gremmys outer space feat and stated it as it is in the manga he created outer space You even have aizen making a star in the las noches that has a day and night cycle and also rain fall even if you don't use that the original universe of bleach before it got split by the soul king still makes the WoL and SS galaxy size since we know huecho mundo is the smallest among the three@@amaterstu8000
1. The Soul Society is explicitly described multiple times as a parallel world to the World of the Living, and in SAFWY, the World of the Living is referred to as 宇宙, which literally means Universe in Japanese. It doesn't mean world or planet; it specifically means universe. Additionally, stating that it is a hoshi is incorrect, as we observe multiple stars within the realm, and the novel explicitly mentions that the Soul Society and the World of the Living cannot be likened to planets. 2. Unohana mentioned that the moisture in Seireitei/SS was evaporating, and Seireitei and SS in this context refers to the city or planet they were in. This doesn't debunk the argument; it's consistent with the context. 3. Your argument doesn't logically hold. A portal connected Karakura, the most spiritual city in the World of the Living, and Seireitei, the country-sized city in the Soul Society. As for your Gremmy debunk, it's invalid. The clones do not debunk Gremmy, as the meteor posed a threat to Yhwach, indicating that it had more force than a normal meteor. Gremmy was explicitly stated to materialize his 'Galaxy Room,' and due to how reishi works, Gremmy had to use his energy to fuel his abilities, making it scale.
Your first point makes 0 sense, what does Yama burning moisture and burning even Toshiro's ice that could freeze hope have to do with this, how tf is that debunk. Also IF YOU READ THE fcking ln you would know the realms are literally infinite, going off statements. Also saying Gremmy aint Multi solar system because of him cloning himself to "create" a meteor is insane, because he was fighting on par with the same Kenpachi who was destroying the dangai which has it's own space-time. You're trying to downplay with anti-feats to downscale bleach, what a retard, accept that Aizen wins. @@amaterstu8000
Honestly I don’t really get why people scale kagyua to sasuke and Naruto. They aren’t as strong as her. They couldn’t win without using the sun and moon seals. They never showed that they also had the ability to destroy a universe but everyone says that they won so obviously they are stronger than kagyua and therefore universal.
It's because this guy's a Naruto fanboy. He did an old video and said Naruto beats Ichigo (headcannon). He even said that Ssj2 Gohan vs Boruto is close and gave a bullshit scale for Boruto and gave him Multi Solar 💀💀💀💀. This video is proof of his improvement, but it's like the WIS editor Caramel, it doesn't matter if it's cap or fax, his takes are still ass. Fr tho, Capmel gave Gojo Abilities and Hax over AIZEN, and gave strength to Luffy over fucking ASTA.
Not only that, he can become 10d if he wants it. The Hogyoku is literally like the 7 Dragonballs but with a different type of trigger mechanism@@trouble001
@@orochieditzz nah Sasuke decent canon scaling is Star to Solar system And aizen decent canon scaling is Universal to universal+ Aizen is equal to ichigo both are transcended beings in bleach And in tybw anime they will upscale because of the more details and changes
This isn't even an agreement to begin with 😂. Expect fr truth seeking orbs which can deal soul damage and rinnegan abilities like summoning king of hell, soul extraction and the art of rinne re birth (and most of these are just supportive abilities and also we have never seen emo kid using any of these abilities), there is no other jutsus or techniques displayed in naruto/boruto verse which can affect souls. And here we are debating not about a soul but a Soul Reaper who is immortal+ transcendent + desire manifestation + adaptation + fate change + (300+) spells (kido, bakudos, etc) + passive complete hypnosis + infinite evolution. Who is also has a speed of mftl and has can just bring an entire different private dimension down just by sitting on a fkin chair 😑. Also I don't get it how tf do you think you can see mftl feats in anime without showing it on a slower pace. Hell even normal shunshin in naruto is a blur which is not even close to mftl and as we saw in bleach aizen defeated all visords and captains meanwhile Ichigo was standing there like a dumbass but in reality it was so fast that Ichigo wad not even able to react but for us to understand wtf happened it was explained slowly in the anime. So basically Bleach vs Naruto - Bleach wins Bleach vs DBZ - DBZ wins Bleach vs OPM - Bleach wins (current opm has no feats to counter as single attack from a low level hollow regardless of multi solar system level or galaxy level) DBZ vs OPM - DBZ wins (same situation here for opm here as well) OPM vs Naruto - OPM wins DBZ vs Naruto - DBZ wins Naruto vs JJK - Naruto wins (only characters that can win are emo kid, furry kid, red beast, simp sage, jubidara, jubidara bf, uchiha slayer and all aliens)
AIZEN. Easily. For the record, I hate Aizen's guts but it's not even a contest. He has Sasuke beat in every conceivable way because he's much older and has dealt with threats that Sasuke would only think exist in his nightmares. Throw in Kyoka Suigetsu and it's not even in a realm that could be considered the delusion of fair.
Exactly people not giving the Rinnegan all of its credit Sasuke is going to see through that bullshit only thing Aizen have is that hoygoku you take that from the inside of or seal his ass he cooked 😂
Exactly people not giving the Rinnegan all of its credit Sasuke is going to see through that bullshit only thing Aizen have is that hoygoku you take that from the inside of or seal his ass he cooked 😂
@@99mangekyou dude if fucking Yhwach a literal god, using the all mighty, can see the future, infinite timelines, all outcomes and still fell for aizen’s kyoka suigetsu then there’s literally nothing in the naruto verse stopping aizen’s shikai.
Kubo literally introduced new feats in anime which changes whole power scaling for bleach 1.Senjumaru shaking the realms 2.ichigo tanking the weight/sp of all the cosmology of bleach for his candidacy
This the same guy that says Naruto beats Ichigo but now saying Aizen beats Sasuke and to my knowledge Ichigo scales higher than Aizen sooo does that mean Naruto also beats Aizen? Here's the facts, no one in naruto scales to Ichigo after his dangai or mugetsu transformations, the only versions of ichigo naruto can Maybe contest with are the forms before he goes into the dangai and that's a big maybe, Also kanzen saimin isn't like a genjutsu, it doesn't matter if you know you're under the hipnosis or not there isn't anything Sasuke can do about it unless he scales to someone like Ywach which is highly unlikely, the naruto verse is strong but not bleach level strong not even close
Naruto vs ichigo was made one full year before this one. Arguments have changed and you can clearly tell the difference in quality and scaling. Im remaking naruto vs ichigo.
Pls do Eida vs aizen or Yhwach can they hurt her ? Or daemon vs haswalth or the guy with the antesisis whose reflection is better ? Will it be a 3 way deadlock
First of all two things you left out 1: naruto characters don’t scale to theyre feats just because kaguya can make a dimension doesn’t mean she’s multi dimensional etc Evidence: as she still needed the chakra of all the people on the planet 🌎 and the god tree just t destroy the planet they were on making she doesn’t scale to her abilities 2) ichigo and aizen do scale to two god absorbed juha cause in bleach you can only cut someone that is around your level of power and ichigo killed juha multiple times in theyre battle and juha changed the future. Shame on you for not noticing that fact Please stop pitting naruto characters and bleach characters against each other it’s not even close bleach wins in all categories in power
I’m not entirely knowledgeable on how “cutting” Yhwach in that form counts as an AP feat since he seems to shrug it off until he’s stripped of power entirely. But regarding that FIRST POINT…. There’s at least 3 lines of thinking that would go against that I can think of. All of the chakra that the shinobi alliance had was very small compared to the ten tails anyway, so she wouldn’t really have gotten a “buff.” Remember, Naruto could make essentially every fodder in the WORLDS MILITARY borderline 10x kakashi’s level. And he only had half of the nine tails to do that. 1. Kaguya being the complete ten tails (or at least would be complete with Naruto’s half) would eclipse the alliance in power and really gain almost nothing from them. Like imagine if Naruto took back the chakra HE GAVE the alliance… would it be a crazy buff for him? 2. Naruto characters would scale to their abilities unless they’re hax based. Like imagine if Naruto got one-shot by somebody else doing Rasengan… Would be ludicrous wouldn’t it? The abilities that cause destruction is using their own energy to do so, so unless another reason is given it would scale to the character. And the method Momoshiki uses when “creating” these solar-galaxy ranged dimensions is never specified. So you can’t really argue its “hax.” Momoshiki, until further evidence is given, would scale to his own dimension via creation. 3. About the whole Kaguya thing, the god tree’s chakra was originally hers anyway if I’m not mistaken. But even if I’m WRONG… We have like 3 otsusukis who are stronger than the Kaguya who almost blew up her dimension. So even if you think Kaguya was “buffed” for that and I didn’t convince you otherwise, Naruto and Sasuke should still have scaling to even more impressive beings than “buffed” Kaguya.
Now you wanna downplay the Naruto verse and say they don't scale to their feats while jacking off Bleach. She didn't need it she was completing a task given to her and the god tree takes all the chakra because they wish to ascend to godhood. Wrong. Ichigo and Aizen both got destroyed while teaming so they don't scale to that especially Aizen. Shame on you for lying and downplaying to overrate and jack off your favorite verse. Ichigo killed Yhwach once with help then the second time with the arrow. Don't talk moron, Naruto characters destroy bleach characters, Naruto wins in all categories.
Atleast there is someone who realises naruto and sasuke are wayyy stronger than multi planetary level . Am pissed about op fans claiming naruto is continental at best.
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Edit* also whether or not you think sasuke can see through kyokasuigetsu or not is entirely based upon how you interpret sasukes rinnegan. I personally think he can and that is well MY OPINION. If you differ in views that is completely fine as well. Also Yamamoto loses to the real yhwach but is weakened why Royd, Again thank you for watching.
ALSO NARUTO VS ICHIGO IS OLD. AND WILL BE REMADE WITH BETTER SCALING AND QUALITY.
kyoka suigetsu is the shikai's name its ability is complete hypnosis
If sasuke goes all out and uses the hax he has but never used like all rennegan abilities then izanagi and izanami than coping aizen’s moves by sharingan than I don’t think aizen wins…it won’t matter if aizen has more strength, speed or intelligence if he gets caught in izanagi or gets his soul sealed by the king of hell which can be summoned by sasuke and sasuke can just absorb aizen’s soul upon touch…and if sasuke uses planetary devastation on aizen everything from that planet will get thrown towards aizen…
@@RohitNikam-ps2zjwow planet vs galaxy?
Bro what’s that song 13:18
The comparing characters from differet anime is stupid and childish
Regarding Senjumaru, what makes that feat impressive isn't that she shook basically the entire cosmology but she did it with a slight release of her power
And with a Bankai designed for SEALING, not damage, not Existence Erasure, *SEALING.* Aizen scales far above this, so naturally, he negs.
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 it's crazy because that's just like a passive eminence of reiatsu like imagine if she really used all her power without limiting it to around herself
@@TheDockent-u3fThat was a slight use of her power too. If she was bloodlusted and keeping her reiatsu closed up, she would've probably one shotted all of them.
One thing that people don't talk enough about is Aizen's actual arsenal. Im not talking kyoka suigetsu or hado 90, i mean the other 200 (im not being hyperbolic here) kido spells that are possibly at his disposal. Kido spells that are also pretty underrated.
Rikujōkōrō completely stops a person from moving any part of their body with the point of a finger.
Inemuri which can legit just auto KO a person by holding their hand in front of their face.
And a whole bunch of other just straight auto KO or restriction bakudo spells. As we all know he's very proficient in the hado series, capable of going to the highest possible level.
Im not saying he can use the unranked Kido but he definitelly should be able to utilize the majority of if not all of the ranked Kido spells due to him being at the very least on par with Kitsuke when it comes to being a Kido master. which like i said, there are over 200 of.
On top of that it is very possible, no just straight up confirmed that Aizen can utilize hollow abilities meaning he could potentially use things like Hierro which would buff his already absurd defense massively or fire out balas if he wanted to. His monster form already showcased him using hollow like abilities so something like this isn't out of the question.
the kido are divided into 100 bakudo (defensive) and 100 hado (offensive) all spiritual techniques, that is, they interact with the soul, I don't understand how people compare these verses if Bleach is in a higher rank than Naruto.
Aizen did use Hierro actually.
Now that you said it there are more in arsenal that will absolutely just one shot non immune being there's alot please do mention it more
Goddanm aizen is him 💀
As a die hard Naruto fan… this isn’t even a debate nor contest. More like slaughter. Aizen is a beast.
"Aizen is a beast" your a bleach fan and kenpachi is a beast aizen is not he is just superior
@@Exquizitscans not a bleach actually.
@@Exquizitscans what are you on sbout
Then you ain’t a naruto fan
@@SonGohanBeastsolosurfavversebro thinks this shit is a gang war or something. It’s not that deep. You can think naruto is a better quality series than bleach( ☠️) but the characters are stronger that’s the facts
we already predicted the outcome.
😂
Not at all. Sasuke negs.
@@choppyhakusho we can debate that.
@@shadowmomochiuchiha6839It's not debatable, Aizen negs Sasuke + verse
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 why you ducking?
Im here early to say Aizen wins No-Low Diff.
Bleach fans are such a wankers
Bud contradicted the video😭
Brother is right though
Negative* people wank Naruto into oblivion
@@TocattaTotentanzMacabre bro is indeed not right😭 Mid to high dif for Aizen only because of his hax, they both scale similarly in ap and speed, if not Sasuke being much faster
Aizen casually by sitting on his chair low dif’s Sasuke 😭
Chair Sama stomps sasuke
Hi Exro
Lmao Sasuke negs all versions of Aizen.
@@malekith33 Sasuke negs Aizen.
The chair stomps Sasuke neg diff + verse
Im glad you mentioned the new scaling of Squad 0. Dont see many people talking about that tbh
Damn I wonder if some of the 0 Squad died...if Kiskue and Yourichi and others replaced em
Damn I wonder if some of the 0 Squad died...if Kiskue and Yourichi and others replaced em
Damn I wonder if some of the 0 Squad died...if Kiskue and Yourichi and others replaced em
@@Isaac-lp2ewwhy did you post this bs 10 times and they don’t die they are immortal as long as the palace exists they will always come back
Phone glitched...didn't know that happened. Sidenote. Never heard that mentioned for anyone but Osho
The main problem is that Aizen has adaptive evolution alongside immortality and is extremely battle smart and has way more battle experience. Let alone the fact that the Naruto verse has very iffy scaling considering people can’t even agree on the same page for how big attacks are comparative to the Naruto verse itself.
Sasuke has access to immortality too he literally said it in his fight against Naruto
@@jamevolve8380 ……so if that’s the case why does Sasuke resort to jumping people in a majority of his fights if he has access to immortality? Aizen is just straight up immortal and doesn’t care about getting jumped. He actually encourages it, they are not the same.
@@jamevolve8380he doesn't. Give the name of the chapter cause I for sure don't remember that
Furthermore the actual problem is Aizen's evolution which carried him from being fodder to Ichigo to being above him
@@bamTubeDude Are you stupid? Bleach verse has iffy scaling and on top of that comparing the Naruto verses attacks with Bleach, Naruto's verse being clearly stronger. Sasuke can easily seal him with sealing jutsu.
@@jamevolve8380Last time I checked, Sasuke almost died, multiple times, while Aizen came back from celluar destruction.
as a Naruto fan , we all know Aizen too powerful for Sasuke. But imagine if Sasuke had a bankai 😂
Probably wouldn't help Sasuke having a bankai because even then aizen would still be to strong
@@waynegafford1010 I think he might be able to out strategize Aizen in the heat of battle so if was given some kind of hax with bankai and his other naruto hax & jutsu he would stand a better chance of winning 🤷🏿♂️
@@rellohz2755 probably but then all aizen has to do is use his bankai which we have never seen
@@rellohz2755 Imagine Aizen with a bankai now 💀
Nah ur right what if Sasuke had bankai... Wait what if aizen used his babkai
You guys be calling anything hyperbole, The cleaner is actually transcendent, the fact that it can freely move through time is proof of that, a feat to show that he surpassed reason isn't hyperbole
Mfs will literally ignore it even if they were shown an actual visual feat😂.
Reading and visual comprehension is a dying art.
I won't get into my scaling for both characters because most don't agree with it but all ill say is aizen utterly destroys here
Not at all. Sasuke utterly abuses and violates here.
@@choppyhakusho absolutely not
Sasuke loses in literally everything and has zero counters for Aizen's hax lmfao
Aizen actually blinks him out of existence
Aizen:
str: multiversal to 6d
spd: quadrillion times ftl/infinite
hax: too many
Sasuke:
strength: planetary to solar system
speed: ftl+
hax: can't compare to Aizen
@@roywempor8395 Sasuke is highballed to soler system max
@@endgame161 yeah back then some naruto glazer had convinced me, Sasuke is planetary
Even with tons of low balling for Aizen he still won. This ends the debate.
This guy doesn't get things right when it comes to Naruto and bleach
They aren't even comparable brooo
aizen destroy naruto verse
Cap and we can debate it
No
@@Exquizitscans they can't see him + resist his reiatsu its over for them 😭
@@mayymayl naruto world is bigger because momoshiki has a parallel universe with like expanding red shift nebulae and his universe is new so narutos universe being the main universe expands and is much larger than bleach and even has our solar system and planets.
@@Exquizitscanswhat are you talking about the Bleach verse is bigger then Naruto’s. It’s not limited to the 3 main worlds(and just because they call them worlds that doesn’t make them planet size and that’s it) they are all each their own universes and you also got the infinite Dangai, Hell, and all the other pocket dimensions.
I tend to agree with the higher interpretations for Bleach and Naruto. I see Bleach as Low Multiversal and Naruto as Uni+
Low Multi for Bleach since the literal plot of the TYBW was Yhwach destroying
1.) The Living World (Universal)
2.) Soul Society (Universal)
3.) Hueco Mundo (Universal to Infinite 3-D)
4.) The Kyogoku/Valley of Screams (Infinite 3-D as they can hold and infinite amount of souls)
5.) The Dangai (A Hyperspace that governs and separates time between the whats implied to be all the realms but confirmed to be the SS and Living World, making destroying this construct a low 2-C feat)
6.) The Garganta which in CFYOW was stated to be infinite in size compared to the rest of the Bleach cosmology, which would mean infinitely larger than the Dangai. Highball argument can be made that it’s a dimension above the Dangai making it 5-D or Low Complex Multi but I’m not sure the validity of that argument)
In the manga it was stated rhag it was Soul King Yhwach’s raw power that was able to create and destroy these realms, and in the novel, it was stated that the reason why the realms didn’t collapse after Yhwach died and why Ichigo wasn’t made the current Soul King was because Ichibei and or Squad 0 took Yhwach’s corpse after Ichigo killed him and sealed it, with the residual energy leaking from his dead body being sufficient enough to keep the Bleach cosmology from collapsing
Aizen scales above this as Yhwach actually had to output force into his attacks to damage Aizen and wasn’t negged by his passive reiatsu
As for Naruto, they scale to Uni+ if we take Kaguya’s ETSO to a generous interpretation, and then by the time of Isshiki and the current manga, they don’t have any statements or scaling for closing the beyond infinite gap between Uni+ and Low Multi
Kashin koji has a statement of shaking the dimensions in his battle against 10% jigen
Bro when they say the bleach universe or when the characters say it they mean the 3 world's operating as one not the 3 world's individually universes. And when ever I ask where it says that they are universal in scale I get the most faulty and backwash info ever.
@@faith4657 fr
@@faith4657The Three Worlds = The Three Realms ( Living World, Hueco Mundo, Soul Society )
@ElderBaguette yea realms, but when they talk of the overall universe its all 3 of them at once.
I'd be more interested to see an Aizen vs Sephiroth fight. I don't know too much about the scaling for FF7, but I hear it gets crazy.
sephiroths solos the vers
If we go off Advent Children then Sephiroth solos the verse
Sephiroth has no chance. He did win a death battle but it wasn’t impressive
@@marceljohnson2215 death battle are not great powerscalers bro. Sephiroth has feats putting him to Multiversal especially with him rewriting the story in FF7Remake. Death Battle had him winning against Vergil which he wouldnt as Vergil and Dante scale casually to High Outerversal. But Sephiroth is still enough to delete Bleach.
@@fishnutz5196 exactly bro
Let me get some popcorn so I can sit back and watch this
The number 1 bleachtard arrived. "Ichigo Is Outerversal"
To be honest I really don’t mind who wins between these two because Sasuke is in my Top 10 Favorite Characters but personally Aizen is my Favorite Character IN ALL OF FICTION.
Just cus you like them both, it's best to acknowledge the truth. Aizen will mop the floor with both Sasuke and Naruto teaming up on him lol
Those both couldn't even beat madara what are they gonna do to aizen 😂 @@Kay-ol1ye
Death battle rode Madara d too hard 😂. He was never in aizens league. Aizen probably wouldn’t have to go past base/ captain aizen to clap anyone in Naruto verse considering that it’s stated that he in base could clap all but 2 of the sternritter but even in base it’s a a close fight with those 2 and highly subjective to who does what first
Pure cope a naruto fan created this shit
No lmao Madara doesn't need anything past base to neg the bleach verse. Death battle was right for once. Lmao Sasuke spits on all of them.
@@choppyhakusho aizen at 10% destroy soul king reiatsu madara only for kids like you doesn't know about details
@@choppyhakushoyea naw ur trolling or straight ignorant. watch any scaling video. bleach is consistently than naruto lol. naruto is a fodderverse
@@Lumaz001 Nah you’re just ignorant and delusional, I already watched that video it’s just bleach bias. Naruto is consistently way higher than bleach. Lmao you’re either a troll or clown pick one. Bleach is a fodderverse.
Aizen illusion work on people stronger than him where as genjutsu cannot if the opponent is stronger than u, probably same logic as dragon ball. Aizen has regen where as sasuke does not.
That is a lie genjutsu works on people who are stronger your making a headcanon assertion
@@Exquizitscans so why don't Sasuke ever use genjutsu on Naruto in the final battle or why don't he ever use on Madara or Obito in in the war, what do u have to say about that ???
Please don't use the logic that the beast inside them can wake them up from genjutsu cuz Obito genjutsu was not broken at all by tail beast mizukage.
Where as aizen illusion work on Yamamoto and yuha even though he stated and we can see and know that he is weaker than both of them
@@arabbitwhocanuseinternet9657 as for that tailed beast they weren't joined so 3 tails never helped him. Also naruto would see it coming as you can sense genjutsu chakars diffrent from normal chakara.
@@ExquizitscansDued Sasuke couldn’t but Naruto and Killer Bee under Genjutsu, Hell Madara even struggled a lot trying to put Kurama under a Genjutsu
@@Chillchildren999 sasuke put bee in genjutsu but 8tails broke it because their friends also naruro has kuruma now so genjutsu want work and madara did it with ease and so did sasuke stop capping
Yamamoto never lost to Loyd Royd,he in fact did fatal damage and then Yhwach arived and finished both of them.
Dude aizen solos the verse i dont get why do people even still debate this ?
Bleachverse is leagues above naruto and one peice
we knew this back in 2007
nah
@@trevorcsizmar2222but it is.
Smartest bleach fan
@@Silence8766 Not at all.
@@NiiAmu-x7c Dumbest*
Sasuke’s getting his salad tossed and this is coming from a fan of both of them
Aizen gets clapped and this is comin from someone who watched and read both.
Sasuke's ass will be on another planet once Aizen's done kicking it
@@choppyhakusho i think u have a lot of free time bro to argue with everyone while being wrong.if u ont have friends u dont need to make it obvious
@@mahfujislam4026 I don’t but look who’s talking. You clearly have no friends and don’t have a life so you get to type some lies all day online.
The hyperspace/pocket universe statement was stated by the narrator
Aizen neg diff it's not close
Tite kubo has publicly stated that the anime and any of its new scenes should and would be viewed as the new Canon.
However, thats not to downgrade this video in any way. Would be a super cool fight, and love the take on it. Would be super crazy to see how aizens hac and sasukes, respectively, would clash with each other.
23:57 its called fiction u cant take something that fiction seriously with real life. I would stick that Muken is infinite in size. Unohana a shinigami with 1000+ year old herself comfirm it and she wouldn't lie.
Not at all. Multiple indications state it's not and infinite in her context means very great.
People always forget that Aizen ability is named perfect hypnosis he stated that was impossible to break out off.
All I’m saying is that if the Primordial Universe was infinite in size then by separating it into three realms by definition they’d all have to be infinite as well. Since even a part of infinite would also be infinite, however if the primordial universe was finite then at most like Tempest said they’re scaling to Multi Galaxy level except for prime Yhwach who arguably has Universal power based on him being stated to threaten the stability of all the worlds, however if Sealed Aizen can damage him that might be cap
Garganta is a endless black void that houses realms ( hell, ss , wotl, hm) and world of the living is based on our own universe and ss mirrors wotl ( this alone is low balled uni) along with infinite pocket dimensions present inside garganta , muken is infinite 🤷 so there's no reason to doubt yhwach being uni infact he scales higher.
Literally sasuke looks at aizen in his general direction while his kyoka suigetsu is activated, he basically got into perfect hypnosis without even realizing it from the start of the fight.
I can half see KS being a non issue as multiple times it is stated the sharingan and it’s evolutions provide resistance to outright immunity to illusions/Genjutsu. But aizen still wins low-no diff.
@@ethan1441Technically it's hypnosis that changes the viewers perception to what Aizen wants it to be too. Illusions made by chakra feels just different in principle to that.
With many completely taking you out of reality, with Aizens being still grounded in reality that you don't either notice anything is up.
You dumb? Aizen looks at Sasuke gets caught in a genjutsu then well Sasuke can do what he wants.
@@ethan1441 No not at all. Sasuke wins negative diff.
@@choppyhakushoHow? He’s infinitely slower than aizen, less strength, less iq, less hax, he has nothing to fight aizen with. The only thing he has is his dojutsu negating his illusions but even then aizen still just destroys anything sasuke try’s.
we already know who wins
AIZEN
No Sasuke does.
Sure buddy@@choppyhakusho
Sasuke wins
Your scaling skills are improving.
Are my skills improving. Because you’ve watched other videos that arent related to bleach beating naruto or vice versa and came to that conclusion , or are they improving because the character you wanted to win, won?
@@Tempest1018In your earlier videos you tend to only highball and take some statements literal without going into the different other metas of power and speed. I never really cared about the results, I'm more interested in the fair and consistent opinion of someone's scaling and if it makes sense.
@@darryltorres7302 oh big dubs i was afraid you only liked the videos due to the winner. Im glad you’ve been here to grow with me like honestly i appreciate it and it means a lot. Please give me criticism if needed
@@Tempest1018Lol, nah bro. Just noting the improve quality of your scaling.
@@Tempest1018 I think the same way im not a scaler myself but i noticed how much more in depth you've gotten and explaining why one wins over the other yea my favorites don't always win but if it makes sense then thats just it
Good video. There's a couple of points about the Muken that further support it being infinite in size that I think are worth pointing out:
1. The "almost" infinite statement is a mistranslation, and other translations of the same scene simply say "infinite", with the word "almost" (or similar terms) being nowhere to be found.
2. We know that Ichibei has the ability to see the true nature or the true "names" of all things, and we also know that he named all things in soul society, which should include Muken. So, as Muken means infinite or endless or something similar, and Ichibei knows its true identity/name, and Ichibei is the one who gave it its name, it would then follow that Muken is just as infinite as its name would imply, which is exactly what Unohana says in the scan you used in the video: "Muken, as its name suggests, is completely closed off, and almost infinitely large.", though the "almost" part is a mistranslation as I've pointed out in the first point.
That being said, we do still have the databook statement you pointed out of Muken simply deluding you into thinking it's infinite, rather than actually being infinite, so I recognize there's room for interpretation here.
It's a crime that the title isn't sosuke vs sasuke 🙏🙏😭😭
Don’t think this is really a contest. Aizen is just superior in almost every way. Also nothing sasuke can do would put Aizen down.
12:30 Saying Yammamoto lost to Royd Loyd is insane Aizen Wanking
Sasuke killing Itachi was part of Aizens plan
That'd be something Aizen would do ngl
Ichigo, and Aizen does scale to the likes of Yhwach, because of simple rule in Bleach verse, that u NEED to scale to someone to harm them/use ur abilities to them.
yhwach one shots both
The thing about this is that even if you take away the Hogyoku away, immortality away, Kyoka sugetsu away, and instant teleportation away. Aizen still wins insanely easily.
Its not really a fair match up whatsoever, Aizen is ridiculously faster and stronger than sasuke.
But anyways, how did you find such high quality of Bleach? What website or streaming site did you find that from?
Biased he would definitely lose
@@Exquizitscansdoubt it aizen kido alone will kill sasuke
@@SoloShyguyI highly doubt kido would actually effect sasuke since he has the rinnegan. Sasuke can absorb them since spiritual energy is technically yin chakra.
@@SoloShyguy kido dosent scale anywhere and sasuke can teleport out or use rinnegan to hop in a portal
@@SaberKT14 and when did we ever see sasuke absorb anything after his fight with naruto 😂 and even if he does aizen kido gonna be too much 2 absorb like aizen could literally kill you just be flexing his spritral pressure the whole only people to have that type ft is kagyua and momshiki definitely not no sasuke
To me aizem wins like you said, BUT I wanna say that throught time it has become "common knowledge" that bleach destroys naruto in power scaling, and it makes it sound like there isnt even a possible debate.
So yeah ty for talking about this topic because people theese days debate over EVERYTHING and hearing that something like this "isnt even a debate", coming from people that a lot of times didnt even watch bleach feels really wrong to me.
No Sasuke destroys Aizen, it's common knowledge Naruto violates Bleach in scaling. Idiots like you who either downplay and call everything in Naruto hyperbole or didn't watch it at all is wrong and sad.
galaxy multi galaxy ?? 14:47
That's universal+ at the very least
also aizen is 4D the fact that he transcended reason and erased a being that coverns time and space in a hyperspace means he did and was in the data books it was explained as such
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“My interpretation” and “my opinion” ever heard of them ? He was just expressing an opinion 😑
@@Tobey-4671Bleach fans imr😭
@@Tempest1018 Your so biased. It's hyperbole when it's Naruto but when it's Bleach it's not right? Overrated ass anime. Multiple fanboys like you massively jack off Aizen and Bleach in general to multiversal but when it's Naruto with clear uni+ to low multi scaling still gets downplayed to solar? Lmao this is sad. It's bias who ever is more lovable or destructive or flashy or colder to you is the winner rather than logic. Barely dived into Sasuke's scaling while majority of the video is basically a rant on why you love Aizen and why he should win rather than using common sense. Even with Sasuke's clear scaling and Kaguya's dimensions each being universal still gets downplayed to solar? Even with Momoshiki's universal sized dimension, tis is sad. How many times does a Naruto character have to commit giant feats like that to install your head that their on that level and higher. Low ball, Mid ball and High balled, Sasuke still claps. Doesn't matter who you think is colder or better written or whatever. Sasuke murders in a fight. Same crap with Kaguya vs Yhwach. The Naruto downplay and the Bleach riding is insane. Stick to Marvel vs DC scaling. Though you got errors in that but far less. Thor vs Superman vid was solid until the end when you said CAS can beat CK Thor which is false also if Rune King Thor was brought into that for the strongest versions battle then no doubt Thor negs. But CK can handle as it is already but at least you know Base Thor violates Base Supes. Anime scaling is not for you. Do comics.
As a naruto fan, before even clicking on the video ik aizen wins, im just glad we are seeing ppl put some respect on naruto and sasukes name, getting my guys to solar system to galaxy level
Where would you scale Ichigo, aizen, and Yuha with cfyow, light novel, and manga statements to back up your scaling. But regardless where would you scale them and how?
“Ichigo doesn’t scale to yhwach” brother what in shikai he was tanking yhwach’s darkness and cutting through it and in shikai he cut deep into yhwach and matched him in swordplay and yhwach taking precautions would obviously mean that he could lose if he fought a hos bankai I Ichigo not to mention yhwach being one tapped two times by Ichigo in bankai
THE DATABOOKS ARE HYPERBOLIC OMFG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This video is clickbait simply by existing. The only reason to watch it is to make sure you're not uploading a stupid video. Aizen wins 101 out of 100 times. There's no point in making a video out of it.
Your opion and we can debate this
@@Exquizitscans aizen no diff
Bruh, Aizen wins 1000 out of 100 matches, Sasuke gets badly stomped
Huh your videos are very well made with plenty of evidence.W.
All i want say eos Aizen (tybw) Aizen is nerf with the rope on his body. And still can go toe to toe with Yhwach + Soul king. Sasuke aint do nothing to unsealed Aizen not even if Aizen got sealed.
Your pathetic. Aizen can't do anything to Adult Sasuke or Teen.
EDITING GOES CRAZY
There no way you watched all the vidéo 😭
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@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch i precoged
@@ClassicalAlwayslol ohhh that make sensé
Tf Homie sayin
Aizen presence alone will disintegrate sasuke in to nothingness
Let alone hax and immortality factor
Aizen stomps
No he dosent and we can debate it
Yo are you insane, you clearly know nothing of Sasuke
@@Exquizitscans bro cry about it Aizen is a fucking god tf yall talking about
Hax man let alone power
Just by hax
@@jamevolve8380 lol
@@SHQIPEGHO5T trash
Also Yhwach being effected by Kyouka Suigetsu before re-obtaining The Allmighty has nothing to do with his inability to break the effects until he fists Aizen.
I really like the fact that you acknowledged the different interpretations of each character and at least addressed what you agreed/disagreed with. There was literally no bias. A lot of people tend to only address one meta they agree with like “Universal Bleach” and “Planet Level Naruto” and call it a day. You even addressed some faulty arguments HONESTLY like “Kaguya’s mistranslation” and “Muken is infinite.”
Great video man.
No... He was definitely biased towards Sasuke and even with clear universal+ to low multi scaling he downscales Sasuke to multi solar and discredits him but accepts majority of Aizen's feats and statements? So it's hyperbole with Naruto but not for Bleach and on top of that massively jacked off Aizen to multi galaxy. Lmao. Sasuke spits on him. It's bias, who ever is flashier or more destructive or colder to a fanboy like him he's obviously going to pick rather than use logic. The amount of time he was yapping about Sasuke was hilarious same with the Kaguya vs Yhwach video. He's half pie. Sometimes he's somewhat relevant and logical then other times biased and can hear it in his voice and arguments. Sasuke murderstomps Aizen.
@@choppyhakusho
No he was pretty fair.
11:29
Debunking potential Bleach wank. He accepted every statement for both characters, but he used the REASONABLE interpretations for what they mean.
That moon looks much more closer than our moon
This was a great video. A lot of charitable interpretation for both series. I believe Sasuke would win. A lot of the abilities that he has access to that could potentially give him a win condition weren't really mentioned in this video. All in all this was very well made.
Bro Aizen is busted! He literally can’t die from being erased, The fact he could control and SOUL KING ALL MIGHTY BUFFED YHWACH senses of his future that’s a crazy feat to think about 2 bro he literally was the last line of defense for soul society and he did a better job than anyone in the series ong 😂
I would like to hear your reasons. I personally think aizen wins due to his hundreds of years worth of experience and the bullshit he can pull. But Im intrested in your thoughts.
@@xvittsl5383anything else is pure cope from narutards aizen literally cannot die cuh he was literally imprisoned and ywach said he shouldn’t bother trying to kill him. Then he came back from complete erasure. Sasuke gets bitched by a knife thu the eye
5:38. It's a mistranslation. The kanji used is "異界" which means another world or next world NOT a parallel universe. World ≠ Universe.
6:03 Kaguya's dimensions are not "large solar system" in size. In comparison to our own solar system (which is 30 trillion km | 18.6 trillion miles and is considered large), Kaguya's dimensions are barely around 150 million km or 93 million miles in size. Some can argue that this cant be classified as Solar Level, but rather as Large star.
6:05 the statements that Kaguya creates her dimension are mistranslation. Kanji used is "Tsugu (つ-ぐ)" and "Kukan(空間)" which translates to "Gathering and assembly of space" which imply Kaguya assembled these dimensions rather than creating them. We've never even received a time frame of this so called creation feat. It could've taken decades, centuries, who knows? The context behind Kaguya's ability is not creating any dimensions because there is no actual proof for that. It's in context to her linking her dimensions with her teleportation ability.
6:24 It's a pocket dimension. Not an actual parallel universe. "それは、彼の構築した異世界の外にまで漏れ出しつつある" - Statement used, which translates to: He was even draining chakra leaking outside the different world he"d constructed.". Different World ≠ Parallel Universe, Momoshiki is barely Large Star to potentially Solar (He scales above Kaguya). Since it's a pocket dimension, Momoshiki doesn't scale to Galaxy level as you implied.
7:34 No. Naruto and Sasuke don't pass Star to Solar System level. Anything above is a wank.
22:09 Muken is stated many times to be infinite. Unohana states that "Muken is completely closed off and infinitely large". Only in the English translations and English Dub, is said that Muken is "Immesurably vast" or "Almost infinite". Those are mistranslations. The manga also states that it stretches to infinity meaning that it expands to infinity.
22:15 Dangai is a hyperspace, confirmed in the light novel: "as such, to prevent these worlds - that is the World of the living as well as Soul Society - from ever contacting one another, a boundary-like hyperspace known as the "Disconnection boundary(Dangai)" must remain pesent among these structures." "Dangai is a disconnected space surrounded by a torrent of layers and layers of time." - Space-time is 4D as it contains a 3D space along with an extra temporal dimension making it 4D. Since the Dangai is Already 4D due to it being a hyperspace and being stated to be a spacetime and having multiple layers of time, the dangai would be a 5D construct (5D with some wank of course.) Also, Dangai further proves that Bleach Cosmology is Low Mutliverse to Multiverse.
24:16 - 25:12 Space-times do not actually give Kaguya 4D AP. Here's why. Space-times have three actual cardinal space axes with an extra temporal one. Three cardinal space axes which is 3D with an extra temporal dimension, not with another cardinal space axis. Four axes would be a hyperspace. Kaguya needs to destroy a three dimensional zone of space on a universal scale. Her dimensions are technically 4D, but also aren't. Kaguya's Dimensions are actually 3D with an extra temporal dimension and it's size is about Large Star to Solar System.
Extra scaling:
Yhwach was going to destroy the main three realms (All Universal+ in sizes, I could just explain the cosmology here, but the comment would be too long. If you want me to explain the cosmology then feel free to ask.), destroy Dangai, and make Garganta collapse, which is a 5D construct, granting Yhwach Low Multi AP and since Ichigo managed to cut and kill Yhwach twice, then he should be relative. Ichigo = Universal+ to Low Multi.
P.S: This comment took way too long to write D:
Writing all this is kinda cringe the just join the discord server😭
@@Tempest1018 Bro don't hurt my feelings. Plez read it.
@@mitzoon. no i did read it. I think you misrepresented EVERYTHING i said. Because I didn’t call momoshiki’s dimension a parallel universe😭 thats why i said join the discord so we can talk there cause i hate comment debating
Sasuke stands no chance
yes he does
@@Jamal-g8jHow so? Sasuke doesn't have any wincons
1. He has no counter to the Immortality granted by the Hogyoku.
2. His Genjutsu is an inferior Kyoka Suigetsu, and he has no resistances to Kyoka Suigetsu either.
3. He gets stat stomped heavily being massively slower and weaker.
4. He gets outskilled to an embarrasing degree as Aizen is on par with people such as Yhwach in skill, the same Yhwach who fought Yamamoto who founded the Soul Society and most Shinigami combat arts, including 8000 sword styles, while believing he had mastered every shinigami art there is to know.
5. Aizen is a far better tactician and will figure out any plan before Sasuke can even think about it.
6. Hogyoku Fate Manipulation allows Aizen access to anything he desires on a multiversal scale.
7. Sasuke has no resistances to cover surviving Soul Crush or Existence Erasure, both of which Aizen PASSIVELY emits.
We knew who would win also anime express gang
This was a really good video but how do you have aizen stomping sasuke and then say naruto beats ichigo💀
Because that video is old
yeah dumb af
@Tempest1018 Probably should remake it
The Dangai is literally stated to be infinite in size and is never contradicted, UNLIKE the Muken; It's actually confirmed that you could wander the Dangai endlessly and never find an end.
Aizen no diffs + verse
No tbh 🤷🏻♂️.
@@Tobey-4671 Yes tbh
Nobody in naruto or boruto or shippuden is touching aizen
@@Tobey-4671 i sure think so because kyoka suigetsu is enough for 90 percent of the verse and outside of naruto sasuke madara kakashi obito pain momoshiki ishiki and boruto code kawaki and some others with some resistance to kyoka suigetsu that is only if they have some resistance because of the dojutsu they possess if you think that there eyes can help them from resisting his kyoka suigetsu with aizens iq all the characters in naruto universe will attack there allies if aizen controls everyones senses and made them fight each other and fight naruto sasuke and others 99 pwecwnt of the verse is dead already and all that is left is the heavy hitters
lemme clear one thing for you others remaining heavy hitters wont corporate with each other because they are enemies especially not the otsusuki members even if they all corporate with aizens experience and and mastery of kido half of them will fall down in mere seconds as aizens spiritual pressure is also too much for them too and all left is naruto sasuke boruto kawaki code and otsusuki's and if aizen goes all out it will be also over is just minutes as aizens scales way above them is speed strength hax and abilities and even in skills aizens swordsmanship is top notch and he has more experience than everyone of the combined aizen is too much for naruto verse no doubt
but all these only if they can resist aizens kyoka suigetsu if they dont it is all over the moment everyone looks at him
and sorry to inform to aizens spiritual pressure is too much for them 95 percent of them will with that alone
and aizens attacks are directly applied to the soul idk if they can even block it riatsu is always superior to chakra and ki
@@GokuSolosFictionCope💀Aizen can’t even perceive shibai 😭smartest bleach meat eater
@@NiiAmu-x7c Shibai is fodder 😂
Quit riding
Great vid man 🤙
No need to watch the video. Aizen negative diffs every version of sasuke. Naruto fans wank the verse into oblivion because it’s their favorite show
I could say the same for bleach fans
@@Burn_FiElDWe at least know our limits better than Narutards. I swear people actually think LN Momoshiki stands a chance against Cosmic Fear Garou, lol, Monster Garou solos the verse + Shibai + cope.
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 Shibai solos the bleach fodderverse it's not even close
LN momo solos OPM verse until Saitama gets a new feat, it stays that way so get tf out.
@@Burn_FiElDBullshit. Absolute bullshit. Ichigo negs Shibai with his left nut and Blast negs the verse without his portals
@@Burn_FiElDmy Ninja, no one in Naruto is getting past Galaxy, let alone planetary. Garou's radiation would kill everyone in the verse and no one has resistence or the AP to kill him, not even Saitama did. Monster Garou is overkill, CFM Garou is just bullying. Shit's like putting Tanjiro against Hajun, Naruto, Boruto, and the verse is getting wiped out no diff at worst, no concept of diff at best. Momo can't even beat Boros lmfao
As soon as Sasuke would get to overpowering Sosuke, just engaging Bankai, would end it pretty much immediately
Bleach fans have arrived 😑🙏 Clearly people never watch the video for at least 5 minutes before bothering to comment 🤦🏻♂️
I've seen both bleach and naruto to completion and this is not a fight, it's a stomp. aizen would just need to flex his spiritual pressure
Dawg. That's like saying "dbz fan lol" to someone saying Goku stomps Blue from blue's clues. There's just no contest regardless.
I watched the video. Aizen stomps lmao
Aizen negs the verse and it's not even close
Fr@@bootlegspinjutsu9966
We don’t now if he has a bankai but i am pretty shore he does
She said the SLIGHTEST USE Of HER POWER ,,,,, not her Bankai
Slightest use of her true power. Combined with the fact that the seal is for their "true swords," and it's clear she was talking about her bankai. Plus, that's what we're shown
@@corruptangel6793 she never said slightest use of true power …
@@gralegambino1433
Dub: "Even the slightest exertion of our FULL powers would cause the heavens and earth of all three worlds to tremble. That is the reason our lives have all been linked to one another for so long. To make sure our true swords would be sealed away."
Sub: "Even the slightest use of our powers would cause the heaven and earth of the three worlds to tremble. Because of that, we linked our lives to one another to seal away our TRUE swords."
@@corruptangel6793 true swords . Means this final stage of zanpakto …. Something Aizen reached … you can still use shikai in that state …
@@gralegambino1433 True swords mean Bankai, the physical manifestation of a Zanpakuto's true form and power.
What Aizen and Ichigo did wasn't any final form. You can't use shikai, the partial release of a Zanpakuto's true form, if you don't have a Zanpakuto. His Zanpakuto crumbled away, remember? How can something that doesn't exist showcase its true form? What Aizen uses isn't shikai, but what is now HIS ability to control the senses.
Same with Ichigo. He doesn't become Zangetsu. He becomes one with Getsuga Tenshou, the ability. That's why Zangetsu ceases to exist, and Ichigo holds pure energy when using Mugetsu.
when we are told about the soul society it is always that country in a dome. it's clear that it isn't the realm but the country dome that sits on a planet. we even have multiple soul society like the one in burn the witch.
This comments tell me u never watched Bleach 🤦🏻♂️. Your confusing the SS with the seratai 😂💀
@@Tobey-4671 tell me other societies that exist not in the seratai or that soul king palace that all exist on one planet.
@@eddieboston6540 How tf is the SS A FCKING PLANET IF IT HAE CELESTIAL OBJECTS 🤦🏻♂️. It literally can’t be a planet, stop downplaying mf 🤦🏻♂️
@@eddieboston6540 The place under the dome is the Seireitei and the area surrounding it are the 76 districts of the Rukongai. 'Soul Society' is generally used to describe the spiritual plane that exists parallel to ours, similar to how the 'World of the Living' is used to describe the material plane.
However, just like 'World of the Living' has been used to describe the planet and universe depending on who says it, 'Soul Society' is used to describe the planet or spiritual universe as well. The fact that different people can mean different things when saying them is what causes so much confusion toward scaling. However, since Yamamoto's Bankai is compared to the sun, I'd say the reference to 'Soul Society' being the planet makes most sense.
As for the Burn the With stuff, I'm not super versed on it, but I'm pretty sure it's not located in the same spiritual plane as th afterlife, but a dimension created to house the dragons.
That's the Seireitei....
Aizen craps on the verse
People including death battle really under estimate Aizen. Aizen is tiers above Sasuke and Madara in my opinion
Sasuke caps at Star lvl aizen slams 💀
no bro he scale him perfectly stop dickriding aizen
💀you guys downplay Naruto to the absolute max. Sasuke stomps Aizen go cry about it
@@NiiAmu-x7c omg thank you
@@NiiAmu-x7c Exactly.
@@NiiAmu-x7cAizen slams this Gojo victim fraud
Well based on the lore, they said someone made the moon
"For me personally that's wank"
"It's a hyperboll"
Hard to accept it right? Ah and next time use the main thing about Hogyoku. It doesn't just grands Aizen immortality. It literally makes his desires happening. Aizen is complete immortal being able to upgrade his power limitless.
There is no wank and people realize it. Aizen still low diffies the verse.
Bro, complete is not what he has when we have characters that can delete him from their way better hax. He had high regen due to his forms that time when he lost it it gave him immorality and its giving you what you want is hype and good but it's evolution is ass and takes time.
@@faith4657it's not simple regeneration. He literally evolved beyond death. He transcended the concept. He's not immortal because he regenerates from any wound. He regenerates from any wound because he is immortal. You erase him from existence, and he'll just reform. Regeneration is a common power in Bleach, and it's been shown many times that chopping someone in half the way Ichigo did with Mugetsu would have killed him if it were that simple.
@@corruptangel6793 bro I'm not saying it's simple regen but don't over blow it just cause he says his immortal, he hasbt excepted the concept of death nor has he been erased and there are levels to erasure that are more devastating. Regen may be common in bleach but there is a reason orihimine's powers were so converted despite just being human and doing something the a lot in the verse can do. His immortality is trash compared to people who can basically nullify that it's really not that Impressive.
@@faith4657 Shunsui said if they had the means of killing Aizen, they would have done so. So not even Yamamoto's existance eraser powers could kill him.
Again, regeneration doesn't bring back the dead. Only true immortality can do that. Orihime doesn't regenerate things, she rejects phenomena. She isn't healing, she's alrering reality and making it so the phenomena never happened in first place. Hence why she could bring back the dead.
The Hogyoku uses the power of God to manifest desires. That is the entire point of the evolutions. The first evolution allowed him to transcend the limits of Soul Reapers and Hollows to obtain a higher plane of existence. Manifesting his desire to become a God. The second evolution was a result of his fear of dying after Gin fataly wounded him, resulting in him evolving beyond death. Becoming truly immortal. Later he evolves beyond the Zanpakuto.
@@faith4657 Aizen scales above Ichibei who practically can kill you at a conceptual manipulation.
And even Yhwach couldn't kill him.
There is no "existence erasure" out there to kill Aizen by any means. That's why I m saying "he is completely immortal".
Are we still doing 4d Naruto characters in 2024 😭were not in 2021
Sasuke gets clapped negative diff. Aizen is a being that would be more comparable to the otsutsuki god or even above that.
Otsutsuki God are beyond big 3 reach
@@Archetype_EarthyThe Otsutsuki God is 4D, Aizen literally one shot the Cleaner which was 4D
@@Chillchildren999 what did you not understand
Aizen doing that doesn't make him 4D
Shibai is above 4D per chapter 75 lol by not being bound by the concept of space and time, making him 5D or higher
Also Shibai isn't the strongest in the verse as there are God's who created worlds, being omnipotent & omniscient scaling above Shibai
@@Chillchildren999Otsutsuki god is isn't 4D he is litteraly beyond than that like 5D or 6D since he's litteraly a being beyond than the soul reaper in Naruto and beyond than madara limbos clones
fax ,even otsutsuki cant still a chance again aizen
I think the issue here is eye contact and whether or not it works on a being that isn’t made of Physical Chákrâ though yang release based Shárīngán gènjūtsū on the six paths level (perceiving the six paths which is what the separated realms represent in a more complex way with a bit more western “upper realms, lower realms and mortal realm” set does make stuff a bit more complex in the two stories’ uses of shintobuddhist ideas about reincarnation and the six paths, though I’ll always say Bleach handles the six paths better from a spiritually realistic standpoint (and I mean leaning towards realism not being “more realistic” in general )…
But Sásūké should be capable of Seeing Aîzèn but touching and and gènjūtsū would Probably need to be at that six paths level… and I mean what happens if he chákrà sucks with dévà path? Should functionally have some abilities equivalent to shinigami like you could argue about Nágàtō’s use of Mádârà’s Rinnégán… but regardless Kïôkà Suígètsū is probably going to affect him regardless of the Rinnégán in fact it might Only work Because he has a Rinnégán! : D
But it’s Almost impossible to win unless Rinnégán gènjūtsū still work despite not having the exact same chákrà system or whatever… man if the 3rd eye was a Rinnégán or Rinnéshárīngán on Aîzèn then there’s no way he wins… so maybe he wins if he can kill before butterflyzen mode? : D still laughing trying to imagine ways where Aîzèn’s arrogance is how he loses underestimating a mortal or whatever… what happens if he uses Àménōtëjíkárà to swap places with him as he does hádō 90 Kūrōhírsūgí?! Or worse the hado 99 five dragon damnation or whatever it is in Japanese ( I can’t be asked to remember and transliterate it properly to be theoretically correct for SpeakFunction if I use alternate viable spellings…
But I’d say Sásūké loses More than 8/10 times probably unless Aîzèn’s being a Moron… which only works if Íchígō’s personal headcanon about wishing someone stronger than him existed and this is why he didn’t evolve an additional time or whatever… but he might just be projecting his own sadness or loneliness of becoming the strongest for less than 5 minutes after 2 months in spacetime transcendent training by imagining having a hypnosis ability with That level of power and thinking “well dang Kísūké I can’t imagine anything but loneliness cause I felt it through his sword… how alone blah blah” if ALL that’s accurate then maybe Rinnégán genjutsu is Fun for him if Sásūké does it right THOUGH Sásūké doesn’t know this guy was about to replace God in his story… so… would he be going all out?! He might be screwed trying to chīdôrí him as soon as combat starts… but some win conditions are just gènjūtsū Working before he uses his Perfect Hypnosis…
Not a good matchup but better than people would generally assume!
Aizen 4D- universal
Sasuke at least star-solar system
Is this a debate?
aizen is not definitive uni wtf 😂
they can both be scaled to uni
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@@imtruIy No character is definitively anywhere sasuke can be "scaled to uni" but aizen can be scaled to complex multi all the way to high hyper High balling them both aizen utterly obliterates low balling them both aizen still one shots so no this isn't a debate or close in any way aizen atomizes
@@Thegreatlordofall the fact that aizen has the Hōgyoku : its true power lies in its ability to sense the hearts of those around it and materialize their deepest desire.
If we law ball that statment that's outerversal since if he desired to be above all dimentionality he'll reach that
If they would have Sauske go full main villain, this would be a good match.
Aizen solos the naruto verse what make u think sasuke even stand a chance aizen was able to destroy creatures falling from the royal palace that could destroy the soul society with just flexing his energy while still in a chair and not having all the seals broken like are u serious
Sasuke solos the bleach verse moron. Sasuke could contend and overpower the likes of Madara and match suppressed Naruto.
I think Aizens strongest vs Sasukes strongest really only wins due to Aizen being immortal. So yeah Aizen Stomps.
high diff
Aizen negs the naruto/boruto verse. 3d bums gtfoh😂
Boruto verse is getting stronger everyday don't underestimate it.
@@Ghostyboydead ur right😅 tbh I wrote this on a whim, just to show how much more dominant aizen would be. Boruto is obviously going for uni scaling.
But it still doesn't change aizen slams shippuden.
@@GhostyboydeadTrue, although Bleach isn't getting weaker by a mile. The Hell Arc is still on the table and when that happens the gap will be even further spread out since Hell in the movie was multiversal and when the Hell Arc happens it most likely will be that too, and possibly might be even larger
Okay, im do some early scale for aizen, hes transcended ichigo's dad easily and only final getsuga ichigo transcends aizen stated by him, Ichigo dad was able to hold off dangai with quite easy which is a infinite size place with a separate spacetime making him 4d, aizen transcrnds him making him 5d Ichigo is stated to transcend aizen making him 6d, tybw arc aizen is stronger then final getsuga ichigo making aizen 6d which is low complex or 5d which is still low complex, aizen has erasure resistance as even hado 54 is stated to eradicate ones existence and every hado above that is stronger meaning all of them are erasure existence and none of those could kill aizen, tanked an attack from yhwach which erasured him from all time lines and bleach has infinite time lines stated in LN, aizen has infinite speed as hes faster then every captain in TYBW and captains were dodging attacks stated to be near instant if not instant
1 . Soul society was never stated to be a universe Rather Hoshi WHCHH means Stars / planet.
2Another's debunk for ss is When Yama was going out bankai Shinsui / retsu stated that The moisture was drying up does that means a uni have moisture.
3 in the only novel cannon Movie Urahara stated that A town from wotl suddenly appeared above serithel.... Does that meana town from uni? Don't make sense.
And a outer space has no air and it's basically a vacuums that sucks our ur inside Gremmy hoped of creating "THE VOID OF OUTER SPACE" he would not only trap Kenny but kill him. that was the purpose of creating the void.but what is outer space?? the answer is simply the void of emptiness that exits beyond the earth atmosphere the space between earth and mars is outer space the spacw bwten sun and earth is outer space . especially in the context it's stated that he created the void himself only by Imaging toh we don't have proff for that it's basically a hax . and it's also stated in the novel. I can show u dm me .now u may be asking where did the star and galaxy comes from?? simply he had even materialised a gigantic metero and outer space itself in the serithel.All gremmy did was materialise a section of the actual outer space inside the seireitei. The heavenly bodies in there were not created by himAnd this is consistent with the fact that gremmy NEEDED to create a clone to be able to summon a meteorite. If 2 gremmy's = a meteorite. I don't think I need to explain why 7 wouldn't even be able to create star,let alone an entire galaxy or universe. The power to increase his power of imagination by cloning himself. He did not imagine anything larger than that meteor before cloning himself, this along with what he himself stated proves that he didn't create a galaxy or universeIt is also consistent with the fact that there is no point in creating entire galaxies to kill kenpachi when the reason for why Gremmy created outer space in the first place was given by he himself. Which are:1. It has no form for kenpachi to cut2. The negative effects the void of outer space has on beings. Such as causing bodily fluids to evaporate and causing blood from wounds to boil.There's legit no point in creating entire galaxies just for these 2 properties to take effect. The properties aren't even caused by said galaxies in the first place, the only thing that was needed and materialised, was the void itselfAnd with that, I have successfully debunked all claims scaling gremmy or kenpachi to "galactic - universal" level.
Blowing up the cleaner isn't all too impressive, he simply used an alternate method, what matters is that Aizen and Gin were only flung a short distance off their course from that interaction when the Cleaner simply chasing you apparently takes off centuries worth of time. It's even more impressive considering Aizen was mere inches away from it. Gin who is atleast country level >>>>>To a guy who desty clear doesn't make sense .
That was a huge wank Tempest
Well I have other debunk regarding His hoyka but that's pretty Cool seeing alot of wank !
All in all it's 50/50 .
wtf is this debunk, I don’t even debate anymore but your debunk is horrendous 🤦🏻♂️. Bro thinks he’s smarter than the guy who does this as his full time job 😭🙏
@@Tobey-4671 Where was it wrong? Toh? Can you Even pin point out even one thing?
He can't he just assumes your wrong because a RUclipsrs side is different
But in in CFYOW novel kyoraku brought up gremmys outer space feat and stated it as it is in the manga he created outer space
You even have aizen making a star in the las noches that has a day and night cycle and also rain fall even if you don't use that the original universe of bleach before it got split by the soul king still makes the WoL and SS galaxy size since we know huecho mundo is the smallest among the three@@amaterstu8000
1. The Soul Society is explicitly described multiple times as a parallel world to the World of the Living, and in SAFWY, the World of the Living is referred to as 宇宙, which literally means Universe in Japanese. It doesn't mean world or planet; it specifically means universe. Additionally, stating that it is a hoshi is incorrect, as we observe multiple stars within the realm, and the novel explicitly mentions that the Soul Society and the World of the Living cannot be likened to planets.
2. Unohana mentioned that the moisture in Seireitei/SS was evaporating, and Seireitei and SS in this context refers to the city or planet they were in. This doesn't debunk the argument; it's consistent with the context.
3. Your argument doesn't logically hold. A portal connected Karakura, the most spiritual city in the World of the Living, and Seireitei, the country-sized city in the Soul Society.
As for your Gremmy debunk, it's invalid. The clones do not debunk Gremmy, as the meteor posed a threat to Yhwach, indicating that it had more force than a normal meteor. Gremmy was explicitly stated to materialize his 'Galaxy Room,' and due to how reishi works, Gremmy had to use his energy to fuel his abilities, making it scale.
Your first point makes 0 sense, what does Yama burning moisture and burning even Toshiro's ice that could freeze hope have to do with this, how tf is that debunk. Also IF YOU READ THE fcking ln you would know the realms are literally infinite, going off statements. Also saying Gremmy aint Multi solar system because of him cloning himself to "create" a meteor is insane, because he was fighting on par with the same Kenpachi who was destroying the dangai which has it's own space-time. You're trying to downplay with anti-feats to downscale bleach, what a retard, accept that Aizen wins. @@amaterstu8000
Honestly I don’t really get why people scale kagyua to sasuke and Naruto. They aren’t as strong as her. They couldn’t win without using the sun and moon seals. They never showed that they also had the ability to destroy a universe but everyone says that they won so obviously they are stronger than kagyua and therefore universal.
Sasuke literally says he can fight opponents on the level of Kaguya in boruto. Stop the downplay
Respectfully Aizen solos the verse were being completely honest
Sasuke negs the verse.
@@choppyhakusho cope
@@choppyhakushoSasuke loses to any low tier sternritter. Against a God Tier he has no chance. Aizen violates beyond the concept of negative diff.
It’s funny that whichever the creator says wins the comments follow suit if another creator says sasuke wins 95% of the comments are gonna agree
It's because this guy's a Naruto fanboy. He did an old video and said Naruto beats Ichigo (headcannon). He even said that Ssj2 Gohan vs Boruto is close and gave a bullshit scale for Boruto and gave him Multi Solar 💀💀💀💀. This video is proof of his improvement, but it's like the WIS editor Caramel, it doesn't matter if it's cap or fax, his takes are still ass. Fr tho, Capmel gave Gojo Abilities and Hax over AIZEN, and gave strength to Luffy over fucking ASTA.
i’m here to say aizen is not definitive uni and both sasuke and aizen can be scaled to uni so this is a pitched fight
Its not even close, Aizen slams and can be scaled to Infinite the stronger his enemies
Aizen is 5-6D
Not only that, he can become 10d if he wants it. The Hogyoku is literally like the 7 Dragonballs but with a different type of trigger mechanism@@trouble001
@@Aluja77 holy wank. aizen is just barely 4D 😭😭
@@trouble001 fuck no wtf 😭
I scale aizen to multi galaxy with lowballing
And scale sauske to planetary with low ball
Sasuke actuale scaling is between multi solar system to universal+
Aizen is galaxy to low multiversal
@@orochieditzz nah
Sasuke decent canon scaling is
Star to Solar system
And aizen decent canon scaling is
Universal to universal+
Aizen is equal to ichigo both are transcended beings in bleach
And in tybw anime they will upscale because of the more details and changes
Please make a video on Sung Jin Woo vs The Big 3
This isn't even an agreement to begin with 😂.
Expect fr truth seeking orbs which can deal soul damage and rinnegan abilities like summoning king of hell, soul extraction and the art of rinne re birth (and most of these are just supportive abilities and also we have never seen emo kid using any of these abilities), there is no other jutsus or techniques displayed in naruto/boruto verse which can affect souls.
And here we are debating not about a soul but a Soul Reaper who is immortal+ transcendent + desire manifestation + adaptation + fate change + (300+) spells (kido, bakudos, etc) + passive complete hypnosis + infinite evolution.
Who is also has a speed of mftl and has can just bring an entire different private dimension down just by sitting on a fkin chair 😑.
Also I don't get it how tf do you think you can see mftl feats in anime without showing it on a slower pace.
Hell even normal shunshin in naruto is a blur which is not even close to mftl and as we saw in bleach aizen defeated all visords and captains meanwhile Ichigo was standing there like a dumbass but in reality it was so fast that Ichigo wad not even able to react but for us to understand wtf happened it was explained slowly in the anime.
So basically
Bleach vs Naruto - Bleach wins
Bleach vs DBZ - DBZ wins
Bleach vs OPM - Bleach wins (current opm has no feats to counter as single attack from a low level hollow regardless of multi solar system level or galaxy level)
DBZ vs OPM - DBZ wins (same situation here for opm here as well)
OPM vs Naruto - OPM wins
DBZ vs Naruto - DBZ wins
Naruto vs JJK - Naruto wins (only characters that can win are emo kid, furry kid, red beast, simp sage, jubidara, jubidara bf, uchiha slayer and all aliens)
AIZEN. Easily. For the record, I hate Aizen's guts but it's not even a contest. He has Sasuke beat in every conceivable way because he's much older and has dealt with threats that Sasuke would only think exist in his nightmares.
Throw in Kyoka Suigetsu and it's not even in a realm that could be considered the delusion of fair.
I am slowly starting to except the higher tier metas for Naruto
I mean if Sasuke fights like his usual self, he will lose. But if he uses the rinnegan appropriately, there might be possibilities...
Exactly people not giving the Rinnegan all of its credit Sasuke is going to see through that bullshit only thing Aizen have is that hoygoku you take that from the inside of or seal his ass he cooked 😂
Exactly people not giving the Rinnegan all of its credit Sasuke is going to see through that bullshit only thing Aizen have is that hoygoku you take that from the inside of or seal his ass he cooked 😂
@@99mangekyou dude if fucking Yhwach a literal god, using the all mighty, can see the future, infinite timelines, all outcomes and still fell for aizen’s kyoka suigetsu then there’s literally nothing in the naruto verse stopping aizen’s shikai.
@@kevinsmoon3257 are you slow bro The MangekyoubSharingan can see through all that bull shit shut up
@@99mangekyou
You're nothing but a trash Delusional Garbage TARDS🥱
Manga readers about different levels of power knows just to much big difference. Aizen in tybw 100% power can destroy every character just by reiatsu
Be honest have you ever translated that unohana muken scan yourself?? Cuz it doesn’t say that ,,, neither does the anime
Naruto fans will do anything to downplay bleach so much so they call it wank when they can't believe it
Kubo literally introduced new feats in anime which changes whole power scaling for bleach
1.Senjumaru shaking the realms
2.ichigo tanking the weight/sp of all the cosmology of bleach for his candidacy
This the same guy that says Naruto beats Ichigo but now saying Aizen beats Sasuke and to my knowledge Ichigo scales higher than Aizen sooo does that mean Naruto also beats Aizen?
Here's the facts, no one in naruto scales to Ichigo after his dangai or mugetsu transformations, the only versions of ichigo naruto can Maybe contest with are the forms before he goes into the dangai and that's a big maybe,
Also kanzen saimin isn't like a genjutsu, it doesn't matter if you know you're under the hipnosis or not there isn't anything Sasuke can do about it unless he scales to someone like Ywach which is highly unlikely, the naruto verse is strong but not bleach level strong not even close
Naruto vs ichigo was made one full year before this one. Arguments have changed and you can clearly tell the difference in quality and scaling. Im remaking naruto vs ichigo.
We got another idiot 💀😊
15:24 These are from filler Ep and the relams are planetary
No 👎 ..... That's ur misconception
lamo😂 go check the filler list kiddo@@shubhransuoram1510
Pls do Eida vs aizen or Yhwach can they hurt her ? Or daemon vs haswalth or the guy with the antesisis whose reflection is better ? Will it be a 3 way deadlock
Aizen and especially Yhwach claps, and Jugram absolutely destroys that base Ichigo victim
First of all two things you left out
1: naruto characters don’t scale to theyre feats just because kaguya can make a dimension doesn’t mean she’s multi dimensional etc
Evidence: as she still needed the chakra of all the people on the planet 🌎 and the god tree just t destroy the planet they were on making she doesn’t scale to her abilities
2) ichigo and aizen do scale to two god absorbed juha cause in bleach you can only cut someone that is around your level of power and ichigo killed juha multiple times in theyre battle and juha changed the future. Shame on you for not noticing that fact
Please stop pitting naruto characters and bleach characters against each other it’s not even close bleach wins in all categories in power
I’m not entirely knowledgeable on how “cutting” Yhwach in that form counts as an AP feat since he seems to shrug it off until he’s stripped of power entirely. But regarding that FIRST POINT…. There’s at least 3 lines of thinking that would go against that I can think of.
All of the chakra that the shinobi alliance had was very small compared to the ten tails anyway, so she wouldn’t really have gotten a “buff.” Remember, Naruto could make essentially every fodder in the WORLDS MILITARY borderline 10x kakashi’s level. And he only had half of the nine tails to do that.
1. Kaguya being the complete ten tails (or at least would be complete with Naruto’s half) would eclipse the alliance in power and really gain almost nothing from them. Like imagine if Naruto took back the chakra HE GAVE the alliance… would it be a crazy buff for him?
2. Naruto characters would scale to their abilities unless they’re hax based. Like imagine if Naruto got one-shot by somebody else doing Rasengan… Would be ludicrous wouldn’t it? The abilities that cause destruction is using their own energy to do so, so unless another reason is given it would scale to the character. And the method Momoshiki uses when “creating” these solar-galaxy ranged dimensions is never specified. So you can’t really argue its “hax.” Momoshiki, until further evidence is given, would scale to his own dimension via creation.
3. About the whole Kaguya thing, the god tree’s chakra was originally hers anyway if I’m not mistaken. But even if I’m WRONG… We have like 3 otsusukis who are stronger than the Kaguya who almost blew up her dimension. So even if you think Kaguya was “buffed” for that and I didn’t convince you otherwise, Naruto and Sasuke should still have scaling to even more impressive beings than “buffed” Kaguya.
Now you wanna downplay the Naruto verse and say they don't scale to their feats while jacking off Bleach.
She didn't need it she was completing a task given to her and the god tree takes all the chakra because they wish to ascend to godhood.
Wrong. Ichigo and Aizen both got destroyed while teaming so they don't scale to that especially Aizen. Shame on you for lying and downplaying to overrate and jack off your favorite verse. Ichigo killed Yhwach once with help then the second time with the arrow.
Don't talk moron, Naruto characters destroy bleach characters, Naruto wins in all categories.
Atleast there is someone who realises naruto and sasuke are wayyy stronger than multi planetary level .
Am pissed about op fans claiming naruto is continental at best.