This was 14 years ago... your comment was 9 years ago... today is yesterday's tomorrow... I guess I don't have a point, but I wonder what he sounds like now. xo
I think Morrissey does the arrangements in such a way to separate them from Marr's way of doing the songs, and while it's not awful, This Charming Man was not meant to be played like a pop-punk song.
this is not the best version of this charming man but it is perfectly arranged. all you hypocrites should know that mozza's band is quite good,amazing musicians.and don't forget the fact that boorer and tobias have been part of his crew for a long time. show some respect.
He's actually quite straight on that one. 'You can go and buy my new album, however there are some songs for those who couldn't shouldn't and musn't'... He knows...
Can't quite understand why everyone is having a go at the guitarist and the band, do you honestly think that Morrissey wanted it played like the original and the band forced him to do it this way?! The guitarist is decent and could have played it closer to the original like they do for other Smiths songs but Morrissey obviously wanted something different!
Nah we don't, we just have the right to our opinions. I for one think this arrangement is ridiculous and obnoxious on its own, regardless of the smiths version or any other for that matter, and this has nothing to do with my soul being dirty it's just an opinion based on aesthetic perception, and it's okay, you state yours, everyone one else state theirs if they want, we move on with our lives while having learned a valuable lesson about what others like or dislike.
I gotta say I love this version...it was the opener last time I saw him and it kicked the show off in really cool manner...but I get what ya mean...Marr is one of the greatest guitarists E V E R!
Old one but love to hear again! Lyrics Punctured bicycle On a hillside desolate Will nature make a man of me yet? When in this charming car This charming man Why pamper life's complexity When the leather runs smooth On the passenger's seat? I would go out tonight But I haven't got a stitch to wear This man said "it's gruesome That someone so handsome should care" Ah ! A jumped-up pantry boy Who never knew his place He said "return the ring" He knows so much about these things He knows so much about these things I would go out tonight But I haven't got a stitch to wear This man said "it's gruesome That someone so handsome should care" La, la-la, la-la, la-la, this charming man Oh, la-la, la-la, la-la, this charming man Ah ! A jumped-up pantry boy Who never knew his place He said "return the ring" He knows so much about these things He knows so much about these things He knows so much about these things Source: LyricFind Songwriters: Steven Morrissey / Johnny Marr
This is a good version! I agree with the previous comments, that it would be boring it they tried to just copy the smiths version. It's amazing how fresh the smiths songs still are, on the albums and especially live. I love that Morrissey sings the old Smiths songs! I think we are lucky that he does.
I do like this version. It doesn't try to compete with the original versions and i think it's where Mozza is right now, energized and vital. I'd slag off the audience but that would be sour grapes because i couldn't get a ticket.
Professional courtesy, I would imagine. It is Marr's riff and it is so unbelievably iconic that, to do it without Marr, makes it sound/look like a cover version. Marr doesn't tend to play TCM either as it is nothing without Morrissey's vocals, and also without Marr's riff. Marr plays Bigmouth, how soon and There is a light often, but not tcm.
Do you really think box boorer couldn't play the original guitar, of course he could it's just a different version to a pretty perfect song and it goes more with the sound of years if refusal when this was made.
I am a guitarist, and I can say that when johnny marr plays guitar, I fucking shut up because I don't know how the fuck he's producing that beautiful sound of his. I seriously don't even try, I should but I think it would be too much hard work. I can play along with bitches brew, and everything else, but whatever rockabilly thing marr does, I obviously don't know where to even start. marr is and was seriously brilliant. now let's cut all the shit and have a smiths reunion, yah?
Off to see Moz at the weekend....love him to bits but the fact remains a certain Mr Marr wrote banging tunes that fitted hand in glove with his lyrics....no other musician came close apart from a certain Mr Reilly !
I wish someone would fix this and compile Morissey's voice here with Marr's current version of the song. Other than that, I suspect Morissey doesn't have the legal rights to play the instrumental part of the song, which is credited to Marr.
@TheModCon AGREED 100% wow someone who's actually NOT out of their mind on here :) But seriously I couldn't agree with you more, the whole point of covering a song whether it be or not be a song from your former band is to do something different with it i.e. make it your own. Unless of course you're in a tribute/cover band. I think the band is more than capable of cloning the the original version if that was the intent. Whether or not one likes this version, well that's irrelevant.
This new version is being bashed way too much. Yeah, the original is legendary, but this new version is fun and bouncy. I listened to This Charming Man way too much back when I first heard it. This new one makes it feel fresh again. :-)
It's hard to believe how many fans of Morrissey and The Smiths aren't actually musicians themselves if the comments are anything to go by here. The song sounds so different because his voice has deepened with age. It's never going to sound like the 'glory days' so you'll have to just appreciate what he's offering up now or get in your time machines and go back there. If you all want Marr so bad, you can always buy a 'Modest Mouse' record which is who he was with last. Never heard of them, huh?
A statement I heard years ago about the riffs that killed Elvis meaning how rock/pop etc guitar playing/riffs have come since them good ol EP days. This particular version of the song as oppose to original sounds light years away. Not good or bad just different. And I think adfro7 stated it better and quite succinctly.
The guitars didn't butcher it, but more was actually missing. I did not hear the bass player either play or cut through with the lines that gave the original recording much of its character.
I really would like to see Johnny and Morrissey playing together again, even if was just for this song.
he's still got that wonderful voice :)
It's like watching a completely different person after seeing him in the 80's performing this, but it's still Morrissey.
he still sounds AMAZING here
@@bchristopher7584 I certainly agree that *he* does, but the band don't!
This was 14 years ago... your comment was 9 years ago... today is yesterday's tomorrow... I guess I don't have a point, but I wonder what he sounds like now. xo
He is better here.
@@sweetnuthin his voice is better here, but the awful band ruins this version, compared to the original
Why is Moz backed by a skate-punk band?
hahahaha
too jokes
It was the most 2009 thing possible
Not skate punk. More like pop punk.
just thinking that, IoI
appreciate the fact the guitarist didn't try Marrs riff. Sensible.
It's not hard to play, if the guy is a professional musician he should be able to pull it off. He didn't play it probably because of copyright issues
@@geovaniraffaelli4508 if morrisey gave permission it would be fine i think, it part of the band and he was part of it
@@geovaniraffaelli4508 Prob not copyright, they had a specific mood they wanted for this tour to fit the album.
@@xanthelinhs2143 Yeah, they thought a shitty mood would fit the tour perfectly
This is appalling. Total sacrilege!
Johnny Marr: gives us one of the most iconic guitar lines in history
this guy: best I can do is power chords
Moz's voice still resonates loud and clear. He is a perfectionist!!
I think Morrissey does the arrangements in such a way to separate them from Marr's way of doing the songs, and while it's not awful, This Charming Man was not meant to be played like a pop-punk song.
Awesome energy in this version
It's a shame it's so different
But he still sounds flawless
It's just the music is the problem
Sounds like the strokes lmao
this is not the best version of this charming man but it is perfectly arranged. all you hypocrites should know that mozza's band is quite good,amazing musicians.and don't forget the fact that boorer and tobias have been part of his crew for a long time.
show some respect.
Morrissey’s voice is incredible. But Johnny Marr’s band is so much better!
This song, if not sang by Morrissey, is nothing
@@beteakoopelktxikia7934 this song, without Marr, is nothing. just listen to this crap
Dylan Kelly Morrisey has a great voice - Marr is a musical genius. Says it all really
When listening to Marr and his bands full albums, I wouldn't say all that!...
Thats the thing, Morrissey still has the voice and Johnny Marr still has the skills
Marr's riff is being absolutely slaughtered. This was painful to watch.
Then you can make the first time machine and take the Smiths back to life, or buy the copyrights from Johnny Marr himself. Cool?
They aren't trying to play the original riff!
what 'riff' ? Morrissey omitted the riff, on purpose, I'd say.
Even if they werent. This version doesnt do it justice.
"nobody" fits you
The guitars for this version sounds like the ones on Death Cab for Cutie's cover.
"Couldn't. Shouldn't. Mustn't."
He's actually quite straight on that one. 'You can go and buy my new album, however there are some songs for those who couldn't shouldn't and musn't'... He knows...
Can't quite understand why everyone is having a go at the guitarist and the band, do you honestly think that Morrissey wanted it played like the original and the band forced him to do it this way?! The guitarist is decent and could have played it closer to the original like they do for other Smiths songs but Morrissey obviously wanted something different!
Hell yeah man, someone gets it!
I agree
Pathetic excuse for a poor execution of a great song.
@@paulosicne5803 i would play it better than that guy! :D
This Charming Man is Marr's melody
I could never stay in seat while Mozz on stage....are they nuts?!
Brilliant performance.!!!!!!!!
Sounds like something in a skating game soundtrack
I love this version!
Impossible to meet a more Charming Man. Thanks Moz
I actually don't mind this version tbh. It aint that bad
1:05 me and my mum shaking Morrissey's hand!!
To be fair here. This is not The Smiths. I'm a huge Smiths fan. You people making awful comments have dirty souls.
no, it's Morrissey
Brandon Rojas-Gonzalez fully aware of that.
ok cool. but I still don't like this version
Brandon Rojas-Gonzalez The Smiths split in 87' This was recorded in 09. I'd have to agree that the original is better.
Nah we don't, we just have the right to our opinions. I for one think this arrangement is ridiculous and obnoxious on its own, regardless of the smiths version or any other for that matter, and this has nothing to do with my soul being dirty it's just an opinion based on aesthetic perception, and it's okay, you state yours, everyone one else state theirs if they want, we move on with our lives while having learned a valuable lesson about what others like or dislike.
Fifty years old and still sounds terrific.
People bashing the guitar, but I'm more mad that the bass is pretty much inaudible
Morrisey sounded like he's out of breath at the start... but when the song started, he sang like it was still 35 years ago. :)
Not believing how he keeps his voice
Despite the years!Respect!
He might be getting old, but he still got it! :)
The lust for life version!
Nice, it works.
I gotta say I love this version...it was the opener last time I saw him and it kicked the show off in really cool manner...but I get what ya mean...Marr is one of the greatest guitarists E V E R!
I personally think Morrissey is a charming man !
I agree
He's covering Death Cab for Cutie's cover of this song, which I don't think is a bad attempt at all
terrrible sound of this guitar, sounds like misfits jajajaj
Is just diferent something new u asshole
When does your brilliant record come out?...Please let us all know...LMAO
Watch the original then: ruclips.net/video/cJRP3LRcUFg/видео.html
Sounds like the ramones cz he is ramozne
Fuck off Jorge.
Always a pleasure listenting to his little comments between songs etc.
Been viewing this series of uploads, wow great and thanks for posting them.
I actually like this version, dont ask me why...probably beacause Morrissey shows he´s not afraid to upset all the indie-puritans among his fans...
the most horrible thing on earth: "have to sit at a Morrissey concert"!!!!
I think he means a morrissey concert shouldn't be a seated gig
Old one but love to hear again!
Lyrics
Punctured bicycle
On a hillside desolate
Will nature make a man of me yet?
When in this charming car
This charming man
Why pamper life's complexity
When the leather runs smooth
On the passenger's seat?
I would go out tonight
But I haven't got a stitch to wear
This man said "it's gruesome
That someone so handsome should care"
Ah ! A jumped-up pantry boy
Who never knew his place
He said "return the ring"
He knows so much about these things
He knows so much about these things
I would go out tonight
But I haven't got a stitch to wear
This man said "it's gruesome
That someone so handsome should care"
La, la-la, la-la, la-la, this charming man
Oh, la-la, la-la, la-la, this charming man
Ah ! A jumped-up pantry boy
Who never knew his place
He said "return the ring"
He knows so much about these things
He knows so much about these things
He knows so much about these things
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: Steven Morrissey / Johnny Marr
Johnny Marr, where are you? :(
Love this tune fucking much
isn't bad, but with Marr at guitar is priceless.
But marr isn’t playing..Morrissey is..the BAND
I appreciate the fact that he doesn't do that enough yell during this version
that guitar riff was literally lust for life
Heavy metal indie
he is always there for the fans
there are so many old ladies!
yeah he is the best my idol leyend master of masters wow it blows me out of the water
In love with morrissey
Marr's riff wasn't butchered, it was removed.
A sad rendition of a masterpiece
This is a good version! I agree with the previous comments, that it would be boring it they tried to just copy the smiths version. It's amazing how fresh the smiths songs still are, on the albums and especially live. I love that Morrissey sings the old Smiths songs! I think we are lucky that he does.
This sounds extremely similar to Death Cab For Cutie's old cover of this song.
wow, thanks ,morrissey.
absolutely yours.
Whats up with the people in the audience?...stand up! its Morrissey dammit!
I do like this version. It doesn't try to compete with the original versions and i think it's where Mozza is right now, energized and vital. I'd slag off the audience but that would be sour grapes because i couldn't get a ticket.
Oh so that's where Jet has been for the past decade, being Morrissey's backing band
I was waiting for him to walk off the second that lady in the front didn’t let his hand go.
Yes
He still has such a beautiful sexy voice!
the best ever
hey! im 14 and like Morrissey
I would of love to of seen this, will he play this at Glasto, I can only hope!
Only Marr can do this right! Morrissey still has that lovely voice.
Sounds like a mashup of Are You Gonna Be My Girl and This Charming Man...
Professional courtesy, I would imagine. It is Marr's riff and it is so unbelievably iconic that, to do it without Marr, makes it sound/look like a cover version.
Marr doesn't tend to play TCM either as it is nothing without Morrissey's vocals, and also without Marr's riff.
Marr plays Bigmouth, how soon and There is a light often, but not tcm.
Our Master
1:37 He didn't scream before the "country boy" part...:T I miss that "Ah!"
Fair play he's still got it.
Damn Morrissey and NOFX sound great
I like this version, even if it’s different from the original. Just like the way he does How Soon.
Astonishing Jesse Tobias ❤
wow, sounds as if Jet tried to cover This Charming man
This is like Mr. Brghtside without the guitar riffs.
Why is this video so protected? I can't download it to my YT downloader and i want this version!
the guitarist doesn't even reach the sole of Johnny Marr's shoe
The guitarist couldn't figure out the tabs by watching johnny marr videos lol
Do you really think box boorer couldn't play the original guitar, of course he could it's just a different version to a pretty perfect song and it goes more with the sound of years if refusal when this was made.
I am a guitarist, and I can say that when johnny marr plays guitar, I fucking shut up because I don't know how the fuck he's producing that beautiful sound of his. I seriously don't even try, I should but I think it would be too much hard work. I can play along with bitches brew, and everything else, but whatever rockabilly thing marr does, I obviously don't know where to even start.
marr is and was seriously brilliant.
now let's cut all the shit and have a smiths reunion, yah?
@fluggy20033 i totally agree, this was the only choice fore them to play this song
Off to see Moz at the weekend....love him to bits but the fact remains a certain Mr Marr wrote banging tunes that fitted hand in glove with his lyrics....no other musician came close apart from a certain Mr Reilly !
I wish someone would fix this and compile Morissey's voice here with Marr's current version of the song. Other than that, I suspect Morissey doesn't have the legal rights to play the instrumental part of the song, which is credited to Marr.
Moz owns this song. Nice.
@TheModCon AGREED 100% wow someone who's actually NOT out of their mind on here :) But seriously I couldn't agree with you more, the whole point of covering a song whether it be or not be a song from your former band is to do something different with it i.e. make it your own. Unless of course you're in a tribute/cover band. I think the band is more than capable of cloning the the original version if that was the intent. Whether or not one likes this version, well that's irrelevant.
This new version is being bashed way too much. Yeah, the original is legendary, but this new version is fun and bouncy. I listened to This Charming Man way too much back when I first heard it. This new one makes it feel fresh again. :-)
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death cab for cutie version?!?
the riff is NOT destroyed, it's deleted
Simply GOT to have Marr for this.
Anything else is half a song (to paraphrase.)
smfh about all those people shitting about the band. Morrissey either likes the way they play or even told them to play like that
@CaptainCosmic if Moz had actually wanted the riff to be heard, you can bet your life it would have been.
It's hard to believe how many fans of Morrissey and The Smiths aren't actually musicians themselves if the comments are anything to go by here. The song sounds so different because his voice has deepened with age. It's never going to sound like the 'glory days' so you'll have to just appreciate what he's offering up now or get in your time machines and go back there. If you all want Marr so bad, you can always buy a 'Modest Mouse' record which is who he was with last. Never heard of them, huh?
I'm a blink-182 fan, and that made me laugh...well done.
A statement I heard years ago about the riffs that killed Elvis meaning how rock/pop etc guitar playing/riffs have come since them good ol EP days.
This particular version of the song as oppose to original sounds light years away. Not good or bad just different.
And I think adfro7 stated it better and quite succinctly.
it sounds just like the Death cab for cutie cover, but with the ¨Mozz¨ voice... back = shit, morrissey = fucking epic.
Still but a great fucking voice
I would've jumped up on stage, hugging him... look, no stupid securityguys!
The voice has aged slightly but I think that the new version is indeed fun! It would have been silly to play the Smiths' guitar line, I think.
Totally agree. Remove the singing and this version is a standard My Chemical Romance song
I love this version. Should the band just copy The Smiths version?... That would be boring.
I agree with the sentiment, but in this case the guitar riff is like half of the appeal of this song
The guitars didn't butcher it, but more was actually missing. I did not hear the bass player either play or cut through with the lines that gave the original recording much of its character.