@@pisuter3564 don’t remind me of that god awful movie. don’t forget that to understand it beforehand, or hear palpatines message mentioned in the text scroll, you had to play FUCKING FORTNITE
They should have his voice lines play near the Iron Tree of Fellowship. Frankly, his voicelines need to go from the strikes, as sad as that is, it just makes sense narratively.
Veteran guardians from forsaken or before should get special cayde quotes in the strikes he used to he in. Like "sounded like a nice dunk!" To which ghost replies "cayde?" Prompting devrim or caitl to reply and ghost is all "nevermind just imagining things"
This dialogue is being delivered... weirdly. Like the VA's aren't quite into it. Little to no energy. Though I appreciate that it's no longer Red Legion. Hell, I'd take swapping out all instances of Red Legion in normal patrol spaces for Shadow Legion at this point.
Old Bracus’ whole thing was flame turrets and chartreuse, kinda wish he kept them instead of generic ones they could’ve put them in the story too and then they’d be like “omg what? Is Zahn back?” And then this story would more closely tie into the main story.
@@ostsmulor yeah but i mean kinda wish they change his aesthetic and the introduction when the door opens + make ghost say like "hey wait a min his armour aint chartruese"
Omg this is awesome, more enemies to fight you even go through a launch cannon, new story new dialogue, and you even get to fight along side Ciatals own cabal, this is so cool, i hope more strikes get revamped like this.
i loved the old zahn strike. played the new one and its even better. i didnt even know it was updated til i was in the mission, sprinting in the wrong direction. this is the one lightfall change that made me smile.
I actually really like how they revamped this strike, WAY better than lake of shadows. The only thing I don’t necessarily like is the health gated boss but everything else is really good imo
I’m glad there taking some of the vanilla D2 strikes & revamping them. It makes no sense that the red legion should still be around. Compared to lake of shadows this is way better.
Ok if they were willing to revamp thr strike to have shadow legion and have battle ground in the EDZ with the shadow legion, why have they not replace all the red legion in the EDZ patrol with shadow legion.
the fact that the last remaining strike of cayde has been changed is sad and yes I know that he is still around in the exodus crash, but even that is being changed
A full strike revamp and I guess I'm still stuck in shooting the threshers at the first part down first because nobody else would do it until _after_ all the smol minions are gone.
I dunno, I feel like it makes sense. Old boss died, new guy takes up the name and just says their death was greatly exaggerated. Immediate credibility and potential contacts as long as nobody contests it, sounds like a good plan to me.
@@MrStrangeUsername Hell it's not like this isn't something that doesn't happen IRL either. There's been times people have taken up a predecessors name so many times that the name gradually just becomes a title. For a European example look no further than Caesar.
@@S3Cs4uN8 Yeah true. I just wasnt expecting them to touch the story of them. Maybe I'm nit picking but he takes up the name of a previous guy, takes on the same job, and dies exactly the same way. The new bracus zahn kinda dumb lol. Like they coulda done what they did with the omnigal strike. Its basically the same boss but I new name in d2
@@Yilue Ahh I see what you mean. I mean, the route is refreshed a little bit, and the guy replaced the units with anti-paracausal ones, and also ditched the cost-ineffective and ridiculous flame turrets. He also avoided the biggest mistake of showing his face on the elevator up. But he was a bit cheap to not go further with his renovations, wasn't he? A very similar attack plan still worked perfect on him.
@@Yilue Yeah that's pretty much my one and only complaint with the new Arms Dealer strike. If they were going to go through all the effort of making new voice lines and changing up the route and enemies in the strike why'd they keep Zahn's name for the boss?, they could have changed it to literally anything and nobody would have cared but for whatever reason they kept it the same and had to come up with a pretty weak in-universe excuse for it.
Literally. When they entered the final room I was just reciting "And the flame turrets? is he using the flame turrets?!" "*sigh* YES!" in my head. That and also "Sounds like I returned at just the right time. Excellent work, fireteam." Cayde: "Thanks, boss! It was by the book, the whole way." Zavala: "Does this say "flame turret"?" Hawthorne: "Don't forget about the signal flares." *MASSIVE SIGH*
At 3:00 Devrim explains for we already dealt with Zahn but has returned somehow. Meaning he survived the original version with the Red Legion and is back dealing to the Shadow Legion. Or this is a successor taking up the mantle
This new strike is great in my opinion. Before, you didn't have any reason to actually play a lot of this strike, now you are recusing caitals forces and they fight along side you! I know everyone hates immune phases, but guys please understand that the immune phases exists in lower difficulties to teach you about what actually happens when you fail to one phase. This strike was so painful in GMs because so many people had no clue what to do after the damage phase ended when we failed to one phase.
@@sagethefish2263 sekrion, shield brothers, echo chamber, sepiks perfected, taniks perfected, omnigul, savathuns song, pyramidion, inverted spire, exodus crash, tree of probabilities, and a garden world. I probably missed some but there was definitely health gates before warmind.
... and this one has half assed dialogue as well. And in here it hurts a little more because we've sacrificed Cayde for a whole lot of silence while playing this. Sigh.
You can get out of bounds really easily with strand, just grapple on top of the buildings, and then you can get so far out of map. Like all the way to the mountains on all sides 💀💀
I feel bad hating on Hawthorne so much. I feel like in a way the poor VA for her is also in the firing line. Great VA bad script imo. Still... "you took down Ghaul, woke up the Traveler *slowly descends into madness and demnonic screams*" Cute birb tho.
This fucks with the timeline so much, because Bracus Zhan died during the Red War and that was before the Shadow Legion was even a thing, so how are the Shadow Legion here when this strike is supposed to take place during the Red War?! 💀
I like how Devrim and Caital are like
"Somehow Bracus Zahn has returned "
Later they say is someone taking on the original Bracus Zahn's mantle
@@xllWarlockllx Copy cats yes
@@xllWarlockllx yet he still dies the same
Literally the same energy as "Somehow Palpatine returned"
@@pisuter3564 don’t remind me of that god awful movie.
don’t forget that to understand it beforehand, or hear palpatines message mentioned in the text scroll, you had to play FUCKING FORTNITE
The scariest part is Bracus Zahn learned and can't be cheesed anymore
🧀🚫😪
Sad to think that one day, Cayde-6's voice will no longer be in this game via strikes anymore.
They should have his voice lines play near the Iron Tree of Fellowship.
Frankly, his voicelines need to go from the strikes, as sad as that is, it just makes sense narratively.
I think exodus crash last strike that has his voice lines
@@Lethal_Giggles oh yeh totally makes sense, just a sad lil thing
Cayde 6 taught me that the color chartreuse exists before I heard that line I had no idea
@@DEADtoRISE08 I'm pretty sure Mithrax will be in Exodus Crash. Remember... _The Light provides._
Veteran guardians from forsaken or before should get special cayde quotes in the strikes he used to he in. Like "sounded like a nice dunk!" To which ghost replies "cayde?" Prompting devrim or caitl to reply and ghost is all "nevermind just imagining things"
This would be so awesome. I doubt they’ll do it due to disrupting lore but I’m here for it
@@TheCBoysDotCom maybe as hallucinations or the witness secretly hurting our feelings
Please just let Cayde die
This would be the best
Sad to see Cayde being taken away
At least we still have exodus crash
@@yeetusdeleteus9493 This has major "At least we still have Bowie." vibes from Deadpool 2.
Caiatl's reaction to Devrim talking about the mythological Hydra is gold
Loved that line so much. It just made me realize that not everyone in the game understands the historical references that come out of Devrim.
RIP Arms Dealer. Always was one of my favorite strikes featuring Cayde.
This dialogue is being delivered... weirdly. Like the VA's aren't quite into it. Little to no energy.
Though I appreciate that it's no longer Red Legion. Hell, I'd take swapping out all instances of Red Legion in normal patrol spaces for Shadow Legion at this point.
Me too. Red legion are broken and gone, only a some are left as mercenaries.
in the strike: "but he's returned somehow"
Poe: "somehow, Palpatine returned... wait I'm in the wrong place"
This is probably the funniest joke I’ve ever heard
Hopefully there’s allies in GMs too taking down tresher
Old Bracus’ whole thing was flame turrets and chartreuse, kinda wish he kept them instead of generic ones they could’ve put them in the story too and then they’d be like “omg what? Is Zahn back?” And then this story would more closely tie into the main story.
They did say "its likely someones took his name" or something meaning its not the same guy
@@ostsmulor yeah but i mean kinda wish they change his aesthetic and the introduction when the door opens + make ghost say like "hey wait a min his armour aint chartruese"
Have to admit, the changes here are less egregious than in lake of shadows
What did they do to lake of shadows if you don’t mind me asking?
@@Suigeneris999 payloads. Ugh.
@@glomorailey106 No way! really?? they turned the fastest speedrunning strike in the game into a push the payload?! nooooooo wtf
Omg this is awesome, more enemies to fight you even go through a launch cannon, new story new dialogue, and you even get to fight along side Ciatals own cabal, this is so cool, i hope more strikes get revamped like this.
i loved the old zahn strike. played the new one and its even better. i didnt even know it was updated til i was in the mission, sprinting in the wrong direction. this is the one lightfall change that made me smile.
@@anthonymorris4211 Yeah I gotta say compared to the awful revamp of Lake of Shadows, this one actually looks pretty decent
@@aksis2133 we don't talk about that
@@aksis2133 Lake of shadows bout to be bailed on more than the corrupted
me: no tank on the elevator this time? nice
aslo me, seeing 6 scorpion: put the tank back on the elevator
This means that the only place Cayde is left is in the exodus crash strike.
Yup we’re losing bits of him every year sad soon there will be nothing left of him
@@almighty5839 except for that statue that took them more than 4 and a half years to even add.
Yeahhh about that....
Gm version is gonna be hard as shit
I actually really like how they revamped this strike, WAY better than lake of shadows. The only thing I don’t necessarily like is the health gated boss but everything else is really good imo
The health gate ruins it all for me
Dang people don’t listen when it explains in the Strike this in a new Zhan.
Yeah it’s less of a Palpatine and more of a Dread Pirate Roberts.
@@dustyfedora Or a Caesar.
I’m glad there taking some of the vanilla D2 strikes & revamping them. It makes no sense that the red legion should still be around. Compared to lake of shadows this is way better.
Ok if they were willing to revamp thr strike to have shadow legion and have battle ground in the EDZ with the shadow legion, why have they not replace all the red legion in the EDZ patrol with shadow legion.
i see they backtracked on their "a snapshot in time"
I like to imagine that every cabal arms dealer is named Bracus Zahn, makes the whole "Somehow, Zahn has returned" thing kinda funnier to me
Like Zahn is actually just a job description that means "salesman" in Cabal or something
Now THIS feels like it should have been the strike for Lightfall.
bless you for this
the fact that the last remaining strike of cayde has been changed is sad
and yes I know that he is still around in the exodus crash, but even that is being changed
Not going to lie I’m getting d1 vibes when taken and sevia was added
A full strike revamp and I guess I'm still stuck in shooting the threshers at the first part down first because nobody else would do it until _after_ all the smol minions are gone.
These changes honestly dont look half bad
Bracus Zahn - Disciple of the Bracus Zahn
13:56 all this just to get 10 glimmer…
Bracus Zahn: News of my death were greatly exaggerated
I like this revamp, the Lake of Shadows one still suck though
I wouldve given this "new bracus zahn" a new name if they where going to change the story like this. Just feels very cheesey
I dunno, I feel like it makes sense. Old boss died, new guy takes up the name and just says their death was greatly exaggerated. Immediate credibility and potential contacts as long as nobody contests it, sounds like a good plan to me.
@@MrStrangeUsername Hell it's not like this isn't something that doesn't happen IRL either. There's been times people have taken up a predecessors name so many times that the name gradually just becomes a title. For a European example look no further than Caesar.
@@S3Cs4uN8 Yeah true. I just wasnt expecting them to touch the story of them. Maybe I'm nit picking but he takes up the name of a previous guy, takes on the same job, and dies exactly the same way. The new bracus zahn kinda dumb lol. Like they coulda done what they did with the omnigal strike. Its basically the same boss but I new name in d2
@@Yilue Ahh I see what you mean. I mean, the route is refreshed a little bit, and the guy replaced the units with anti-paracausal ones, and also ditched the cost-ineffective and ridiculous flame turrets. He also avoided the biggest mistake of showing his face on the elevator up. But he was a bit cheap to not go further with his renovations, wasn't he? A very similar attack plan still worked perfect on him.
@@Yilue Yeah that's pretty much my one and only complaint with the new Arms Dealer strike. If they were going to go through all the effort of making new voice lines and changing up the route and enemies in the strike why'd they keep Zahn's name for the boss?, they could have changed it to literally anything and nobody would have cared but for whatever reason they kept it the same and had to come up with a pretty weak in-universe excuse for it.
Changes here are fine, although I’ll miss melting him before he goes immune…..Lake of Shadows on the other hand….
"how do we fix people running through it too fast?" "ah yes, wellspring & gambit prime boss"
That ship looks sick
Feels nice to see Zahn health gated, He can finally be fought the way it was intended in Year 1
You have to be joking
@@mini_6-50 you when you can’t bake a boss in 1.2 seconds, skipping entire portions and mechanics of the activity: 🤬😡😢😱😱
@@thesilliestgoose5990 me when the activity that I enjoyed gets remastered for no reason then people on the internet take it the wrong way:🙄
@@thesilliestgoose5990 🤓 "um no cheesing the boss allowed you have to play it the way it was intended!"
@@solidsnakeshugecake yes? Idk what the issue is
Lake of shadows for changed up too
Played this for caydes dialogue … rip
Meanwhile I'm missing hearing him talk about a weird color I never heard of and him obsessing over flame turrets. Man I miss him already.
Literally. When they entered the final room I was just reciting "And the flame turrets? is he using the flame turrets?!" "*sigh* YES!" in my head.
That and also "Sounds like I returned at just the right time. Excellent work, fireteam." Cayde: "Thanks, boss! It was by the book, the whole way." Zavala: "Does this say "flame turret"?" Hawthorne: "Don't forget about the signal flares." *MASSIVE SIGH*
*Zahn somehow returned* ye, they did it, Burnie reached bullshit levels of writing
This doesn't even make sense! We killed brahcus Zhang during the Red War as the strike was part of the story campaign.
It's his little bro the second
@Gummy Frogs yeah I know, I learned right after I commented. 🤷🏾
@@IRORSCHACH 🤷🏾
At 3:00 Devrim explains for we already dealt with Zahn but has returned somehow. Meaning he survived the original version with the Red Legion and is back dealing to the Shadow Legion. Or this is a successor taking up the mantle
Bracus is a rank title in the cabal, but the zahn name is explained by caiatl that “names hold power” so this is a succesor to zahn
this looks like day 1 Proving Grounds on crack...
This new strike is great in my opinion. Before, you didn't have any reason to actually play a lot of this strike, now you are recusing caitals forces and they fight along side you! I know everyone hates immune phases, but guys please understand that the immune phases exists in lower difficulties to teach you about what actually happens when you fail to one phase. This strike was so painful in GMs because so many people had no clue what to do after the damage phase ended when we failed to one phase.
Yay. Another lame immune phase strike boss! I loved this addition from Warmind
It was in d1 but aight
@slick2089 name a strike that did that
@@sagethefish2263 Strike on Venus with the Minotaur boss
@@sagethefish2263 sekrion, shield brothers, echo chamber, sepiks perfected, taniks perfected, omnigul, savathuns song, pyramidion, inverted spire, exodus crash, tree of probabilities, and a garden world. I probably missed some but there was definitely health gates before warmind.
I loooove immune phases
I just want to know: what jumpship is that?!
It's the Tropopause. It comes from Rahool if you have the Lightfall deluxe edition.
@@tempereddynamo7989 Darn, it looks awesome...
Excellent video---this is a strike? plays more like a Nightfall...
Yeah this is a normal Strike launched straight from the EDZ
Look at what they did to my boy.
So this isn’t one of the old seasonal missions from last year?
Also kept shooting Caiatl’s cabal by mistake…
It's a strike from 2017. Well, the renewed version.
... and this one has half assed dialogue as well. And in here it hurts a little more because we've sacrificed Cayde for a whole lot of silence while playing this. Sigh.
The original was half assed too but oooo it was Cayde so it doesn't matter
@@ConvergingWinter cmon bro, yknow the funny robot man that has a personality of just being funny is better than everything in this game
no more Cayde 6 dialogs ?
The last voicelines from Cayde are being erased, and idk how to feel abt that...
exodus crash site is still there
Bros dead, move on
RIP CAYDES
So wait, is this the only version of the strike now?! Can we no longer hear Cayde’s dialogue ever?!
I hope the nightfall version doesn’t have champs in the final room
Hmmmmm. No. Dont tell me they removed the Cayde voice lines. 😤
Pity this isn't in strike playlist
Not yet, at least
It is. I got this strike and lake of shadows aswell.
@@user-iu4rl7mc1e really. I haven't had it for over a year. All I get are battlegrounds and the corrupted, warden of nothing if I'm lucky. 😆
Talked it up. Just got it in Vanguard playlist. 😄
it is. thats how i found out about it. 100% dumb luck.
All I gotta say is thank god they didn’t neuter Inverted Spire… I _think._
Lmfao they didn’t even bother to change the lore. Also why would the shadow legion with witness tech need Brachus Zahn’s stuff?
Why did they revamp these strikes, but not the EDZ itself?
cause of cayde voice lines and red-con-ing the red war bracus zahn
@@RiveryJerald I guess, but the Red War strike on Nessus still exists.
@@bluebird1194 not for long it seems
@@hellothere-dk4gg What does that mean?
@@bluebird1194 they're planning to update those strikes later too, in later seasons
I miss cayde
Somewhat disappointed that with all the effort they put in to change it, he looks the same
You can get out of bounds really easily with strand, just grapple on top of the buildings, and then you can get so far out of map. Like all the way to the mountains on all sides 💀💀
They remove Cayde?! nope, no, nuh uh.
Because narratively it makes no sense.
My opinion is they should keep his voicelines for the memorial. Make it something special and impactful.
man. this strike is gonna be cancer on Grandmasters
We all may be sad that Cayde isn't a voice in the strike anymore, but at least we know bungie doesn't care about Hawthorne anymore
I feel bad hating on Hawthorne so much. I feel like in a way the poor VA for her is also in the firing line. Great VA bad script imo. Still... "you took down Ghaul, woke up the Traveler *slowly descends into madness and demnonic screams*"
Cute birb tho.
they barely even added anything
Health gating is trash.
Can't make a good boss? Add a health gate :))))))))
This revamp is terrible, it’s a lot longer than it was before, I hate how strikes nowadays are becoming longer
This fucks with the timeline so much, because Bracus Zhan died during the Red War and that was before the Shadow Legion was even a thing, so how are the Shadow Legion here when this strike is supposed to take place during the Red War?! 💀
read the dialogues again
Read boy
It's a successor to the original Zahn
@@chelsthegameruiner8669 Bracus Jr 💀
@@ConvergingWinter I did I just think it’s kinda stupid
I dont like it
Too many brainless AI "team mates" that get in the way, get confused for the enemy, and don't do any damage or draw the enemies fire. Otherwise, meh.