@@untoldhistory6846 Army is not as technology sensitive a Air force. Even equipping our soldiers with half decent rifles and grenades will give them a better fighting chance.
Defence Matrix - your explanation of the irregularities or waviness seen on the metal panels of INS Nilgiris is totally W-R-O-N-G ! The waviness is due to a phenomenon called 'oil canning effect'. Please be read up on the subject before making ludicrous statements that the waviness is deliberately engineered to enhance stealth!!!! There are measures that can be taken to minimise oil canning and it seems in this case either the angle of lighting of the pics appear to exaggerate the ripples or it may perhaps be that the oil canning in this ship is indeed pronounced. The USS Zumwalt - a stealth destroyer - also has some amount of waviness or ripples on her hull plates. However, it does appear to be better controlled. At least, that's what available high-res pics appear to indicate.
The last I heard that smooth finishing adds to stealth thats why they remove the things installed on the surface for example of French frigates or Swedish Visby, remove the edges or give them an angle. This type of finishing is almost on every ship being constructed maybe the steel plates being used are thinner.
Thanks for explaining the " poooooooooooooooooor" finishing of ship. Haven't seen such things on the Zumwalt class stealth destroyers of the US navy. Even the surface of our submarines are uneven and the same excuse is given for them while the submarines of US, Russia and other nations have incredibly smooth surfaces and finishing.
nope nilgiri is most likely more stealthy look at its design it looks like our destroyers now which are more stealthy btw plus shivalik was our first stealth warship so it cant be better than nilgiri
@defencematrix … can you tell why we keep mine sweeper ships in such low priority. all of these ships will become useless if a enemy comes and sets up mines in an area.
Jitna paisa ise banane me bana hai dosto finger 🤞🤞 unte paise ne socho hum kitni university bana sakte they dosto jaha se bangaldesh jaise kranti hoti dosto ..
Indian Naval units are notoriously famous for being under armed & under protected. These white elephants should have atleast as configuration: 76mm Oto Melara 16 cells Bramhos ER 32 cells VLS for Barak 8ER 8 cells VLS for 32 VL SRSAM/ESSM 16 cells VLS for VL ASROC replacing obsolete RBU6000 2 CIWS(2 Pantsir M) 2 VSHORAD l(12-16 cells Configuration) 4 Triple Torpedo tubes & Mine Rails
I don't understand why the Indian Navy insists on only 48 vls cells. Billion Dollar warships with only 48 vertical launching cells. This is just a waste of taxpayers money.
I give you another points , suppose enemy missile is realising their beam from radar to ship, for identification, but it is possible when the realising beam will 100 %bounce back from ship and it is possible when the surface of ship is flat if there is uneven which is showed in nilgiri frigate then the ray beam will be separated and not comes back to radar of missile ❤❤
😂 😂 😂 I... But this actually faulty construction.... This thing gives multiple point for reflection but one curve give only on point.... 😂 😂 😂 Sahi chotiya banatay hai tumharey tubers...
Why navy not focus on more firepower. compared to the warships displacement our warships are always low on firepower. Warships of other countries of same displacement carries more missiles and have more firepower than ours. Kolkata class destroyers are pretty huge and heavy they definitely have potential for more VLS and torpedo tubes.
Bahut umeed thi ki niligiri class frigates french italian frigates ki tarah hongey yeh tuo wohi culcutta destroyers ki tarah hi nikla . Kya fuddu look hai stealth kahan sey hai koi shape nahi lenght width sab kush hi badda hai. Puraney weapon ek radar lenza hai itly ka. Abhi india ki vlsram ka ni pta induct ki ya barak 1ki merwa rahi hai.sab h kush purana hai ek stealth shape deni thhi .kisi ki copy hi ker detey thodi change key sath. Fuddu degine
Why the design philosophy is same as the destroyers....not something new or different. Was hoping for some inspirations from Mogami and Aquitaine class frigates, atleast the mast and sensors configuration should have been a bit different.
Sorry but itne bade frigates ke liye. 76mm ke naval gun kyu use kiya ja rha hai why not 127mm and isn't ak-630 and rbu-6000 obsolete why don't we something modern than that . If we sre spending so much ehy can't we spend little bit more for improved capabilities.One more thing why these big elephants lack teeth why are they so underarmed.
Well.. In that case hamari har chotti - badi ship STEALTH hai..including VANDE BHART TRAIN..😑 (STILL IF THAT'S THE PURPOSE ATLEAST THEY CAN MAKE IT LOOK A BIT 👌.. Like some short of pattern rather than a bad looking panel of sheet metal.. 🙂
Keel laid 2017. Its 2024 for crying out L O U D !!!!! And still not commissioned !!! Absolutely Disgusting !!! Delivery delayed is corruption enhanced. Imagine how many are hanging on to wages for years for the same thing. If merchant container ships turn-around time has dropped from weeks to about 24 hours then someone plug this finance drain s h i t.
Ok ok,.i just can't stand some of these people's in comments or other platforms Some people just start ranting like they know better than expert's of that field. Lol Like you have a problem then just tell it like “opinion" or ask it as a question ❓ But some people just start like nah you're wrong. I am right. I mean, if were a navy official or from MoD. I would ”100%" take advice from a online keyboard warrior with experience of 2-3 yt videos. Ahh, Like i have an opinion, i will say it as an “opinion" *OPINION* i don't care about warships beauty and how good it looks. What I care about is robustness, fine-working and modularity. Same with other military equipments from hand-guns to artillery. From drones to fighter jets etc But its just my “opinion" nothing more.
I really beg your pardon but we must not forget that our navyl officers are not foolish as we are commenting & reading, hearing from? So-called defence analyst 😅.
We don’t need navy for Pakistan as they don’t have aircraft carrier for defense for aerial targets. Su30 with brahmos is enough. For china we are developing xluuv and buying more subs.
@@AshishBagade-hv4el google it and look closely ou will see blocky dents even in the video he compared with other ships lol. You are spreading misinformation
@@AshishBagade-hv4el just google uss Zumwalt you will blocky dents all over it in yt doesn't allow images in comment. images.app.goo.gl/t2uuMzLuFXanh9jz9. Image link
TB2 costing 2 million dollar a piece because of its small size use of composite material and tapered angular design give it a low radar cross section. One radar that was destroyed on 7 May appeared to be actively scanning just prior to supposedly being hit, although Russian units reportedly turn off their own radars to reduce the radar being detected and targeted. The drone can also be deployed within minutes and launched from a normal road.
It's hilarious that how he always compares systems with Pakistan and how India has an edge while China is thr one India should be focusing on, even they're coast guard ships are bigger then these ships. Pakistan has a defensive naval doctrine while China's is more offensive.
Coast guard ships doesn’t launch missiles or guns dude😂😂. For Pakistan we don’t even need a navy. They don’t have aircraft carrier for aerial defence. Even brahmos on su30 is enough😂😂
For Apkistan one fully loaded Kolkata class is enough ….as far as coastal guards boats are concerned you are wrong…Chinese coast guards ships are waayyy smaller than this one
@@AshishBagade-hv4el They have coast guard ships with displacement of more then 10000 tons displacement bigger then any Indian frigate or destroyer. As I mentioned Pakistan as a defensive naval doctrine and are also increasing their power.
Summary : The uneven surface finish is deliberate to reduce radar reflectivity.
No, it looks like poor finishing
@@sanatanihindu383 Zumwalt class ke ship ka close up dekhle, warna chasma lagega tujhe.
Before exporting it
Make sure it doesn’t smell like curry
@@georgestone6807 Curry is actually expensive and it's beyond the budget of broken shit mucher crackers.
They operate mig 21 because of low rcs .
Indian Navy: 😊🗿
Indian Army:😊🥸
Indian Air force: 😵💫🤡👅💀
😉as expected
Indian intelligence 🐌🐌🐌
unko koi idea hi nahi lag paa raha hai duniya me ho kya raha khaass kar wo log jo procurements department me hai.
Army ka toh aur bhi bura haal hai
@@untoldhistory6846 Army is not as technology sensitive a Air force. Even equipping our soldiers with half decent rifles and grenades will give them a better fighting chance.
Why is the AK 630 there? Ak 630 is outdated and will never save the ship from any attacks .
Neither can any ciws can😂. Its last ditch effort by any navy
if it wont gonna save the ship then what gonna save smart pant.
Really?
its just a gun the main command and guidance and firing solution is provided by the main FCR (i.e. MF Star Radar). so what is the problem with AK630 ?
Who told you ?
Jo dikhta hai woh humasa hoga aisa nahin!! This wave pattern on the ship is to make the ship more stealthy. Thank you for the explanation ❤
Defence Matrix - your explanation of the irregularities or waviness seen on the metal panels of INS Nilgiris is totally W-R-O-N-G ! The waviness is due to a phenomenon called 'oil canning effect'. Please be read up on the subject before making ludicrous statements that the waviness is deliberately engineered to enhance stealth!!!! There are measures that can be taken to minimise oil canning and it seems in this case either the angle of lighting of the pics appear to exaggerate the ripples or it may perhaps be that the oil canning in this ship is indeed pronounced. The USS Zumwalt - a stealth destroyer - also has some amount of waviness or ripples on her hull plates. However, it does appear to be better controlled. At least, that's what available high-res pics appear to indicate.
Finally she is at sea !!! Hope the others donot take too long.
We should offer our Nilgiri class frigates to Philippines, Vietnam, Brazil. Since both of these countries are interested in Brahmos 😊😊
@@sanatanihindu383 ok, Mr.armchair General!
You named three countries and write both wtf 😒
@@sanatanihindu383 They don't have better option tbh. The US has nothing like Brahmos for now
Yes they have other options .
Brazil have capability to build the frigate
Brazil build Tamandaré (F200) class frigate
The last I heard that smooth finishing adds to stealth thats why they remove the things installed on the surface for example of French frigates or Swedish Visby, remove the edges or give them an angle. This type of finishing is almost on every ship being constructed maybe the steel plates being used are thinner.
not poor finishing but excellent engineering
Thanks for explaining the " poooooooooooooooooor" finishing of ship. Haven't seen such things on the Zumwalt class stealth destroyers of the US navy. Even the surface of our submarines are uneven and the same excuse is given for them while the submarines of US, Russia and other nations have incredibly smooth surfaces and finishing.
You haven't looked properly check image from just google you will see dents on uss Zumwalt hull 🥱
Nope, zumwalt class ships also this type of wrinkled skin to reduce detection and increase stealth.
😂 😂 😂 😂 Kid search oil canning effect... Chotiya bana diya tumhain... 😂 😂 😂
Shivalik is more stealthy than Nilgiri. They ditched some stealth in P17B
Perhaps due to larger size?
nope nilgiri is most likely more stealthy look at its design it looks like our destroyers now which are more stealthy btw plus shivalik was our first stealth warship so it cant be better than nilgiri
@@varunjain-pz4fuyour second argument is useless
@defencematrix … can you tell why we keep mine sweeper ships in such low priority. all of these ships will become useless if a enemy comes and sets up mines in an area.
Jitna paisa ise banane me bana hai dosto finger 🤞🤞 unte paise ne socho hum kitni university bana sakte they dosto jaha se bangaldesh jaise kranti hoti dosto ..
Chup be… security ka kya ??
pagal hogya h kya
@@AshishBagade-hv4elsarcasm bhai 😂sarcasm smjho
@@suryanshsingh8492sarcasm 😂
What about follow on order of vishakapattam class destroyers.?
Nah its time for NGD
@@K3ppa hell yeah😊❤❤
@@anubratadas4911after 2026
Indian Naval units are notoriously famous for being under armed & under protected.
These white elephants should have atleast as configuration:
76mm Oto Melara
16 cells Bramhos ER
32 cells VLS for Barak 8ER
8 cells VLS for 32 VL SRSAM/ESSM
16 cells VLS for VL ASROC replacing obsolete RBU6000
2 CIWS(2 Pantsir M)
2 VSHORAD l(12-16 cells Configuration)
4 Triple Torpedo tubes & Mine Rails
Limited armament, i dont know why there aren't capable people to design better equipment
First understand diff between frigates and destroyer
Video ka Volume incease karo😢😢
why only 2 x AK630.
the danger from mass attack of drones is growing.
Sir , Engine, weapons, missiles , Reader , all major companies sab to imported hai , to indigenous kya hai.
@@tktechbytanmoy9347 banane ka tarika , mission control tailored for requirement.
Fault body.... 😂 😂 😂
I don't understand why the Indian Navy insists on only 48 vls cells. Billion Dollar warships with only 48 vertical launching cells. This is just a waste of taxpayers money.
Do they have anti drone protection except the main gun
10,200 km speed 😮
Indians make hypersonic frigate
And poor Pakistanis are still looking for super sonic stealth fighter jets from China
Main gun should be of 128 mm. RIM 116 Point defense system should be installed
Congratulations g 🎉
I give you another points , suppose enemy missile is realising their beam from radar to ship, for identification, but it is possible when the realising beam will 100 %bounce back from ship and it is possible when the surface of ship is flat if there is uneven which is showed in nilgiri frigate then the ray beam will be separated and not comes back to radar of missile ❤❤
😂 😂 😂 I... But this actually faulty construction.... This thing gives multiple point for reflection but one curve give only on point.... 😂 😂 😂 Sahi chotiya banatay hai tumharey tubers...
😂 😂 😂 😂... It's oil canning effect fault ko special features bana diya..... 😂 😂 😂
Doez it space for future upgrades.
Like new upcoming SRSAM.
NAVAL LRSAM.
Why navy not focus on more firepower. compared to the warships displacement our warships are always low on firepower. Warships of other countries of same displacement carries more missiles and have more firepower than ours. Kolkata class destroyers are pretty huge and heavy they definitely have potential for more VLS and torpedo tubes.
Kisi armchair expert ne oil canning ka naam nhi suna hoga
Kya india isreali radar sey aggey ni badh sakta hai her ship pey yehi radar hai. Ab tak tuo isko lhud bna letey .
Bahut umeed thi ki niligiri class frigates french italian frigates ki tarah hongey yeh tuo wohi culcutta destroyers ki tarah hi nikla . Kya fuddu look hai stealth kahan sey hai koi shape nahi lenght width sab kush hi badda hai. Puraney weapon ek radar lenza hai itly ka. Abhi india ki vlsram ka ni pta induct ki ya barak 1ki merwa rahi hai.sab h kush purana hai ek stealth shape deni thhi .kisi ki copy hi ker detey thodi change key sath. Fuddu degine
What about Anti-drone warfare because I believe it is gonna be a more severe threats than the other ones.
@@intellectualenigma It will have anti drone system from big bang boom solutions.
Why the design philosophy is same as the destroyers....not something new or different.
Was hoping for some inspirations from Mogami and Aquitaine class frigates, atleast the mast and sensors configuration should have been a bit different.
Indra is not Italian but Spanish😊
Sorry but itne bade frigates ke liye. 76mm ke naval gun kyu use kiya ja rha hai why not 127mm and isn't ak-630 and rbu-6000 obsolete why don't we something modern than that . If we sre spending so much ehy can't we spend little bit more for improved capabilities.One more thing why these big elephants lack teeth why are they so underarmed.
Well.. In that case hamari har chotti - badi ship STEALTH hai..including VANDE BHART TRAIN..😑 (STILL IF THAT'S THE PURPOSE ATLEAST THEY CAN MAKE IT LOOK A BIT 👌.. Like some short of pattern rather than a bad looking panel of sheet metal.. 🙂
Its called stressed skin construction. Bhai padhle todha kam ayega
@@K3ppait's called oil canning effect... 😂 😂 😂
Lol I was thinking it looks like made by Indian Railways... Who always have uneven panels on new trains 😅
@@suprashank it's on train to reduce drag, just like the dimples on golf balls.
Navy > Army > Air Force
True
Navy >> Army +Airforce 🙂
@@apratimpatra541💀 true
This is a worry moment seriously 🥺😨@@sameer-fk8oy
This video should have been shorts of 10 sec max
Where is our ciws and naval gun
वाह एक्सपर्ट्स😂 नेवी को आपके जैसे knowledge nahi होगा।आपका youtube यूनिवर्सिटी में नेवी वाले को पड़ना पड़ेगा😅
🤩 Nilgiri
One of the best friget🤣🤣🤣
Ok🤣Time will say everything 🤣🤣Funny Indian🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Meanwhile p0®k!€s still importing Chinese junk frigates..
Bro 8 bharmos
@@Sahilsingh_913bro we have hyper sonic.. And 3 type of super sonic.. Ab jagh ja bachay...
@@aamerjamal live in hypothetical world baby
@@Sahilsingh_913 lol... When this hypothetical world becomes reality your pilots served a fantastic tea....
Keel laid 2017. Its 2024 for crying out L O U D !!!!! And still not commissioned !!! Absolutely Disgusting !!!
Delivery delayed is corruption enhanced. Imagine how many are hanging on to wages for years for the same thing. If merchant container ships turn-around time has dropped from weeks to about 24 hours then someone plug this finance drain s h i t.
O very good
Air force need to learn from navy how to stay upto date
Faulty construction... No ciws, out dated ak630.... 😂 😂 😂 😂
Ok ok,.i just can't stand some of these people's in comments or other platforms
Some people just start ranting like they know better than expert's of that field. Lol
Like you have a problem then just tell it like “opinion" or ask it as a question ❓
But some people just start like nah you're wrong. I am right.
I mean, if were a navy official or from MoD.
I would ”100%" take advice from a online keyboard warrior with experience of 2-3 yt videos.
Ahh,
Like i have an opinion, i will say it as an “opinion"
*OPINION*
i don't care about warships beauty and how good it looks. What I care about is robustness, fine-working and modularity. Same with other military equipments from hand-guns to artillery. From drones to fighter jets etc
But its just my “opinion" nothing more.
I really beg your pardon but we must not forget that our navyl officers are not foolish as we are commenting & reading, hearing from? So-called defence analyst 😅.
Bhai compare kro toh ab china se kro ab jo powerful ban rha day by day
We don’t need navy for Pakistan as they don’t have aircraft carrier for defense for aerial targets. Su30 with brahmos is enough. For china we are developing xluuv and buying more subs.
@@K3ppa sab delay hota hai yha pr koi kaam on time nahi hai
@@K3ppa😅😅😅😅😅.... Seems like bollywood screen writer.... 😂 😂 😂
#askdefencematrix
What are your views on American f15 offer
You tubers are mode intelligent than NDB😂😂😂😂
Jai hind🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Another brahmaputra??? 🤥🤔😓
126th 😊
Navy is doing best IAF is now doing Drama IAF must learn from navy
World best frigate 😂😂😂😂
@4:55 why is the finishing like this PATHETIC…looks like a paper ship man really
It's intentional even Zumwalt has this man
@@shogun1211 wrong zumwalt doesn’t look like this…don’t spread misinformation
these are top class companies
just wait till this beast gets inducted and is used in a war
@@AshishBagade-hv4el google it and look closely ou will see blocky dents even in the video he compared with other ships lol. You are spreading misinformation
@@AshishBagade-hv4el just google uss Zumwalt you will blocky dents all over it in yt doesn't allow images in comment.
images.app.goo.gl/t2uuMzLuFXanh9jz9. Image link
Indra spanish company hai
Leave pakistan what about china
Give some orders to l&t as well and then compare build quality
Its stressed skin construction bhai. First learn about it
Video toh pura dekh le bkl
@@Vartik-jr4qrit's oil canning effect means faulty construction not some hi fi magic stealth.... 😂 😂 😂 Sahi chay banatey hai.
Can nilgiri frigates can save himself from kamikaze drone.....drone is a big threat against drone
TB2 costing 2 million dollar a piece because of its small size use of composite material and tapered angular design give it a low radar cross section. One radar that was destroyed on 7 May appeared to be actively scanning just prior to supposedly being hit, although Russian units reportedly turn off their own radars to reduce the radar being detected and targeted. The drone can also be deployed within minutes and launched from a normal road.
very poor finishing...
Duniya ki 😂😂😂😂😂
Use ziada sofiestigated Mera nao he
Woh Nao Jo China ki factory se ban Kar ati hain.
It's hilarious that how he always compares systems with Pakistan and how India has an edge while China is thr one India should be focusing on, even they're coast guard ships are bigger then these ships. Pakistan has a defensive naval doctrine while China's is more offensive.
Coast guard ships doesn’t launch missiles or guns dude😂😂. For Pakistan we don’t even need a navy. They don’t have aircraft carrier for aerial defence. Even brahmos on su30 is enough😂😂
For Apkistan one fully loaded Kolkata class is enough ….as far as coastal guards boats are concerned you are wrong…Chinese coast guards ships are waayyy smaller than this one
@@AshishBagade-hv4el They have coast guard ships with displacement of more then 10000 tons displacement bigger then any Indian frigate or destroyer. As I mentioned Pakistan as a defensive naval doctrine and are also increasing their power.
The point here is not the displacement
It is the self sufficiency
Not like china' s reverse engineered products
@@madhavindian1609 Bro they are competing with US with that reverse engineered technology.
Waste of money
Itna kachra bhar rakha he navy he ki kabari ka dukan
@@NadeemQureshi-lb7ln Don't cry Bhikmanga...😂
अरे रे
Indian Navy use outdated Ak 630 in 2024🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1st view
1st
PAKISTAN😎🇵🇰Zindabad❤
Cancer pak
bhikari aagaya
Freedom for Balochistan 😂😂😂
😂😂😂