Hip hop fans always expose the bubble they live in when it comes to music. Lmao Sabrina literally has 3 top 10 singles at the moment. Of course she is currently the hottest pop act atm…She isn’t bigger than Travis, but she did establish a big fanbase after touring with Taylor Swift
@@rickyronny4019 it's the difference between getting a headstart in your carreer from a famous pop artist the 14 year old girls would die for and doing it mostly by yourself starting from 0. Now there is nothing wring with getting a headstart, it's just a bit cringe if you're almost losing to a 10 year old mixtape and proceed to flex about it
It seems to be an issue that permeates the rap genre. Way too many hyper sensitive people in the industry. Look at how petty and childish Drake has been
Maybe I'm not fully aware of what's been said, but I don't really see the big deal in comparing them. Travis is a big act and has been bigger for longer, so he can do shit like rerelease an old mixtape and sell hundreds of thousands of copies and almost go number one. Great for him. Sabrina just got poppin this year and can finally sell as much as the biggest industry acts and go number one. Great for her. I don't see how the narrative is "she still can't do shit compared to Travis" when she's having a breakthrough year. Ok cool, Travis is bigger still...Is it the semantics of calling Sabrina "a number one pop act"? Her singles had been topping the charts and her album was highly anticipated, so it's not that crazy...sure if we're using the last album as a reference point she isn't, but she's clearly in a different stratosphere now. I agree the Nicki stuff is shady though
Bro they both were finessing. Smooth brain people calling her an industry plant. Not to mention what Travis did was like Michael Jackson dropping a greatest hits or anniversary album.
@@nightrunner7870 Not really an industry plant when she’s been making music for years and has maintained a pretty niche audience. Honestly, she used to be an actress, so her having connections is nothing out of the ordinary.
Before she was good she has massive capital pushing her down our throats. She might not be a complete industry plant, but the industry REALLY wants us to like her. And I think all this info shows that Travis is far in front of her. She is gaining traction Ill say that
Looking at the bigger picture this competition benefited both artists. A "Battle for number 1" activates both artists fan bases to buy physical copies. A lot of big names try to release their project on weeks with no other big releases so they can get number 1. I think labels need to capitalize on this "battle for number 1" it is great for promotion and sales.
This is hating take cause you are discrediting Sabrina as an artist. She kept grinding for years and kept going her tenacity is what people respect. She didn't need Nicki for anything Taylor already gave her a boost by having her open for the eras tour. The ladies have been dominating the music landscape with the exception of Morgan Wallen.
@@jghifiversveiws8729 are you referring to me? My daughter used to watch her on Girl Meets World please stop lol It's called knowing about music, entertainment and pop culture. Not trying to age myself but I'm grown asf 😂😂😂
@@jghifiversveiws8729 it’s true tho Sabrina’s album is still no1 weeks later, Travis fell off, I don’t get how you people can’t understand what’s hot in mainstream music constantly changes, she’s hot his yesterday news all you d**k riders need grass.
Y'all talking about 10 year Mixtape But that doesn't really matter because she's just become mainstream While he's been mainstream for years had 1 of the biggest debuts And has a huge fan base when she just started getting Recognizing For her work Show her beating 1 of the biggest Phenomenon
Don't get me wrong I love Travis & all his music but with this logic anyone can re-release an album and take over the charts... I feel Sabrina had an amazing album (granted not what I'd go for but still humor me) but Travis releasing DAYS BEFORE RODEO seemed like a cop out just to have a project out this year & personally I would've loved a Utopia Deluxe or a Jackboys 2 (which I believe is confirmed) but to do this seems lousy he didn't even label it as a remastered or a re-release so if anyone who's not in the loop like that listens (new fans) they'd be under the assumption that it's all new. And again there's nothing at all wrong with an anniversary album but to market it with no context just because you want a project out a year after what's your biggest project today is just lazy at best. And that sucks to say cause Travis is such a badass artist but Sabrina being a huge act this year more than deserved the #1 and it sucks that Travis robbed her of that just to get a 2024 release it's just sad man Sabrina needs room to breathe and that's not gonna happen for her or any other artist if they're being smothered by re-releases of projects that are a decade old at this point like what's next we get a re-release of Astroworld like come on travis give us us something new to give a shit about not everyone can relive those special moments give us new ones unless you're just all burnt out and washed up...
It is not a re-release, it was never on streaming services, this is like when Lil Wayne's No Ceilings finally came to streaming. And no, 99% of artists can't do this because they use the same exact tactics with NEW music and still only sell 30k total because their fanbase is not that strong.
@@SaintFr33wayyY'all learned the word industry plant and never shut tf up afterwards ! Funny how travis was called in industry plant for years too but seems like you forgot One google search and you'll see how she got her foot in the industry and how she got a record deal as part of her contract with Disney just like any other disney star Y'all just butthurt she put down the autotune man that's why y'all are punching the air for almost 3 weeks His album dropped to n30 meanwhile she's still number 1 let that sink in or cry about it , it helps
@@CalvinLangatMMA well she’s still there and the fact that y’all never address the fact that Travis’ sales dropped by 90%+ the follow and is dwindling down the charts but Sabrina is stable let’s me know HITSDD was right he was trying so hard to go #1 but Sabrina and the fans stopped him and her album is still stable
TBF Sabrina Carpenter _is_ the moment. She’s become Pop’s new “it-girl”. Short n Sweet opened 135K higher than Ariana Grande’s album. I expected her songs to blow up after “thumbs” in 2016 but she lost momentum and didn’t get it back until “skin”, “nonsense” and “feather”. Then *she opened for Taylor on the eras tour and went viral (that’s your blind spot HY)* She’s been on fire ever since.
Honestly regardless of what your taste is as far as music, the bottom line is that Sabrina is CURRENTLY more sought after than Travis is because she just had a very successful debut. ALL THREE of her singles are in the top 5 on the Billboard Hot 100. All this talk about, “she only won because blah blah blah” isn’t accurate to anyone who is keeping up with the music scene currently. Pop GIRLS, are dominating the charts rn, that’s not a fan opinion, it’s just factual. Not to mention Sabrina’s album is currently still No. 1 for the third week in a row and Travis’ album dropped to No. 30 in the second week. None of the points made in this video hold any weight when you consider that.
I have an interesting take on this: If Rodeo was the album to come back to streaming platforms, then Sabrina would have had no chance competing with that and would have genuinely got sad... This is coming from someone who easily gives Sabrina the pass in her victory.
What are you talking about his pure sales where 29k And which is the very low for artist who has been mainstream for years and had 1 of the biggest debuts also Travis scot Didn't have any songs charting After hitting #2 for a reason especially since he has a big fan base and he's just become mainstream The excuses are funny from people like you saying what if this happened or that Travis still Not getting the #1 because he would still have low sales also rap It's becoming irrelevant only rap song that's doing well is not like us It went #1 3 times bubut that's the only one
@@SarahYusra-s7l I LITERALLY JUST SAID SABRINA DESERVED THE WIN, WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT? I'm not even talking about DBR...Rodeo had too many classics that could have competed with Sabrina's Big 3 and would have been the talk for weeks, not forgetting the features more than the mixtape. This is MY PERSPECTIVE...STOP TRYING TO BE INTERNET PEOPLE WHO ATTACK OTHERS FOR NOT HAVING THE SAME THOUGHTS AND FEELS AS YOU🤦
@@GerminaTosic I’m not sure what this has to do with what I just said but ok. Nowhere in my comment did I deny that Travis is a big artist, undoubtedly bigger than Sabrina, but she is CURRENTLY more sought after in the CURRENT music climate. That is why she went No. 1 and he didn’t. Simple as that. No one is talking about stadium tours vs arena tours because that’s not the conversation we are having. Tap in and then circle back to me, cause you being a fan of Travis doesn’t dispute what I just said.
I was big surprised since I just heard of her and found out she has 85M a month worth of streams. She is pretty big I really never heard any of her songs except when it got in fortnight.
valid glaze tho. the "hottest" pop star did all that sales promotion even going as far to use the barbs... just to almost lose to a 10 year old mixtape with very little promotion behind its release. and there was still speculation of fowl play at billboard by the end of it
@@ohnojojo19 Is it that valid though? Travis is still a bigger act than sabrina overall. Even if she squeezed out the win it’s a w. Plus travis dropped all the way to like 26 in the second week, while she stays at 1.
If he is the biggest act why can't he try and why was his presales 29And yeah obviously she just became mainstream And he's been mainstream for years So that's not a drag or whatever you say
How did she use the barbs ur dumb and The 10 year Mixtape Thing is so weird because he's been mainstream for years and had 1 of the biggest tour You're comparing him to a artist who just became mainstream And acting like acting like That's a drag or something
travis’ first week numbers were definitely faked bc he had the biggest second week drop ever for an album this decade while sabrina is the biggest industry plant with forced virility so she can maintain her spot easy
@@wooyaa8152 no its was not it was from bundles selling t shirts hats and hoodie he only stream 35k first week 29k second week with bundles fell off the third sale Sabrina actual sells pure albums
She That means he's a flop Because which popular artist Is relying on Spotify streams Or payola But that's a different conversation for a different day Yeah so you're just saying that his music can't sell
@@SarahYusra-s7l I’m not saying his music don’t sell Im saying he uses bundles to help him sell more records and have bigger numbers than he actually have like his album utopia sold 250k albums streams but did 496k because his sold 146k t shirts hats and hoodies not the same as selling actual albums he cheat to make it look like he’s actually doing big numbers days after rodeo sold 30K streams the first week but sold 361k because of bundles he can’t sell straight albums he cheats and I like his music but telling the truth is not lying
I think you're denying Sabrina's current success in order to defend Travis. This whole thing is just sad and childish. All of these artists mentioned were acting like spoiled brats and lying to make themselves look better than the others. That being said, I do agree that it's impressive for Travis to go #1 with a 10 year old project. All it really shows is that he's been a lot more successful than Sabrina for a long time.
Her album is about to remain in the number 1 position for the 3rd consecutive week Meanwhile his album dropped to number 30 I repeat 30 ( the fall should be studied ) on the second week Meanwhile this page still hasn't been able to move one and let go He's still trying to come up with conspiracies as to why his fav tanked Brother cope it's ok
There's nothing to study about the fall really. It's a 10 year old project, were people really expecting it to do Astroworld numbers? Travis fans are just blowing this out of proportion
The utopia point makes no sense he’s been one of the top artists in the industry for years and has also been backed by the industry like crazy just like Sabrina this year it’s not a shock it sold more and I don’t even listen to her album but it’s her first big album it makes sense that it didn’t sell even crazier than it did and her last album sold 18k yes but it’s on 2.7B streams now
Did you just spend the last 30 minutes defending the bullshitery going on in the billboards? Seriously? You really down in your heart believe that's a healthy way to push ART? You're the type of guy to listen to a song, then be like let me check where it's at on the billboards before saying if you like it or not.
@@HYextra selling shit that isn't music and counting it as a music sale is bullshit. You said how they're doing it on your video. Should start calling ya Ak
Tbh I feel travis scott is blessed and has alot of success i dont think travis should care and just continue and his music and his foundation as a artist because he is that good Him and Kendrick is the Only people right now that has a fan base that would die on a hill for them in the He wins the War long term in terms of longevity
Sabrina won let it go. She’s the bigger artist right this moment I don’t get why this is so hard to understand. Her album is still number 1 weeks later, his record has dropped off heaps, billboard didn’t get it wrong.
@@THAPOKEPINBALLER today possibly not I’m not denying his a big artist or a bigger artist, but it’s naive to shit on Sabrina and her chart success this year.
Travis and Sabrina have 4 degrees of seperation, She has a song with Alan Walker, Alan Walker has a song with Ava Max, Ava Max has a song with Saweetie, Saweetie has a song with Quavo and Quavo has an Album with Travis Scott
physical album sales are records sold to record stores not to the public . the shop buys the albums and sells them to the public . how do you not know this ? a record label can sell 1 million albums to Walmart and if only 1 person buys 1 album then the artist has still sold 1 million albums . have you never seen a sale bin of albums a shop cant sell ? the rules exist to stop record label people from going into the shop and buying the album then selling them back to the shops to inflate numbers . another way to inflate physical numbers besides bundling them with tshirts , posters, concert tickets is to have fake shops make orders or for labels have contacts in record stores that place orders for albums in the week of release like the last day , then after those album sales are counted for charts and before the physical records are delivered the order gets canceled . but the sales dont get taken off that weeks chart . that is the reason why billboard probably didnt count his record labels claims that on the very last day, in the very last hour , his record label just happened to sell just the right amount of albums ,to a mysterious buyer , to just push his number to the number one slot . you need to know how this game was always played . you actually think one physical album sale means one fan bought a album and took it home ? do you not know all those sales numbers include all the cds sitting on shop shelves ? so what was the second week , third week sale numbers then ? canceled orders and full stock rooms
@@HYextra then why are they exactly even numbers. Any where that sells albums in bulk like vinal is either outright bough by the shop or sale or return . Lots of artists operate a online store that buys physical albums from the label in bulk and then they sell to the public direct online. It's not the actual label selling direct to consumers . The online store still has a stock in a wear house that they purchased from record labels. Same with tshirts and posters . There is no way a competent manager and artists is going to take a percentage split on the album being sold by a label in the label own online store when they can take a 30% cut of the top by owning their own online store . I would put money on travis owning his own website and online shop and it not being owned by a record label . Even RUclipsrs have their own online shop . In UK we still have record stores , maybe it's very different in USA, not like it used to be , but they still operate that old way and still count for a real percentage of charts
There are still many ways to game numbers. My point is most people think streams are unreliable and physical is real , they think every album counted as a sale to one consumer, and it's never been that
well if we are going to count bundles. you might as well count merch at this point. Very few people play these and next to no one only listens to them on that format. Vinyls are a form of memorabilia at this point. same with CD's and anything else that way.
I'm conflicted, but Travis proved me wrong a few times, so I'm rocking with him. Mainly cause he's making the right moves and making great music while doing it. If you don't respect it, you just hating. Granted, everyone has their shit but the industry is gonna go shit the more hate get thrown around cause of jealousy and ego.
Who said she Couldn't and he had low sales For artist that's been mainstream for how long He only sold 29 k That says a lot and Sabrina has sold out stadiums Obviously you're not keeping up if you actually believe
@@SarahYusra-s7lshe has a fan base already but she’s still up and coming. Love her album but I’m really questioning how long she can hold on for. She’s already proved she has potential in mainstream.
18:44 I’m not mad at the debate raised here of streams vs sales, bc If the charts are meant to reflect the music the majority are consuming: Streaming accounts for *84%* of recorded music consumption - around 10-12% of consumption is coming from physical sales. *Why should a strong seller but weak streamer get no.1 when physical sales are only 10% of the market?* It’s a fair question! 🤔 At the end of the day, the Billboard charts are now *consumption* charts rather than *sales* charts, and we either them to reflect what the MAJORITY of ppl are consuming, or we don’t. 🤷🏾♂️
Sabrina tried to inherit a beef that died a long time ago 😂 wasn’t Travis Scott on the FTCU Remix. Bruh 😂😂 Sabrina definitely knew it was gonna catch attention from the people
All of the countries you mentioned about Sabrina Carpenter are Countries RUclips Automatically selects as options to advertise too when you try to promote your videos LOL. You can't make this up. Also the majority of them come from India, Probably bots, which is weird because RUclips is promoting it.
Travis should honestly fire shots after this disrespect, his image cant turn soft. One time he was the bigger man/person, the second time Nickis pettiness should have consequences. Also she showed with the interview etc. that she exactly knows what shes doing and that Travis had a right to be upset the first time, this males this even worse
Sabrina's tweet was probably a joke and maybe attempt to get Barbz to buy her record. Travis didn't seem to take it as an insult, as far as I can tell. Travis shouldn't take any crap off this, but it seems like his people misread the rules wrong or missed a deadline and hers didn't. Both were finessing, as is fine. Whatever her other albums sold or her listener count was before, she's legit become one of the hottest acts this year.
Kendrick’s 2 minute un named “let the party die” drop had way more impact than anything these 2 dropped. Travis the 1 trick pony ”rapper” if he can even be considered that, and Sabrina carpenter the “industry boosted to shit” wannabe “Taylor”. I remember the day so well, on both Apple Music and Spotify surprisingly not RUclips music (yes I pay all 3 instead of tv stream subs) started promoting Sabrina and Travis, I was so lost with Sabrina though because she hadn’t been anywhere near a spotlight in years, and Travis well sings the same dogshit since November 5, 2021, dude going “uhhhhhhhhh” with a white glove and making strange ahh noises then acting like he didn’t sell his soul, Kanye being the only deranged man to defend him prob offered him 7 cases of galaxy gas smh
Its impressive how a 10 years ago mixtape
Competing
With the recent
Pop albums
And also coming up on #1
Honestly Nicki is such a child
No She’s not.
She continues to do slimey shii
makes sense considering her husband likes kids
@@c-anime23shut up
@@c-anime23Explain 7:15 then
auto tune man killed me 😭😭
looks like your'e voice sounds like heaven,lol.
nicki just acting like a baby bruh
yea that shit was hilarious 😂😂😂
I still haven’t heard a single song from that Nicki “Queen” album lmao
yes u have..💀 chun li, good form
@@kimendable nope, sorry 🤷🏽
Same haha
Even me😂😂
😄come i dont listen to her but people know barbie dream and chun li
Nah that thumbnail wild 💀
lmao fr
Hip hop fans always expose the bubble they live in when it comes to music. Lmao Sabrina literally has 3 top 10 singles at the moment. Of course she is currently the hottest pop act atm…She isn’t bigger than Travis, but she did establish a big fanbase after touring with Taylor Swift
she is sucha lifeless popstar... so generic
@@nababo21she seems fine to me. I don’t see what’s wrong with her
@@rickyronny4019 it's the difference between getting a headstart in your carreer from a famous pop artist the 14 year old girls would die for and doing it mostly by yourself starting from 0. Now there is nothing wring with getting a headstart, it's just a bit cringe if you're almost losing to a 10 year old mixtape and proceed to flex about it
@@TygeauOfficial People acknowledge her working with taylor yet not how much work it took to even get to that point.
We're not saying she's not big. We're saying her music is mid.
Nicki is too damn old to be this annoying
Midlife crisis & narcissism
It seems to be an issue that permeates the rap genre. Way too many hyper sensitive people in the industry. Look at how petty and childish Drake has been
Sabrina got that unseasoned chicken ahh music
I beg to differ
@@xo.frommarsi beg to diffagree
Mayo chicken ahh music 😂
Boiled chicken ahh music
It's definitely mid no deep lyrics or anything just folklore shit
Maybe I'm not fully aware of what's been said, but I don't really see the big deal in comparing them. Travis is a big act and has been bigger for longer, so he can do shit like rerelease an old mixtape and sell hundreds of thousands of copies and almost go number one. Great for him. Sabrina just got poppin this year and can finally sell as much as the biggest industry acts and go number one. Great for her. I don't see how the narrative is "she still can't do shit compared to Travis" when she's having a breakthrough year. Ok cool, Travis is bigger still...Is it the semantics of calling Sabrina "a number one pop act"? Her singles had been topping the charts and her album was highly anticipated, so it's not that crazy...sure if we're using the last album as a reference point she isn't, but she's clearly in a different stratosphere now. I agree the Nicki stuff is shady though
Holy yap
@@NotAlex420 fr lmao
Its ye vs tailor type shit its war
but the album was actually so garbage:)
Bro they both were finessing. Smooth brain people calling her an industry plant. Not to mention what Travis did was like Michael Jackson dropping a greatest hits or anniversary album.
She is a industry plant lol, the mouse is literally behind her
@@nightrunner7870 she left Disney records years ago. Get your facts straight.
@@kkrezagang4606 bro has no idea what goes behind the scenes
@@nightrunner7870 Not really an industry plant when she’s been making music for years and has maintained a pretty niche audience. Honestly, she used to be an actress, so her having connections is nothing out of the ordinary.
Before she was good she has massive capital pushing her down our throats. She might not be a complete industry plant, but the industry REALLY wants us to like her. And I think all this info shows that Travis is far in front of her. She is gaining traction Ill say that
He just knows how to play the games, his team for sure working over time and I'm with it
She’s about to have her third week with the number one album. What are we doing here?
You throwing that clip of the old Ak video made me so nostalgic. His videos were so good but he stopped doing them cause clip streams are easier
Looking at the bigger picture this competition benefited both artists. A "Battle for number 1" activates both artists fan bases to buy physical copies. A lot of big names try to release their project on weeks with no other big releases so they can get number 1. I think labels need to capitalize on this "battle for number 1" it is great for promotion and sales.
No lie rap has way more replayability because if your listening to a good rapper there might be stuff that flies over your head the first listen
same with pop
@@Finn-bw4omnah bro. You saying pop is lyrical? There if anything a handful of popstars that do that and have branched out…. But no bro
@@danbautista2070then you Clearly don’t listen to music beyond hip hop because there is a lot of clever Lyricism in pop records.
@@danbautista2070 they both have replayability
@@c-anime23 it's not that deep but the lyrics aren't much of a factor in replayability it's either enjoyable or not.
This is hating take cause you are discrediting Sabrina as an artist. She kept grinding for years and kept going her tenacity is what people respect. She didn't need Nicki for anything Taylor already gave her a boost by having her open for the eras tour. The ladies have been dominating the music landscape with the exception of Morgan Wallen.
You sound like you get all of your opinions from twitter
@@jghifiversveiws8729don’t mind him he has a smooth brain
@@jghifiversveiws8729 are you referring to me? My daughter used to watch her on Girl Meets World please stop lol It's called knowing about music, entertainment and pop culture. Not trying to age myself but I'm grown asf 😂😂😂
@@jghifiversveiws8729 it’s true tho Sabrina’s album is still no1 weeks later, Travis fell off, I don’t get how you people can’t understand what’s hot in mainstream music constantly changes, she’s hot his yesterday news all you d**k riders need grass.
@@Tswazy2 What does age have to do with where it sounds like you get your opinions from?
Bro be using that “no diddy” line way too freely now
Vro I started dying when u said Sabrina carpenter 0:32
Save me Nicki Minaj Chan! Travis Scott is too strong! I'm a fraud!
Being honest here, Sabrina deserved the win over DBR. Now, if it was Rodeo re-releasing this year, the narrative shifts like crazy.
Fr
You are criminally underrated
That thumbnail is diabolical 😭 dont do my girl like that 😂😭
A little shit crown for the queen
Y'all talking about 10 year Mixtape But that doesn't really matter because she's just become mainstream While he's been mainstream for years had 1 of the biggest debuts And has a huge fan base when she just started getting Recognizing For her work Show her beating 1 of the biggest Phenomenon
Sabrinas ‘espresso’ song gets stuck in my head like crazy
The thumbnail is devious
*in the red queen’s voice*- off with her head!!!
Don't get me wrong I love Travis & all his music but with this logic anyone can re-release an album and take over the charts... I feel Sabrina had an amazing album (granted not what I'd go for but still humor me) but Travis releasing DAYS BEFORE RODEO seemed like a cop out just to have a project out this year & personally I would've loved a Utopia Deluxe or a Jackboys 2 (which I believe is confirmed) but to do this seems lousy he didn't even label it as a remastered or a re-release so if anyone who's not in the loop like that listens (new fans) they'd be under the assumption that it's all new. And again there's nothing at all wrong with an anniversary album but to market it with no context just because you want a project out a year after what's your biggest project today is just lazy at best. And that sucks to say cause Travis is such a badass artist but Sabrina being a huge act this year more than deserved the #1 and it sucks that Travis robbed her of that just to get a 2024 release it's just sad man Sabrina needs room to breathe and that's not gonna happen for her or any other artist if they're being smothered by re-releases of projects that are a decade old at this point like what's next we get a re-release of Astroworld like come on travis give us us something new to give a shit about not everyone can relive those special moments give us new ones unless you're just all burnt out and washed up...
It is not a re-release, it was never on streaming services, this is like when Lil Wayne's No Ceilings finally came to streaming. And no, 99% of artists can't do this because they use the same exact tactics with NEW music and still only sell 30k total because their fanbase is not that strong.
Conclusion; if travis woulv'e dropped a new album,it would have blown sabrina out of water, she's lucky this time,bc it was a 10 year old mixtape.
The thumbnail 😂😂😂
Bruh grabbed her like a bunny
Bro you are hating she was with Disney 10 years then release 5 album is 2023 when Sabrina starting get bigger
The epitome of generic... And her aunt is Nancy Cartwright... Bart Simpson and a scientologist. Yada yada yada, industry plant.
@@SaintFr33wayyY'all learned the word industry plant and never shut tf up afterwards ! Funny how travis was called in industry plant for years too but seems like you forgot
One google search and you'll see how she got her foot in the industry and how she got a record deal as part of her contract with Disney just like any other disney star
Y'all just butthurt she put down the autotune man that's why y'all are punching the air for almost 3 weeks
His album dropped to n30 meanwhile she's still number 1 let that sink in or
cry about it , it helps
She was the hottest pop act THIS YEAR bro reading comprehension skills and she literally has 3 songs currently in the top 10 the hate is crazy
😂😂😂 nah fr and I can’t even name a song but she’s definitely up there ATM
She is but a lot of it is still manufactured. Still not impressive that she barely beat Travis she should’ve easily got that #1.
A modern top 10 record lowkey ain't the same in the streaming era. But I think I heard 2 and enjoyed them
@@LITLPoett exactly bro
@@CalvinLangatMMA well she’s still there and the fact that y’all never address the fact that Travis’ sales dropped by 90%+ the follow and is dwindling down the charts but Sabrina is stable let’s me know HITSDD was right he was trying so hard to go #1 but Sabrina and the fans stopped him and her album is still stable
TBF Sabrina Carpenter _is_ the moment. She’s become Pop’s new “it-girl”. Short n Sweet opened 135K higher than Ariana Grande’s album. I expected her songs to blow up after “thumbs” in 2016 but she lost momentum and didn’t get it back until “skin”, “nonsense” and “feather”. Then *she opened for Taylor on the eras tour and went viral (that’s your blind spot HY)* She’s been on fire ever since.
Honestly regardless of what your taste is as far as music, the bottom line is that Sabrina is CURRENTLY more sought after than Travis is because she just had a very successful debut. ALL THREE of her singles are in the top 5 on the Billboard Hot 100. All this talk about, “she only won because blah blah blah” isn’t accurate to anyone who is keeping up with the music scene currently. Pop GIRLS, are dominating the charts rn, that’s not a fan opinion, it’s just factual. Not to mention Sabrina’s album is currently still No. 1 for the third week in a row and Travis’ album dropped to No. 30 in the second week. None of the points made in this video hold any weight when you consider that.
I have an interesting take on this:
If Rodeo was the album to come back to streaming platforms, then Sabrina would have had no chance competing with that and would have genuinely got sad...
This is coming from someone who easily gives Sabrina the pass in her victory.
What are you talking about his pure sales where 29k And which is the very low for artist who has been mainstream for years and had 1 of the biggest debuts also Travis scot Didn't have any songs charting After hitting #2 for a reason especially since he has a big fan base and he's just become mainstream The excuses are funny from people like you saying what if this happened or that Travis still Not getting the #1 because he would still have low sales also rap It's becoming irrelevant only rap song that's doing well is not like us It went #1 3 times bubut that's the only one
@@SarahYusra-s7l I LITERALLY JUST SAID SABRINA DESERVED THE WIN, WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?
I'm not even talking about DBR...Rodeo had too many classics that could have competed with Sabrina's Big 3 and would have been the talk for weeks, not forgetting the features more than the mixtape.
This is MY PERSPECTIVE...STOP TRYING TO BE INTERNET PEOPLE WHO ATTACK OTHERS FOR NOT HAVING THE SAME THOUGHTS AND FEELS AS YOU🤦
Sabrina is about to go on an arena tour while Travis is doing stadiums that break Taylor swifts attendance. Pls get out of your bubble.
@@GerminaTosic I’m not sure what this has to do with what I just said but ok. Nowhere in my comment did I deny that Travis is a big artist, undoubtedly bigger than Sabrina, but she is CURRENTLY more sought after in the CURRENT music climate. That is why she went No. 1 and he didn’t. Simple as that. No one is talking about stadium tours vs arena tours because that’s not the conversation we are having. Tap in and then circle back to me, cause you being a fan of Travis doesn’t dispute what I just said.
I was big surprised since I just heard of her and found out she has 85M a month worth of streams. She is pretty big I really never heard any of her songs except when it got in fortnight.
You glazing hard on this one though
valid glaze tho. the "hottest" pop star did all that sales promotion even going as far to use the barbs... just to almost lose to a 10 year old mixtape with very little promotion behind its release. and there was still speculation of fowl play at billboard by the end of it
@@ohnojojo19 Is it that valid though? Travis is still a bigger act than sabrina overall. Even if she squeezed out the win it’s a w. Plus travis dropped all the way to like 26 in the second week, while she stays at 1.
@@ohnojojo19Sabrina’s album was highly anticipated Travis didn’t have a chance I’m shocked he was actually that close week 1
If he is the biggest act why can't he try and why was his presales 29And yeah obviously she just became mainstream And he's been mainstream for years So that's not a drag or whatever you say
How did she use the barbs ur dumb and The 10 year Mixtape Thing is so weird because he's been mainstream for years and had 1 of the biggest tour You're comparing him to a artist who just became mainstream And acting like acting like That's a drag or something
she won the war #1 for 3 weeks travis second week sales were 29k
travis’ first week numbers were definitely faked bc he had the biggest second week drop ever for an album this decade while sabrina is the biggest industry plant with forced virility so she can maintain her spot easy
That’s because the sales weren’t really from the streams it was from pure album sales. It was bound to fall off after the first week
@@wooyaa8152 no its was not it was from bundles selling t shirts hats and hoodie he only stream 35k first week 29k second week with bundles fell off the third sale Sabrina actual sells pure albums
She That means he's a flop Because which popular artist Is relying on Spotify streams Or payola But that's a different conversation for a different day Yeah so you're just saying that his music can't sell
@@SarahYusra-s7l I’m not saying his music don’t sell Im saying he uses bundles to help him sell more records and have bigger numbers than he actually have like his album utopia sold 250k albums streams but did 496k because his sold 146k t shirts hats and hoodies not the same as selling actual albums he cheat to make it look like he’s actually doing big numbers days after rodeo sold 30K streams the first week but sold 361k because of bundles he can’t sell straight albums he cheats and I like his music but telling the truth is not lying
"Drake is so much bigger" 🤔... Yikes 😬 ayoooooooooooo you know that deserves a pause 💀
Oh god .. let me check this out
That why travis the goat the goat 🔥🔥🔥🔥🐐
Kendrick the goat get fr
@@TheReesejr him too 🔥
My nigga 😎😎😎😎
@@Devondavis-fm2dzfax!
He's a flop
My guy is a 10 yr old album and their having trouble competing 😂 whats up with nicki always dropping around Travis release date
I think you're denying Sabrina's current success in order to defend Travis. This whole thing is just sad and childish. All of these artists mentioned were acting like spoiled brats and lying to make themselves look better than the others. That being said, I do agree that it's impressive for Travis to go #1 with a 10 year old project. All it really shows is that he's been a lot more successful than Sabrina for a long time.
You say that like Travis isn't one of the popstars too
No he isnt
@@vijayachalla8002 yes, he is.
>"he's a popstar"
>"No he isn't"
>"Nuh uh"
>Refuses to elaborate
@@borbyno7521 how much elaboration does it need? He makes pop songs, he's a pop star.
@@Demyk7lmfao
Why is chick from girl meets world battling the mcdonald’s fortnite guy?
Her album is about to remain in the number 1 position for the 3rd consecutive week
Meanwhile his album dropped to number 30 I repeat 30 ( the fall should be studied ) on the second week
Meanwhile this page still hasn't been able to move one and let go
He's still trying to come up with conspiracies as to why his fav tanked
Brother cope it's ok
Meanwhile its a 10 year album crazy he went toe to toe with her in the first place the way her fans hype this industry plant up
@@sloppyvm7110he ended up 1 check the stats 😂
@@Loading1222industry plant is wild when she’s nothing close to industry plant
There's nothing to study about the fall really. It's a 10 year old project, were people really expecting it to do Astroworld numbers? Travis fans are just blowing this out of proportion
@@kusanali3950😂😂😂
The utopia point makes no sense he’s been one of the top artists in the industry for years and has also been backed by the industry like crazy just like Sabrina this year it’s not a shock it sold more and I don’t even listen to her album but it’s her first big album it makes sense that it didn’t sell even crazier than it did and her last album sold 18k yes but it’s on 2.7B streams now
The rant was funny😂
Did you just spend the last 30 minutes defending the bullshitery going on in the billboards? Seriously? You really down in your heart believe that's a healthy way to push ART? You're the type of guy to listen to a song, then be like let me check where it's at on the billboards before saying if you like it or not.
Selling music is not BS.
@@HYextra selling shit that isn't music and counting it as a music sale is bullshit. You said how they're doing it on your video. Should start calling ya Ak
Though all Travis sold was music😭
Be Travis Scott only sold 29k How do you expect that to go #1
@@HYextraTravis was scamming just like he always does.
Tbh I feel travis scott is blessed and has alot of success i dont think travis should care and just continue and his music and his foundation as a artist because he is that good Him and Kendrick is the Only people right now that has a fan base that would die on a hill for them in the He wins the War long term in terms of longevity
Longevity he can't even get a #1 and sold it 29K And is getting mad at record labels They don't Control who buys the music
i didn't even hear about this chick till this shit happened
I was about to say people getting lit in Jakarta only to find out is just bot scammers.😂
Whens the Indonesian tours😂
I've been listening to Sabrina sincee I was a kid and I'm so happy she had her moment, I don't really listen to Travis but Bro has bangers.
Man no lie I wish people would run up my music more often it would be dope to see my name pop up in vids
The thumbnail needs to be seen by Sabrina
Travis Scott needs to see the charts which he's mixtape went to number 30 in a week
@@SarahYusra-s7l prob his worst album/mixtape.
With all due respect that thumbnail is in poor taste. It's giving Kathy Griffin with Donald Trump head.
doesn’t even need to be said but just common knowledge Travis >>> Nicki not even close
If there was no bundle Travis Scott would have sold 30k just streams and you can look that up so what are you talking about
Sabrina won let it go. She’s the bigger artist right this moment I don’t get why this is so hard to understand. Her album is still number 1 weeks later, his record has dropped off heaps, billboard didn’t get it wrong.
Bigger artiste 😂😂
@@THAPOKEPINBALLER lol I’m content with that, just saying stop looking for reasons why Travis didn’t go number 1 with a 10 year record.
@@jwang7753 do you think she would of beat a brand new Travis Scott album?
@@THAPOKEPINBALLER today possibly not I’m not denying his a big artist or a bigger artist, but it’s naive to shit on Sabrina and her chart success this year.
@@jwang7753 she definitely has a bigger fan base now but idk if she could pull what Travis does on a brand new album.
Travis and Sabrina have 4 degrees of seperation, She has a song with Alan Walker, Alan Walker has a song with Ava Max, Ava Max has a song with Saweetie, Saweetie has a song with Quavo and Quavo has an Album with Travis Scott
physical album sales are records sold to record stores not to the public . the shop buys the albums and sells them to the public . how do you not know this ? a record label can sell 1 million albums to Walmart and if only 1 person buys 1 album then the artist has still sold 1 million albums . have you never seen a sale bin of albums a shop cant sell ? the rules exist to stop record label people from going into the shop and buying the album then selling them back to the shops to inflate numbers . another way to inflate physical numbers besides bundling them with tshirts , posters, concert tickets is to have fake shops make orders or for labels have contacts in record stores that place orders for albums in the week of release like the last day , then after those album sales are counted for charts and before the physical records are delivered the order gets canceled . but the sales dont get taken off that weeks chart .
that is the reason why billboard probably didnt count his record labels claims that on the very last day, in the very last hour , his record label just happened to sell just the right amount of albums ,to a mysterious buyer , to just push his number to the number one slot .
you need to know how this game was always played . you actually think one physical album sale means one fan bought a album and took it home ? do you not know all those sales numbers include all the cds sitting on shop shelves ?
so what was the second week , third week sale numbers then ? canceled orders and full stock rooms
You are completely wrong, that’s how it USED to be, these albums are mostly D2C now.
@@HYextra then why are they exactly even numbers. Any where that sells albums in bulk like vinal is either outright bough by the shop or sale or return . Lots of artists operate a online store that buys physical albums from the label in bulk and then they sell to the public direct online. It's not the actual label selling direct to consumers . The online store still has a stock in a wear house that they purchased from record labels. Same with tshirts and posters . There is no way a competent manager and artists is going to take a percentage split on the album being sold by a label in the label own online store when they can take a 30% cut of the top by owning their own online store . I would put money on travis owning his own website and online shop and it not being owned by a record label . Even RUclipsrs have their own online shop .
In UK we still have record stores , maybe it's very different in USA, not like it used to be , but they still operate that old way and still count for a real percentage of charts
There are still many ways to game numbers. My point is most people think streams are unreliable and physical is real , they think every album counted as a sale to one consumer, and it's never been that
6:38 😭😭 nicki done had a stroke
well if we are going to count bundles. you might as well count merch at this point. Very few people play these and next to no one only listens to them on that format. Vinyls are a form of memorabilia at this point. same with CD's and anything else that way.
He should’ve put mo city flexologist and whole lots changed on the album, it wouldn’t have been close to a debate then.
6:25 I remember when Nicki had said this and she was getting bashed for this take but hindsight is 20/20 Ig
I'm conflicted, but Travis proved me wrong a few times, so I'm rocking with him. Mainly cause he's making the right moves and making great music while doing it. If you don't respect it, you just hating. Granted, everyone has their shit but the industry is gonna go shit the more hate get thrown around cause of jealousy and ego.
Such a funny thumbnail 🙂🙂...!!
Bro you don't give us the same content anymore, you switched you hating now you ain't fair no more.
Sabrina could not go or never go on the stadium tour or even the arena tour that Travis is doing now. That should tell you all you need to know.
She probably could, she gained a massive fan base she will be here to stay sorry.
Who said she Couldn't and he had low sales For artist that's been mainstream for how long He only sold 29 k That says a lot and Sabrina has sold out stadiums Obviously you're not keeping up if you actually believe
@@SarahYusra-s7lshe has a fan base already but she’s still up and coming. Love her album but I’m really questioning how long she can hold on for. She’s already proved she has potential in mainstream.
@@jwang7753 Let's not lie now. She's not gonna hold onto her new success. Look at her past stuff.
Why is Nicki being so salty?! The man can do whatever he wants as long as billboard approves it. Damn!!
Rap Is dying out That's only song Charting right now is not like us while every other song is pop
@@SarahYusra-s7l cuz no major hip hop artist dropped an album this year
17:16 webster hall march 2015? if so, I was also there bro
& now we got FTCU remix 😂
i thought that was billie eilish😂
Sabrina album sounds like stuff they play at shoe stores
The way record sales are counted now makes getting a #1 almost meaningless
18:44 I’m not mad at the debate raised here of streams vs sales, bc If the charts are meant to reflect the music the majority are consuming: Streaming accounts for *84%* of recorded music consumption - around 10-12% of consumption is coming from physical sales.
*Why should a strong seller but weak streamer get no.1 when physical sales are only 10% of the market?* It’s a fair question! 🤔
At the end of the day, the Billboard charts are now *consumption* charts rather than *sales* charts, and we either them to reflect what the MAJORITY of ppl are consuming, or we don’t. 🤷🏾♂️
Travis is a popstar
Didn’t fans shout FEIN FEIN FEIN at one of Sabrina’s concerts recently? Lmao
Sabrina tried to inherit a beef that died a long time ago 😂 wasn’t Travis Scott on the FTCU Remix. Bruh 😂😂 Sabrina definitely knew it was gonna catch attention from the people
Like it are not she is the hottest pop star now period
All of the countries you mentioned about Sabrina Carpenter are Countries RUclips Automatically selects as options to advertise too when you try to promote your videos LOL. You can't make this up. Also the majority of them come from India, Probably bots, which is weird because RUclips is promoting it.
Her production team/label is trying too hard to be Kanye vs Taylor 1:24
How can anyone listen to Queen Radio?
"autotune man"😂😂😂
another coke rant I see.
she still can't beat the allegations
Travis should honestly fire shots after this disrespect, his image cant turn soft. One time he was the bigger man/person, the second time Nickis pettiness should have consequences. Also she showed with the interview etc. that she exactly knows what shes doing and that Travis had a right to be upset the first time, this males this even worse
Grown ahh man editing this corny thumbnail over a chart battle is actually insane
Put the fries in the bag
Honestly this situation just exposes how close minded and immature most rap fan are
15:07 bro forgot about Taylor swift
preach my king🍑👏🥵
Oh snap I'm among the first viewers............EVERYONE WHO SEES THIS HIT THE LIKE BUTTON. I WANNA SEE WHO READS THE COMMENTS
this is a travis W. Imo he dropped an extremly niche album that went toe to toe with a generic radio appealing pop act for n1.
"Drake is so much bigger" 5:27
Is crazy tbf💀
He isn’t lying
What world do you live in that Nicki Minaj is bigger than drake name a country, region, state, city, town where Nicki is bigger than drake
Man i wish asap rocky dropped on AWGEST 30TH 😭😭😭
At least we know for a fact Sabrina is a industry plant😂
Sabrina's tweet was probably a joke and maybe attempt to get Barbz to buy her record. Travis didn't seem to take it as an insult, as far as I can tell. Travis shouldn't take any crap off this, but it seems like his people misread the rules wrong or missed a deadline and hers didn't. Both were finessing, as is fine. Whatever her other albums sold or her listener count was before, she's legit become one of the hottest acts this year.
u cant compare travis to sabrina, hes miles ahead so it makes sense, come on hes a legend
Kendrick’s 2 minute un named “let the party die” drop had way more impact than anything these 2 dropped. Travis the 1 trick pony ”rapper” if he can even be considered that, and Sabrina carpenter the “industry boosted to shit” wannabe “Taylor”. I remember the day so well, on both Apple Music and Spotify surprisingly not RUclips music (yes I pay all 3 instead of tv stream subs) started promoting Sabrina and Travis, I was so lost with Sabrina though because she hadn’t been anywhere near a spotlight in years, and Travis well sings the same dogshit since November 5, 2021, dude going “uhhhhhhhhh” with a white glove and making strange ahh noises then acting like he didn’t sell his soul, Kanye being the only deranged man to defend him prob offered him 7 cases of galaxy gas smh
Had Sabrina and Travis not been promoted I don’t think anyone other than diehards would’ve noticed the stupid thing both thought was worth dropping.
Oh look another Kendrick evangelist
7:29 wtf is that😭🙏
Autotune man😂
😂😂😂😂
Yo days is on my nokia flip phone
Your bang on with this one
bro I love Nicki 😂 but man idk she went after my guy Travis like that…. anyway…🦅(ITS LIT, STRAIGHT UP, YEAH!)
Travis won by far anyway since those are 10 y.o. songs generating these numbers against completely new material 😂 actually it’s not even close
Won but then droppee out of the top 3 the immediate week after… ok