Yes, Disney supports all women, unless it's women who don't give in to their DEI bullshit and toe the line. Props to Gina! She's missed in the Mandalorian.
@@joehenry9546Where were all you so-called fans in 2022 when she made the movie Terror On The Prairie? That movie made only $800 it's opening weekend. And grossed a total of only $13,000 though it's entire theatrical run. That's the real reason she sued Disney. She's broke.
@@mojoschmee9320 Lol same, I'm legit from California so naturally would say I was "left" most of my life, but nothing drove me away faster than these people who are essentially just activists and performing insane mental gymnastics to apply racism to everything where there is none, and accept literally everyone (aside from the right or people pushing back against the woke shit), just living in echo chambers and never actually challenging their preconceived notions or the bs that's been spewed at them, and eventually was just like yeah this isn't the "left" I recognize from when I was growing up.
If this goes to court, will it be aired on YT like the Depp/Heard trial? Do you think That Umbrella Guy will air it with commentary like before? Or will VR?
@@ValliantRenegade Elon has no legal say. He may be paying for the lawyers, but they have to listen to Gina. I hope she stands up to them, but I can see Iger just tossing $20m+ at her to make this go away.
It will have to be a settlement. In the end it's just money. Otherwise what restitution would you want? She made it clear like Johnny Depp she wants nothing to do with Disney. That is unless they change management?
@@jonfreeman9682 Like they said, it's about those internal communications of the higher-ups...if they were punishing her, it's definitely something the court needs to know...there is no social media section in courtrooms...lol...
Discovery is not in the public record unless disputed. In fact the vast majority of discovery is NEVER in the public record. That's why people always have to get a court order for the release of deposition transcripts.
@@jonfreeman9682 for too long, Disney was all about entertainment and bringing smiles to not just kids, but to families with their creativity. What I want to know is why Disney decided to take this obscure path to not only send a message, but corrupt the audience with these propaganda. Disney used to be all about fun, now it’s just soulless. These needs to be addressed and educate the world what not to do to avoid this terrible downfall.
@@christheghostwriter work practices, for start, since Disney is so adamant not having an agenda, when there clearly is. Why they are going through with these terrible decisions, since everything recently has been flop after flop after mega flop, and if there are any parties involved in a convoluted scheme. Where all the funding goes to, since they are given a huge sum for production, and recently, the acolyte, which had a budget $180m, it looked like trash, from sets to costumes to actors hired (no offense to some, but you can tell that someone of them look like they were just taken off the streets to be a part of someone). Any sort of affiliation with a scheme or ring, since it is most likely that they only hire those around their community and not even look towards people that have made a solid mark in Hollywood. I’m not looking for someone super famous, but someone that at least more than 3 people that audience would recognize.
But, Disney didn't just fire Gina Carano, they celebrated it publically and ran her name into the ground, essentially making her unemployable in the entertainment industry.
Pablo Hidalgo publicly celebrated her being fired on Twitter, i'm sure Drunk3PO gave Gina and her Lawyer those screenshots, i've seen them in his videos. So did James Gunn... that was weird because he got cancelled himself, but let back into the cool kids club, you would think somebody who went through this bullshit already would not chime in on this witch hunting bullshit.
Honestly the best outcome is not to pay a settlement but make peace and bring her back and give her own show. It'll be a big win for fans and Disney as they can use the ratings. New fans may sign-up and maybe old fans might comeback.
@@jonfreeman9682 wishful thinking right there. That option is not a valid one for Disney in their eyes. They also have lost quite a few lawsuits and settled out of court over the last couple years. Ranging from Government, to their own employees, all the way down to the park attendees. They'll rather die on the hill they stand on then to admit that what they did was wrong. Unfortunately.
@@DocNo27 yes they are. The law is in their side. This case is just about Carano trying to keep her name in the news. Disney didn't fire her. They paid her for her contract, and then they decided not to offer her a new contract. That's not illegal. If it were, I'd go around suing every company that didn't offer me a job. Do you see how dumb that sounds? Because that's how dumb you sound right now
What I'm waiting for is when Disney begs to settle rather than let the case go to discovery ... which would undoubtedly prove, in their own words, how much they hate their audience.
"The Disney Company has ended its relationship with Gina Carano, and we wish her luck in her future endeavors." That's all they had to say. They couldn't help themselves.
Disney is concerned about its audience?? Disney need to take themselves to court for the trauma they've been inflicting upon their audience over the past three or four years.
I hope she takes them all the way through the cleaners. If she goes through court, it opens the door for plebs who have been fired in similar situations to have an open door in the courts.
That's a good point. A huge Pandora's box and Disney legal knows it. Other studios are watching this closely as now there's a way to fight cancel culture.
The actual large problem Disney has is the fact that they defamed her when they fired her, calling her "abhorrent" on their official company Twitter account. That is not allowed and Gina has every right to sue for defamation.
Are you serious? That doesn't seem very Disney like to call someone out like that. Plus it opens the door for lawsuits. Honestly not sure why they cancelled her.
Defamation typically requires some kind of fact statement that is false. Calling someone despicable is just an opinion statement, so Gina can't really sue over that as defamation - she might however sue over a non-disparagement clause if that exists.
you have it backwards. Finding her words and behavior despicable is not a false claim. It's an opinion. And it's protected. Disney knows that, Carano knows that, Elon Musk knows that, and every lawyer she first consulted two years ago knows that. The only reasons why this case is happening now instead of two years ago are that Elon likes publicity, and Carano needs publicity. This is not a viable defamation case. And stop lying, by the way. Disney never said "Gina Carano is despicable." If you have to twist the truth to make a point, maybe you don't actually have a point.
the thing is, Disney didn't fire her because they thought it would hurt their audience, they fired her because they thought it would hurt the audience they WANTED (as evidenced by the people they made The Acolyte for, since it's not made for the OG Star Wars fans)
Excellent discussion. Ron Coleman presents the key question that must be considered "Do you own her, by virtue of having a job in one of your 'comic book movies', is this woman now your property such that she can't express an opinion on any matter that you disagree with as long as she is employed by you"?
This is literally covered by Californian Labor Law that an employer can not influence an employees political opinion, or forbid/influence their speech or terminate somebody for their political speech. The 40 LGBTQ+ people yell at you on a computer screen "struggle session" stuff alone is enough to light a fire under Disney / LucasFilm and Kathleen Kennedy's collective asses. And i bet you, they do that shit on a regular basis to tons of employees, or it would not be this organized of a system.
She made it to discovery which is the most important part. She will now get to see Disney's internal communications. We're about to turn over this woke rock.
Don't think it was lost on me, that this trial hearing began the same week that, The Acolyte's "Destiny" episode aired on Disney +. Notice how virtually no establishment media outlets have mentioned that Leslye Headland's name was mentioned in Gina Carano's lawsuit as being one of her abusers (during her time employed at Disney/Lucasfilm Ltd.), and how that (most likely) has had an impact on the SW Fan base's reaction/reception to Leslye Headland's The Acolyte? Kids, if you don't know about the legal term, "Discovery"...well, you're gonna get a GREAT DEFINITION/DEPICTION of it in this case. WOAH, BABY!
Well the case was filed awhile back but it took time to get a court trial. And there's not much to discover as all the dirt is out there but Gina was very polite in her interviews and never bad mouthed anyone and didn't mention names but we all know who. Jon Favreau fought to bring her back but higher ups blocked it. It's very political at Disney.
@@jonfreeman9682 discovery will include any official communication (e.g. email, text messages, papers, etc.) created by Disney related to the case. Essentially we will possibly see things that haven't been made public.
Disney's trying to use the First Amendment as a defense for firing Carano would be very bad if it worked. The amendment is suppose to uphold freedom of expression, not stifle it.
And that's why Disney will win, they said nothing that was factually incorrect or not opinion related. Calling a person despicable or a bad person, is an opinion. It'd be different if they called her a murderer.
@@AllyMonsters I think what's being tested is the California law that was originally intended to prevent communist sympathizers from being fired for expressing their opinions, and now Carano is attempting to use it in her defense because now it's conservative opinions that are taboo. Whether she wins will determine the strength of that law or if it only works for communists.
Because Disney is run by woke SJW's, and there is one type of racism that they are absolutely A-okay with, one group it is totally and completely acceptable to say the most vile and bigoted things against.
The problem is they were claiming that she was anti-semitic and they didn't want to be associated with that. She clearly was not. I don't understand why that isn't being argued. They are lying about why they got rid of her by pretending that she said THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT SHE REALLY SAID. This seems very relevant.
So by Disney's point of view, can conservative minded companies fire employees based on public and/or online opinions about certain topics that they don't support or align with? Because I'm sure if that happened, a double standard would apply and there would be some sort of public or online outrage expressed, that Disney would no doubt openly support.....
As I understand the situation, she kept posting after told several times to stop. Looking at the laws Disney can fire you for saying something that they feel like they can hurt their brand. Now she points out Pablo Pascal had tweeted something as well but wasn't fired. As I understand it he only did it once and stopped.
@@Deuteromis just to be clear: she was NOT "fired." She was an independent contractor. They fulfilled their obligation to the contract. They chose not to offer her a new contract. That's within their rights. This suit should be thrown out.
Good that Valliant lets Ron finish his points without excessive interruptions. That's an advantage of a one-to-one conversation. Some other channels invite a legal expert on and then ruin it by repeatedly barging in before the full explanation is given to the audience.
@@jonfreeman9682 Yes, Iger publicly tried to paint him as anti-Jewish, and campaigned to get any/all advertisers to boycott Twitter/X, after Musk purchased the company, and freed it of its biased, abusive rules. And, that's not all...
@@ZeroB4NG then hopefully, case closed 🤣 I don't care what each side is on politically. It's either ok for both of them or ok for neither. I'm of the opinion that both of them should be allowed to share their political views out of work as they damn well please! Anyway, let's go Gina!
Discovery is going to show animus on Disney's part. They are doomed after that. The fact that they attacked Gina after being fired is separately actionable.
Winning is not money. Winning is discovery and taking all that information to court. As they often say, the punishment is the process. Its time to process Disney to within an inch of its figurative life.
Disney operates like an NGO, advocating certain viewpoints,. The company is so focused on its "messaging" and advocacy for certain causes that it has forgotten that it is a for-profit corporation. The money Disney lavishly wastes is the investors' money. Disney is not a good steward of its resources, much less making a profit for its owners. Past time to get rid of Iger, his top executives, and the Disney board.
It isn’t even that they fired her. It was all the struggle session shit and then the public character assassination after they let her go. If they were so concerned about the social media profile of their employees, then they should’ve put that in their contracts. [not to mention the double standard]
While I don't necessarily agree with everything Ms. Carano has said, the appalling coordinated attack on her person is beyond the pale; don't want to work with someone anymore, fine, but don't attack them.
But did they attack her? They only cancelled her or more precisely didn't invite her back for season 2. Rumor was there were plans for her own show as she was popular as a bad assery boss girl. Did Disney do or say something?
@WaltRight what in god's name are you babbling about? Carano wasn't "attacked." She wasn't fired, Disney didn't violate a contract or refuse to pay her what they owed here. So, genius, tell me how she was "attacked" or "treated unfairly." Please be specific
I like the idea of the CA law protecting political opinion from employers. To me it's a free speech protection. When Ron presented the question, does the corporation own you because you are it's employee is the key issue. That makes not about Gina, but a constitutional argument protecting the citizenry. Corporations already believe they own their employees. This ruling can help ingrain the separation of the personal life, and speech, and when they are on the clock at work.
@Ron - She must have been considered an employee by Lucasfilm if they were trying to FORCE her into a 40+ person struggle session. Since an entire show was being designed around her, Faverau certainly thought she was going to be working with him on a Disney Star Wars show for many years. Just because there was no current contract, their behaviour shows they were treating her like an active employee.
She was on contract for Mando season 2 and maybe more seasons and there was discussion of her own show and Jon Favreau was a big supporter of hers. What's cool about Gina is she was no 90 lb Mary Sue but a real warrior fighter who looked the part so this is girl boss done right and she has legions of fans. Yes she was an employee but like all employees anyone can get fired for whatever reason when someone is out to get you. Honestly Disney would be smart to bring her back as it'll help with ratings.
Jon Favreau informed Gina, in October 2020, that Disney had given him the go-ahead to produce, Rangers Of The New Republic. By December 2020, Favreau had already completed 2 scripts for the series; with The Pilot being given to Gina to read. Paul Sun-Hyung Lee (Captain Carson Teva) supposedly also got to see The Pilot, as well, since he was going to be playing Cara Dune's partner in Adelphi Squad. When Kennedy pulled the crap she did, she screwed a large number of people who would've been involved in that guaranteed success of a SW show...all because she hated the fact that all of the female characters from The Mandoverse were being praised and adored by general SW Fans, inc. the DREADED MALE SW FANS; which made characters like Rey, Rose Tico, Admiral Holdo, etc. look like the faulty, over-baked creations they are; which demolished her narrative that women should be a major force in running SW storytelling...STUPID and UNLAWFUL.
Regarding the "But if she said this..." hypothetical, why not turn it around? What if Disney fired someone for posting an Instragram image of their pancake breakfast because Disney wants their audience to like waffles? This is exactly why most common people are skeptical of the "corporate persons" legal argument. Too often it amounts to corporations asserting greater legal rights than the people. I can respect that a business needs some protections to conduct themselves as they see fit, but if they cannot show how the conduct at issue is RELEVANT to the business, then they have no grounds to interfere with the rights of the individual.
My hope is that all this will be revealed to the public and on display. Hopefully, this will be the final nail in the coffin. Disney has destroyed all of my favorite things between Marvel and Lucas Film. I hope that a hostile takeover is in their future.
@WaltRight lol - nope, the law doesn't work that way. Go read the CA law. What others do or don't do have no bearing. Indeed, they would have had the same case she does.
@WaltRight If you think I'm defending Disney then you have a SERIOUS reading comprehension problem. Slow down there and stop flying off the handle. You're all over the place in these comments.
We all know what Amandla Stenberg said in a TV Show about a certain pale dwmographic and that her goal was to make them cry... If she can starr 2 roles in M.r Weinsteins former secretarys TV show, Disney have a bit explaining to do regarding Gina.
There was no obligation for Disney to announce their feelings about Gina, and they could’ve simply not cast her. Instead, they went out of their way to make declarative statements about her character and actions which were demonstrably false and clearly designed to poison the waters for any future work. As an employer, they should know better than to directly interfere with future employability and the price should be high enough to discourage anyone from ever trying the same in three future. I am thinking 1B per month of unemployment, or Disney’s rights to Star Wars.
They're running a business. They were under fire. And her behavior was utterly reprehensible. Disney is allowed to say so. They're allowed to tell their shareholders and customers that they're disgusted. The truth is a defense against defamation charges. It's true that she made those selfish nasty, ignorant statements. And, presumably, it's true that Disney was as disgusted by her behavior as any reasonable adult would be I'm curious: how did you first hear about all this? Was it from Disney first, or from Carano first?
@@christheghostwriter I read the story, followed it to the tweet in question, and literally saw the opposite of what Disney described. It’s amazing you didn’t know that, or did you? You did, didn’t you? Labor protection laws apply to Disney just like every other employer, but I bet you knew that too.
In my opinion and just as a guess if this actually does make it to discovery disney will use this as a vehicle to either not renew or out right fire KK finally
@@jonfreeman9682I’d guess old Frank is tired of her crap too? seeing him embarrassingly lead Kathy off the stage during Spielberg’s snub at Indy 5’s opening, shows a defeated man, who’s willing to toss her under the bus?
All this bullshit about Hedland and KK, wanting of female force and then they fire Carano. Third damn hypocrites I love Carano and her character. She’s awesome the Mandalorian she kicked ass. I hope she wins her lawsuit. Disney sucks.
Q for Ron. What happens if Disney refuses to provide any material for Discovery? What if they provide only partial material and withhold other material during Discovery?
Gina needs an apology and reinstated to the Mandalorian series THIS will restore good faith in Disney. So they will never do it... Full throttle to the ground, wings fly off. "fudgeit, we are a missle" -Disney pilot.
Interesting. When working for a defense contractor, social media policy was that I was ALWAYS representing my company online and exercise responsible decorum. Wonder what SM policy ( if an) Disney has in their contract s.
Yes but you were an employee - Disney claims she was a mere contractor (LOL), and you likely wouldn't even be talked to about posts like the ones Gina made. If you had made posts like Mark Hamill or Pedro Pascal they might have asked you to take them down but they likely couldn't have fired you over them in California.
@@gunnar6674 Contractors can have SM guidelines in their contract. Did Disney have guidelines in writing? If so, were they clear about was/ was not acceptable ?
@@jonfreeman9682 Because he has the funds to back Carano against the aholes at Disney. At least it means Disney is leaking even more money...and that's always good.
@jonfreeman9682 Elon put it on Twitter/X a year or two ago that if anyone could show that they were fired for something they said on Twitter that he would take care of the lawsuit. Gina reached out to Elon via Twitter. He and his lawyers thought Gina had a case.
They'll pay her to stay quiet. Disney don't like bad publicity and want to maintain their pristine image. Don't think they'll hire her back and she says she doesn't want to come back either.
I don't think either Elon or Gina are interested in settling - they are interested in sending a counter message. Sucks to be Disney for tangling with someone with the same resources they have.
Gina is not the type to take hush money, she wants her name cleared and to make sure that Disney/Lucasfilm can't do this to anyone else, Elon Musk has a personal bone to pick with Disney as well. Hush money is not happening, Disney won't get away that easy this time, this is not somebody looking for a payout, this is somebody looking for revenge.
Why is K K still working in Disney did she not do damage to everything she mess with dose she have something on the board and iger to keep on doing damage to Star Wars and Disney I just want to know why is she still working there
The fact that the others didn't face the same push back from Disney is telling! Gina is allowed to have an opinion, she was not pushing any political view, but Pascal and Hamill definitely were out to belittle any fan who voted differently than they did.
@@DocNo27 oh he is still on Disney, there just hasn't been much movement in the Gina case. But yes the V-Tuber stuff he keeps posting... is uhm... not something i click on.
@@ZeroB4NG He found an audience - there were a lot of bad legal takes in the V-tuber space that he could address, and since he's interested in cross-jurisdiction issues between Asian and US companies that is in his wheelhouse just like the Disney parks issues in Florida.
Never understood that. Like she hasn't wronged anyone but they seem to be on this vendetta against her. She's a popular character in Mando and the smart money would bring her back and there are talks of her own show. Jon Favreau was a huge supporter of her and tried to get her back but the women there I'm guessing KK has some thing against her.
She was true girl boss warrior with legions of fans that love and support her. Jon Favreau fought for her and there were plans for her own show but not sure what happened. Jon Favreau was definitely on board and she was on track for stardom. No idea who derailed her and if KK was even involved.
Seems that the Judge would need Discovery to rule on any motion, as this looks to be. Disney's team is saying 'yeah, but, if..." "If" is not a truthful fact.
If evidence is needed, then the case survives the motion to dismiss. This motion is about if the pleading could succeed even if all the allegations are true, and it seems it maybe could succeed.
As an adjuster that handles civil rights litigation and cases citing violations of free speech (the Unruh Act as I'm in California), this litigation is going exactly as one would expect. Disney is trying to kill this litigation with a motion to dismiss. As an adjuster I would expect to motion to fail, and I would be assessing the options once it fails. Does Disney want to go through litigation and have to answer discovery? Only Disney knows what potentially could be turned over. Is it going to be worse for those things to come to light? If so, I would expect Disney to immediately try to position the case for early settlement discussions. I would not be shocked if there would be an early mediation and that they will have a settlement that will not be publicly exposed. Disney world rather do that then have their dirty laundry come out and potentially have an adverse verdict.
I would argue that investors are supposed to have legal protection from the Company's political views causing widespread financial losses. Simply because the company is choosing to inject those views into high profile shows that never had those views. As well as the fact the Company has a fiduciary duty that is legally binding to look out for investors interest over their political interests. Yet their focus here is an Actor using their 1st amendment right outside of the the "high profile show." You can also show that her firing lead to further financial damages to investors. So really when Disney is arguing this they are also admitting they violated their fiduciary duty. Just as we see official interviews with people Disney casts in other shows speaking volumes of vile hateful attacks against the fanbase and causing even more financial damage to investors... yet Disney takes no action there because it is a mirror of the same political beliefs they are pushing. At the end of the day Disney is in the wrong PERIOD because they have violated fiduciary duty and really what should be happening is an investor lawsuit. So when I hear "it's their company"... well no it's not. They are losing others peoples money. If they want to prop up whatever political view and take the losses... you do that as a Private Company with zero fiduciary duty. PERIOD.
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Yes, Disney supports all women, unless it's women who don't give in to their DEI bullshit and toe the line. Props to Gina! She's missed in the Mandalorian.
I'm a left-wing liberal. The reason I stopped watching Mandalorian was because they fired Gina.
They lost a lot of fans when she was fired
@@joehenry9546Where were all you so-called fans in 2022 when she made the movie Terror On The Prairie? That movie made only $800 it's opening weekend. And grossed a total of only $13,000 though it's entire theatrical run. That's the real reason she sued Disney. She's broke.
What is left? And what is right?
"I'm a left-wing liberal." Still? I mean, I was, too, but still???
@@mojoschmee9320 Lol same, I'm legit from California so naturally would say I was "left" most of my life, but nothing drove me away faster than these people who are essentially just activists and performing insane mental gymnastics to apply racism to everything where there is none, and accept literally everyone (aside from the right or people pushing back against the woke shit), just living in echo chambers and never actually challenging their preconceived notions or the bs that's been spewed at them, and eventually was just like yeah this isn't the "left" I recognize from when I was growing up.
I ,hope Gina does not settle outa court. Imagine the media circus of an actual trial?
She wont. Elon Musk wont allow it
It’s all about discovery 😂
If this goes to court, will it be aired on YT like the Depp/Heard trial? Do you think That Umbrella Guy will air it with commentary like before? Or will VR?
@@ValliantRenegade Elon has no legal say. He may be paying for the lawyers, but they have to listen to Gina. I hope she stands up to them, but I can see Iger just tossing $20m+ at her to make this go away.
It will have to be a settlement. In the end it's just money. Otherwise what restitution would you want? She made it clear like Johnny Depp she wants nothing to do with Disney. That is unless they change management?
Discovery is all that matters here. Disney must get unmasked.
There's nothing left we don't know. It's all out there on social media and we the fans support her.
@@jonfreeman9682 Like they said, it's about those internal communications of the higher-ups...if they were punishing her, it's definitely something the court needs to know...there is no social media section in courtrooms...lol...
Discovery is not in the public record unless disputed. In fact the vast majority of discovery is NEVER in the public record. That's why people always have to get a court order for the release of deposition transcripts.
Disney has a lot more to lose when it comes to discovery. And Gina should expose them for all.
AMEN.
I agree but do you think that's the best course of action?
@@jonfreeman9682 for too long, Disney was all about entertainment and bringing smiles to not just kids, but to families with their creativity. What I want to know is why Disney decided to take this obscure path to not only send a message, but corrupt the audience with these propaganda.
Disney used to be all about fun, now it’s just soulless. These needs to be addressed and educate the world what not to do to avoid this terrible downfall.
What is it you think she's going to "expose"? Please be specific
@@christheghostwriter work practices, for start, since Disney is so adamant not having an agenda, when there clearly is.
Why they are going through with these terrible decisions, since everything recently has been flop after flop after mega flop, and if there are any parties involved in a convoluted scheme.
Where all the funding goes to, since they are given a huge sum for production, and recently, the acolyte, which had a budget $180m, it looked like trash, from sets to costumes to actors hired (no offense to some, but you can tell that someone of them look like they were just taken off the streets to be a part of someone).
Any sort of affiliation with a scheme or ring, since it is most likely that they only hire those around their community and not even look towards people that have made a solid mark in Hollywood. I’m not looking for someone super famous, but someone that at least more than 3 people that audience would recognize.
But, Disney didn't just fire Gina Carano, they celebrated it publically and ran her name into the ground, essentially making her unemployable in the entertainment industry.
Pablo Hidalgo publicly celebrated her being fired on Twitter, i'm sure Drunk3PO gave Gina and her Lawyer those screenshots, i've seen them in his videos.
So did James Gunn... that was weird because he got cancelled himself, but let back into the cool kids club, you would think somebody who went through this bullshit already would not chime in on this witch hunting bullshit.
Amen and Amen. Disney must be held accountable and become diverse and inclusive….
@@OrionsRoseNC you mean locked up
Gina Carano didn’t deserve the shit she got from Disney. I hope she wins and sues them into oblivion.
Honestly the best outcome is not to pay a settlement but make peace and bring her back and give her own show. It'll be a big win for fans and Disney as they can use the ratings. New fans may sign-up and maybe old fans might comeback.
@@jonfreeman9682 wishful thinking right there. That option is not a valid one for Disney in their eyes. They also have lost quite a few lawsuits and settled out of court over the last couple years. Ranging from Government, to their own employees, all the way down to the park attendees. They'll rather die on the hill they stand on then to admit that what they did was wrong. Unfortunately.
@@bousch8253 Good luck. Elon has more resources than they do at this point. Disney is NOT in the drivers seat this time.
@@DocNo27 yes they are. The law is in their side. This case is just about Carano trying to keep her name in the news. Disney didn't fire her. They paid her for her contract, and then they decided not to offer her a new contract. That's not illegal. If it were, I'd go around suing every company that didn't offer me a job.
Do you see how dumb that sounds? Because that's how dumb you sound right now
Yes she does
What I'm waiting for is when Disney begs to settle rather than let the case go to discovery ... which would undoubtedly prove, in their own words, how much they hate their audience.
Disney WAS a creative company, now it is a mouthpiece for DEI
"The Disney Company has ended its relationship with Gina Carano, and we wish her luck in her future endeavors."
That's all they had to say. They couldn't help themselves.
Disney is concerned about its audience?? Disney need to take themselves to court for the trauma they've been inflicting upon their audience over the past three or four years.
"trauma"??? 😂😂😂 Why are you people such embarrassing drama queens?
@@christheghostwriter You do realise I was joking, and you now look rather silly.
@@grahamsmith2753 sure you were
@@christheghostwriter LOL.
@@grahamsmith2753 ghostwriter must be a legal beagle subscriber too 🤣
I hope she takes them all the way through the cleaners. If she goes through court, it opens the door for plebs who have been fired in similar situations to have an open door in the courts.
That's a good point. A huge Pandora's box and Disney legal knows it. Other studios are watching this closely as now there's a way to fight cancel culture.
And you'll lose.
Colonist says what?
The actual large problem Disney has is the fact that they defamed her when they fired her, calling her "abhorrent" on their official company Twitter account. That is not allowed and Gina has every right to sue for defamation.
Are you serious? That doesn't seem very Disney like to call someone out like that. Plus it opens the door for lawsuits. Honestly not sure why they cancelled her.
Lol good luck with that
Defamation typically requires some kind of fact statement that is false. Calling someone despicable is just an opinion statement, so Gina can't really sue over that as defamation - she might however sue over a non-disparagement clause if that exists.
you have it backwards. Finding her words and behavior despicable is not a false claim. It's an opinion. And it's protected. Disney knows that, Carano knows that, Elon Musk knows that, and every lawyer she first consulted two years ago knows that. The only reasons why this case is happening now instead of two years ago are that Elon likes publicity, and Carano needs publicity. This is not a viable defamation case.
And stop lying, by the way. Disney never said "Gina Carano is despicable." If you have to twist the truth to make a point, maybe you don't actually have a point.
@@christheghostwriter Who are you responding to now? To @rschiwal again, or someone else?
I’m here for the DISCOVERY. No wonder Disney wants to avoid that exposure.
the thing is, Disney didn't fire her because they thought it would hurt their audience, they fired her because they thought it would hurt the audience they WANTED (as evidenced by the people they made The Acolyte for, since it's not made for the OG Star Wars fans)
"is she your property?"
That is a comfortable euphemism for slavery.
Excellent discussion. Ron Coleman presents the key question that must be considered "Do you own her, by virtue of having a job in one of your 'comic book movies', is this woman now your property such that she can't express an opinion on any matter that you disagree with as long as she is employed by you"?
This is literally covered by Californian Labor Law that an employer can not influence an employees political opinion, or forbid/influence their speech or terminate somebody for their political speech.
The 40 LGBTQ+ people yell at you on a computer screen "struggle session" stuff alone is enough to light a fire under Disney / LucasFilm and Kathleen Kennedy's collective asses.
And i bet you, they do that shit on a regular basis to tons of employees, or it would not be this organized of a system.
She made it to discovery which is the most important part. She will now get to see Disney's internal communications. We're about to turn over this woke rock.
Don't think it was lost on me, that this trial hearing began the same week that, The Acolyte's "Destiny" episode aired on Disney +. Notice how virtually no establishment media outlets have mentioned that Leslye Headland's name was mentioned in Gina Carano's lawsuit as being one of her abusers (during her time employed at Disney/Lucasfilm Ltd.), and how that (most likely) has had an impact on the SW Fan base's reaction/reception to Leslye Headland's The Acolyte? Kids, if you don't know about the legal term, "Discovery"...well, you're gonna get a GREAT DEFINITION/DEPICTION of it in this case. WOAH, BABY!
Well the case was filed awhile back but it took time to get a court trial. And there's not much to discover as all the dirt is out there but Gina was very polite in her interviews and never bad mouthed anyone and didn't mention names but we all know who. Jon Favreau fought to bring her back but higher ups blocked it. It's very political at Disney.
"abusers" lol you people are always such whiny little victims
@@jonfreeman9682 discovery will include any official communication (e.g. email, text messages, papers, etc.) created by Disney related to the case. Essentially we will possibly see things that haven't been made public.
Disney's trying to use the First Amendment as a defense for firing Carano would be very bad if it worked. The amendment is suppose to uphold freedom of expression, not stifle it.
And that's why Disney will win, they said nothing that was factually incorrect or not opinion related. Calling a person despicable or a bad person, is an opinion. It'd be different if they called her a murderer.
@@AllyMonsters I think what's being tested is the California law that was originally intended to prevent communist sympathizers from being fired for expressing their opinions, and now Carano is attempting to use it in her defense because now it's conservative opinions that are taboo. Whether she wins will determine the strength of that law or if it only works for communists.
@@AllyMonsters But I also see your point - in any other state, Carano would probably have no case.
Disney: "We're a creative company!"
Also Disney: "Our new character is a rock named Geode"
not buying it. literally.
Disney "We love strong women!"
Gina "I'm strong"
Disney "Shut up b---ch!"
If Disney is so concerned with an actor's beliefs,how come they have no problem employing a known racist like Amandla Stenberg???
Their host, Krystina Arielle is one too.
Because Disney is run by woke SJW's, and there is one type of racism that they are absolutely A-okay with, one group it is totally and completely acceptable to say the most vile and bigoted things against.
Who mind you is bi racial and daughter of president of company so she knows fk all about struggles of black folks. Just another hypocrite.
There should be total transparency, but because Disney is scared of the ramifications they DO NOT WANT IT.....
Disney has gotten used to playing fast and loose with the law for a long time. The chickens are coming home to roost.
Disney you had it coming, Gina we are with you!
She has nothing
My two favorite attorneys, Ron Coleman and Andrew Esquire. They both know how to explain the law in a way that the average person can understand.
Excellent! Than you Val for the update.
The problem is they were claiming that she was anti-semitic and they didn't want to be associated with that. She clearly was not.
I don't understand why that isn't being argued. They are lying about why they got rid of her by pretending that she said THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT SHE REALLY SAID.
This seems very relevant.
So by Disney's point of view, can conservative minded companies fire employees based on public and/or online opinions about certain topics that they don't support or align with? Because I'm sure if that happened, a double standard would apply and there would be some sort of public or online outrage expressed, that Disney would no doubt openly support.....
As I understand the situation, she kept posting after told several times to stop. Looking at the laws Disney can fire you for saying something that they feel like they can hurt their brand.
Now she points out Pablo Pascal had tweeted something as well but wasn't fired. As I understand it he only did it once and stopped.
It happens all the time
@@Deuteromis just to be clear: she was NOT "fired." She was an independent contractor. They fulfilled their obligation to the contract. They chose not to offer her a new contract. That's within their rights. This suit should be thrown out.
Yes. Don't cut your own balls off
She picked on children. It's over
Gina's gonna give Disney hell.
Disney will settle before it gets to discovery as it would expose too many of their other crimes, which would lead to multiple class actions.
The publicity is not good as social media and RUclipsrs will jump on it so it'll be a settlement.
@@EnsignRedshirtRicky Settling only works if both parties agree and Gina/Elon have zero interest in settling.
No
@@EnsignRedshirtRicky Gina ain't settling. She wants the truth out there.
Good that Valliant lets Ron finish his points without excessive interruptions. That's an advantage of a one-to-one conversation.
Some other channels invite a legal expert on and then ruin it by repeatedly barging in before the full explanation is given to the audience.
Discovery is victory, bring it on.
Opinion: Disney is doing everything including looking under the couch cushions to come up with settlement money. Musk is thinking "money well spent."
Musk wants to mouse fuck this company
@@ValliantRenegade What do you mean?
What's Elon's beef with Disney exactly? Did something happen?
@@jonfreeman9682 Yes, Iger publicly tried to paint him as anti-Jewish, and campaigned to get any/all advertisers to boycott Twitter/X, after Musk purchased the company, and freed it of its biased, abusive rules. And, that's not all...
@WaltRight what does "woke" mean? Please be specific.
All they have to do at the court is show Pedro WAS NOT fired for the exact same thing but he's on the left.
Those screenshots are in the publicly available court filings that we all got to read months ago.
The Judge has already seen all of those.
@@ZeroB4NG then hopefully, case closed 🤣 I don't care what each side is on politically.
It's either ok for both of them or ok for neither.
I'm of the opinion that both of them should be allowed to share their political views out of work as they damn well please!
Anyway, let's go Gina!
Discovery is going to show animus on Disney's part. They are doomed after that. The fact that they attacked Gina after being fired is separately actionable.
Disney stock now down below $100. Pletz is just laughing and Iger is crying while looking for a lifeline.
Thanks! Your voice is great to listen to.
Hot Update! Paper shreddin' and hard drive smashin' fiesta at LucasFilm! Started 10 minutes ago, BYOB.
According to Gina's Twitter the judge hasn't made a ruling yet
Winning is not money.
Winning is discovery and taking all that information to court. As they often say, the punishment is the process. Its time to process Disney to within an inch of its figurative life.
Good stuff Valiant. Thanks for breaking it down for the lay person
Pushback in the culture wars is a multi front proposition
Stay vigilant!
Disney dosn't need Gina or anyone else to help them put off their fans, they are accomplishing that just fine on their own.
Gotta love when Lameafornia law comes back to bite them
Disney operates like an NGO, advocating certain viewpoints,. The company is so focused on its "messaging" and advocacy for certain causes that it has forgotten that it is a for-profit corporation. The money Disney lavishly wastes is the investors' money. Disney is not a good steward of its resources, much less making a profit for its owners. Past time to get rid of Iger, his top executives, and the Disney board.
Disney stock now under 100/ share...keep it up 😂😂😂
It isn’t even that they fired her. It was all the struggle session shit and then the public character assassination after they let her go.
If they were so concerned about the social media profile of their employees, then they should’ve put that in their contracts.
[not to mention the double standard]
Get all KK emails and headlands emails
its funny how disney is against the naz- while acting like a naz- go gina
While I don't necessarily agree with everything Ms. Carano has said, the appalling coordinated attack on her person is beyond the pale; don't want to work with someone anymore, fine, but don't attack them.
But did they attack her? They only cancelled her or more precisely didn't invite her back for season 2. Rumor was there were plans for her own show as she was popular as a bad assery boss girl. Did Disney do or say something?
They didn't "attack" her. Seriously, why are you people such disingenuous drama queens?
@WaltRight why are you lying and comparing what Carano did with what Pascal did?!
@WaltRight what in god's name are you babbling about?
Carano wasn't "attacked." She wasn't fired, Disney didn't violate a contract or refuse to pay her what they owed here. So, genius, tell me how she was "attacked" or "treated unfairly." Please be specific
@WaltRight no, he didn't "do the same thing." Why are you still lying?
I like the idea of the CA law protecting political opinion from employers. To me it's a free speech protection.
When Ron presented the question, does the corporation own you because you are it's employee is the key issue. That makes not about Gina, but a constitutional argument protecting the citizenry. Corporations already believe they own their employees. This ruling can help ingrain the separation of the personal life, and speech, and when they are on the clock at work.
Get them, Gina, go get them!
@Ron - She must have been considered an employee by Lucasfilm if they were trying to FORCE her into a 40+ person struggle session. Since an entire show was being designed around her, Faverau certainly thought she was going to be working with him on a Disney Star Wars show for many years. Just because there was no current contract, their behaviour shows they were treating her like an active employee.
She was on contract for Mando season 2 and maybe more seasons and there was discussion of her own show and Jon Favreau was a big supporter of hers. What's cool about Gina is she was no 90 lb Mary Sue but a real warrior fighter who looked the part so this is girl boss done right and she has legions of fans. Yes she was an employee but like all employees anyone can get fired for whatever reason when someone is out to get you. Honestly Disney would be smart to bring her back as it'll help with ratings.
Jon Favreau informed Gina, in October 2020, that Disney had given him the go-ahead to produce, Rangers Of The New Republic. By December 2020, Favreau had already completed 2 scripts for the series; with The Pilot being given to Gina to read. Paul Sun-Hyung Lee (Captain Carson Teva) supposedly also got to see The Pilot, as well, since he was going to be playing Cara Dune's partner in Adelphi Squad. When Kennedy pulled the crap she did, she screwed a large number of people who would've been involved in that guaranteed success of a SW show...all because she hated the fact that all of the female characters from The Mandoverse were being praised and adored by general SW Fans, inc. the DREADED MALE SW FANS; which made characters like Rey, Rose Tico, Admiral Holdo, etc. look like the faulty, over-baked creations they are; which demolished her narrative that women should be a major force in running SW storytelling...STUPID and UNLAWFUL.
My prediction is that the discovery is going to hurt Disney, or at the very least it is going to reveal a lot of cringe statements by Disney.
Nothing we don't already know. But it will mention names. 😱
And hopefully open a lot of new lawsuits and investigations into them.
Regarding the "But if she said this..." hypothetical, why not turn it around? What if Disney fired someone for posting an Instragram image of their pancake breakfast because Disney wants their audience to like waffles?
This is exactly why most common people are skeptical of the "corporate persons" legal argument. Too often it amounts to corporations asserting greater legal rights than the people. I can respect that a business needs some protections to conduct themselves as they see fit, but if they cannot show how the conduct at issue is RELEVANT to the business, then they have no grounds to interfere with the rights of the individual.
Disney double standard vs a California law meant to protect commies. Gotta love the irony. 😂
My hope is that all this will be revealed to the public and on display. Hopefully, this will be the final nail in the coffin. Disney has destroyed all of my favorite things between Marvel and Lucas Film. I hope that a hostile takeover is in their future.
You sound like a child
@@christheghostwriter you sound like a shill who can't define what a woman is.
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@WaltRight lol - nope, the law doesn't work that way. Go read the CA law. What others do or don't do have no bearing. Indeed, they would have had the same case she does.
@WaltRight Good grief - *if* they got fired they would have the same exact case.
Reading is hard - derp!
@WaltRight No kidding. Holy cow, quit being so eager to talk past me - we agree!
@WaltRight If you think I'm defending Disney then you have a SERIOUS reading comprehension problem. Slow down there and stop flying off the handle. You're all over the place in these comments.
We all know what Amandla Stenberg said in a TV Show about a certain pale dwmographic and that her goal was to make them cry... If she can starr 2 roles in M.r Weinsteins former secretarys TV show, Disney have a bit explaining to do regarding Gina.
There was no obligation for Disney to announce their feelings about Gina, and they could’ve simply not cast her. Instead, they went out of their way to make declarative statements about her character and actions which were demonstrably false and clearly designed to poison the waters for any future work. As an employer, they should know better than to directly interfere with future employability and the price should be high enough to discourage anyone from ever trying the same in three future. I am thinking 1B per month of unemployment, or Disney’s rights to Star Wars.
They're running a business. They were under fire. And her behavior was utterly reprehensible. Disney is allowed to say so. They're allowed to tell their shareholders and customers that they're disgusted. The truth is a defense against defamation charges. It's true that she made those selfish nasty, ignorant statements. And, presumably, it's true that Disney was as disgusted by her behavior as any reasonable adult would be
I'm curious: how did you first hear about all this? Was it from Disney first, or from Carano first?
"which were demonstrably false"
lolol no they weren't
@@christheghostwriter I read the story, followed it to the tweet in question, and literally saw the opposite of what Disney described. It’s amazing you didn’t know that, or did you? You did, didn’t you? Labor protection laws apply to Disney just like every other employer, but I bet you knew that too.
This lawyer is brilliant. He actually talks in a language that non lawyers can understand. Also the history of the law is extremely interesting
In my opinion and just as a guess if this actually does make it to discovery disney will use this as a vehicle to either not renew or out right fire KK finally
Oh, that would be delicious. However, I'd say, The Acolyte is enough of a reason to let Kennedy's contract run out in October.
No KK is untouchable. Hubby is top exec and no one dares harm her.
@@jonfreeman9682I’d guess old Frank is tired of her crap too? seeing him embarrassingly lead Kathy off the stage during Spielberg’s snub at Indy 5’s opening, shows a defeated man, who’s willing to toss her under the bus?
Wishful thinking... i get it but ...nah.
Take them to the mat Gina!
DEIsney saying they're an entertainment company, they used to be, but they threw that away and became a propaganda platform
Cry it out, little fella
Honey, she was obviously political. How about both sides stop?
Hail @ValliantRenegade! Nice to see you in ComixDivision's and Clobberin'Time(s) chats this week!
I miss Comix. He is way way way overdue for my live show
I love it when Ron is on.
nothing would make me happier than to see Disney go under.
Gina is the epitome of what woke Disney is supposed to love, a strong woman.
FOR REAL
All this bullshit about Hedland and KK, wanting of female force and then they fire Carano. Third damn hypocrites I love Carano and her character. She’s awesome the Mandalorian she kicked ass. I hope she wins her lawsuit. Disney sucks.
Q for Ron. What happens if Disney refuses to provide any material for Discovery? What if they provide only partial material and withhold other material during Discovery?
Gina needs an apology and reinstated to the Mandalorian series THIS will restore good faith in Disney.
So they will never do it... Full throttle to the ground, wings fly off. "fudgeit, we are a missle" -Disney pilot.
Interesting. When working for a defense contractor, social media policy was that I was ALWAYS representing my company online and exercise responsible decorum. Wonder what SM policy ( if an) Disney has in their contract s.
Yes but you were an employee - Disney claims she was a mere contractor (LOL), and you likely wouldn't even be talked to about posts like the ones Gina made. If you had made posts like Mark Hamill or Pedro Pascal they might have asked you to take them down but they likely couldn't have fired you over them in California.
@@gunnar6674 Contractors can have SM guidelines in their contract. Did Disney have guidelines in writing? If so, were they clear about was/ was not acceptable ?
I hope Carano is being funded by a secret billionaire, so she can afford the best legal team, and keep this running.
It's no secret. Elan Musk is funding the lawsuit.
@@BorderTerriersRule I didn't know. Nice one.
What's Elon's beef again? Why is he involved?
@@jonfreeman9682 Because he has the funds to back Carano against the aholes at Disney. At least it means Disney is leaking even more money...and that's always good.
@jonfreeman9682 Elon put it on Twitter/X a year or two ago that if anyone could show that they were fired for something they said on Twitter that he would take care of the lawsuit.
Gina reached out to Elon via Twitter.
He and his lawyers thought Gina had a case.
I still see Disney giving her what she wants, to keep this out of Discovery, and her return is part of the marketing for the Mandalorian movie.
They'll pay her to stay quiet. Disney don't like bad publicity and want to maintain their pristine image. Don't think they'll hire her back and she says she doesn't want to come back either.
I don't think either Elon or Gina are interested in settling - they are interested in sending a counter message.
Sucks to be Disney for tangling with someone with the same resources they have.
Gina is not the type to take hush money, she wants her name cleared and to make sure that Disney/Lucasfilm can't do this to anyone else,
Elon Musk has a personal bone to pick with Disney as well.
Hush money is not happening, Disney won't get away that easy this time, this is not somebody looking for a payout, this is somebody looking for revenge.
Why is K K still working in Disney did she not do damage to everything she mess with dose she have something on the board and iger to keep on doing damage to Star Wars and Disney
I just want to know why is she still working there
Hope she makes the right decision for her, but sure wouldn’t mind if it means dragging Disney through a trial.
The fact that the others didn't face the same push back from Disney is telling! Gina is allowed to have an opinion, she was not pushing any political view, but Pascal and Hamill definitely were out to belittle any fan who voted differently than they did.
I never noticed the flag behind Ron. Is that a revolutionary flag as intended?
Disney has been a big disappointment for years.
No,
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Whatever happened to having Legal Mindset on any of these channels. I have not seen him here with you guys in ages.
He's decided to grift off the vtuber sphere - he's too good for Disney :p
@@DocNo27 oh he is still on Disney, there just hasn't been much movement in the Gina case.
But yes the V-Tuber stuff he keeps posting... is uhm... not something i click on.
@@ZeroB4NG He found an audience - there were a lot of bad legal takes in the V-tuber space that he could address, and since he's interested in cross-jurisdiction issues between Asian and US companies that is in his wheelhouse just like the Disney parks issues in Florida.
Lose what? She's the one that was supposed to have a whole show 😂
All of this still doesn’t cover the organized and directed campaign of harassment that was set against her.
Never understood that. Like she hasn't wronged anyone but they seem to be on this vendetta against her. She's a popular character in Mando and the smart money would bring her back and there are talks of her own show. Jon Favreau was a huge supporter of her and tried to get her back but the women there I'm guessing KK has some thing against her.
@@jonfreeman9682 When is the last time you saw ‘smart money’ at Disney? 😂
This will stir it up again
@@jonfreeman9682she attacked kids
@@rensinclair4218 Kathleen Kennedy attacked KIDS? When did that happen?
This is a Slam Dunk for Gina 🙏🏻🙏🏻 she won’t settle and bring the house of woke DOWN!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I would normally say that Carrano doesn't have a chance, but the justice system is so crooked, who knows?
You got me black listed at hop sing's
Hail Gina for the WIN! 👏💯🏆 ✨️
I spent $100 for my Cara Dune figure.
Disney has double standards
The decision WAS earth shattering to Gina and the show itself.
She was true girl boss warrior with legions of fans that love and support her. Jon Favreau fought for her and there were plans for her own show but not sure what happened. Jon Favreau was definitely on board and she was on track for stardom. No idea who derailed her and if KK was even involved.
I guarantee she thinks your hat is funny, too. You rationalize like a lawyer.
Seems that the Judge would need Discovery to rule on any motion, as this looks to be. Disney's team is saying 'yeah, but, if..."
"If" is not a truthful fact.
If evidence is needed, then the case survives the motion to dismiss. This motion is about if the pleading could succeed even if all the allegations are true, and it seems it maybe could succeed.
im for gina but how the world is nowadays its not a slam dunk . the world needs to come back to normal where people can have their own beliefs
🇺🇸 GO GINA GO! 🇺🇸
I really hope we can excise the cancer from Disney without destroying it. It is a cultural icon, I would hate to lose it completely.
Disney, in the past several years, has only been successful at fucking everything up. Its impressive... Most impressive.
I hope it doesn't go the way Disney wants they were dead wrong for doing that and it really is time that they get in trouble for it
Walt Disney Co is a public company...She's got a case.
As an adjuster that handles civil rights litigation and cases citing violations of free speech (the Unruh Act as I'm in California), this litigation is going exactly as one would expect. Disney is trying to kill this litigation with a motion to dismiss. As an adjuster I would expect to motion to fail, and I would be assessing the options once it fails. Does Disney want to go through litigation and have to answer discovery? Only Disney knows what potentially could be turned over. Is it going to be worse for those things to come to light? If so, I would expect Disney to immediately try to position the case for early settlement discussions. I would not be shocked if there would be an early mediation and that they will have a settlement that will not be publicly exposed. Disney world rather do that then have their dirty laundry come out and potentially have an adverse verdict.
I don't think either Gina or Elon have ANY interest in settling. Sucks to be Disney.
I would argue that investors are supposed to have legal protection from the Company's political views causing widespread financial losses. Simply because the company is choosing to inject those views into high profile shows that never had those views. As well as the fact the Company has a fiduciary duty that is legally binding to look out for investors interest over their political interests. Yet their focus here is an Actor using their 1st amendment right outside of the the "high profile show." You can also show that her firing lead to further financial damages to investors. So really when Disney is arguing this they are also admitting they violated their fiduciary duty. Just as we see official interviews with people Disney casts in other shows speaking volumes of vile hateful attacks against the fanbase and causing even more financial damage to investors... yet Disney takes no action there because it is a mirror of the same political beliefs they are pushing. At the end of the day Disney is in the wrong PERIOD because they have violated fiduciary duty and really what should be happening is an investor lawsuit. So when I hear "it's their company"... well no it's not. They are losing others peoples money. If they want to prop up whatever political view and take the losses... you do that as a Private Company with zero fiduciary duty. PERIOD.
My question? If Gina posseses slanderous email on Disney. Can she release them if the trial is dismissed?