How To Lay An Indian Sandstone Patio Using Honed Stone
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- How To Lay An Indian Sandstone Patio Using Honed Stone
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This geezers videos in general are gold. I spend my commute back and forth watching them. I'm not even landscaping
Thank you
Just love that mixer. It has seen a good bit of life.
Loved how the cat was interested in your work John at 8 mins 😂
Lol
Only reason I watched the whole.video 😁
What's the pussies perspective.
Watched 100s of vids before tackling my own garden I found yours most helpful. Thanks
So nice of you, cheers Craig
My hat goes off you any full time scrapers. I've just finished laying 80sqm of Indian Sandstone Sawn & honed and it's been Hard Graft! You advice has helped
Cheers Glenford mate thats very kind , stay safe mate
Great video and the patio is looking really good. I could see the little ginger guy indoors was making sure everything was being done correctly
Thanks 👍 lol love it
Wish I'd discovered your videos before I attempted my limestone patio. You have a great way of explaining the job and your work looks great.
Glad to help thank you Richard, always here to help any time, be safe
Awesome to see you pulling out the stops on a Saturday the customer 9/10 always appreciates it couldn’t agree more with the fall on the slabs , did well with the rain as well , nice to see your wife mucking in with the slab shifting there not the lightest things in the world 👍🏻
Thank you, kind words.. she helps a lot ..stay safe
The cat was loving watching you lads work
lmao he did
The barrow looks like it's had a fair amount of use.... Patio looks great!
Thank you Ibran
Your a very good mentor/ tutor I have learnt so much from you your one of the best out there, always look forward to watching your videos.
Looking great, regards the sandstone I just do a light jetwash in April and apply 50/50 bleach and water with a stiff brush. Comes up a treat every year.
Thanks Jack, love your response as it clearly works for you and love to hear more back from you.stay safe mate
You present really well, Johny. Keep to more vids like this, I reckon you'll help a lot of people! Thanks!
Thanks that means a lot, hank you for your kind words I am doing my best, stay safe
Very helpful, thanks.
Pleasure
That mixers seen some action! Like my old one..and it's still going!
Nice work that 👍
Thanks 👍 lol its gone now well the drum has
Looks great can’t wait to see the finished product!
Thanks,
DC
Thank you Sir
Thanks Johny. I will send some pictures later. Cheers Kev
no worries Kev mate
Great videos Jonny,I find them so informative, no bullshit and you tell it how it is.. I am preparing and levelling my area for a patio, will be using honed sandstone, I will be using a slurry mix as you suggested, my sub base will compacted as you suggest, laying 900 x 600 slabs. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍
Hi Dave mate steer clear of the slurry grout for Honed stone f I was you as its a bit problematic mate but I did get aw with it just mat thank you for watching.
@@GreentopLandscapes hi Jonny thanks replying, really appreciate it, my apologies blooming predictive text took over, I am actually going to lay a Smooth sandstone slab 20 mil thick, 900 x 600. Do you recommended the easy prime that buy pre mixed ? Look forward to your reply. Cheers mate
Great work
Thank you! Cheers!
I love your work
Thanks Jaggi
Brilliant videos, would you advice pre sealing the slabs or sealing as a hole once laid, cheers
Thanks Kev Nate, I think pre sealing has advantages
I love it when the young lads go on about cross joints Johnny, I often look at their work and there is not one flag squared to the next, and in their cases I wouldn’t want cross joints either, but when everything is square it looks great however!!😁
lol
Nice vid mate. Landscape for life.
It sure is
Thanks mate very helpful
No problem 👍 thank you for watching
Great video. Once you've tapped down the slabs with a mallet to level them, do you then remove the mortar from the joints before moving on to the next slab? Wondering if this is the best practice so that the joints are suitable for pointing once the mortar is dry. Many thanks.
Yes and yes, absolutely Richarde mate, 100% thanks for watching
Good work mate
Thanks 👍
Hi Jonny, I’m attempting my own patio using the same paving in the video. I don’t suppose you caught on video how you worked around the drain pipes? I have an idea but would like to see how you do it?
Videos have been a great help by the way so thanks! 👍🏼
I will get on it Wayne mate
@@GreentopLandscapes Great stuff! Thanks mate....very much appreciated!
Nice 👍 tips
I’m in the middle of doing my own
Thanks
Hope it’s going well
@@GreentopLandscapes
Done it once before at my last house . But first time on this scale 40ish meter size . Dug out by hand , (first mistake) bigger job than thought filled the skip , MOT down rented a wacker plate , Weather and spare stopping the tile laying tiles , not renter a cement mixer so might be hard work with a paddle.
Fantastic video. I'm planning on an area 4 x 8 for a swing chair. As is on the grass and far from level. Is it best yo use the sub base to get it level or when cementing? Thanks
Sub Base First Shaun mate
Beautiful job! What kind of material is the backside slurry?
Thanks buddy, there are various types of slurry mixes that you can purchase if the shelf.
Instamac is a good one
Cracking workmanship jb , i started mine yesterday and I must say it's looking ok for a first timer 😀
Nice one!keep me updated
@@GreentopLandscapes that disk is amazing thanks for putting me on it 😀
Unbelievable how many slabs you put down in a day 👍👍👍
A few mate
Great video, i'm a new subscriber and find your videos well presented and informative and a great watch as i am about to put a patio in at home for the first time 👍
Welcome aboard! Cheers Rob mate
Great work with more information thanks
So nice of you
Top knock 👍👍
That ginger site manager kept checking up on you 🐈
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We're getting the same honed slabs put in, do you use any sort of pointing/jointing between the slabs and if so, which do you recommend? Can you use any type on a honed slab? Many thanks mate
Great video it's probably about time you got a new cement mixer
Thanks Mack, that Mixer has some time to go.
You can always just buy a new drum if the motors good.
Looks fantastic! Can’t wait to see it finished.
Me too! Hi Kevin mate thanks alot, where have you been?
Hi, I’ve been busy at work and been decorating at home but now I’ve finished so now I can watch RUclips. Thanks for asking.
Looking good John 👍👍
Thank you so much, stay safe
Great Video Thanks. Quick question, I’m totally confused on how to make the slurry. I have 45sq meters if the honed Kandla Grey sandstone to lay on my patio. I have got 2 x 5ltr tubs of SBR.
Is it SBR/Cement/water for the slurry? Or is just near SBR ok. What is the ratio for the slurry please. Any help appreciated.
Hi James, if our not sure buy some slurry mix but you can mix some sbr with neat cement and may be a little sharp sand and water to a creamy consistency so its sticks to the back of the slab, this is why its best to buy it if your not sure mat, sme just use SBR, stay safe matee
Hi Johny quality work n great videos just a quick question I've laid a solid concrete base around 15 square metres can I lay sandstone slabs on top of this n then use the easy joint fill at the back of this I see on another video u explaining about water escaping I've left a border around the area for gravel for drainage so I'm hoping to use the easy joint instead of mixing sand and cement for pointing any advice on this would be appreciated thanks
Hi Steven mate thanks for watching and your kind words, It would not be best to use Easy joint for this as the concrete wont allow the water to permeate, but the concrete should be fine mate, stay safe
@@GreentopLandscapes thanks for the advice m8 what al do is traditional sand n cement pointing for the finish thanks again you too m8 stay safe n keep up the good work n videos 👍⚽️👍
Lovely job👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Great job I'm about to do the same which primer do you use?how big are you're joints and do you use any plastisers in the mix?👍
Hi Ryan, I use Easy Prime or mix my own, and I am starting to use a 5mmm joint,stay safe
Hi Jonny boy,you keep saying about slurry on the back of these tiles,iam a bricklayer not a ground worker but iam putting black limestone down would you recommend putting it on flags,limestone, etc 🤔😷
Hi Anthony mate thanks for watching mate, I would say that all paving now needs a slurry as it is generally so thin, its Belt & Braces mate, it wont take long and the cost is minimal. Stay Safe mate
Great videos 👏 looking to do my own so very much appreciate these , how do you decide on a pattern ?
Hi Paul, thanks for watching mate, the laying pattern is a random lay so I lay it randomly avoiding to long a straight joint and cross joints as many see it as a big no no, stay safe mate
Great video! Quick question,do you need to put decorative stones round the edge of a new patio for drainage purposes? We don’t really want stones down but a couple of quotes have said u need them for drainage.either that or an eco drain? Thanks
Hi there thanks for the feedback really appreciate it. The stones do allow drainage but are a good contrast to the paving
Great Vid , Could I lay this on 30 year old existing sharp sand bed once I have taken up the old flags? It's never moved since it was laid all those years ago , so I guess it's sound.
Thanks for the video, what are you brushing on the underside of the slabs please?
A slurry Tony
Could you do a video on cross joints and priming sandstone before laying 😊
What do you mean
what do you mean? is placement the level of patio higher-end then dumpcourse ok? or no? othervise, all would be diged out, to level under dump course. thanks for meaning.
@@TheMortimor2 I’m not quite sure what you mean I will have a listen
Eyyyyyyyy "Belt & Braces". 👍🏾
Cheers thank you
I really like your work - terrific. One thing / how come your spec is lean mix on type 1. I’d always thought type 1 75mm minimum but 100mm on clay soil with 1 in 5 mix straight on top. Not critical just wondering why specs differ.
Hi David mate, generally I would take all the clay out but if it keeps going I would use a geo tetile stabilizer, thn MOT then a Lean mix well compacted as well
@@GreentopLandscapes thank you. It was the lean mix that I didn’t understand. Why would you use lean mix on top of the MOT? Cheers David
Looks very good, what do you use to prime your slabs with before laying?
Yes mate
Looks great! What’s the ideal sub base for this? 4-6 inch compacted gravel? And just regular concrete?
Hi bud Gravel cn move a bit so you will still need some sub base.
Do you sponge it off with just water or warm soapy water? Seems like the light sandstone can pickup stains fast
Wash boy and sponge buddy
Hello great videos very helpful thanks...I have a question how much sand and cement would I need for laying 36m2 of Indian stone I don't want to order too much or too little thanks mate
Hi Big Pete, it always depends on how thick you are laying it, but there was roughly 33m2 on this job and I used 2 ton mate, stay safe
@@GreentopLandscapes thanks mate keep up the good work :)
Hi johnyboy, I'm after some more professional advice if you could help me out buddy.
So me and my friend have laid 20m2 of honed raj 600x900 sandstone pavers.
I hit bad ground (Solid clay) so I took out 250mm and back filled with type 1 mot before laying on a full bed.
I went with the Azpects mushroom jointing compound to allow the water to get away through the joints.
My question is after all that hard ground work my pavers are so porous I have decided they need sealing.
If I seal the slabs and joints will the joints not allow water through as the extra depth will seem pointless?
Or if the joints won't allow water through can I just sponge on the sealer paver by paver avoiding sealing the joints??
I would like to say thanks again for your in depth easy to understand videos and I'm looking forward to hearing your opinions.
Hi Micheal, that’s a great question, my concealed are that you still have clay underneath and the infiltration rates if the water will always be a slight problem with a grout that is porous and if your using a sealer you need to know if your sealer is compatible with the Easygrout so I think you should be asking the companies if the products your going to use my freind.
@@GreentopLandscapes Hi Johnyboy, thanks for the quick reply and your time.
Like I said I have layed 600x900 pavers so I only have 32 to seal without too many joints.
I think I will do 2 coats with a sponge paver by paver avoiding the joints as much as possible and see what reaction the pavers in heavy downpours.
Maybe give a 3rd coat in the Autumn over the joints also if required depending on what happens.
Thanks again for your time I really appreciate it, take care buddy.
Hi I’ve started to lay a lime stone patio and after a couple of days some of the slaps sound hollow when you tap them. The mix I used was 4 -1 sharp sand and the consistency was dry’ to wet Do you think I need to relay to the slaps which sound hollow. O yeh great video’s and I’ve learnt a lot from you.thank Daimo
full bed mate and slurry the back
Perfec
Hello ☺️ Can you please give us some advice 🙏🏻 We have just laid Pure Mint White Indian Stone Sawn & Honed and they look brown and awful 😞 Is there anything we can do? We tried The Tile Master No.3 but its doesn’t work 😩please please help 🙏🏻 Thank you
Hi John just a query would you recommend using spacers if you are a beginner at this type of work thanks Stewart
Hi Stewart mate we all need to use spacers it’s a must
What the best way to get beer stains out of these flags. Didn’t seal them stupidly before I had a bbq 😩now there’s light grubby stains all over. Love your vids taught me a lot any advice would be greatly appreciated👌
Adrian thank you mate, there is loads out there try some bleach first
How do you avoid cross joints?, also do you work from a pattern sheet?, or do you just do your own pattern
I do my own pattern bud, just got to watch it no magic solution
Beautiful patio, love the calibrated slags very modern and neat. where are you guys based?
Hi Will thank you for your feedback I appreciate it, the paving is beautiful, I agree with you. We are based in Wales but we travell all. over the UK and we have been across the waters some times. Stay safe
great video thanks.
What is your mortar mix and what is your slurry mix? Please . TIA
5 to 1 all sharp
Skills
Jrj landscaping 👍
How come you wet the underside of the slabs before laying ? Better adhesion to the mix?
We slurry prime now
@@GreentopLandscapes thanks, after commenting this I have seen your video on slurry mixing, thanks for your content
Thanks for the great video advice Johnny. I’m taking up old concrete slabs badly layed on a base of sand 40mm deep on top of the MOT. should I remove this sand and put down some dust stone to get the levels correct. Cheers Kev.
Sounds like a plan Kev mate, send us some pictures
What’s the best sealer for smooth grey Indian sandstone , I’d like a wet shine finish if possible
I’m putting this in my garden now. What’s the best wet look sealer for this stone.
Speak with Graham at Floorseal
Will sandstone stain with bird dropping?
For sure
Johnny, what you've done here is pretty much the exact job I've got to do. I've got to cover 17.5 mtrs and I've got 19.5 mtr crate of slabs. How many bulk bags of MOT and sand would you have used on this job? I'm digging 3 bricks down below my damp course line - will that be enough do you reckon?
I may have missed it but how thick is the mortar layer?
no more thaan 50mm mate sorry for the delay in responding
Can you point it up with sand and cement mix with a trowel..
You can do reg but be consistent with your mixed and make sure its moist and do a little at time don't bite off more than you can chew.
@@GreentopLandscapes Thanks, yeah what with my sciatica i will only do a bit at a time...
it will be me soon bud@@regwatts
110% Johnny.
Love your simple Comment Andrew Mate, Stay safe
Hi Jon loving the videos. I am a new follower and hooked. I am looking to do a patio and love the tips from the videos. With the sandstone are you follow a set pattern for laying? stay safe
Awesome, thank you! no set pattern bud
What is your San cement mix ratio,
And what do u use as slurry .
Cheers les.
Hi Leslie 5 sharp 1 Cement and at the moment I use Bal Priming slurry
Can I please ask ? How long after laying Indian sandstone paving can you apply a sealer. Thanks. Love the channel by the way, Keep up the good work.
Hi George mate I would wait at leat 2 months and you want to perfectly dry, I am currently working on a perfect sealer.
Hi great video. I was wondering how you approach the riven Indian sandstone. Because of the texture of each slab, sometimes there can be a difference of three or four mm on the surcace of the slab therefore its difficult to know where to place the spirit level. Basically if a slab isn't level itself how do you go about achieving a level patio?
Hi Jamie thank you for watching, it’s about taking an average across the top mate happy to talk.
@@GreentopLandscapes thanks for the prompt reply. I think I know what you mean. So it's not necessarily about the edges of each slab being in perfect alignment with the adjacent slab but as long as they are both level over there combined distance.?
Its a privilege to be able to learn from you John, thanks for uploading.
I wondered if you'd be kind enough to advise if I could lay Indian Sandstone on top of an old, stable existing concrete path...If I laid the slabs on it with just a mortar layer?(and SBR slurry to the slabs too) If so, and not going out too wide (around 1.5m) Could I just start my bed higher at the house edge (keeping under DPC) and reduce the mortar thickness as I work outwards to create a fall? Any advice is gratefully received! :)
Yes, absolutely happy to talk
Did you use spacers or just lay them with joints width by eye ??
By eye with sandstone mate, thanks for watching and stay safe
Do you need to slurry the back of concrete slabs?
It all helps
@@GreentopLandscapes thanks! Doing my first DIY patio. 16m2. Any pointers?
Can you make your own slury seal ?
You can darren mate, but never sure how good. it is long term, it seems to work.
Hi Johnny boi What's the deeps a semi dry bed of motar can be?
no more than 50mm
Lovely job John, would you mind telling me the mix your using for your diy bridging bond please, 👍
My pleasure, 5 to one 5 sharp
Greentop Landscapes & Design cheers john, is that for the slurry?
Thanks for your time
Thanks for the video. I am laying Camel Dust Honed next week and just asking for advise on what you would recommend pointing it with ? and what did you use to point the honed stone in this video. Thanks a lot
No problem, so many products mate, honed stone can be a nightmare, happy to talk
I have been laying indian sandstone for over 15 years and just using sharp sand makes a terrible laying mix, i always have a mix of sharp and soft sand
Fairplay
Hi John, big fan of your channel. Wanted to ask you about the lean mix you regulate the sub with. Do you use ballast or sharp sand for this method and how thick are you laying it ? Thanks in advance, Bernard.
Hi Bernard, thank you for taking time to watch my videos really appreciate it and your kind words, in answer to your question I use Ballast and if I can get 75mm over the su base I am happy as it gives some rigidity and will ensure thhe Laying mortar adheres to the Lean mix better, whats your thoughts mate, stay safe my friend.
Greentop Landscapes & Design thanks for the information John, I’ve never tried it this way I usually bed the mortar on the type 1 but I have a project starting this week where I could try this method. I presume you run a Wacker over the lean mix or do just give it the back of the shovel ?
Patio looking great John 👍🏻.
Did you decide to pre seal the slabs on site before you layed them like you was discussing in your previous video after?
Hi Jarred Mate, thanks for your comment. It was to late on this occasion has it had not been discussed with the client, but it will always be an option we will offer in our quotes now . Thanks for your support mate and stay safe
Whats a lean mix?
Lean concrete provides a uniform surface to the foundation surface and prevent direct contact of the foundation concrete with the soil.
Lean concrete is used under the foundation.
It forms a solid concrete bed where the placing of steel reinforcement is easily done for the foundation works.
It prevents the direct contact of foundation concrete from the soil.
It provides the protection of the main foundation from the soil below, because moisture or other chemicals in the soil such as sulfates can attack the concrete and weaken it.
Lean concrete is a mixture where the amount of cement used is less than the amount of liquid present in the strata.Lean concrete is that concrete which has high aggregates to cement ratio.
In technical terms ,if the cement content of the mix falls out to be lesser than 10 percent than the mix is called as lean concrete mix.
The higher the aggregate / cement ratio, the more the concrete bends. In lean solids, less amount of paste is available to provide smoothness, aggregates per unit surface and therefore mobility of aggregates is restricted.
All slabs should have no straight lines it should all end at a t
Why and what is the lad painting on the underside of the stone?
Slurry
Hi, do you make your own slurry and what do you use
Hi Adrian, Yes I have many times but i do think manufactured products are better, stay safe
What stones did you use on this job please?
honed silver grey
Just noticed. Nice mixer lads. U have a apprentice with a lump hammer lol
Do you need to prime the limestone the same was as sandstone John? Cheers
I prime every thing now mate
Hi whats the mix or primer you brush onto back of each slab..great work.
Is this Kandla grey ?
Yes, but honed stone
@@GreentopLandscapes sir how can I contact you
Go to the website and give me a ring mate
Hi johnny, whats this lean mix your using on the base?
Hi Joe its a week concrete mix mate, what is used in road bulding
@@GreentopLandscapes so does this go over the 100mm type 1? Also what mix is it and what depth? Do you always use this method now?
Thanks, joe.