Great explanation. What I don't understand is how the factor reaction time works? Like why does the kinetic product eventually convert into the thermodynamic product? No new energy is added to overcome the larger activation energy barrier of the thermodynamic product. Thanks!
Great question! You're absolutely right that no new energy is added, but keep in mind that the distribution of molecules in the reaction changes over time. It's all based on relative activation energies. Early in the reaction we have mostly the starting material (SM), which converts mostly into the kinetic product (KP) due to the lower activation energy leading to it. A little bit of thermodynamic product (TP) forms. Now, if we focus on the activation energies of the REVERSE reactions, we see that the KP reverts back to SM faster than TP. Thus, KP will eventually be funneled to TP due to its greater rate of reversion to the starting material.
If we change the temperature doesn't delta G of both reactions change? So how do we know that after changing the temperature p1 isn't more thermodynamicaly favorable than p2?
If the reaction as a whole is reversible, it's thermodynamically controlled, not kinetically controlled. "Reversible" in essence means that the forward and reverse reactions are proceeding at equal rates; i.e., that the reaction system is in equilibrium (caveat: this is the organic chemist's "back of the envelope" definition. The definition in physical chemistry is more rigorous.)
Is your activation energy correct? (0:20 - 0:25) I think activation energy is the whole value from the energy level of the starting material, all the way up to the peak of the transition state. Your second (right hand side) activation energy seems correct proceeding from left to right.
Good question-for anyone still confused by this, note that the graph is showing two different reactions proceeding outward from the center. Thus, two separate activation energies are shown.
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Great explanation. What I don't understand is how the factor reaction time works? Like why does the kinetic product eventually convert into the thermodynamic product? No new energy is added to overcome the larger activation energy barrier of the thermodynamic product.
Thanks!
Great question! You're absolutely right that no new energy is added, but keep in mind that the distribution of molecules in the reaction changes over time. It's all based on relative activation energies. Early in the reaction we have mostly the starting material (SM), which converts mostly into the kinetic product (KP) due to the lower activation energy leading to it. A little bit of thermodynamic product (TP) forms. Now, if we focus on the activation energies of the REVERSE reactions, we see that the KP reverts back to SM faster than TP. Thus, KP will eventually be funneled to TP due to its greater rate of reversion to the starting material.
If we change the temperature doesn't delta G of both reactions change? So how do we know that after changing the temperature p1 isn't more thermodynamicaly favorable than p2?
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how is kinetic control used to affect the outcome of a chemical reaction where several reaction paths are available
If you have a reaction that A+B->C, and it is only reversible then the only conclusion that you can make is that is kinetically controlled right?
If the reaction as a whole is reversible, it's thermodynamically controlled, not kinetically controlled. "Reversible" in essence means that the forward and reverse reactions are proceeding at equal rates; i.e., that the reaction system is in equilibrium (caveat: this is the organic chemist's "back of the envelope" definition. The definition in physical chemistry is more rigorous.)
Is your activation energy correct? (0:20 - 0:25)
I think activation energy is the whole value from the energy level of the starting material, all the way up to the peak of the transition state. Your second (right hand side) activation energy seems correct proceeding from left to right.
Good question-for anyone still confused by this, note that the graph is showing two different reactions proceeding outward from the center. Thus, two separate activation energies are shown.
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