Thank you for posting these clips. The look on Martin Sheen's face was so powerful. He looked like a father walking his little girl down the aisle and with each step she grew older. No longer the 4 year old standing in no-man's land. As people keep saying, the acting and writing in TWW was so excellent.
I loved this, Ellie could stop wars. Avoiding her father seeming to be more the mother's child, but though the other children were much more involved with him, she idolized him the most. Surgeon general set him straight, and this developed into a lovely exploration of the difficult but rewarding relationship parents can have with their quieter child.
I don't recall this wedding. Are you sure that was Barlett's intent? It might be the same thing, but I thought that Barlett was buying time and hoping that sober reflections would prevail.
@@henrys4838 Maybe not the entire reason, but it does give everyone time to think and come up with solutions, and he attends is daughter's wedding - an hour to not think about series matters.
So Zoe played by Moss ended up with the most screen time...but Ellie really had her own personality that Pres. Bartlett loved and couldn't quite predict. I thought she was more interesting and just as well acted.
Elle was always my feverite daughter. I wish we got to meet President Bartlets sister and brother. They were mentioned once and we never got to see them.
President Bartlett can hold his own against nuclear powers and belligerent Congressmen and hostile terrorists, but his defenses will always break down against Ellie. I know he doesn't play favorites, but she is his best daughter.
Can you upload that clip where he's in China at the conference and he sneaks away with the guy who's the actual leader...can't find that clip anywhere on youtube
😄 there are some things that are universal across cultures. One of them is a father’s love for his daughter. When this originally aired, I rolled my eyes at the idea of a world leader being moved by appeal to fatherhood. Now? All that was agreed to was a one hour pause in a conversation. I can totally see that. I grew up at the tail end of the Cold War. I am reminded of “Russians” by Sting: _What might save us me and you_ _is if the Russians love their children, too_ (Not that I actually believed that would save us from nuclear war, just that it speaks to a universal truth about parents. Normal adults ones, at least)
Big fan. But they're Catholic. She wouldn't have been able to be married in "the Catholic Church" without being, literally, in a Catholic Church. Someone please tell me how they explained this one away...I get it that they could have gotten special permission blah, blah,, because after all, the guy is the president and all. Anyway, just kinda bugs me, which I'm sad about because I really do love this show.
As a Catholic, you have to be married in the Catholic Church _unless you get dispensation_ - It’s not an arbitrary rule, it’s done for specific reasons, and because there is a rationale behind it, the church will accept rational arguments for the marriage wedding ceremony to take place elsewhere. There has been a Catholic wedding in the White House before, and I expect that a bishop would be even more likely nowadays to grant permission for the child of a president to be married, their given security concerns, etc. I find it interesting that you take exception to such a trivial point, given the controversies surrounding Bartlett’s Catholicism when the West Wing was airing. I’m not sure what’s harder to wrap my mind around: that it’s actually been so long since the show was aired, or that there has been such a significant shift in culture in the comparatively short time it’s been since this show was aired. Regardless, President Bartletts stance on things like same-sex marriage and abortion provoked outrage among Catholics. His daughter getting married in the White House, especially considering that it was completely plausible, I don’t recall even raising eyebrows
@@gene8172 Dang. This was honestly the first time I've ever submitted a comment on RUclips. Don't think I'll ever do it again. Seems I'm out of my league...
He died 5 days after this episode aired. The episode following this one is where he has the VP debate, so he's fairly central to the plot in that episode, and then his last appearance was in "The Cold" when Santos and Vinick meet with Bartlet at the White House.
@@JamesSmith-xo3vj Yes I'm sure, but there are certain functions of the White House that are government funded (aka tax payer funded) no matter what happens there. For example, the military personnel and secret service that are there, both tactically and ceremonially as he is commander in chief and head of state.
@@SWOBIZ pathetic. I guarantee you that most people who have reached mental and emotional maturity would understand the emotional impact of the moment, and would understand that it is the universality of certain human emotions and motivations that is being highlighted here. (And most people understand the concept of dramatic license.) If you think that people simply recognizing the dynamic between fathers and daughters are being overly emotional, and if you think it’s pathetic that a _drama_ series provided a display of such dynamic, that’s a problem with _you,_ not the show or the people who appreciate the moment for what it is.
Thank you for posting these clips. The look on Martin Sheen's face was so powerful. He looked like a father walking his little girl down the aisle and with each step she grew older. No longer the 4 year old standing in no-man's land. As people keep saying, the acting and writing in TWW was so excellent.
I loved this, Ellie could stop wars. Avoiding her father seeming to be more the mother's child, but though the other children were much more involved with him, she idolized him the most. Surgeon general set him straight, and this developed into a lovely exploration of the difficult but rewarding relationship parents can have with their quieter child.
I've always felt this was one of the more poetic and lovely moments in the show.
The dress was beautiful 😻
I imagine Secret Service more than anyone prefers a White House wedding. It's a venue they can control better than any church or hotel.
What’s happened here is that Bartlett gave Leong a reason to save face. Leong could not back down, Bartlett gave him a reason to.
I don't recall this wedding. Are you sure that was Barlett's intent? It might be the same thing, but I thought that Barlett was buying time and hoping that sober reflections would prevail.
@@henrys4838 Maybe not the entire reason, but it does give everyone time to think and come up with solutions, and he attends is daughter's wedding - an hour to not think about series matters.
This show moves me to tears so often!
I love the very human touch. Despite being President, Bartlett (like most fathers) was a bit overwhelmed by the moment of giving his little girl away.
So Zoe played by Moss ended up with the most screen time...but Ellie really had her own personality that Pres. Bartlett loved and couldn't quite predict. I thought she was more interesting and just as well acted.
This was originally supposed to be Charlie and Zoe's wedding but the actors schedules didn't allow for it.
Elle was always my feverite daughter. I wish we got to meet President Bartlets sister and brother. They were mentioned once and we never got to see them.
"And Then ALL The Soldiers Were Waving At Each Other" 🙏
Fathers are so stoic except when it comes to daughters. They become a puddle of tears.
President Bartlett can hold his own against nuclear powers and belligerent Congressmen and hostile terrorists, but his defenses will always break down against Ellie. I know he doesn't play favorites, but she is his best daughter.
Can you upload that clip where he's in China at the conference and he sneaks away with the guy who's the actual leader...can't find that clip anywhere on youtube
That’s a powerful moment
"I can't put down this damned phone until you tell me that you're not GOING TO START WORLD WAR III TODAY!" -One of my favorite Bartlett lines ever.
Dad, the word that will change your life forever.
😄 there are some things that are universal across cultures. One of them is a father’s love for his daughter.
When this originally aired, I rolled my eyes at the idea of a world leader being moved by appeal to fatherhood. Now? All that was agreed to was a one hour pause in a conversation. I can totally see that.
I grew up at the tail end of the Cold War. I am reminded of “Russians” by Sting:
_What might save us me and you_
_is if the Russians love their children, too_
(Not that I actually believed that would save us from nuclear war, just that it speaks to a universal truth about parents. Normal adults ones, at least)
(President Bartlett) DAMN IT! LEONG! WOULD YOU SHUT UP ALREADY!? 0:42
Maybe the real reason Leong was pissed was that he was invited to the wedding.
The humanity….
'Empire waistline', but the bump wasn't showing . . . .. you wouldn't have thought the fruit-fly guy capable . . .
How much did those flower arrangements add to the budget??
Big fan. But they're Catholic. She wouldn't have been able to be married in "the Catholic Church" without being, literally, in a Catholic Church. Someone please tell me how they explained this one away...I get it that they could have gotten special permission blah, blah,, because after all, the guy is the president and all. Anyway, just kinda bugs me, which I'm sad about because I really do love this show.
Not true. As long as a Cath priest performs the ceremony and confirms to the rite, it can happen anywhere.
As a Catholic, you have to be married in the Catholic Church _unless you get dispensation_ - It’s not an arbitrary rule, it’s done for specific reasons, and because there is a rationale behind it, the church will accept rational arguments for the marriage wedding ceremony to take place elsewhere. There has been a Catholic wedding in the White House before, and I expect that a bishop would be even more likely nowadays to grant permission for the child of a president to be married, their given security concerns, etc.
I find it interesting that you take exception to such a trivial point, given the controversies surrounding Bartlett’s Catholicism when the West Wing was airing. I’m not sure what’s harder to wrap my mind around: that it’s actually been so long since the show was aired, or that there has been such a significant shift in culture in the comparatively short time it’s been since this show was aired. Regardless, President Bartletts stance on things like same-sex marriage and abortion provoked outrage among Catholics. His daughter getting married in the White House, especially considering that it was completely plausible, I don’t recall even raising eyebrows
@@valerierodger Who cares? It's a fictional TV show.
@@gene8172 Dang. This was honestly the first time I've ever submitted a comment on RUclips. Don't think I'll ever do it again. Seems I'm out of my league...
They probably got married twice. In the White House and earlier in the day in a church. One of my friend's did that.
They should have invited the Chinese and the Russians Head of State to the Wedding then there would be No fighting
Is this Leo’s last episode?
He has a few random scenes in later episodes that were filmed early. This is probably his largest screen-time before his death.
He died 5 days after this episode aired. The episode following this one is where he has the VP debate, so he's fairly central to the plot in that episode, and then his last appearance was in "The Cold" when Santos and Vinick meet with Bartlet at the White House.
Hopefully none of that was taxpayer funded.
pretty sure he paid for it himself lol
@@JamesSmith-xo3vj Yes I'm sure, but there are certain functions of the White House that are government funded (aka tax payer funded) no matter what happens there. For example, the military personnel and secret service that are there, both tactically and ceremonially as he is commander in chief and head of state.
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@@tcdan-c2m and the military and Secret Service personnel are there regardless of whether or not there is a wedding taking place
Pathetic. I guarantee you in real life Leong would have exploited the President’s personal weakness to the max.
"Just repeat to yourself, 'It's just a show, I should really just relax!'"
@@QwikMark You should address this to the overly emotional commenters on this channel.
@@SWOBIZ pathetic. I guarantee you that most people who have reached mental and emotional maturity would understand the emotional impact of the moment, and would understand that it is the universality of certain human emotions and motivations that is being highlighted here. (And most people understand the concept of dramatic license.)
If you think that people simply recognizing the dynamic between fathers and daughters are being overly emotional, and if you think it’s pathetic that a _drama_ series provided a display of such dynamic, that’s a problem with _you,_ not the show or the people who appreciate the moment for what it is.
Season five and what followed was total dogshit