Notability is great in apple land but the entire point was something that worked on both sides but mainly for my 2in1. I tried OneNote years ago and it was terrible -- it's gotten so much better!!!😅
One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of universities have a deal with Microsoft giving students free access to office 365 so price might not be an issue for a lot of students.
agree, most university had deal with office 365, i get it from my university for free and all microsoft office desktop app for 5 device, and the 1TB onedrive. thats why for productivity i stick on the office 365.
I agree. I got Office 365 from my college during my time there and they thought they only subscribed to that for the e-mail services! However, the trick is to sign in with the account provided by the college or university, rather than a personal Microsoft account.
Best OneNote feature is audio sync. Record a lecture or meeting while taking notes. Later, click on a area of your notes and the audio will play. Or, play the audio and it will scroll through your notes.
OneNote is a powerhouse! Been using it for years to run a theater and a ton of music festivals. That note taking app has been the backbone to almost 10k shows in my career. And, platform agnostic!! As a technical director, I can tell you the most important software you will ever use in the music industry isn't ProTools or QLab, but MS Office (which makes OneNote even more powerful with outlook integration)
I like that you are not the usual american youtuber that knows only about apple products ... I have been using onenote for more than 5 years ..designing icons/logos/interfaces for my mobile app on my note phone (during brakes at work , on my commute ,etc) , refining them on my ipad / win 2in1 , using them while programming the app on my windows workstation . working now on a game using the same workflow . the multi platform thing is amazing. hopefully it will stay free .
The only bad thing in one note it’s that you can’t set a paper size like an A4 for example, you are stuck with the almost infinte white background, and this is a problem if you wanna print your notes.
Also ink/pen style (?) is mediocre at best. It's super artificial and doesn't mimic real ink at all so someone who want to do fully handwritten notes can be put off by it. If you could use some tool to crop or outline print sections in this infinite whiteboard to make it more print friendly and customize ink/pen style OneNote would be #1 note taking app for many many people.
I've printed notes from One Note before, with the grid background on an A3 sheet (it was meant to be an A3 poster), I think it depends on the Printer settings from the Laptop
@@alus992 I really think it is interesting how people prefer different styles. I hate it when apps think I want to mimic paper. Why would I want to do that? I have escaped the paper and trencendet into the digital space XD I don't want my notes to look like paper, they should look like digital notes
If you use share option to share your textbook and you'll create a link to it and then you'll open the link in web browser and use print option, your textbook will be rescaled to A4 and you can save it as PDF.
I totally agree with you. I switched off Noteability about 4 Months ago. I use both Windows, Mac and an iPad 11 Pro and am totally impressed with Microsoft's integrated Office 365 products. You certainly have a right to be excited. There is nothing better in my opinion.
I went full digital 3 years ago with one note, and as a university student I can confirm the usability. I take every notes on my x360 hp envy and I can modify them anytime on my smartphone...
That's awesome! Ive been thinking about getting an envy x360 as well for school, but i was not sure if the battery life would last and if the fan noise is really disruptive, especially in class. Have u found the device to be good?
@@estelle567 I would totally recommend it. The battery life is not amazing, but it does last enough. The fan noise can be controlled in hp command center
@@estelle567 I had one and mine was shit. I had a key fall off in the first month and had to get it replaced and then my screen corner popped off and I bought it to the shop to get it fixed and they had to replace it again. They no longer make them anymore so they ended up just giving me a store credit. Bear in mind this happened in the span of 6 months.
I am a Chinese junior high student RUclipsr and I am currently using OneNote to take notes while I am studying. However, I didn't know there were some useful features in it. This video helps me a lot to learn some useful features in OneNote. Thanks for sharing very much!
TIP: If you want to avoid the horror of text boxes overlapping, create just one text box. When you want to add content, go to the last line and use cursor to move down. That way you can stay in the same text box. One Note has an infinite canvas and if you ever hope to export your notes to PDF, you have to be careful how wide you make your notes. I use One Note on my Mac all the time and it gets really annoying because double click&drag doesn't select by word as it does in most word processing apps. I have sent several messages to Microsoft One Note feedback, but still nothing. I also miss links from One Note to other apps. One Note creates really cumbersome links that point to One Drive and there are very few apps that are able to open One Note and show the note when clicking a link created in One Note. Most just open a browser. And web version of One Note is not very useful... Other than that, using One Note on Mac, iPad and iPhone is quite fun. I still have a long way to go with 5GB free One Drive storage I got when creating a new outlook.com login for starting One Note.
I used to take notes on it, but it started eating tons and tons of cache (literally 90 GB) when I was on 3h lectures/classes, my notes were as simple as plain text and some few images, but I don't know why the app was climbing my storage so hard, I'm now taking notes with Notion and it's literally incredible and minimalist, ly sara 💖
@FlyingMonkies325 oh tbh i kinda hate google docs 😩 it lags so much on my computer and takes an eternity to load, sometimes it disconnects and i can’t watch offline pages I liked evernote but notion is free with my student e-mail lol and I also love all the templates and aesthetics of the overall notion app, keeps me organized too.
I absolutely agree, I like the design and usability of both Onenote and Notion, but in both cases, you don't own the software your using. Not to mention that if you look at the privacy policy for any of these major companies, all you your notes can be read by anyone at the company who feels like it, without your consent. At the risk of sounding like an ad, I'm going to stick with Joplin for a while, it's getting features faster than major notetaking apps/programs, while giving me control over my notes, where they are stored, and who has access to them. #opensource
Disagree actually, quite like this concept away from "Get off my property!". If you buy an SSD hard drive now, in 5 years it'll be too small and may no longer live. Same with operating systems and apps, all once bought and outdated. The only thing against it is that you create should remain yours: stopping an Office 365 subscription should not mean you lose access to all notes that are then deleted.
OneNote is free and comes installed automatically on Windows 10, or you can download it for free from the Windows Store. Additionally, you can still buy Office 2019 and this includes the desktop application version of OneNote (vs the Windows 10 app). The Office 2019 perpetual license (meaning your license doesn't expire) unlocks local notebook support so you don't have to save OneNote notebooks in the cloud. This means that there is a way to avoid paying a subscription, and you don't have to use the cloud if you don't want to, but you do lose a lot of the features that would come with a Microsoft 365 subscription. Additionally, if you buy the perpetual license (Office 2019), you only get what's available at that time. You don't get the updated features that are available to the subscription plan. That's fine for some people, but others would prefer to pay a little more over time through subscriptions to always stay up to date and have the latest features be available.
I go between devices all the time! MacOS, IPadOS, windows, android, linux...etc! from a student to my professional life I use this non stop! such a great tool!
that' what I have to do too (mac/ipad/personal, xps/work and iPhone for both) but can't find apps that use both platforms! This video is a lifesaver and so is your comment cos now I know there is progress for us :) I asked on other channels help to use apps for both and no answer. Are there any other apps that you recommend that work for both platforms? Any calendar that synch on both? thank you
Actually there are many apps that do that for free, such as photomath, or Microsoft math. If you want to subscribe to office 360 make sure you don't do it for a reason that has alternatives
I have been using OneNote for years. I couldn’t live without it. Years ago, while in grad school, I would scan copies of my book from my scanner directly into OneNote and use the OCR built in to OneNote to copy everything into a text file. Then when we would have an open book test, we would just search for the terms associated with the test question. Most recently, I started a new job a few years ago and now I use it to take notes, screenshots, save documents/links, etc.
If you install office lens from Microsoft on your phone, after taking picture with the app you can save it automatically to one note to work from laptop/MacBook/iPad with the scanned document. Office lens automatically create a scanned document from the picture.
A surface pro 4 and one note got me through my masters degree. So many hand written notes, annotations, easy to search (even handwritten notes!!). I used to be a very careless student when notes were paper based, in between forgetting notes, not sorting them or just losing notes , things got crazy quick, but with just one note and a laptop everything is sorted and indexed. Its my lifeline in my daily job as a PM too. Would probably get fired if I lost access to it as i'd be a useless project manager! The one note notebook is so big, it takes a while for the app to open now :D
Omg thank youuu! One question, can you do a video about digital pencils? I’m going into college soon and am planning to transition to digital note-taking so I’m looking into digital pencils. Love how the one in the video looks 🙏🏻😍✨
Yes. I also use one note. But I hate the infinite canvasses sometimes. I really wish that microsoft would add a page size option so that when I go to print pdf, my work actually fits. You can get A4 pages off onenote 2016 but this only works for a single page which usually isn't enough space. I guess I could make lots of separate A4 pages, but this makes things messy, having a subsection with pages labelled by their respective number, not to mention having to save them all individually then recombining them into a single PDF.
@@yusraasayed Letting you know that I just found out that there is another Microsoft notetaking app called "Journal", where there is a finite size to pages - but it doesn't seem to be as "smart" with lots of features as OneNote has
I was a happy user of microsoft onenote as a student from 2007 when I invested in a tablet-pc ( fujitsu lifebook t4220 ). It amazes me how little it changed.
Enjoyed the Video as I'm just starting to look at OneNote and OneDrive. I can't find any info on the pen you are using in your post. Would you share what is is and do you know if it will work with the HP Specter 2 in 1
When I joined college for the first time last year, I was using it from day one and it felt soo convenient to have all your notes available on any platform whether i was using my iPad to take notes or it was down to my phone.
I want to stop in here to say that I used this setup in reverse: OneNote on my MacBookPro and a Surface Pro 6, so I mainly took notes on the Surface Pro and accessed them on my Mac laptop via the sync. I want to mention that I had sync problems where notebooks refused to show up on the laptop and Microsoft support on this is super, super rudimentary. Sometimes the answer is "well that happens sometimes, re-create your whole notebook." Like, wait, what? There is no solution to this obscure error message and I need to start over? That's not acceptable. Not for Microsoft, especially. So bear in mind that no solution here is perfect when we're doing cross-platform sync, and Microsoft is *not* (at least, yet) the master of the cloud. Not like Google. You never have such problems with Google products. Unfortunately, Google doesn't have a multipurpose handwriting-enabled note-taking app.
I'm keeping an eye on Google Keep. Google seems to be working on it one feature at a time. You can actually make handwritten notes with a ruled paper in Google Keep but the features are very limited though efficient. You don't have books or tabs but Google is implementing labels feature just like Gmail. You can pin Google Keep web to home and have the web app function visually like a local app. Right now, I use Keep for memos and OneNote for the real deal.
So informative. I'm one of those students using Apple notes who wanted to switch to One Note using the Dell XPS 2-in-1 I've ordered for my birthday. By the way, I like the first and fourth pair of glasses for you. My favorite is still the non-glasses look. But you gotta read right?
OneNote on a 2-in-1 along with OneDrive is great for school. I usually put ruled lines on when I take notes by hand so I'm not all over the place. Using the ruler and shapes help out a lot too when creating visuals. Also, I tend to setup the 2-in-1 in an "A" to avoid having to hold the screen up while I write.
Very much agree with your assessment of OneNote. My history, Years ago I gave OneNote a go, did not like it, so when Evernote started I jumped in; ten years a premium user. Apple greatly improved their Notes app, it is outstanding, so I transferred all my Evernote notes to Apple Notes; OMG such a pain. Yes, I ran Evernote along side of Apple Notes. Evernote's pricing as structured is getting out of hand. Thus over past few months I began in earnest looking at other note apps quickly settling on OneNote. Though we can access our Apple Notes via the Web, is not the same experience as using a cross platform app such as Evernote and OneNote. OneNote, for me, is working out better than Evernote. After importing all my Apple Notes to OneNote I deleted all my Apple Notes from iCloud. Being as there are a gazillion documents on both Evernote and OneNote (same-same) I run them together. At my next Evernote renewal I will drop the premium, will exclusively use OneNote. Very much enjoy the editing capabilities of OneNote, clearly beats Evernote. My use of OneNote is on iPhone and iPad, soon moving to Android. EDIT: Aug 2020 purchased Samsung Note 20, OneNote works amazingly well on Note 20. Very much enjoy your videos; extremely informative and I learn much. Thank you. FYI: Jealous does not mean what most folks think it means. When one says jealous they truly mean envious or envy. Jealous: feeling or showing suspicion of someone's unfaithfulness in a relationship. Such as "a jealous boyfriend". Remember the phrase "the green eyes of jealousy", it is the fear of losing a significant other to someone else. Now for Envy: a feeling of discontented or resentful longing aroused by someone else's possessions, qualities, or luck.
Jealous: "feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages." That's the top definition in the Oxford dictionary. Your definition of jealous is the second definition.
This is a great video Sara. I've found your reviews and opinions insightful. However I was surprised you didn't mention Evernote, and many people in the comments didn't either. I've used Evernote for years on all platforms and it's such a great note taking app. I enjoy how I can update on my iPad and then sync to review my notes on my Samsung Note 9. I was curious why you didn't mention it or maybe I missed you saying something about it in the past.
Hey, One Note it's truly great and have a lot of fancy stuff. But just take this as a little advice. Never take IMPORTANT notes, like your Thesis or another life changing information into any proprietary app. Or if you do, be sure you have a back up that can be open with and open source app. (at least export a copy like .pdf)
@@tortolito56 let's say you do a tesis. But shit happens and you have to stop Uni. A few years later you try to finish your tesis one more time. But now you would find your One Note 2020 it's incompatible with New Note Edge 2022. And you have to search for an old versiòn of One Note just to open your files. And you have to crack it, because One Note doesn't have support or is available to purchase anymore.That's just and example. But shit happens, and important data for you is better is you save it in a Human readable format, and not in a propietary binary.
Sara Rhymes with Peachy FTW! I was wishy-washy about going OneNote to go between iPhone, iPad Pro and my Lenovo Yoga 920 (a 2-in-1 FTW!) and this video has me WAY EXCITED... Learned a ton of little tidbits from you. Thank you for this one Sara!
2 in 1’s are great! I recently had my Thinkpad Yoga taken away because the company wanted the word “workstation” on every laptop. I did get another 32GB of memory and a Xeon processor...but, to be honest, my Thinkpad Yoga (P40?...i forget) i7 with 32GB of memory and a decent graphics card was PLENTY fast! And I really loved note taking on that thing using OneNote. The company got what they wanted I guess... but, “we the worker” spent a lot more time in our cubicles just because of heat generation and weight on the new workstations. GO LIGHT if your buying your own! They are PLENTY fast and a lot more versatile.
Yeah! I was so happy to see that this it was OneNote! When I switched from Mac to PC last year (a Dell XPS of course) I looked for something to replace Apple Notes, and that was really nice on desktop. And my choice fell on OneNote and really came to love it. So fun to see you coming to the same conclusion 🙌
Finally somebody talks about this app. I started using it for worldbuilding and then for college stuff, then for my job, and I'm still using it for those three things. The way things can be organized here is insane. The only thing I don't like about it is the synching, it might as well not have it all. For some reason it doesn't work properly for me, I've tried it several times and it's just a mess when it comes to synching. It's not something that I need, since everything I do with it is at home, but still Maybe it's because I have a lot of stuff in it, but it doesn't even seem to try to sync at all, even though it's active.
I was once an avid OneNote user back in the Windows Phone days. Eventually, I started to use Android phones and got myself an iPad for school and a main machine that stayed at home. At this time OneNote was really convenient for me since I could use my PC at home and sync my notes to the iPad and my phone. I liked that the app was really robust in terms of features (I liked using shapes for my notes. It helped with things like math and stuff). When I got an Apple Pencil things changed. I started to use Notes because it was more practical to have a better integrated app to the system itself, and I also think that OneNote didn't compare much in terms of using the Pencil and handwriting in general. Today I use Bamboo Paper for handwriting and Notes for more complex stuff since it has better features. I don't worry much because now I use an iPhone too, so all my notes are synced on mobile devices and I can still use iCloud on Windows. Although, this video inspired me to give OneNote another try. Maybe I'll comeback to using it after all...
if you're using a surface book or microsoft product I would recommend Opus, I used that for college note taking, really fun. But I think it's windows only :/
Used onenote for 10+ years at work and private. The best about it at work when we share notes between 10-15 people is the very good search in onenote. Since it's so good you don't need care about where you enter the notes when you have 10-15k pages in onenote.
this video is all you need to buy a windows 2 in 1 laptop, i was actually considering getting the ipad9 for digital note-taking but a windows 2 in 1 would really be a bang for a buck and all the one-note features is the main selling feature
"I don't know if this makes maths pointless, or if this makes parents pointless, because you don't need any of them anymore." Love it! Alright, now where's the link to the Dell 2-1 casue I'm about to buy it if it can beat out a MS Surface Pro. Kinda sold on it after this video lol
I've been using Onenote since 2013 because of college and I'm so mad that this new math feature is add after 7 years.... this could've changed my C into a B in math
It's a good app on iOS and Windows however on android it's so bad you can't even chamge to a black background which is laughable, I wish you addressed that issue because I'm vision impaired and really need a black background.
Also bad on a MacBook. No chance to export/print to PDF without destroying the layout. Tried to take meeting notes which needed to be shared with other people in the organization and it was a complete fail. Biggest problem of OneNote is the nonexistence of page settings which leads to cluttered PDF exports (at least on MacOS). I know many people love this "endless canvas" but it makes OneNote useless for professional note taking and sharing with people who are NOT using OneNote - in my eyes at least.
I uses One note since 2011, it is great app with freaking reading mode and ability to highlight grammar elements which is a god sent, but android app really really suck.
Is this from Office 2019? I keep trying to download OneNote but it's either the Windows 10 version or the 2016 version, and I don't know which version you are using. Great Video though, very informative and fun!
I get very frustrated with OneNote because there are so many things that you can't do in formatting that I think is basic. I don't know why they couldn't make the formatting just like in Word. For example you can do bulleted and number lists but you can't do multi-level lists. I find that unbelievable that they didn't add that ability in OneNote since it is a note taking program. As far as I see doing an outline using multi-level lists isn't possible from what I have found.
This is a very useful vídeo! I was looking for an app with ORC that could help me sync my work notes, iPad is too big, I use the s22ultra for notes and I handwrite a lot
Love OneNote! I’ve been using OneNote and Notion together to completely digitize everything across all systems. It’s been AMAZING. I’ve been a surface user for the past 5 years and I’m never going back to a computer/laptop that doesn’t have handwritten or touch screen capabilities
When Microsoft finally decide to listen to the users who were begging since 2016 to bring back the damn A4 page size in One note, THEN AND ONLY THEN I might consider switching.
I'm honestly tempted to do a hybrid note-taking system with Notion and OneNote, because I love writing as if I had a paper notebook on my computer and Notion is absolutely disgusting to use on phone. Basically if I want organized notes on my phone I'll use OneNote, if I want handwritten notes I'll use OneNote and later I'll just pass it to Notion. I've stopped using OneNote for a long time because I've had massive problems with syncing. It just wouldn't sync anymore.
1 HUGE HUGE DOWNSIDE OF ONE NOTE: YOU CAN'T EXPORT NOTES TO PDF OR PRINT THEM IN INDIVIDUAL PAGES CAUSE YOUR PAGE CANVAS ON ONE NOTE IS INFINITE MEANING YOU CAN SCROLL AND WRITE ON THAT ONE PAGE FOREVER BUT IF YOU DECIDED TO CONVERT IT TO PDF OR PRINT IT TO SUBMIT YOUR HOMEWORK/TEST IT COMES OUT CROPPED UP INTO DIFFERENT RANDOM SECTIONS :/
I actually switched from using OneNote on a Surface Book to using Notability on an iPad. It’s not as full-featured as OneNote, but Apple’s algorithm for digitizing handwriting is just so much faster. Also an iPad Pro is much lighter than a laptop. I would use OneNote on the iPad, since I really like the interoperability of Office 365 and OneDrive, but Microsoft has chosen to not support simultaneous handwriting and audio recording in OneNote on the iPad. That’s a dealbreaker for me. When I’m taking notes during a class or seminar, I want audio synced to my handwriting. If MS allows that on the iPad, I’ll switch back to OneNote.
I'm using OneNote literally for years. Its my 1 of 3 top apps on daily basis, besides Outlook and a Browser. OneNote browser extension is one of greatest lifesaver tool. It's miles ahead in features than any other note taking app out there.
I usually watch your videos just to see your bright face saying "Sara Dietschy, rhymes with peachy" 😍 but then, your videos interest me in to stuff i either have barely used or plan to buy, and it makes me confident in using or buying those things. like even though i use OneNote a lot these days, I didn't know abt the clipping browser extension, and now it looks handy... ( I prev. used to copy-paste hyperlinks, which would copy with text, the link, and citation) Thank you so much. --------------- After ignoring OneNote for years, I started using it last year for some basic reminders and lists, and simple notetaking if ever needed... I used it mainly cause it is truly cross platform ( Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android ) and has dark mode on all platforms. (unlike Evernote on windows, which I actually wanted to use) Little did I know, it would replace almost all my office apps on every platform and would be my daily use app. I now use it for notetaking, lists, reminders, Audio clips ( for song ideas ), web clipping (thanks to your video), share text within different devices I got, and send these texts to other people who also use OneNote.
I might suggest yiu consider those of us who are just becoming familar with note type programs and slow down your speech and presentation, I can see where you get excited over various features but for those of us who are either new to note taking or in my case advanced in age (84) and did not grow up with computers, it takes a bit longer for us to assimilate the information. It is obvious you know your subject matter, the key is to beable to present it in a manner where we can comprehend your information.. Keep up the great programming. Phil Owens SFC Ret
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Notability is great in apple land but the entire point was something that worked on both sides but mainly for my 2in1. I tried OneNote years ago and it was terrible -- it's gotten so much better!!!😅
Make a video on new Edge Browser also..❤❤
How does the XPS 13 handle battery life when doing things like one note?
Go the gray frames 👍
You can’t search system through
You can only do this in apple notes, search handwritten notes
One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of universities have a deal with Microsoft giving students free access to office 365 so price might not be an issue for a lot of students.
Victor duarte Microsoft forced me to buy office 365 even though Im student and my uni students got it for free , they didn’t help
agree, most university had deal with office 365, i get it from my university for free and all microsoft office desktop app for 5 device, and the 1TB onedrive. thats why for productivity i stick on the office 365.
I agree. I got Office 365 from my college during my time there and they thought they only subscribed to that for the e-mail services! However, the trick is to sign in with the account provided by the college or university, rather than a personal Microsoft account.
Yneed a heart here
Do people actually buy microsoft office?!😂
i came for onenote and i left wanting a dell xps 13 2 in 1
Sameee
SAMEEEEEE
Same here mate 😂
I came for Onenote and I left wanting Sara Dietschy 😐
Which one is better to buy
Apple ipad pro or dell 2in1 ?
I am confused . Plz help.
Best OneNote feature is audio sync. Record a lecture or meeting while taking notes. Later, click on a area of your notes and the audio will play. Or, play the audio and it will scroll through your notes.
Sounds great. On which platform are you doing that? Does it work with both handwritten and typed notes? Thanks in advance for the info
Wow so getting it
They copied that from Notability!
Bruv, I didn't know this. Thanks
@@youxxxxx Maybe if you missed something and when you are talking notes to study, it is very useful!
OneNote is a powerhouse! Been using it for years to run a theater and a ton of music festivals. That note taking app has been the backbone to almost 10k shows in my career. And, platform agnostic!! As a technical director, I can tell you the most important software you will ever use in the music industry isn't ProTools or QLab, but MS Office (which makes OneNote even more powerful with outlook integration)
When you forget the laptop can open farther than you think and have a mini heart attack😂
Happened with me
😂😂😂😂
what laptop is she using?
I like that you are not the usual american youtuber that knows only about apple products ... I have been using onenote for more than 5 years ..designing icons/logos/interfaces for my mobile app on my note phone (during brakes at work , on my commute ,etc) , refining them on my ipad / win 2in1 , using them while programming the app on my windows workstation . working now on a game using the same workflow . the multi platform thing is amazing. hopefully it will stay free .
The only bad thing in one note it’s that you can’t set a paper size like an A4 for example, you are stuck with the almost infinte white background, and this is a problem if you wanna print your notes.
Also ink/pen style (?) is mediocre at best. It's super artificial and doesn't mimic real ink at all so someone who want to do fully handwritten notes can be put off by it. If you could use some tool to crop or outline print sections in this infinite whiteboard to make it more print friendly and customize ink/pen style OneNote would be #1 note taking app for many many people.
@Andi LP thanks! I wish they offered this in the non dextop version too
I've printed notes from One Note before, with the grid background on an A3 sheet (it was meant to be an A3 poster), I think it depends on the Printer settings from the Laptop
@@alus992 I really think it is interesting how people prefer different styles.
I hate it when apps think I want to mimic paper. Why would I want to do that?
I have escaped the paper and trencendet into the digital space XD
I don't want my notes to look like paper, they should look like digital notes
If you use share option to share your textbook and you'll create a link to it and then you'll open the link in web browser and use print option, your textbook will be rescaled to A4 and you can save it as PDF.
This seems like a much needed solution for people that have multiple iOS devices, android devices, windows devices and Mac OS devices.
I totally agree with you. I switched off Noteability about 4 Months ago. I use both Windows, Mac and an iPad 11 Pro and am totally impressed with Microsoft's integrated Office 365 products. You certainly have a right to be excited. There is nothing better in my opinion.
Imagine traveling to the past and bending the screen like that. 😂
Kiddox or just traveling to the past and having that screen at all.
What laptop is that?
@@rishyrishmeow i am not entirely sure, but looks like a xps 13 dell to me
I went full digital 3 years ago with one note, and as a university student I can confirm the usability. I take every notes on my x360 hp envy and I can modify them anytime on my smartphone...
That's awesome! Ive been thinking about getting an envy x360 as well for school, but i was not sure if the battery life would last and if the fan noise is really disruptive, especially in class. Have u found the device to be good?
@@estelle567 I would totally recommend it. The battery life is not amazing, but it does last enough. The fan noise can be controlled in hp command center
@@estelle567 I had one and mine was shit. I had a key fall off in the first month and had to get it replaced and then my screen corner popped off and I bought it to the shop to get it fixed and they had to replace it again. They no longer make them anymore so they ended up just giving me a store credit. Bear in mind this happened in the span of 6 months.
This machine can solve for X. I don't need parents anymore!
Lol
How, I NEED TO KNOW NOW
@@jt-cf8kr 6:42
That math solver!
Sarah saw her trust fund being cut off after that comment 😂😂😂
I am a Chinese junior high student RUclipsr and I am currently using OneNote to take notes while I am studying. However, I didn't know there were some useful features in it.
This video helps me a lot to learn some useful features in OneNote. Thanks for sharing very much!
TIP: If you want to avoid the horror of text boxes overlapping, create just one text box. When you want to add content, go to the last line and use cursor to move down. That way you can stay in the same text box.
One Note has an infinite canvas and if you ever hope to export your notes to PDF, you have to be careful how wide you make your notes.
I use One Note on my Mac all the time and it gets really annoying because double click&drag doesn't select by word as it does in most word processing apps. I have sent several messages to Microsoft One Note feedback, but still nothing.
I also miss links from One Note to other apps. One Note creates really cumbersome links that point to One Drive and there are very few apps that are able to open One Note and show the note when clicking a link created in One Note. Most just open a browser. And web version of One Note is not very useful...
Other than that, using One Note on Mac, iPad and iPhone is quite fun. I still have a long way to go with 5GB free One Drive storage I got when creating a new outlook.com login for starting One Note.
I used to take notes on it, but it started eating tons and tons of cache (literally 90 GB) when I was on 3h lectures/classes, my notes were as simple as plain text and some few images, but I don't know why the app was climbing my storage so hard, I'm now taking notes with Notion and it's literally incredible and minimalist, ly sara 💖
@FlyingMonkies325 oh tbh i kinda hate google docs 😩 it lags so much on my computer and takes an eternity to load, sometimes it disconnects and i can’t watch offline pages
I liked evernote but notion is free with my student e-mail lol and I also love all the templates and aesthetics of the overall notion app, keeps me organized too.
What happened to buying a program once, and it's yours forever. Tired of paying for things, and never owning it
I absolutely agree, I like the design and usability of both Onenote and Notion, but in both cases, you don't own the software your using. Not to mention that if you look at the privacy policy for any of these major companies, all you your notes can be read by anyone at the company who feels like it, without your consent. At the risk of sounding like an ad, I'm going to stick with Joplin for a while, it's getting features faster than major notetaking apps/programs, while giving me control over my notes, where they are stored, and who has access to them. #opensource
Everything is becoming a "Service". Oxygen will one day be a service...
Remember, water is a service.
I will go for something opensource with markdown or latex for notes. So you can be sure in 5 years you can still open it and will work.
Disagree actually, quite like this concept away from "Get off my property!". If you buy an SSD hard drive now, in 5 years it'll be too small and may no longer live. Same with operating systems and apps, all once bought and outdated. The only thing against it is that you create should remain yours: stopping an Office 365 subscription should not mean you lose access to all notes that are then deleted.
OneNote is free and comes installed automatically on Windows 10, or you can download it for free from the Windows Store. Additionally, you can still buy Office 2019 and this includes the desktop application version of OneNote (vs the Windows 10 app). The Office 2019 perpetual license (meaning your license doesn't expire) unlocks local notebook support so you don't have to save OneNote notebooks in the cloud. This means that there is a way to avoid paying a subscription, and you don't have to use the cloud if you don't want to, but you do lose a lot of the features that would come with a Microsoft 365 subscription. Additionally, if you buy the perpetual license (Office 2019), you only get what's available at that time. You don't get the updated features that are available to the subscription plan. That's fine for some people, but others would prefer to pay a little more over time through subscriptions to always stay up to date and have the latest features be available.
I go between devices all the time! MacOS, IPadOS, windows, android, linux...etc! from a student to my professional life I use this non stop! such a great tool!
that' what I have to do too (mac/ipad/personal, xps/work and iPhone for both) but can't find apps that use both platforms! This video is a lifesaver and so is your comment cos now I know there is progress for us :) I asked on other channels help to use apps for both and no answer. Are there any other apps that you recommend that work for both platforms? Any calendar that synch on both? thank you
That math option is actually life changing
It's really not, it kind of sucks. It's much easier to learn how to type math equations into word or latex.
yea considering I forgot how to do math, its better than trying to read a text book to refresh my memory
Actually there are many apps that do that for free, such as photomath, or Microsoft math. If you want to subscribe to office 360 make sure you don't do it for a reason that has alternatives
I have been using OneNote for years. I couldn’t live without it. Years ago, while in grad school, I would scan copies of my book from my scanner directly into OneNote and use the OCR built in to OneNote to copy everything into a text file. Then when we would have an open book test, we would just search for the terms associated with the test question.
Most recently, I started a new job a few years ago and now I use it to take notes, screenshots, save documents/links, etc.
Im a student in college and ive been using one note since high school and it has been everything for me🙏
If you install office lens from Microsoft on your phone, after taking picture with the app you can save it automatically to one note to work from laptop/MacBook/iPad with the scanned document. Office lens automatically create a scanned document from the picture.
Yeah..Office Lens was my life saving tool in my college days. And still in many cases like saving any important cash memo.
“anyone remember algebra”
me: *a math student* 👁👄👁
Me : * an Asian * 🤯
@@saurabhpal1230 lol.
@McBossBrine but Indians are in Asia, man...
@McBossBrine how do you know he is Indian?
me an engineer /:
I freaked out when you did the math on one note!!!! I DID NOT KNOW THAT EXISTED!!! THANK YOU OH THANK YOU!!!! GREAT VIDEO!!!!
Honestly Sara rocks all them glasses
A surface pro 4 and one note got me through my masters degree. So many hand written notes, annotations, easy to search (even handwritten notes!!). I used to be a very careless student when notes were paper based, in between forgetting notes, not sorting them or just losing notes , things got crazy quick, but with just one note and a laptop everything is sorted and indexed.
Its my lifeline in my daily job as a PM too. Would probably get fired if I lost access to it as i'd be a useless project manager! The one note notebook is so big, it takes a while for the app to open now :D
This is a video I really needed, thank you so much for uploading!! I’ve been looking for a good note-taking app for some time
Honestly I love Windows ecosystem. They just need to resolve UI consistency and declutter their menu.
What window device is she using here?
Omg thank youuu! One question, can you do a video about digital pencils? I’m going into college soon and am planning to transition to digital note-taking so I’m looking into digital pencils. Love how the one in the video looks 🙏🏻😍✨
girl i had no idea about the researcher function, THANK YOU!!
Yes. I also use one note. But I hate the infinite canvasses sometimes. I really wish that microsoft would add a page size option so that when I go to print pdf, my work actually fits. You can get A4 pages off onenote 2016 but this only works for a single page which usually isn't enough space. I guess I could make lots of separate A4 pages, but this makes things messy, having a subsection with pages labelled by their respective number, not to mention having to save them all individually then recombining them into a single PDF.
I have the same issue, otherwise one note is perfect
@@yusraasayed Letting you know that I just found out that there is another Microsoft notetaking app called "Journal", where there is a finite size to pages - but it doesn't seem to be as "smart" with lots of features as OneNote has
I was a happy user of microsoft onenote as a student from 2007 when I invested in a tablet-pc ( fujitsu lifebook t4220 ). It amazes me how little it changed.
Great for Android, Chromebooks as well, can't forget that point.
Yep, I have a tab S6 and one note is great. They have a proper tablet app.
@@JustinSCampbell no they don´t. its a fucking cheap version of onennote and it sucks on the tab s6. Can´t even draw straight lines with it.
Best video, you're really smart Sara, I wish everyone concentrated at school like you! you still remember your math and types of chemical bonds.
Enjoyed the Video as I'm just starting to look at OneNote and OneDrive. I can't find any info on the pen you are using in your post. Would you share what is is and do you know if it will work with the HP Specter 2 in 1
Hi you can also set the page format to an specific size
Who came here to see onenote. But fell love with her and her dellXPS 13
Need to know the model..thanks :D and yeah, you are right :3
@@saffattahmid9454 Dell XPS 13 2 in 1
Me
Great vid - couldn’t agree more about the value of OneNote working so well across Apple and Microsoft devices.
Love the way she makes tech look so easy.
I'm lost AF.
When I joined college for the first time last year, I was using it from day one and it felt soo convenient to have all your notes available on any platform whether i was using my iPad to take notes or it was down to my phone.
I want to stop in here to say that I used this setup in reverse: OneNote on my MacBookPro and a Surface Pro 6, so I mainly took notes on the Surface Pro and accessed them on my Mac laptop via the sync. I want to mention that I had sync problems where notebooks refused to show up on the laptop and Microsoft support on this is super, super rudimentary. Sometimes the answer is "well that happens sometimes, re-create your whole notebook." Like, wait, what? There is no solution to this obscure error message and I need to start over? That's not acceptable. Not for Microsoft, especially.
So bear in mind that no solution here is perfect when we're doing cross-platform sync, and Microsoft is *not* (at least, yet) the master of the cloud. Not like Google. You never have such problems with Google products. Unfortunately, Google doesn't have a multipurpose handwriting-enabled note-taking app.
I found that if you go and access the newly created notebook in the browser (OneNote web app) then it will show up on the actual windows app too.
don’t know if you used onenote long ago because I study with the same setup you use and sync is seamless, never got a problem
I'm keeping an eye on Google Keep. Google seems to be working on it one feature at a time. You can actually make handwritten notes with a ruled paper in Google Keep but the features are very limited though efficient.
You don't have books or tabs but Google is implementing labels feature just like Gmail. You can pin Google Keep web to home and have the web app function visually like a local app.
Right now, I use Keep for memos and OneNote for the real deal.
So informative. I'm one of those students using Apple notes who wanted to switch to One Note using the Dell XPS 2-in-1 I've ordered for my birthday. By the way, I like the first and fourth pair of glasses for you. My favorite is still the non-glasses look. But you gotta read right?
OneNote on a 2-in-1 along with OneDrive is great for school. I usually put ruled lines on when I take notes by hand so I'm not all over the place. Using the ruler and shapes help out a lot too when creating visuals. Also, I tend to setup the 2-in-1 in an "A" to avoid having to hold the screen up while I write.
Love this app used it for the first five minutes and wow amazing
Very much agree with your assessment of OneNote. My history, Years ago I gave OneNote a go, did not like it, so when Evernote started I jumped in; ten years a premium user. Apple greatly improved their Notes app, it is outstanding, so I transferred all my Evernote notes to Apple Notes; OMG such a pain. Yes, I ran Evernote along side of Apple Notes.
Evernote's pricing as structured is getting out of hand. Thus over past few months I began in earnest looking at other note apps quickly settling on OneNote. Though we can access our Apple Notes via the Web, is not the same experience as using a cross platform app such as Evernote and OneNote.
OneNote, for me, is working out better than Evernote. After importing all my Apple Notes to OneNote I deleted all my Apple Notes from iCloud. Being as there are a gazillion documents on both Evernote and OneNote (same-same) I run them together. At my next Evernote renewal I will drop the premium, will exclusively use OneNote. Very much enjoy the editing capabilities of OneNote, clearly beats Evernote. My use of OneNote is on iPhone and iPad, soon moving to Android. EDIT: Aug 2020 purchased Samsung Note 20, OneNote works amazingly well on Note 20.
Very much enjoy your videos; extremely informative and I learn much. Thank you.
FYI: Jealous does not mean what most folks think it means. When one says jealous they truly mean envious or envy. Jealous: feeling or showing suspicion of someone's unfaithfulness in a relationship. Such as "a jealous boyfriend". Remember the phrase "the green eyes of jealousy", it is the fear of losing a significant other to someone else. Now for Envy: a feeling of discontented or resentful longing aroused by someone else's possessions, qualities, or luck.
Jealous: "feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages." That's the top definition in the Oxford dictionary. Your definition of jealous is the second definition.
I was thinking to buy one XPS13 for running MATLAB and note-taking ... And you proved it ... Thankyou.
This is a great video Sara. I've found your reviews and opinions insightful. However I was surprised you didn't mention Evernote, and many people in the comments didn't either. I've used Evernote for years on all platforms and it's such a great note taking app. I enjoy how I can update on my iPad and then sync to review my notes on my Samsung Note 9. I was curious why you didn't mention it or maybe I missed you saying something about it in the past.
Your set design is better than all other reviewers. Love the red color scheme! 😊🙌🔥
15:14 Let me get this strait, the narration tool helps people who can't hear, yea ok lol
Lololol
I've been using one note since it came out. Best note taking app for sure.
Hey, One Note it's truly great and have a lot of fancy stuff. But just take this as a little advice. Never take IMPORTANT notes, like your Thesis or another life changing information into any proprietary app. Or if you do, be sure you have a back up that can be open with and open source app. (at least export a copy like .pdf)
Why tho?
@@tortolito56 let's say you do a tesis. But shit happens and you have to stop Uni.
A few years later you try to finish your tesis one more time. But now you would find your One Note 2020 it's incompatible with New Note Edge 2022. And you have to search for an old versiòn of One Note just to open your files. And you have to crack it, because One Note doesn't have support or is available to purchase anymore.That's just and example. But shit happens, and important data for you is better is you save it in a Human readable format, and not in a propietary binary.
@@negritolindo8838 wait, did this happen to you?
Sara Rhymes with Peachy FTW! I was wishy-washy about going OneNote to go between iPhone, iPad Pro and my Lenovo Yoga 920 (a 2-in-1 FTW!) and this video has me WAY EXCITED... Learned a ton of little tidbits from you. Thank you for this one Sara!
2 in 1’s are great! I recently had my Thinkpad Yoga taken away because the company wanted the word “workstation” on every laptop. I did get another 32GB of memory and a Xeon processor...but, to be honest, my Thinkpad Yoga (P40?...i forget) i7 with 32GB of memory and a decent graphics card was PLENTY fast! And I really loved note taking on that thing using OneNote. The company got what they wanted I guess... but, “we the worker” spent a lot more time in our cubicles just because of heat generation and weight on the new workstations. GO LIGHT if your buying your own! They are PLENTY fast and a lot more versatile.
Great vid! I prefer Notion, I feel that I can create a nice work flow for each project.
Yeah! I was so happy to see that this it was OneNote! When I switched from Mac to PC last year (a Dell XPS of course) I looked for something to replace Apple Notes, and that was really nice on desktop. And my choice fell on OneNote and really came to love it. So fun to see you coming to the same conclusion 🙌
great video. im 39 and going back to school so this helps as im preparing fir September. Love your creativity.
Me: Wants to see advantages of OneNote
Sara: You no longer need parents.....
Finally somebody talks about this app.
I started using it for worldbuilding and then for college stuff, then for my job, and I'm still using it for those three things. The way things can be organized here is insane.
The only thing I don't like about it is the synching, it might as well not have it all. For some reason it doesn't work properly for me, I've tried it several times and it's just a mess when it comes to synching. It's not something that I need, since everything I do with it is at home, but still
Maybe it's because I have a lot of stuff in it, but it doesn't even seem to try to sync at all, even though it's active.
I was once an avid OneNote user back in the Windows Phone days. Eventually, I started to use Android phones and got myself an iPad for school and a main machine that stayed at home. At this time OneNote was really convenient for me since I could use my PC at home and sync my notes to the iPad and my phone. I liked that the app was really robust in terms of features (I liked using shapes for my notes. It helped with things like math and stuff). When I got an Apple Pencil things changed. I started to use Notes because it was more practical to have a better integrated app to the system itself, and I also think that OneNote didn't compare much in terms of using the Pencil and handwriting in general. Today I use Bamboo Paper for handwriting and Notes for more complex stuff since it has better features. I don't worry much because now I use an iPhone too, so all my notes are synced on mobile devices and I can still use iCloud on Windows.
Although, this video inspired me to give OneNote another try. Maybe I'll comeback to using it after all...
One Note is truly amazing, I second this
9:58
That lizzza's "a dollar" was so perfect
I use notability. Best app for iPad note taking. Good notes is good as well
thanks I just started using the free version and it's exactly what I've been looking for for years and happy gonna get marriage thing
if you're using a surface book or microsoft product I would recommend Opus, I used that for college note taking, really fun. But I think it's windows only :/
12:49 "One click. That's all it takes. Falling in love with me. I look like all you need."
Used onenote for 10+ years at work and private. The best about it at work when we share notes between 10-15 people is the very good search in onenote. Since it's so good you don't need care about where you enter the notes when you have 10-15k pages in onenote.
This is so what I needed!! Thank you tons! Is the pen you are using with the Dell something that would work with Microsoft Surface Pro 4?
this video is all you need to buy a windows 2 in 1 laptop, i was actually considering getting the ipad9 for digital note-taking but a windows 2 in 1 would really be a bang for a buck and all the one-note features is the main selling feature
You can also drag Powerpoints in there and you can scroll through slides to write notes :)
You've won not only my subscription but also my heart. Love your way of explaining things.
"I don't know if this makes maths pointless, or if this makes parents pointless, because you don't need any of them anymore." Love it!
Alright, now where's the link to the Dell 2-1 casue I'm about to buy it if it can beat out a MS Surface Pro. Kinda sold on it after this video lol
Thanks for the - using One note as Airdrop tip to transfer info and pixs between Windows and mac/ iPad. It's a wonderful tip!
I've been using Onenote since 2013 because of college and I'm so mad that this new math feature is add after 7 years.... this could've changed my C into a B in math
If One Note solved what you were supposed to do, your C would've changed into a D🙃
The math option can't really handle college level math so don't be too mad
@@turboduck2902 depends on what degree you study for
@@mralex314st4 mm no, you can't.
Hey Sara,
what pen are you using in this Video.
Looking for a new one and yours seems perfect working.
It's a good app on iOS and Windows however on android it's so bad you can't even chamge to a black background which is laughable, I wish you addressed that issue because I'm vision impaired and really need a black background.
Also bad on a MacBook. No chance to export/print to PDF without destroying the layout. Tried to take meeting notes which needed to be shared with other people in the organization and it was a complete fail. Biggest problem of OneNote is the nonexistence of page settings which leads to cluttered PDF exports (at least on MacOS). I know many people love this "endless canvas" but it makes OneNote useless for professional note taking and sharing with people who are NOT using OneNote - in my eyes at least.
I have always used Evernote and found it great for simple note taking.
I got the same Dell XPS! Love my laptop, I’ll have to get this app!
What's the exact unit? How long the battery life is?
The glasses ad kills it why am I paying RUclips for ad free videos
I uses One note since 2011, it is great app with freaking reading mode and ability to highlight grammar elements which is a god sent, but android app really really suck.
Is this from Office 2019? I keep trying to download OneNote but it's either the Windows 10 version or the 2016 version, and I don't know which version you are using. Great Video though, very informative and fun!
I get very frustrated with OneNote because there are so many things that you can't do in formatting that I think is basic. I don't know why they couldn't make the formatting just like in Word. For example you can do bulleted and number lists but you can't do multi-level lists. I find that unbelievable that they didn't add that ability in OneNote since it is a note taking program. As far as I see doing an outline using multi-level lists isn't possible from what I have found.
Maybe you get that when you pay for Office 365. I don't know.
This is a very useful vídeo! I was looking for an app with ORC that could help me sync my work notes, iPad is too big, I use the s22ultra for notes and I handwrite a lot
Dude, Microsoft should sponsor you, I paid for microsoft 365 after watching your video. And i´m going for a 2 and 1 pc. Tks.
Love OneNote! I’ve been using OneNote and Notion together to completely digitize everything across all systems. It’s been AMAZING. I’ve been a surface user for the past 5 years and I’m never going back to a computer/laptop that doesn’t have handwritten or touch screen capabilities
When Microsoft finally decide to listen to the users who were begging since 2016 to bring back the damn A4 page size in One note, THEN AND ONLY THEN I might consider switching.
They already did that a year ago though
@@abhigyandatta13 its not available on the windows 10 version
I'm honestly tempted to do a hybrid note-taking system with Notion and OneNote, because I love writing as if I had a paper notebook on my computer and Notion is absolutely disgusting to use on phone.
Basically if I want organized notes on my phone I'll use OneNote, if I want handwritten notes I'll use OneNote and later I'll just pass it to Notion.
I've stopped using OneNote for a long time because I've had massive problems with syncing. It just wouldn't sync anymore.
Quarantine be like: I've watched every single video of Sara from the past month.. even the ones that I was not interested
Just found your channel while researching note apps. I've been a longtime Evernote user and tried several others. Thanks for the video!
I will add that my ADHD means my notes are a chaotic mess, so a note taking app that can be organized and searched is a MUST
1 HUGE HUGE DOWNSIDE OF ONE NOTE: YOU CAN'T EXPORT NOTES TO PDF OR PRINT THEM IN INDIVIDUAL PAGES CAUSE YOUR PAGE CANVAS ON ONE NOTE IS INFINITE MEANING YOU CAN SCROLL AND WRITE ON THAT ONE PAGE FOREVER BUT IF YOU DECIDED TO CONVERT IT TO PDF OR PRINT IT TO SUBMIT YOUR HOMEWORK/TEST IT COMES OUT CROPPED UP INTO DIFFERENT RANDOM SECTIONS :/
Been a OneNote user since January 2007 ... it IS the BEST note app ever. Welcome to the club!
Honestly such a life saver! I never knew what to use OneNote for but you’ve helped so much, especially while I continue my degree ☺️
I actually switched from using OneNote on a Surface Book to using Notability on an iPad. It’s not as full-featured as OneNote, but Apple’s algorithm for digitizing handwriting is just so much faster. Also an iPad Pro is much lighter than a laptop.
I would use OneNote on the iPad, since I really like the interoperability of Office 365 and OneDrive, but Microsoft has chosen to not support simultaneous handwriting and audio recording in OneNote on the iPad.
That’s a dealbreaker for me. When I’m taking notes during a class or seminar, I want audio synced to my handwriting. If MS allows that on the iPad, I’ll switch back to OneNote.
I'm using OneNote literally for years. Its my 1 of 3 top apps on daily basis, besides Outlook and a Browser. OneNote browser extension is one of greatest lifesaver tool.
It's miles ahead in features than any other note taking app out there.
I usually watch your videos just to see your bright face saying "Sara Dietschy, rhymes with peachy" 😍
but then, your videos interest me in to stuff i either have barely used or plan to buy, and it makes me confident in using or buying those things.
like even though i use OneNote a lot these days, I didn't know abt the clipping browser extension, and now it looks handy... ( I prev. used to copy-paste hyperlinks, which would copy with text, the link, and citation)
Thank you so much.
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After ignoring OneNote for years, I started using it last year for some basic reminders and lists, and simple notetaking if ever needed...
I used it mainly cause it is truly cross platform ( Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android ) and has dark mode on all platforms. (unlike Evernote on windows, which I actually wanted to use)
Little did I know, it would replace almost all my office apps on every platform and would be my daily use app.
I now use it for notetaking, lists, reminders, Audio clips ( for song ideas ), web clipping (thanks to your video), share text within different devices I got, and send these texts to other people who also use OneNote.
I don't need ANY of these things but goddamn she's so excited and charismatic I just spent 20 minutes watching this regardless
About to get myself the XPS 13 for school. this video has be excited to start school and start taking notes
Been using one note for years and all my friends just try to get me to use good note 5 lol
Beside your knowledge and amazing information delivering to the viewer, whatching you makes life more viable and beautiful. Keep it up!❤
The first pair of glasses, the match your hair!
I might suggest yiu consider those of us who are just becoming familar with note type programs and slow down your speech and presentation, I can see where you get excited over various features but for those of us who are either new to note taking or in my case advanced in age (84) and did not grow up with computers, it takes a bit longer for us to assimilate the information. It is obvious you know your subject matter, the key is to beable to present it in a manner where we can comprehend your information.. Keep up the great programming.
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