I do like the new system but I do feel the cost of going to events is a disadvantage, I think if they changed the BFL on regionals and internationals to be separate and limit the BFL even more, it would make the system be more about placement rather than being able to go to more events, personally i think one IC and 3 regionals should be the BFL's.
@@Vitoniteas much as I'd love to agree, I'd start to have an identity crisis here in Malaysia as it's always been Top 4 ranked go to worlds and never having point thresholds. Would love to try this once
Gabe could have also received a ban for something like "unsportsmanlike conduct" with his statement afterwards where he was saying this was a ploy to stop him from winning or whatever. Hopefully we find out.
@@crawej21this makes no sense. You are not allowed to be upset for being unfairly judged?! not sure I agree with that being a good reason to BAN someone.
I think this is the most likely case too pokemon is super picky and strict with conduct getting very upset in the moment at a loss can technically get you warned letting the wrong words slip out with frustration can get you DQ'ed
@@Zutang777tournament ultimately is a marketing tool for TPCI. Any public words that will potentially hurt its image and brand will definitely get punished. So I think it makes sense
I would say you still are competing against those players that go to all 3 IC’s. Yes there are still spots available, but still those players and taking up around 60 or so of the spots. Now there is about half the spots available to everyone else just because they can’t afford to travel to all 3 IC’s. Imo, that’s really unfair to those who want to chase an invite, but don’t have the time or money to travel to all the IC’s. Also this Top X invite system just feels toxic to me. You can’t cheer on your peers and friends in events because their success means you are pushed down in the rankings. That to me feels like the end of next season is going to look pretty ugly fighting for those final spots. Those main reasons are why I think the new invite structure is a terrible idea. It’s fine if they want to make Worlds harder. Imo, I think Worlds should have stayed at 600 points or maybe even gotten a bit easier, but regardless of my views, if TPCI wants to make Worlds harder they should have done what Azul said: Make the point threshold higher.
Could an argument with the Top X getting invites be made for an increase in events and locations? Like the closest regional to our group is like 4+ hours away then after that it's flights away. If they had regionals that were in many of the major cities, more opportunities to compete would be available.
Of the 13 major tournaments (regional/IC) in the NA circuit for this season, 5 were over the 2049 player count: NAIC, Los Angeles, Indianapolis, Orlando, and Charlotte. Only 1 West Coast tournament was above the 2049 player count. I expect the majority of them to still be under 2k. Sacramento, Portland, and Vancouver were all under 1500 masters (with Vancouver being under 1k) for TCG. The changes will definitely have an impact on player count, and I don't see them increasing for these tournaments; rather, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw these drop in the number of competitors year-over-year once they happen for the 2024-25 circuit. Who knows, though.
This is just speculation on my part but I feel Gabe's ban has more to do with his comments made after his DQ and I believe the specific odd length of 3 months is specifically due to him being a Senior and they tend to give lesser sentences on younger players. Also I don't know his age, but is he aging up next year? That would put him in a different age division?
Giving top 8 for regionals an auto invite would massively expand the number of invites. Like 1/3 of all invites would be from those auto invites, which feels like a bit much to me.
If he deleted his tweet I wonder if it's possible the ban had something to do with what he said, rather than the infraction. I do agree it's possible there's more evidence that he did cheat, but deleting the tweet could have had something to do with it.
What bothers me is that being good at Pokemon isn't good enough anymore because you also need thousands of dollars, or a sponsorship, to get to enough events to make worlds. There are plenty of players who can afford to go to half of the regional events that simply wont make worlds because of money. Pokemon doesn't pay enough to make that worthwhile (for a vast majority). I don't see this decision (along with the locals BFL lowering) playing well for the game long-term.
My response to this argument: when was this not the case? To get to Worlds, you’ve ALWAYS had to attend multiple Regionals or ICs in the modern era. I think that’s a reasonable expectation for invitation to a World Championship.
As others have said, this simply just isn't true. Being good enough is, quite frankly, enough. Win a regional or top 4 an IC and you are a world's competitor. Of course, I would prefer if every single person that wanted to attend every single event could do so, but that isn't true for anything in life. Little Timmy is better than Little Jimmy at throwing a football because Timmy's dad could hire someone to give his son 1 on 1 coaching, and Little Jimmy's parents couldn't afford to do anything but recreational football. Some people can go on vacation multiple times a year while others are lucky to go on one vacation in their lifetime. This isn't a TPCI problem, it is just life.
Gabe's defense of saying he didn't cheat because he was accused of stacking a useless card on top of his deck is a little disingenuous. Putting a useless card on top of your deck knowing your opponent is going to cut is absolutely still cheating. That said, that in itself isn't enough to warrant a ban. There's absolutely more to the story here. It also absolutely puts into questions any and all of his accomplishments. If he's willing to try something subtle like this when he knows he's being watched, who's to say he wouldn't try something more blatant when he knows he can get away with it.
Lately I've been seeing a lot of tweets that starts along the lines of: “after sleeping on it” or “after some more thought” and tell you that the new invite structure is great, a step in the right direction 😬 look at who they are carefully, who they work for, how much association they have with tpci, do they have the most to gain or loose from the new structure and don’t let them start swaying your opinion simply because of their prominence in the community. Over the years I’m beginning to notice there are some players who are essentially mouth pieces of tpci and always try to put a positive spin on what the tpci changes are.
I'm just going ro treat this as a juror. If the defense has an irrefuted statement by the prosecution we let the defendant go. TPCi doesn't want to say anything then I go with the kid.
I don't even think Gabe got banned for cheating. I think he got banned for speaking out and being vocal. Pokemon doesn't like their more profile players going against them
Winners should not be able to play in tournaments after a win…. “There is going to be a mindset change in the community” then winners get to win just give opportunity for new winners. From a viewers perspective you want the thought that that can be you up there and thats why we watch going to be very stale with the same people on screen … this sucks
im in seniors and going to worlds this year and dont know how i feel about this ban because gabriel hasnt clearly done that much and worlds is the key point of the year and he has the chance to defend his title and dont forget hes only very young
Did Caleb Gedemer get disqualified at NAIC and subsequently banned? I apologize if this is incorrect information, however, it would be pretty egregious to discuss two other dqs at NAIC, but leave that info out.
When I used to play you could grind for a guaranteed invite, or you just do the Worlds LCQ. If you were good and could dodge some of the other sharks in the pond for a given year then you had a reasonable chance win 9-10 rounds in an LCQ to play in worlds. There was no way I was going to play a whole pokemon season and put in that much effort to qualify, but the LCQ was doable.
it is a legal thing with minors a company can't really post about them and I know news papers and tv need a parents permission to post anything about a child so its likely they cant or wont get permission from his parents. I feel like something weird is going on I agree with the person about sportsman like conduct because pokemon seems to be very picky about this stuff with the rules. Maybe the take down was to try and prevent a ban.
I think it will be more interesting and entertaining to see those players close to the world’s bubble play. Also I think TPCI should keep the prizing at top 32, some of the community I think feels entitled to get something because they travel to events and spend money. Enjoy the fact that you can go to the events and do the best you can and aim for the winning the event.
Disagree about the Noah cheating situation. At face value it looks like he cheated cause the card reappeared in the exact same spot after shuffle and shuffle seemed weak. It takes closer analyzing and looking at shuffle in slow mow to try and make an argument he wasn’t cheating since top cards got replaced. He cheated cause card was marked and it was marked cause of how crazy he bent that card and knew the feeling of the card when he shuffled. The way people are analyzing the shuffle is wrong, it doesn’t matter that the top cards got shuffled and that it was sufficient to randomize cause the card was marked and he was able to shuffle it back to the top.
Azul I do wish you would stop discouraging people from going to locals. A huge part of the player base forms every one of their opinions on Pokémon based on what you say, like pile shuffling everyone did it then you said something now it's taboo. I'm sure there are a ton of players that don't go to locals cause you basically say they aren't cool and they're pointless. I know that's not what you think but that is what your projecting when you talk about them. Locals are very important for the game and I think you underestimate your affect on people and even how much people at your locals would like if you went
I don't think I've ever said locals aren't cool or pointless I just don't want to have to go to them to be competitive in the game and it looks like I won't have to this season which is a plus for me
@@AzulGG most players that are going to play this Worlds won't be in the coming one. Why do you think that is? They didn't divide by zones so some countries have to compete having no tournaments that are available in Brasil Or México guei for example. I am competitive so I get the point of: in worlds there should be only very good people which is true. But when there areno right adjustments it makes it kind of a bad feeling I guess.
1:12:56 idk... how are you loving the game and quit over one tournament that you're potentially missing. Game is unchanged (it's not like ADP is back) and you still have awesome events all year. That being said, I totally agree about the toxic mindset, feels almost like people feel entitled to worlds. If it's THAT important to someone, you have the option to improve still and spike one of the bigger tournaments. But that is up to you.
The card game went downhill as soon as tournament rounds stopped being just 1 game until top cut. Having to best of 3 every single round is the dumbest thing ever. Absolutely insufferable to sit there all day for the dumbest events.
Would it be too much to ask for time stamps fir each subject 🤔
I do like the new system but I do feel the cost of going to events is a disadvantage, I think if they changed the BFL on regionals and internationals to be separate and limit the BFL even more, it would make the system be more about placement rather than being able to go to more events, personally i think one IC and 3 regionals should be the BFL's.
X amount of CP should also be the standard. Having a clear goal is healthier than an arbitrary number attached to the Top 125.
@@Vitoniteas much as I'd love to agree, I'd start to have an identity crisis here in Malaysia as it's always been Top 4 ranked go to worlds and never having point thresholds. Would love to try this once
Gabe could have also received a ban for something like "unsportsmanlike conduct" with his statement afterwards where he was saying this was a ploy to stop him from winning or whatever. Hopefully we find out.
This is what I thought as well, his twitter rant might have been what got him in trouble
Yah I could definitely see this being the case. It would explain the 3 month ban instead of an indefinite one.
@@crawej21this makes no sense. You are not allowed to be upset for being unfairly judged?!
not sure I agree with that being a good reason to BAN someone.
I think this is the most likely case too pokemon is super picky and strict with conduct getting very upset in the moment at a loss can technically get you warned letting the wrong words slip out with frustration can get you DQ'ed
@@Zutang777tournament ultimately is a marketing tool for TPCI. Any public words that will potentially hurt its image and brand will definitely get punished. So I think it makes sense
“SableZard, but it has Greninja”
“Lemme get a cheeseburger, hold the cheese”
I would say you still are competing against those players that go to all 3 IC’s. Yes there are still spots available, but still those players and taking up around 60 or so of the spots. Now there is about half the spots available to everyone else just because they can’t afford to travel to all 3 IC’s. Imo, that’s really unfair to those who want to chase an invite, but don’t have the time or money to travel to all the IC’s.
Also this Top X invite system just feels toxic to me. You can’t cheer on your peers and friends in events because their success means you are pushed down in the rankings. That to me feels like the end of next season is going to look pretty ugly fighting for those final spots.
Those main reasons are why I think the new invite structure is a terrible idea. It’s fine if they want to make Worlds harder. Imo, I think Worlds should have stayed at 600 points or maybe even gotten a bit easier, but regardless of my views, if TPCI wants to make Worlds harder they should have done what Azul said: Make the point threshold higher.
Very much agree with your argument.
There's also the possibility that people sign up for ICs without the intention of going just to take away a spot from their competition.
Posted a novel just to say you need a participation trophy. Grow up Peter Pan.
Could an argument with the Top X getting invites be made for an increase in events and locations? Like the closest regional to our group is like 4+ hours away then after that it's flights away. If they had regionals that were in many of the major cities, more opportunities to compete would be available.
Of the 13 major tournaments (regional/IC) in the NA circuit for this season, 5 were over the 2049 player count: NAIC, Los Angeles, Indianapolis, Orlando, and Charlotte. Only 1 West Coast tournament was above the 2049 player count.
I expect the majority of them to still be under 2k. Sacramento, Portland, and Vancouver were all under 1500 masters (with Vancouver being under 1k) for TCG.
The changes will definitely have an impact on player count, and I don't see them increasing for these tournaments; rather, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw these drop in the number of competitors year-over-year once they happen for the 2024-25 circuit. Who knows, though.
This is just speculation on my part but I feel Gabe's ban has more to do with his comments made after his DQ and I believe the specific odd length of 3 months is specifically due to him being a Senior and they tend to give lesser sentences on younger players. Also I don't know his age, but is he aging up next year? That would put him in a different age division?
Giving top 8 for regionals an auto invite would massively expand the number of invites. Like 1/3 of all invites would be from those auto invites, which feels like a bit much to me.
Once a cheater, always a cheater. That’s been my experience with that type of person.
London is probably the most expensive location to get to in Europe for other Europeans
Since its top 125 may as well just make each a placement in a tournament gets your invite. Like top 4 at regionals.
Are you worried about registration issues for players that are in the hunt? But can’t get registered due to TPCI issue?
3:04 I bought his colourless Lugia replica deck
When you're goal is a day two on a regional. You aren't ready for a world championship run. And if you never get day two.. you absolutely aren't ready
If he deleted his tweet I wonder if it's possible the ban had something to do with what he said, rather than the infraction. I do agree it's possible there's more evidence that he did cheat, but deleting the tweet could have had something to do with it.
Are we talking about f block rotating before euic?
What bothers me is that being good at Pokemon isn't good enough anymore because you also need thousands of dollars, or a sponsorship, to get to enough events to make worlds. There are plenty of players who can afford to go to half of the regional events that simply wont make worlds because of money. Pokemon doesn't pay enough to make that worthwhile (for a vast majority). I don't see this decision (along with the locals BFL lowering) playing well for the game long-term.
What do you mean being good enough isnt enough? If you're good enough you can win a regional and literally not go to another event the whole season.
My response to this argument: when was this not the case?
To get to Worlds, you’ve ALWAYS had to attend multiple Regionals or ICs in the modern era.
I think that’s a reasonable expectation for invitation to a World Championship.
As others have said, this simply just isn't true. Being good enough is, quite frankly, enough. Win a regional or top 4 an IC and you are a world's competitor. Of course, I would prefer if every single person that wanted to attend every single event could do so, but that isn't true for anything in life. Little Timmy is better than Little Jimmy at throwing a football because Timmy's dad could hire someone to give his son 1 on 1 coaching, and Little Jimmy's parents couldn't afford to do anything but recreational football. Some people can go on vacation multiple times a year while others are lucky to go on one vacation in their lifetime. This isn't a TPCI problem, it is just life.
Gabe's defense of saying he didn't cheat because he was accused of stacking a useless card on top of his deck is a little disingenuous. Putting a useless card on top of your deck knowing your opponent is going to cut is absolutely still cheating. That said, that in itself isn't enough to warrant a ban. There's absolutely more to the story here.
It also absolutely puts into questions any and all of his accomplishments. If he's willing to try something subtle like this when he knows he's being watched, who's to say he wouldn't try something more blatant when he knows he can get away with it.
Looks like Azul will be going to some locals NOW!
1:12:03
Azul speaks the truth and I agree. I like the overall system since it caters to those who are competitive and want a challenge.
Lately I've been seeing a lot of tweets that starts along the lines of: “after sleeping on it” or “after some more thought” and tell you that the new invite structure is great, a step in the right direction 😬 look at who they are carefully, who they work for, how much association they have with tpci, do they have the most to gain or loose from the new structure and don’t let them start swaying your opinion simply because of their prominence in the community.
Over the years I’m beginning to notice there are some players who are essentially mouth pieces of tpci and always try to put a positive spin on what the tpci changes are.
🙄
Nobody:
Absolutely no one:
Chip : erroneous
😂😂
Man, Pokémon players should read more than just their cards flavour text to improve their vocabulary
Just the adjective form of error
Erroneous! Erroneous on all counts!
What is BFL (4) when it come to challenges and cups?
So if you go to 8 cups, only 4 count?
Yes your 4 best finishes of those 8 count towards your total amount of Championships Points for your invite - Azul
@UncommonEnergyPodcast thanks azul.
I'm just going ro treat this as a juror. If the defense has an irrefuted statement by the prosecution we let the defendant go. TPCi doesn't want to say anything then I go with the kid.
3:04 - Gabriel Fernandez’s ban.
Some of Gabe’s matches you can see him staring at/near his deck as he shuffles. He is good but I always got weird vibes from his shuffling
I don't even think Gabe got banned for cheating. I think he got banned for speaking out and being vocal. Pokemon doesn't like their more profile players going against them
Free Jay Lesage
I think they should've done top 25 from us and Europe. It would be so cool if even the best players had to try really hard for an invite
Winners should not be able to play in tournaments after a win…. “There is going to be a mindset change in the community” then winners get to win just give opportunity for new winners. From a viewers perspective you want the thought that that can be you up there and thats why we watch going to be very stale with the same people on screen … this sucks
+0 on flavour text, at 78 still couldnt get that pokemon with water arrow
im in seniors and going to worlds this year and dont know how i feel about this ban because gabriel hasnt clearly done that much and worlds is the key point of the year and he has the chance to defend his title and dont forget hes only very young
Did Caleb Gedemer get disqualified at NAIC and subsequently banned? I apologize if this is incorrect information, however, it would be pretty egregious to discuss two other dqs at NAIC, but leave that info out.
The bans are weird. This game has some of the most bizarre and subjective judging that I’ve ever seen and it gets worse every single year.
When I used to play you could grind for a guaranteed invite, or you just do the Worlds LCQ. If you were good and could dodge some of the other sharks in the pond for a given year then you had a reasonable chance win 9-10 rounds in an LCQ to play in worlds. There was no way I was going to play a whole pokemon season and put in that much effort to qualify, but the LCQ was doable.
Bro didn’t know what “erroneous” lol cmon G 😂
Another "Situation" cast.
This podcast coming out in the new season isn't timely lol.
it is a legal thing with minors a company can't really post about them and I know news papers and tv need a parents permission to post anything about a child so its likely they cant or wont get permission from his parents.
I feel like something weird is going on I agree with the person about sportsman like conduct because pokemon seems to be very picky about this stuff with the rules. Maybe the take down was to try and prevent a ban.
I think it will be more interesting and entertaining to see those players close to the world’s bubble play. Also I think TPCI should keep the prizing at top 32, some of the community I think feels entitled to get something because they travel to events and spend money. Enjoy the fact that you can go to the events and do the best you can and aim for the winning the event.
Disagree about the Noah cheating situation. At face value it looks like he cheated cause the card reappeared in the exact same spot after shuffle and shuffle seemed weak. It takes closer analyzing and looking at shuffle in slow mow to try and make an argument he wasn’t cheating since top cards got replaced. He cheated cause card was marked and it was marked cause of how crazy he bent that card and knew the feeling of the card when he shuffled. The way people are analyzing the shuffle is wrong, it doesn’t matter that the top cards got shuffled and that it was sufficient to randomize cause the card was marked and he was able to shuffle it back to the top.
At face value it looks like cheating. But when you look at everything slowly and since there wasn't marked cards. It's safe to say he didn't cheat.
Azul I do wish you would stop discouraging people from going to locals. A huge part of the player base forms every one of their opinions on Pokémon based on what you say, like pile shuffling everyone did it then you said something now it's taboo. I'm sure there are a ton of players that don't go to locals cause you basically say they aren't cool and they're pointless. I know that's not what you think but that is what your projecting when you talk about them. Locals are very important for the game and I think you underestimate your affect on people and even how much people at your locals would like if you went
Well the point is to not listen him of course he is always wrong and will be in opinions.
Yappin
I don't think I've ever said locals aren't cool or pointless
I just don't want to have to go to them to be competitive in the game and it looks like I won't have to this season which is a plus for me
@@andelinvargad8861 nope
None of them adresses the problem for the rest of the world because they don't care at all as their responses shows
what are the problems for the rest of the world? please tell me and I'll bring it up on the next episode
@@AzulGG most players that are going to play this Worlds won't be in the coming one. Why do you think that is? They didn't divide by zones so some countries have to compete having no tournaments that are available in Brasil Or México guei for example. I am competitive so I get the point of: in worlds there should be only very good people which is true. But when there areno right adjustments it makes it kind of a bad feeling I guess.
Just dont be 126th. Lol
Vinny tweeted what happened
1:12:56 idk... how are you loving the game and quit over one tournament that you're potentially missing. Game is unchanged (it's not like ADP is back) and you still have awesome events all year. That being said, I totally agree about the toxic mindset, feels almost like people feel entitled to worlds.
If it's THAT important to someone, you have the option to improve still and spike one of the bigger tournaments. But that is up to you.
The card game went downhill as soon as tournament rounds stopped being just 1 game until top cut. Having to best of 3 every single round is the dumbest thing ever. Absolutely insufferable to sit there all day for the dumbest events.
time to quit ptcg
good ban the cheaters there are so many more to go
Okay verlis bot.