It's so easy to be critical of a genius who is not perfect. You have to admire his skill as a player, we all regret not seeing more of Fabulous ay his best. Took a lot of guts and humility to do that interview and I thoroughly enjoyed every second. Go Phil, Go Pies
Phil carman was a genius Back in the day with the likes of jesualenko, blight, hart, quinlan and a few others, carman looked better than them, he was a delight to watch, a brilliant footballer just couldnt stop doing damage to himself and others, just could have been a hall of fame legend 🏅
1975 game against St.Kilda at Moorabbin was my first game and he kicked 11 goals in his white Puma boots. I went home and got a black texta and put a black puma stripe on my white runners and have always stayed true to Puma since that day. I met Phil one day running down the road I lived on and he stopped and signed my autograph book when I was walking with my mum. He was very polite and went on his way. The way he marked and played was very similar to Wayne Carey, but such a shame he wasn't more focused on the team.
@@melthoidserendipity1332 Yeah, George was a gun, with a style not unlike Pendlebury but could also do freakish stuff. Came up through the ranks at Subiaco. Played cricket for WA. Saw him a few years ago at his stall at Freo markets. Still looks fit.
I saw that game he played Vs Fitz @ Junction Oval Rd 3, 1975. I'm a 'died in the wool' Fitzroy supporter. Best player I've ever seen.(Bernie Quinlan a close 2nd) 6 goals at CHF to half time..& they win by 2 pts ! Fitz were winning in every other position on the ground. He was that good for the whole season. 75 Brownlow was his, especially when you know he missed 8 games !
Phil is one ballsy bloke. Nearly p155ed myself when he admitted to kicking the football at Ditterich. Lou Richards on Carmen: “the most exciting footballer ever to play with Collingwood ... and possibly the best." Peter Moore (dual Brownlow medalist): "Phil Carmen is the best player I've seen."
Otis Whitton a little too tough for ya mate? I've always said you should never say something about someone if you aren't man enough to say it to their face. Are you man enough to call Phil an "inbred grub" to his face? you're weak as piss
Rene Kink also stated the same as P.Moore. ie. He was the best. Btw, I'm a Fitzroy supporter. My dad took me to see Fitz Vs Coll , Rd 3 (April 1975) @ Junction Oval. This dude from SA, running, jumping, marking all over everyone. Making the rest of the players look like they running thru treacle, compared to him! Kicked 6 goals by half time at Centre HFwd! (Has Carey ever done that?) Fitz were beating Collingwood in every position on the ground. But this one bloke (Carmen ) was keeping them in it! They won by 2 pts. Would've streaked/won the Brownlow Medal in '75 if hadn't missed 8 games. And Coll would've certainly won '77 flag if he'd played. Most level headed people/& even opposition players agree.
When you look at it, that pathetic little boundary umpire got right up in Carmens face - chesting him front on, getting right up to him in a confrontation. What umpire does this especially a boundary umpire? Your job is to throw the ball back in if goes out of bounds. Thats it. What a tool, he didn't deserve to get butted , but he was confronting a player like that.
He was absolutely crucified by umpires throughout his career, but none more than his last game for Collingwood - the 1978 preliminary Final against North Melbourne. Should have stayed and helped the Pies win a few flags over that era
He is extremely revered at Sturt in the SANFL. He literally saved that club when he took on the coaching job when no one wanted it and he dragged them off the bottom to eventually a GF which they lost but he laid the foundation for Sturt to win a flag 3 years later.
The amazing comeback by Sturt from not winning a game in Carman's first year as coach to finishing on top of the ladder in his fourth year as coach and just losing the Grand Final by only 10 points was simply inspirational. I think it was Carman's biggest achievement in football by helping & saving the Sturt football club. The Sturt football club owe Carman everything.
I agree with what you said ....one small correction ...I am pretty sure Port beat Sturt by nine ( not ten ) points in the 1998 Grand Final ....Go you Double Blues !
Lol Phil Carmen's story is like the John Candy character from cool runnings Should have won medals but was disqualified and now gets around coaching young kids with a well known name but also a dark side, I like it life ain't all sunshine and rainbows who doesn't love a bit of tragedy as well I actually met him when he coached a team called tatong for a week I was playing with ripper bloke
I have no doubt that if Phil Carman had not been so undisciplined and subsequently sacked by the club, Collingwood would have won not only the 77' Premiership but also 79' and 81'....Tragic!!
Collingwood should have moved heaven n earth to keep Carmen, with him the pies would have rolled Carlton by some distance in '79 granny. Presuming he was not injured/reported not selecting an 18 year old Daicos over Derick Shaw in '79 is also unforgivable.
Just 100 games what a waste but only one person to blame and account for it....fabulous Phil...What a talented player,so physically fit and in somme ways ahead of his time and now so mature and considered Poor Michael Tuck...record number of games after 2 years in the Reserves at Hawthorn...thumped by Carman and Williams and .......
Another Mike Sheahan example of Football being an ALL Victorian game. No real talk of his career in the SANFL, and it seems those games don't count in his game tally ? Sheahan also plays down Stephen Kernahan's career at Glenelg ( 136 SANFL games ) and Malcolm Blight's at Woodville in other " Open Mike " interviews. Poor effort Mike !
As good as Phil was Tommy had Royce Hart Kevin Bartlett 4 Premiership teams etc as reference points....Phil just shot himself in the foot that's all by not fitting in....Royce swung games and was humble and Phil could have been the next Royce Hart if he just listened to Tommy...unfortunately for Tommy and Phil they couldn't mend their bridges and several Premierships never happened for them both....there is always a lot of luck in life....Tommy had plenty of luck at Richmond like Yabby Jeans at Hawthorn. ...Collingwood really had no luck from 1958 until 1990....Nathan Buckley is a bit the same no luck whereas the boys who stayed at Brisbane got 4 Premierships....at the moment Richmond has the luck....who knows which team is next....like watching Greg Norman play US majors no luck whatsoever.
Tom Hafey , unfortunately, was a one dimensional coach. Yes, he succeeded at Richmond with a team of champions, and thugs (ask Geoff Southby) .Kick it long (to Royce). Be the fittest team. What other strategies did he ever employ ? ? He flogged the players to exhaustion on the training track . Ask Kink, Moore, et al. That's why a group of senior players sort of got him the sack...Because he couldn't / wouldn't change his coaching methods ! (North in 77, after GF draw, were knackered /exhausted, as were Coll) Hafey ran them ragged during training at Victoria Park before GF Replay. Coll players will verify that. In contrast, Barassi , smart n switched on, gave Nth an easy week on the track. Result, comfortable win by Nth over a bedraggled, exhausted Coll outfit. The game evolved. Tommy didn't. Was always "kick it long " to whoever was ff or chf. Tommy was a nice bloke and obviously a fitness fanatic.
He was totally out of control thought he was better than he was, always someone else’s fault!, he caused enormous problems at the red legs disco, chasing guys girlfriends.total loser, omg he is not in derms league
Scraping the bottom of the barrel. Met him down in Hobart in 2015 at the Salamanca markets at a local cafe. Tried to cut the line in front of me. Total flog.
Geeze mate you met a lot of blokes in that market that were all flogs that happened to be in the very same Cafe that all tried to cut the line in front of you. What are the odds eh?
afl is an empire,mike sheahan is a propagandist.The entire interview was cringingly patronising and disrespectful to Carmen.He has paid his dues to Football Karma.He knows this and was rewarded later in his football journey for his previous work ethic with a professionally and personally rewarding stint at Sturt in a widely regarded and demanding football competition. sheahan:s subtle slights and aspersions on Carmen"s character were a detraction from the interview
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Could have been Collingwood's Best Ever Player had he played more than just 4 years. The Legend that is Phil Carman. Phenomenal interview.
Wonderfull Footballer . ❤'ed him at Essendon Football Club.
Pity he was such a Cranky Fella .
Super Talented 👌
Love the complex nature of Phil Carmen..an absolute privilege to see him play....love his style..such a man...
Sounds like a humble bloke. He should be proud of his career.
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It's so easy to be critical of a genius who is not perfect. You have to admire his skill as a player, we all regret not seeing more of Fabulous ay his best. Took a lot of guts and humility to do that interview and I thoroughly enjoyed every second. Go Phil, Go Pies
I saw Firey play his first game for Norwood. I still remember my old man saying "Jesus Christ, where''d this kid come from!"
Haven't watched footy in at least 35 years as soon as I heard Phil fabulous Carman I remembered number 9 for the Pies.
+tony butcher
Back when Phil was playing the game way better, and exciting.
It's unrecognizable today. Hard to watch.
Phil carman was a genius
Back in the day with the likes of jesualenko, blight, hart, quinlan and a few others, carman looked better than them, he was a delight to watch, a brilliant footballer just couldnt stop doing damage to himself and others, just could have been a hall of fame legend 🏅
1975 game against St.Kilda at Moorabbin was my first game and he kicked 11 goals in his white Puma boots. I went home and got a black texta and put a black puma stripe on my white runners and have always stayed true to Puma since that day. I met Phil one day running down the road I lived on and he stopped and signed my autograph book when I was walking with my mum. He was very polite and went on his way. The way he marked and played was very similar to Wayne Carey, but such a shame he wasn't more focused on the team.
Good story.
From what I've heard Phil was as good as Carey, if not better.
I was at that game. George Young kicked 9 at the other end
@@melthoidserendipity1332 Yeah, George was a gun, with a style not unlike Pendlebury but could also do freakish stuff. Came up through the ranks at Subiaco. Played cricket for WA. Saw him a few years ago at his stall at Freo markets. Still looks fit.
I saw that game he played Vs Fitz @ Junction Oval Rd 3, 1975. I'm a 'died in the wool' Fitzroy supporter. Best player I've ever seen.(Bernie Quinlan a close 2nd) 6 goals at CHF to half time..& they win by 2 pts ! Fitz were winning in every other position on the ground. He was that good for the whole season.
75 Brownlow was his, especially when you know he missed 8 games !
Still looks fit great player incredible player
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If Michael Tuck hadn’t headbutted Phil Carman’s forearm we’d have romped it in for the 1977 Premiership.
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Thanks for the video, I missed it the other night
If only Cripps' lawyers were around in 77, would have got him off easily
I know
Phil is one ballsy bloke.
Nearly p155ed myself when he admitted to kicking the football at Ditterich.
Lou Richards on Carmen: “the most exciting footballer ever to play with Collingwood ... and possibly the best."
Peter Moore (dual Brownlow medalist): "Phil Carmen is the best player I've seen."
jacquelineandron a guy who head butts an official is the furthest thing from ballsy mate. Even for Collingwood he is an inbred grub
Otis Whitton a little too tough for ya mate? I've always said you should never say something about someone if you aren't man enough to say it to their face. Are you man enough to call Phil an "inbred grub" to his face? you're weak as piss
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Rene Kink also stated the same as P.Moore. ie. He was the best.
Btw, I'm a Fitzroy supporter. My dad took me to see Fitz Vs Coll , Rd 3 (April 1975) @ Junction Oval. This dude from SA, running, jumping, marking all over everyone. Making the rest of the players look like they running thru treacle, compared to him! Kicked 6 goals by half time at Centre HFwd! (Has Carey ever done that?) Fitz were beating Collingwood in every position on the ground. But this one bloke (Carmen ) was keeping them in it! They won by 2 pts. Would've streaked/won the Brownlow Medal in '75 if hadn't missed 8 games. And Coll would've certainly won '77 flag if he'd played. Most level headed people/& even opposition players agree.
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That's gold !
Thanks. :)
When you look at it, that pathetic little boundary umpire got right up in Carmens face - chesting him front on, getting right up to him in a confrontation. What umpire does this especially a boundary umpire? Your job is to throw the ball back in if goes out of bounds. Thats it. What a tool, he didn't deserve to get butted , but he was confronting a player like that.
That boundary umpire deserved otherwise i agree with everything else you said.
Honest , talented and will always be the "Messiah" of Unley .......thanks Phil .
Phil sounds like a great guy,,,,
I didn't want that interview to end. Awesome!
He was absolutely crucified by umpires throughout his career, but none more than his last game for Collingwood - the 1978 preliminary Final against North Melbourne. Should have stayed and helped the Pies win a few flags over that era
He is extremely revered at Sturt in the SANFL. He literally saved that club when he took on the coaching job when no one wanted it and he dragged them off the bottom to eventually a GF which they lost but he laid the foundation for Sturt to win a flag 3 years later.
The amazing comeback by Sturt from not winning a game in Carman's first year as coach to finishing on top of the ladder in his fourth year as coach and just losing the Grand Final by only 10 points was simply inspirational. I think it was Carman's biggest achievement in football by helping & saving the Sturt football club. The Sturt football club owe Carman everything.
I agree with what you said ....one small correction ...I am pretty sure Port beat Sturt by nine ( not ten ) points in the 1998 Grand Final ....Go you Double Blues !
Lol Phil Carmen's story is like the John Candy character from cool runnings
Should have won medals but was disqualified and now gets around coaching young kids with a well known name but also a dark side, I like it life ain't all sunshine and rainbows who doesn't love a bit of tragedy as well
I actually met him when he coached a team called tatong for a week I was playing with ripper bloke
I have no doubt that if Phil Carman had not been so undisciplined and subsequently sacked by the club, Collingwood would have won not only the 77' Premiership but also 79' and 81'....Tragic!!
Fabulous was a selfish prick who only cared about himself...
Collingwood were nowhere close to Carlton's class.
Collingwood should have moved heaven n earth to keep Carmen, with him the pies would have rolled Carlton by some distance in '79 granny. Presuming he was not injured/reported not selecting an 18 year old Daicos over Derick Shaw in '79 is also unforgivable.
No way would Cwood have beaten Carlton.
honest bloke
This guy was magical and could of been anybody,,what a shame,,missed 8 games and came 3rd in the brownlow,,cost the pies bigtime
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an honest man
The reason Sturt lost that grand final is because Port Adelaide stacked their side with AFL players.......
Just 100 games what a waste but only one person to blame and account for it....fabulous Phil...What a talented player,so physically fit and in somme ways ahead of his time and now so mature and considered
Poor Michael Tuck...record number of games after 2 years in the Reserves at Hawthorn...thumped by Carman and Williams and .......
Coached East Gambier, Fab Phil isn't vain!
Fabbo Philby.
Fabulous Phil he inspired me to have a 20 year senior career.What a waste but what a talent.
Another Mike Sheahan example of Football being an ALL Victorian game. No real talk of his career in the SANFL, and it seems those games don't count in his game tally ? Sheahan also plays down Stephen Kernahan's career at Glenelg ( 136 SANFL games ) and Malcolm Blight's at Woodville in other " Open Mike " interviews. Poor effort Mike !
read the book Fabulous Phil. Lots of stuff about the Sanfl in there, particularly Sturt. A very good read.
Gday William,checkout my comments on the Carmen Interview. Roostersbays
Phil your boots were PUMA not ADDIDAS !!!!
Complex Fella but pretty entertaining.
As good as Phil was Tommy had Royce Hart Kevin Bartlett 4 Premiership teams etc as reference points....Phil just shot himself in the foot that's all by not fitting in....Royce swung games and was humble and Phil could have been the next Royce Hart if he just listened to Tommy...unfortunately for Tommy and Phil they couldn't mend their bridges and several Premierships never happened for them both....there is always a lot of luck in life....Tommy had plenty of luck at Richmond like Yabby Jeans at Hawthorn. ...Collingwood really had no luck from 1958 until 1990....Nathan Buckley is a bit the same no luck whereas the boys who stayed at Brisbane got 4 Premierships....at the moment Richmond has the luck....who knows which team is next....like watching Greg Norman play US majors no luck whatsoever.
I agree. Thoughtful and wise post.
Tom Hafey , unfortunately, was a one dimensional coach. Yes, he succeeded at Richmond with a team of champions, and thugs (ask Geoff Southby) .Kick it long (to Royce). Be the fittest team. What other strategies did he ever employ ? ? He flogged the players to exhaustion on the training track . Ask Kink, Moore, et al. That's why a group of senior players sort of got him the sack...Because he couldn't / wouldn't change his coaching methods ! (North in 77, after GF draw, were knackered /exhausted, as were Coll) Hafey ran them ragged during training at Victoria Park before GF Replay. Coll players will verify that.
In contrast, Barassi , smart n switched on, gave Nth an easy week on the track. Result, comfortable win by Nth over a bedraggled, exhausted Coll outfit.
The game evolved. Tommy didn't. Was always "kick it long " to whoever was ff or chf. Tommy was a nice bloke and obviously a fitness fanatic.
WAS CARMAN PAID A LOT OF MONEY NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 77 GF , THERE WERE QUITE A LOT OF CONSPIRACIES FLOATING ROUND AND ONE HAS TO BE TRUE
He was totally out of control thought he was better than he was, always someone else’s fault!, he caused enormous problems at the red legs disco, chasing guys girlfriends.total loser, omg he is not in derms league
He had twice as much talent as him
Didn’t he play for Hawthorn as well? Not a mention.
Nope.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel. Met him down in Hobart in 2015 at the Salamanca markets at a local cafe. Tried to cut the line in front of me. Total flog.
Geeze mate you met a lot of blokes in that market that were all flogs that happened to be in the very same Cafe that all tried to cut the line in front of you. What are the odds eh?
You said exactly about keckovich. And same bloody market.
Mud sticks.
i will never respect this man Carman , costed collingwood the 1977 grand final because he put his pride before the clubb
He still looks like he has loos screws in his brainless head , costed Collingwood a premiership and should never be forgiven for it
speaking of brainless.. that should be "loose screws" and "cost Collingwood"
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afl is an empire,mike sheahan is a propagandist.The entire interview was cringingly patronising and disrespectful to Carmen.He has paid his dues to Football Karma.He knows this and was rewarded later in his football journey for his previous work ethic with a professionally and personally rewarding stint at Sturt in a widely regarded and demanding football competition. sheahan:s subtle slights and aspersions on Carmen"s character were a detraction from the interview