Casual take. You do realize that even if all power 4 conference champs and runner ups made it in, along with one G5 champ, there would still be 3 teams that didn’t play in conference championships, right? As it stands right now, Penn state is about to “walk in”. Just say you don’t know ball and move on.
their schedule next year is actually on a greater side but too early to tell @ Miami vs Texas A&M vs Purdue @ Arkansas vs Boise State vs USC vs Navy @ Boston College vs NC State vs Syracuse @ Pittsburgh
@@knothyselfknotruthare u dumb if u pay attention why go in there and there’s 5 teams tied for 2nd in the SEC with 2 losses and Texas is 1st with 1 loss so if one of those 5 teams that are in the playoffs already gets in and loses they don’t know if they’ll be able to play in the playoffs that’s the risk of playing in the SEC Title game vs the other 4 other teams with a bye week before playoffs start
Yeah...those November powerhouses like Wofford, Akron, Pine Bluff, Nichols State, Mercer, McNeese State, Chattanooga and Samford are real juggernauts. F**k, what a dumb comment.
Some of you are missing Lane’s point completely. With the scenario that has currently played out in the SEC where you have multiple teams with 2-losses across the board except for Texas (pending how their season ends), the loser of the SEC title game will automatically be eliminated from playoff contention with 3-losses by the committee. It means you essentially eliminated yourself from the chance of a Natty over a conference title since you won’t have a chance to play again. It doesn’t mean they are scared of playing for the SEC title. You would just prefer to secure your spot in the playoffs and get your team ready for a Natty instead of the extra game for a conference title that you may or may not win
@@brad4687 My point is that you’re playing 4 elimination games either way. The notion that playing Texas an M in the conference title game is so much worse than playing OSU, Oregon, etc in the first round is kind of silly. Like I’d much rather play A n M on a neutral field than have to go to Oregon or OSU and play on the road in the first round of the playoff.
The answer is simple. Seat the 12 team playoff prior to conference championships. And just ear mark SEC/B1G champ @ #1 or #2 seed and SEC/B1G conference championship game loser ends up a 5th - 12th seed. So the team either wi s and gets a buy or loses and is still in because it was seeded before the conference championship game.
Nah people need to stop with the sec glaze, ole miss and Tennessee don’t belong in the top 10 with those terrible losses they have. Period. Wins and losses is all that matters in the power 5. Sec didn’t win the championship last year they didn’t even make it
@@kylesawkon4074 its a 12 team playoff, 2 team losses are still better than the g5 teams and low-tier power 5 teams. And they play in the SEC. Its not glaze, its just facts.
You can’t choose the teams on your scedhuele and they’ve done the most with their opportunities so maybe if yalls qb didn’t choke in big moments yall wouldn’t be competing with a “Indiana team” for a playoff spot
@@icyballerj5857 Georgia isn’t competing with Indiana for a playoff spot kid. Georgia is already a lock for the playoffs. Anybody can be undefeated by playing high school teams for 9 weeks. You absolutely CAN choose the teams on your schedule. Indiana is just too afraid to schedule a good team.
@ they scedhuele teams in the conference and those games are set in advance a majority of the time if Georgia and the sec decided to add Texas and Oklahoma knowing that they could give them L’s and possibly ruin a playoff spot that’s their fault but don’t blame Indiana they are playing the teams in the big ten which is a good conference
@@mikegarris8742 Except they aren’t losing 1 more game before the playoffs start. Meaning they are definitely a lock for the playoffs. Hope this helps.
@@GoToExtremes Notre Dame shouldn’t be forced to join a conference, they should be eliminated from contention if they don’t end up with a top 30 ranking in SOS. They have the ability to schedule any team they want every year. And you can be assured that as it currently stands every single year that ND is undefeated or has 1 loss they will get in! I said when they got beat at home by NIU that if they ran the table they would still get in.
@@702TifosiGambler ha! Nah your right, it’s 100% acceptable that Notre Dame could schedule 12 FCS teams go undefeated and steal a playoff spot every year. Hey SHE LOST buddy 🤣
@@brad4687 schedule 12 FCS school but they have scheduling agreement with ACC, you southerners give me a good laugh, typically speaking on something you're uneducated about is embarrassing in this case it serves as comedic relief
if you are going to get rid of divisions then get rid of the conference championship. the SEC championship was already an elimination game or has historically been an elimination game. expansion of the playoffs was supposed to fix that. before the season, people said that conference championships will now be devalued depending on how many losses you have and people would want to stay home if already in the playoffs. it got a lot of push back. well guess what? those people were right. every conference championship except the BIG championship is an elimination game this year as those conference championships wouldn’t have mattered as much in years past.
Agree with this 100% -- the conference champion should be the team at the top of the heap after 12 games are played. Think English premier league: the team who wins the league has earned the most points over the course of the regular season. In the case of the SEC, with no divisions, name the champion after the final game. Will it lose some pomp and circumstance? Sure. But the intrigue will be there as teams at the top play that final game to see how the cards fall. You are asking teams to play an extra game and then go into a potential 3 game postseason. That seems like a lot as the playoff will inevitably expand over time
I agree. If Texas loses the sec title game, they probably drop the seeds, but if say A&M and Alabama, play for the title, loser gets eliminated because they have 3 total losses. They need to get rid of the conference title games and go FCS model.
Disagree. I like the idea of a wild card potentially making it in with conference championship games. In my opinion, this format makes more conference championships extra playoff games if circumstances allow. Conference championship games have essentially meant nothing for the past decade or so and this makes them matter more.
@@Kyleterp1 even the FCS model has its flaws, the only difference is the gap between their version of the P5s and G5s is smaller than the FBS P5s and G5s. but the past decade, it has always been one region that wins the championship or makes it to the championship and it’s the northwest. the only exceptions delaware, sam houston, and youngstown state making it in. this year it looks like mercer will be a good team. Big Sky = Big-10 Missouri Valley = SEC Colonial Athletic Association = Big-12 Southern = ACC we don’t need that many teams that they provide imo.
The reason they got rid of divisions in the conferences is because over the last few years there have been complaints about the division structure for title games.. why ?? Because there are years where 2 or 3 teams are better than the best team from the other division so a blowout happens in the title game and the 1 or 2 teams in the better division are furious because they deserved to be in the game with that best team.. regardless of that the committee will choose the clear and obvious best teams to be in the playoffs.. same as the FSU situation last year.. not jus because they weren't one of the 4 best but because their heisman candidate QB was done for the season.. there are many factors that the committee will consider to put the best teams in the playoffs.. the SEC should not have more than 4 in the playoffs regardless of final records.. the big 10 has 4 teams in the top 5 of the ranxings.. what is the committee gonna do.. move one of those teams out for another SEC team?? And that's already with the exclusion of other conferences having multiple teams in the playoffs.. (big 12 ACC boise state and Notre dame) so either way if 4 big 10 and 4 SEC teams make the playoffs that means miami SMU BYU and Colorado all have the potential to miss the playoffs with 2 losses
1st rd bye and playing a lower seed is the incentive, additionally no-one knows how the committee will view a 3rd loss in the champ game so until then why speculate?
@@JustN0pe3 weak team, there’s a chance Indiana, Bama or Ole Miss could be 9 or 10 seeds you call that weak, did you think before you wrote that? Again why speculate if you don’t know who’s in and who’s out at their respective seed
I don't trust the CFP Committee to look at SOS after the season and select the 12 best teams. If the loser of the SEC Championship is eliminayed then its time to eliminate the SEC Championship game.
Either get rid of the conferences championships cause they seem to not matter anymore … or don’t let it count towards ranking . Once the seasons over your rank is locked in!
We’re going to “rely on the committee” is the biggest flaw in the system. There are many reasons why the committee has let us(the fans) down. The main one for me is their seemingly lack of understanding or valuing strength of schedule. How can IU with the 100th strongest schedule be ahead of Georgia, Tennessee, Ole Miss, or Bama? It is a joke.
How can Tennessee and Ole Miss both have 2 losses, each of them to 4 loss teams and be in playoffs? And Georgia got blown out by Ole Miss. Shouldn't that matter ?🤔
@@vulcanraven9701Yes it should and does matter. But what also should matter is who have you beaten? How good is the competition you are facing. I don’t think the committee is valuing that, at least by their rankings. Yes, they have loses, but they also have multiple wins against very good and elite teams. To borrow a term from other sports they have have a higher Degree of Difficulty (DD). In those sports a highly difficult but imperfect attempt is rewarded and scored more than a perfectly done simple one. I’m applying the same logic.
Texas and Alabama can have fun with that extra game 😂 The risk ain’t worth the squeeze. Georgia can’t risk more injuries OR risk being eliminated by playing an extra game like last year. F that. The committee already showed they’ll punish a team for losing that game, even if it’s only by a few points. They don’t care who the best teams are, only who has the better record. UGA refuses to get screwed over again, especially with a 12 team playoff? Oh nah you must be crazy.
@kylesawkon4074 in the cfp? Have you seen the bracket projections? Cmon, man. 2 loss sec teams, so bama, tenn, GA, and ole miss. You think teams like miami, penn state, ND, or Indiana would beat them?
@@sunsetsolutions4820 Georgia beat Clemson in 21 Oregon in 22 and now Clemson again in 24 sec schedule outta conference games. When’s the last time Michigan or OSU had an outta conference regular season game with a top sec school? If OSU and Michigan were in the sec they would never go undefeated like they were these past few years. The sec is dominate conference for a reason.
So how do you justify dropping UGA from 1 to 6 after a 3 point loss in SEC title game especially given the fact UGA had been ranked #1 for most of the season? That’s the point here. Yes, it’s 12 teams now but with 4 it was a very similar circumstance.
GA should’ve gotten in over Bama. Clearly by their loss to Michigan. Bama loses the sec in 12 but gets into the CFP for having an undefeated season, GA was 32-0…… but hey bama gets in and goes from 8-4? 😂😂😂😂
@@cliffpayne2871because there were two other undefeated power 5 conference champions in Michigan and Washington. Texas beat Bama. Bama beat Georgia. It's pretty simple actually. This isn't even considering undefeated Florida St. It was an unusual year where you had 4 of the Power 5 conferences with an undefeated team going into conference championship weekend and 6 deserving teams for only 4 spots.
Why not go the FCS model? No conference title game, winner of the conference regular season gets a potential bye. These heavily expanded conferences aren’t equal as well. Look a team like Georgia with a ridiculously tough schedule compared to Texas who’s was very easy
@ that was prior to this new format. I’m a Maryland fan so no dog in the fight. (No pun intended), but the schedules do need to be more fair. Same can be said with Indiana and Penn state as well. Schedules need to be more balanced
Completely missed the point. Yes you get the bye but you’re also playing the SECOND best SEC team to get the bye. So are you really getting a bye by playing with the risk of injury?
This is a HUGE reason a 12-team playoff is UTTERLY BAD!!! Teams that even speak of it would be better not to make the SEC championship should be ASHAMED of themselves! The SEC, in my opinion, is better than the national championship.
Yeah...those SEC powerhouse opponents like Wofford, Akron, Pine Bluff, Nichols State, Mercer, McNeese State, Chattanooga and Samford are real juggernauts. What a dumb comment.
@@sunsetsolutions4820 You poor jealous thing. Those games paid for those schools entire athletic budged. Millions of dollars they would not have had if it were not for those games. And then the SEC teams still have to play each other.
The only way to resolve this is to give both teams participating in conference championship games a guaranteed spot within the CFP with the winner receiving a bye week. Conference schedules are basically an in conference playoff themselves.
I don’t think the committee will allow this to happen but the SEC deserves 4 teams in the playoffs. I am concerned 2-3 will get in and no more. I’m not saying this with SEC bias but just how unbelievably good the SEC has been this season, as are the teams in it.
The SEC is already getting 4 teams in the playoffs. The argument right now is for the 5th SEC team because there are 5 SEC teams with 2 losses or less. The Big 10 has Penn State and Indiana who are projected to finish with one loss. Oregon and Ohio State are going to make it with two losses. The implied argument in this conversation is for the SEC having 5 slots and the Big 10 3. The remaining 4 slots are going to Notre Dame, ACC champion, Big 12 champion and the highest ranked group of 5 champions. If Notre Dame loses then SEC has 5 slots. The whole 3 loss SEC runner up question is disguising the issue
@ I hope you are right. Listen this is my concern: the playoff committee may want to come across as fair and “diverse” (for lack of a better/more suitable word) so they’ll want to show the Big 10 more love and will allow Oregon, Ohio state, Indiana and Penn State in. So then there’s the SEC with 4. That’s 8 right there. The other 4 are Big XII champion, ACC, Notre Dame and a Group of Five team (Army or Boise State)
Agree with Kiffin, it’s such a joke this system that they will go by records. Say Indiana loses by at least 10 and say Bama loses to Texas fairly close and they finish 10-3. That schedule is far tougher than Indiana’s 11-1 and Alabama should be placed ahead of the Hoosiers. Can’t believe they wouldn’t take 5 from the SEC
@@EgocentricTheory Very True but to say that OSU can not hang in the SEC is just ridiculous. They can beat anyone, but with the parity this year anyone in the top 10 can beat anyone.
@@chrissmith1364 What's ridiculous is how much you guys really like Ohio State. Can't wait to see an SEC team send them home. Unless Indiana does it first.
We need to build our own Southern CFB League. Oklahoma to east coast. Ky, West V & Virginia and all States south of these. 14 States, 2 teams from each State. 28 teams, 4 Divisions w/ 7 teams. NO voting, No committee. A New system with REAL playoffs! Screw the candy conferences!
They really should make it if you are at the top of the conference you win the conference. If it’s a tiebreaker have a tournament to decide or decide by scheduling and statistical analysis
I think its a big more complicated than that, because we are also seeing teams with lighter schedules filter up to the top. If they get in to the conference championship having only beaten at most 1 ranked team and they lose, should we not question if they should get in the CFP over a team with a much harder schedule and more wins over ranked opponents?
Exactly why these heavy conferences are no good. They need to go FCS model or at least 8-10 team divisions/conferences so everyone plays each other, get rid of title games and get more uniform scheduling. This leads me to Texas. They currently played 1 ranked team and got smoked. Still play A&M. If they lose to A&M, they should get knocked out. If Indiana loses to Ohio state, they may get knocked out completely unless it close, but if that’s the case, why is Penn state 3 well 6th for the bracket when they haven’t beaten anyone worth a pulse either?
Correct me if I’m wrong but Texas and Texas am are 1 and 2 in the sec why are they talking about Georgia Tennessee and ole miss? How do they select a championship game if they don’t have 1 and 2 playing
You’re missing Lane’s point completely. With the scenario that has currently played out in the SEC where you have multiple teams with 2-losses across the board except for Texas, the loser of the SEC title game will automatically be eliminated from playoff contention with 3-losses by the committee. It means you essentially eliminated yourself from the chance of a Natty over a conference title since you won’t have a chance to play again. It doesn’t mean they are scared of playing for the SEC title. You would just prefer to secure your spot in the playoffs and get your team ready for a Natty instead of the extra game for a conference title that you may or may not win.
Top 8 should be 1 and 2 from each major conference prior to the championship game and have 4 at-large teams making up the rest of the seeds, which could be those 3 seeds from major conferences or those who outrank those #2's from the big 4
What they need to do is make championship games not apart of record and therefore not affect rankings. Affect the seeding? Yes. But there should be no penalty for making the game. Before the game? 10-2 and #8 after the game? 10-2 and #8. An extra game that others don’t have to play (let’s not even mention Notre Dame) shouldn’t affect your team negatively.
But what if youre outside of the top X and then WIN? Someone is getting left out. Unless you are saying all conference chip game participants get in. Leaving currently 4 at larges. Might not be terrible but it will accelerate to the inevitable realignment of CFB to leave out a bunch of teams that are currently in the Power 4
This conference championship question is a question of privilege. In the ACC, Big 12 and the group of 5 conferences to make the playoffs the school has to win the conference championship. This argument is that the SEC wants 5 teams in the playoffs.
Once again, the playoffs should be the 8 teams competing for the big 4 conference championships, 2 highest ranked teams not from the big 4 conferences, and the next 2 "wildcard" highest ranking teams. This maintains the importance of the conference title without risking a miss because of a championship loss.
They should have seen this coming, I mean it was even an issue when there was a 4 team playoff. I’m an Alabama fan but I’ll be the first to admit Georgia got SCREWED last season getting left out of the CFP. It was obvious they were one of the top 4 teams in the country. It’s even more of a problem now with the 12 team playoff. Teams like Notre Dame are basically rewarded for not participating in a conference championship game while teams who have managed to battle their way through an extremely challenging conference get penalized for coming in 2nd place within their conference. Not only that but the loser of a conference championship game is very likely to get eliminated from the CFP in favor of the third placed team within their own conference. It’s incredibly stupid that finishing 1st or 3rd in your conference is what will ultimately give a team the best odds of making the CFP but that’s what it’s come to. It’s made Conference Championship game feel like an unnecessary risk that’s best left avoided if possible.
Conference championship games are a sham just to make money? How can you lose the conference championship but win National Championship? Don’t make any sense
The conferences are too big. Youre better off moving to the CFBNFL fast, 40 teams with pods of 4. You play 2 pod other than your own and we'll throw in a G5 game for 12. Top team in each pod and 6 at larges for a 16 team playoff. Problem is that the strength of each pod can shift like crazy in 5 years. Welcome to college sports with a smaller playoff system, where every year 1 or 2 teams will have a legit complaint
The SEC created the football conference Championship Game... It's only fitting their teams should suffer from the greed and professionalization of college football...😊
Hypothetical. Texas and Alabama finish 11-1 and 10-2 respectively and play in the SEC CG. Georgia, Tennessee, Ole Miss finish 10-2. A&M, South Carolina and Mizzou finish 9-3 LSU finishes 8-4. Vanderbilt ends up 6-6. Now let’s say Texas beats Alabama in the SECCG. This is what Paul Finebaum, Kirby Smart and SEC sycophants would then suggest: #1 Texas #2 Georgia #3 Tennessee #4 Ole Miss #5 Alabama #6 South Carolina #7 Texas A&M #8 Mizzou #9 LSU #10 Vanderbilt #11 winner of B1G championship vs highest ranked “G5” champion (ie Boise State, Tulane, etc) #12 winner of ACC championship vs winner of Big XII championship Then, and only then, will it be fair.
Makes 0 sense. You are good enough to be in the championship but the teams not good enough get in over the team that loses the game as they sit and watch, because they weren’t good enough? That’s insanity in any logical mind. In a split conference, 2 divisions, it would make sense but not with the way it is now
As much as I don’t agree with Heather on a lot of her SEC takes (particularly about her trying to justify three loss SEC teams), she is right about conference championships. You play the majority of your schedule against your own conference so for it to all the sudden not matter because of the playoff is short sighted and comical. Needs to matter that you not only win and be rewarded for the conference championship but also be ranked in the top four. Sure Notre Dame gets a break for being an independent, but they also will be on the road (more than likely) the entire time
What on earth are Heather's qualifications? And what makes her an "expert" on the CFP committee? How can you even be an "expert" of an arbitrary group of people that changes every year? She's literally just a random reporter who mostly just talks about the committee's picks AFTER they happen.
Bruh stop the cap, no way they leave out Texas if Texas loses the sec championship game , and that’s there second loss. This is only if you have 2 losses going in the game. Bottom line is , take care of business and you’ll be fine
There shouldn’t be a reward for losing. Run from a fight because you might lose? I’m glad the Minutemen at Lexington and Concord didn’t feel that way. Otherwise, we would be speaking with British accents and drinking tea out of dainty cups with our pinkies in the air.
UGA had 1 blemish on their resume last season and it was the SEC Championship. This committee continues to pretend that 1 loss teams from weaker conferences are better than the SEC runner up. News flash, they aren’t. The outcome of Conference Title games should be as such. Win and you’re in. Lose and your record remains unchained and only your regular season schedule can be measured against the teams that didn’t play in the title game.
The conference championship is a game so either make it or not, you have to win 4 games. It doesn’t make your path easier or harder. Might as well do it and try to get 2 banners.
I’d argue that getting a 5 or 6 seed would actually be an easier path given how it’s set up and if they were to not make the conf title game. 5 seed more likely than not plays the group of 5 at home. Win that, play the ACC/big 12 champ at a neutral site, odds are in your favor, especially depending on location, then you’d play either the 1 or 2 at a neutral site as well. There will be a good bit of “upsets” like in basketball.
@@Kyleterp1 I think there should be no more and no less. Big enough to give the little guys a chance, small enough so it's not ridiculous. And I love that new year 6 bowls actually have meaning as well as conference championships
I’ve been preaching this that Alabama need Ugas to beat ole Miss and that it was better for us to get in at large then losing to Texas I the championship Alabama can’t beat Quinn Ewers.
Kirby just pulled a Dan Lanning not by having 12 on the field but, by taking that L against Ole Miss. Chess not Checkers I say! By the way, I got them Gators over them Rebels at the swamp. DJ Lagway will be doing some early carving for Thanksgiving!
First off notre dame should not get a spot in the playoffs. If you don't belong to a conference you don't get a chance to play for a national title. Secondly, if 5 of the 6 top teams in your conference have 2 losses. Then the only teams that make it to the playoffs are the conference champion and runner up. Maybe next year play 9 conference games, so it all works itself out.
To have 4 SEC teams with multiple loses is crazy when you have other teams with 1 loss. Obviously they don’t deserve it, they’re just going off of big names.
"Strenght of schedule " so you would have colorado in the playoffs with your thinking a team that has not played a tough schedule. Just give out participatIon throphies and call it a season!
Disagree with heather on the may not get knocked out of you lose. Georgia has #1 SOS and #3 record against schedule yet they got knocked out last week. They aren’t looking at anything other then wins and losses
@Scuba4Steve missing the point smart guy, listen to what Kiffin is saying, if you loose the game your out and the teams that don't play that game are in, it's not worth the risk genius
@@rudeboy6854 if you lose in the first round, you’re out too. If you win it’s a bye. It’s essentially a playoff game in its self. Plus, I don’t like conference championships being worthless. If it’s not worth it to play, then no one should play it.
SEC is such a joke. Maybe play 9 conference games and there would more clarity in your standings and people like lane kiffin wouldn’t be crying about this situation. To make the excuse that the SEC is so “hard” now is laughable nobody told you to go and add Texas and Oklahoma to your conference… You made your bed now lie in it!
whoever loses the SEC title game is not getting screwed, they screwed themselves. Texas still gets in if they lose. Ole Miss screwed themselves by losing to Kentucky. Alabama screwed themselves by losing to Vanderbilt. Tennessee screwed themselves by losing to Arkansas. Georgia screwed themselves by losing to an overrated Ole Miss team. These teams can look at that if they lose the conference title.
😂 How did a SEC runner-up screw themselves? By winning too many games? Texas would have 2 or 3 losses already if harder schedule. They’re out with loss to A&M.
The committee contradicts themselves. They say they want the 12 best teams but then they guarantee a spot for a team from a non power 4 conference. Boise is good but what would their record be if they played in a power 4 conference?! They lie. They don't want the 12 best teams, they want the 12 teams that are best for business. I think it should be the 2 teams from each conference that make the conference championship game, that makes 8. Notre Dame if they have 1 or fewer losses(because they never have to play a conference championship game) that makes 9. That leaves 3 spots for 2 more SEC and 1 more Big10 teams. Or you can throw in a non power 4 team if you really think they deserve it. Say what you want about ACC and big12, yes they arent as strong as SEC/Big10 but they are still a power 4 conference and will always have at least 2 teams that are good enough to be in the playoff
@Bam_Bam_Bam_Bam eh, Idk. I was speaking more for ACC than big12 but I think if you are in a power 4 conference and make it to the conference championship and you only have 1 or 2 losses after that game you are probably worthy of a spot. I get what you are saying but I feel like each conference has at least 2 good teams. SEC is the best conference but I dont think they are worthy of 5 or 6 spots, that seems stupid to me.
Kiffen is playing politics. Miss is on the outside looking in as far as the championship game goes, and unstated in his comments is that the looser of the game may get bumped for the CFP for maybe say.... Ole' Miss!!! By putting it out there as fact (or at least likely), he's trying to exert subtle influence, So that Ole' Miss can get one of the remaining CFP slots which will be limited if you are a non-conference winning SEC team. There will be one or two SEC teams that get left out almost certainly. Obviously the team that loses the conference championship shouldn't be punished by being the second best team in the league, and I doubt they would be.
Shouldn't be at 2 losses then.. glad that the longhorns are sitting with 1 loss especially when every other SEC fan said texas would lose at least 4 or 5 games this season 🤘🏼
@@winslettvaw it's almost identical to Georgia's schedule over the last 5-10 years. We basically played the SEC east. Didn't hear anyone crying when Georgia was doing it.
@@winslettvaw always moving the goal posts like an average intelligence fan.. everyone before the season saw Texas's schedule and said it doesn't matter because it's the SEC and the SEC is jus different.. not it's "you had an easy schedule".. every other SEC fan saw the schedules before the season started and still said texas would lose at least 4 or 5.. and to get rid of your suggestion of an easy schedule.. Vanderbilt beat alabama but lost at home to texas.. and Arkansas beat tennessee with a backup freshman QB but lost at home to texas.. and we played Georgia who is one of the best teams in the nation.. not to mention a blowout win against oklahoma which (it doesn't matter the difference in player recruitment or ranxing etc) these teams always play each other tough every year.. most of the last 15 matchups have been decided by 1 possession.. so kill the easy schedule narrative
That makes sense. Even though I think 3-loss South Carolina is probably better than the Big 12 winner (BYU or Colorado), you gotta give the conference champions some respect. Also, part of the issue it that the committee only seems to look at total wins and losses, so a 3-loss team is likely not getting in, no matter what.
Who told the SEC to bring in Texas, Oklahoma and Texas A&M into their conference? Now you’re complaining. Washington just went to the nati, got added to the big 10 and is getting washed! We added Nebraska, USC, and Oregon too. The big dawgs in the sec need to stop whining and asking for favors. We’ll see the SEC in the playoffs!
and again Notre Dame just walks in
Notre dame is so annoying
Casual take. You do realize that even if all power 4 conference champs and runner ups made it in, along with one G5 champ, there would still be 3 teams that didn’t play in conference championships, right? As it stands right now, Penn state is about to “walk in”. Just say you don’t know ball and move on.
their schedule next year is actually on a greater side but too early to tell
@ Miami
vs Texas A&M
vs Purdue
@ Arkansas
vs Boise State
vs USC
vs Navy
@ Boston College
vs NC State
vs Syracuse
@ Pittsburgh
@@GoatedAtNFSnot impressive
They def stealing a spot
The SEC is tougher than the Playoffs
So wouldn't the SEC champ game mean more? Yet some coaches are ducking them😂😂 "it just means more"
That’s cute
@@melsmith287 Yes. The only SEC championship quality game GA went through in back to back national championship was Ohio st.
@@knothyselfknotruthare u dumb if u pay attention why go in there and there’s 5 teams tied for 2nd in the SEC with 2 losses and Texas is 1st with 1 loss so if one of those 5 teams that are in the playoffs already gets in and loses they don’t know if they’ll be able to play in the playoffs that’s the risk of playing in the SEC Title game vs the other 4 other teams with a bye week before playoffs start
Yeah...those November powerhouses like Wofford, Akron, Pine Bluff, Nichols State, Mercer, McNeese State, Chattanooga and Samford are real juggernauts. F**k, what a dumb comment.
Some of you are missing Lane’s point completely. With the scenario that has currently played out in the SEC where you have multiple teams with 2-losses across the board except for Texas (pending how their season ends), the loser of the SEC title game will automatically be eliminated from playoff contention with 3-losses by the committee. It means you essentially eliminated yourself from the chance of a Natty over a conference title since you won’t have a chance to play again. It doesn’t mean they are scared of playing for the SEC title. You would just prefer to secure your spot in the playoffs and get your team ready for a Natty instead of the extra game for a conference title that you may or may not win
Yup. It’ll only force the SEC to try to make their own playoff with the big ten, especially if an 11-1 Indiana misses out
If they aren’t gonna win the SEC game they probably aren’t going to win the playoff. It’s the same amount of games you need to win either way.
They’re not missing it, they know & understand Lane but his point doesn’t fit their/ESPNs & CFP narrative
@@sharpe52312oh yea because we haven’t ever seen a not win their conference but end up winning the National Title 😂
@@brad4687 My point is that you’re playing 4 elimination games either way. The notion that playing Texas an M in the conference title game is so much worse than playing OSU, Oregon, etc in the first round is kind of silly. Like I’d much rather play A n M on a neutral field than have to go to Oregon or OSU and play on the road in the first round of the playoff.
The answer is simple. Seat the 12 team playoff prior to conference championships. And just ear mark SEC/B1G champ @ #1 or #2 seed and SEC/B1G conference championship game loser ends up a 5th - 12th seed. So the team either wi s and gets a buy or loses and is still in because it was seeded before the conference championship game.
Boomer Sooner...
Nah people need to stop with the sec glaze, ole miss and Tennessee don’t belong in the top 10 with those terrible losses they have. Period. Wins and losses is all that matters in the power 5. Sec didn’t win the championship last year they didn’t even make it
The Big Ten is so overrated. They’ve won 3 championships in 30 years with 2 freaking teams
@@kylesawkon4074 its a 12 team playoff, 2 team losses are still better than the g5 teams and low-tier power 5 teams. And they play in the SEC. Its not glaze, its just facts.
Why is this a big deal l. If you’re in the sec championship chances are you’re highly ranked already lol.
Heather trying to tell anyone to “toughen up” when her Indiana team has played NOBODY all season is comedy on an unimaginable scale 😂😂😂
You can’t choose the teams on your scedhuele and they’ve done the most with their opportunities so maybe if yalls qb didn’t choke in big moments yall wouldn’t be competing with a “Indiana team” for a playoff spot
@@icyballerj5857 Georgia isn’t competing with Indiana for a playoff spot kid. Georgia is already a lock for the playoffs. Anybody can be undefeated by playing high school teams for 9 weeks. You absolutely CAN choose the teams on your schedule. Indiana is just too afraid to schedule a good team.
@ they scedhuele teams in the conference and those games are set in advance a majority of the time if Georgia and the sec decided to add Texas and Oklahoma knowing that they could give them L’s and possibly ruin a playoff spot that’s their fault but don’t blame Indiana they are playing the teams in the big ten which is a good conference
@@TheMCJ2011Georgia is not a lock for the playoffs. They lose one more game and they aren’t in.
@@mikegarris8742 Except they aren’t losing 1 more game before the playoffs start. Meaning they are definitely a lock for the playoffs.
Hope this helps.
Notre Dame should NEVER get in the playoffs until they join a conference. They have skated for years.
@@GoToExtremes Notre Dame shouldn’t be forced to join a conference, they should be eliminated from contention if they don’t end up with a top 30 ranking in SOS.
They have the ability to schedule any team they want every year. And you can be assured that as it currently stands every single year that ND is undefeated or has 1 loss they will get in! I said when they got beat at home by NIU that if they ran the table they would still get in.
Southerners and their mandates when they don't like something ohh how the world has turned
@@702TifosiGambler ha! Nah your right, it’s 100% acceptable that Notre Dame could schedule 12 FCS teams go undefeated and steal a playoff spot every year.
Hey SHE LOST buddy 🤣
@@brad4687 schedule 12 FCS school but they have scheduling agreement with ACC, you southerners give me a good laugh, typically speaking on something you're uneducated about is embarrassing in this case it serves as comedic relief
@@702TifosiGamblerthe ACC IS TRASH COMPARED TO THE SEC…
SEC can fix this easily. Just cancel the SECCG. Problem solved.
No top 4 seed then!
if you are going to get rid of divisions then get rid of the conference championship. the SEC championship was already an elimination game or has historically been an elimination game. expansion of the playoffs was supposed to fix that. before the season, people said that conference championships will now be devalued depending on how many losses you have and people would want to stay home if already in the playoffs. it got a lot of push back. well guess what? those people were right. every conference championship except the BIG championship is an elimination game this year as those conference championships wouldn’t have mattered as much in years past.
Agree with this 100% -- the conference champion should be the team at the top of the heap after 12 games are played. Think English premier league: the team who wins the league has earned the most points over the course of the regular season. In the case of the SEC, with no divisions, name the champion after the final game. Will it lose some pomp and circumstance? Sure. But the intrigue will be there as teams at the top play that final game to see how the cards fall. You are asking teams to play an extra game and then go into a potential 3 game postseason. That seems like a lot as the playoff will inevitably expand over time
I agree. If Texas loses the sec title game, they probably drop the seeds, but if say A&M and Alabama, play for the title, loser gets eliminated because they have 3 total losses. They need to get rid of the conference title games and go FCS model.
Disagree. I like the idea of a wild card potentially making it in with conference championship games. In my opinion, this format makes more conference championships extra playoff games if circumstances allow. Conference championship games have essentially meant nothing for the past decade or so and this makes them matter more.
@@Kyleterp1 even the FCS model has its flaws, the only difference is the gap between their version of the P5s and G5s is smaller than the FBS P5s and G5s. but the past decade, it has always been one region that wins the championship or makes it to the championship and it’s the northwest. the only exceptions delaware, sam houston, and youngstown state making it in. this year it looks like mercer will be a good team.
Big Sky = Big-10
Missouri Valley = SEC
Colonial Athletic Association = Big-12
Southern = ACC
we don’t need that many teams that they provide imo.
The reason they got rid of divisions in the conferences is because over the last few years there have been complaints about the division structure for title games.. why ?? Because there are years where 2 or 3 teams are better than the best team from the other division so a blowout happens in the title game and the 1 or 2 teams in the better division are furious because they deserved to be in the game with that best team.. regardless of that the committee will choose the clear and obvious best teams to be in the playoffs.. same as the FSU situation last year.. not jus because they weren't one of the 4 best but because their heisman candidate QB was done for the season.. there are many factors that the committee will consider to put the best teams in the playoffs.. the SEC should not have more than 4 in the playoffs regardless of final records.. the big 10 has 4 teams in the top 5 of the ranxings.. what is the committee gonna do.. move one of those teams out for another SEC team?? And that's already with the exclusion of other conferences having multiple teams in the playoffs.. (big 12 ACC boise state and Notre dame) so either way if 4 big 10 and 4 SEC teams make the playoffs that means miami SMU BYU and Colorado all have the potential to miss the playoffs with 2 losses
Love Lane. Shoots from the hip. 1000% correct. Zero incentive to play in the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP.
1st rd bye and playing a lower seed is the incentive, additionally no-one knows how the committee will view a 3rd loss in the champ game so until then why speculate?
Ole Miss should be eliminated already. They lost to an awful Kentucky team. Kentucky is the worst SEC team this year.
@@702TifosiGamblerYou get a bye the week of the CCG. You could also get a home game against a weak team. Those sound better than a first round bye
@@JustN0pe3 weak team, there’s a chance Indiana, Bama or Ole Miss could be 9 or 10 seeds you call that weak, did you think before you wrote that? Again why speculate if you don’t know who’s in and who’s out at their respective seed
I don't trust the CFP Committee to look at SOS after the season and select the 12 best teams. If the loser of the SEC Championship is eliminayed then its time to eliminate the SEC Championship game.
Remove the bias and subjectivity by making playoff eligibility contingent upon winning conference championship ONLY.
Either get rid of the conferences championships cause they seem to not matter anymore … or don’t let it count towards ranking . Once the seasons over your rank is locked in!
We’re going to “rely on the committee” is the biggest flaw in the system. There are many reasons why the committee has let us(the fans) down. The main one for me is their seemingly lack of understanding or valuing strength of schedule. How can IU with the 100th strongest schedule be ahead of Georgia, Tennessee, Ole Miss, or Bama? It is a joke.
How can Tennessee and Ole Miss both have 2 losses, each of them to 4 loss teams and be in playoffs? And Georgia got blown out by Ole Miss. Shouldn't that matter ?🤔
Subjectivity and bias has always infect CFB. Its pathetic and terrible.
@@vulcanraven9701Yes it should and does matter. But what also should matter is who have you beaten? How good is the competition you are facing. I don’t think the committee is valuing that, at least by their rankings. Yes, they have loses, but they also have multiple wins against very good and elite teams. To borrow a term from other sports they have have a higher Degree of Difficulty (DD). In those sports a highly difficult but imperfect attempt is rewarded and scored more than a perfectly done simple one. I’m applying the same logic.
Texas and Alabama can have fun with that extra game 😂 The risk ain’t worth the squeeze. Georgia can’t risk more injuries OR risk being eliminated by playing an extra game like last year. F that. The committee already showed they’ll punish a team for losing that game, even if it’s only by a few points. They don’t care who the best teams are, only who has the better record. UGA refuses to get screwed over again, especially with a 12 team playoff? Oh nah you must be crazy.
Agree totally
As a Bama fan we don’t want it either!
I'm not sure Georgia has the ability this season but ideally I'd love to see em win the sec AND the cfp. Not worth any injuries but other than that.
I think some of these 2 loss sec teams getting gifted a spot are gonna get bounced the first week anyways.
@kylesawkon4074 in the cfp? Have you seen the bracket projections? Cmon, man. 2 loss sec teams, so bama, tenn, GA, and ole miss. You think teams like miami, penn state, ND, or Indiana would beat them?
This sums up the last 30 years of college football. Always, scared to play too many good games bc u might lose. Ugh.
It’s common sense. You go to the championship and lose your out? While a school like notre dame gets a walk in? Yeah nobody likes that.
No...that sums up the SEC for the last 30 years.
@@sunsetsolutions4820 Georgia beat Clemson in 21 Oregon in 22 and now Clemson again in 24 sec schedule outta conference games. When’s the last time Michigan or OSU had an outta conference regular season game with a top sec school? If OSU and Michigan were in the sec they would never go undefeated like they were these past few years. The sec is dominate conference for a reason.
Lane did the SWIM. “Someone who isn’t me doesn’t want to make the game”
Why do they keep using last year Georgia as an example… guys it was a 4 team playoff.. its not the same 🤦🏽
ESPN loves to baby Georgia and its fans
Because there’s nothing we can point that would say the committee won’t find a way to screw over the loser of the conference title games
So how do you justify dropping UGA from 1 to 6 after a 3 point loss in SEC title game especially given the fact UGA had been ranked #1 for most of the season? That’s the point here. Yes, it’s 12 teams now but with 4 it was a very similar circumstance.
GA should’ve gotten in over Bama. Clearly by their loss to Michigan. Bama loses the sec in 12 but gets into the CFP for having an undefeated season, GA was 32-0…… but hey bama gets in and goes from 8-4? 😂😂😂😂
@@cliffpayne2871because there were two other undefeated power 5 conference champions in Michigan and Washington. Texas beat Bama. Bama beat Georgia. It's pretty simple actually. This isn't even considering undefeated Florida St. It was an unusual year where you had 4 of the Power 5 conferences with an undefeated team going into conference championship weekend and 6 deserving teams for only 4 spots.
Georgia got left out because they lost the SEC Championship game last year. It will absolutely happen again to somebody this year.
😂 that was a 4-team playoff.
Why not go the FCS model? No conference title game, winner of the conference regular season gets a potential bye. These heavily expanded conferences aren’t equal as well. Look a team like Georgia with a ridiculously tough schedule compared to Texas who’s was very easy
Georgia won back to back ships .. they can play a tough schedule. Don’t make excuses now
One word answer....MONEY
@ that was prior to this new format. I’m a Maryland fan so no dog in the fight. (No pun intended), but the schedules do need to be more fair. Same can be said with Indiana and Penn state as well. Schedules need to be more balanced
@@Kyleterp1agree
Completely missed the point. Yes you get the bye but you’re also playing the SECOND best SEC team to get the bye. So are you really getting a bye by playing with the risk of injury?
This is a HUGE reason a 12-team playoff is UTTERLY BAD!!! Teams that even speak of it would be better not to make the SEC championship should be ASHAMED of themselves! The SEC, in my opinion, is better than the national championship.
Recycle this conversation for the rest of College Football existence.
They all better be glad that the SEC teams have to take each other out
Yeah...those SEC powerhouse opponents like Wofford, Akron, Pine Bluff, Nichols State, Mercer, McNeese State, Chattanooga and Samford are real juggernauts. What a dumb comment.
@@sunsetsolutions4820 You poor jealous thing. Those games paid for those schools entire athletic budged. Millions of dollars they would not have had if it were not for those games. And then the SEC teams still have to play each other.
@@bryantwalley Bwahahaha. Ducks spend that on shoes. LOL. You poor toothless hillbilly still dating your own sister. LOL.
The only way to resolve this is to give both teams participating in conference championship games a guaranteed spot within the CFP with the winner receiving a bye week. Conference schedules are basically an in conference playoff themselves.
The girl had an absolutely braindead take. And OF COURSE Kirby’s gonna say that, do you honestly expect him to say otherwise on the record?
I don’t think the committee will allow this to happen but the SEC deserves 4 teams in the playoffs.
I am concerned 2-3 will get in and no more.
I’m not saying this with SEC bias but just how unbelievably good the SEC has been this season, as are the teams in it.
The SEC is already getting 4 teams in the playoffs. The argument right now is for the 5th SEC team because there are 5 SEC teams with 2 losses or less. The Big 10 has Penn State and Indiana who are projected to finish with one loss. Oregon and Ohio State are going to make it with two losses. The implied argument in this conversation is for the SEC having 5 slots and the Big 10 3. The remaining 4 slots are going to Notre Dame, ACC champion, Big 12 champion and the highest ranked group of 5 champions. If Notre Dame loses then SEC has 5 slots. The whole 3 loss SEC runner up question is disguising the issue
@ I hope you are right.
Listen this is my concern: the playoff committee may want to come across as fair and “diverse” (for lack of a better/more suitable word) so they’ll want to show the Big 10 more love and will allow Oregon, Ohio state, Indiana and Penn State in.
So then there’s the SEC with 4. That’s 8 right there.
The other 4 are Big XII champion, ACC, Notre Dame and a Group of Five team (Army or Boise State)
Heather is the only man on that show!
Yeah we can see it in her face.
She sounded like an idiot.
Coach Saban pointed this out years ago. He specifically spoke about the impact of injuries .
Sec coaches should grow up like Smart. Treat the SEC championship like it's of greater value than the national.
he got that from Saban
Agree with Kiffin, it’s such a joke this system that they will go by records. Say Indiana loses by at least 10 and say Bama loses to Texas fairly close and they finish 10-3. That schedule is far tougher than Indiana’s 11-1 and Alabama should be placed ahead of the Hoosiers. Can’t believe they wouldn’t take 5 from the SEC
Let Heather Dinich's Ohio State play 1 season in the SEC and see how their record looks.
They’d lose more games. OSU always has a cupcake schedule in the big 10. They should be ranked like 7 based on their strength of schedule.
Listen SEC is the best conference this year but there is NO Team OSU can not beat. Stupid argument
@ oh there is a list of teams that OSU can’t beat. We should get to see soon though.
@@EgocentricTheory Very True but to say that OSU can not hang in the SEC is just ridiculous. They can beat anyone, but with the parity this year anyone in the top 10 can beat anyone.
@@chrissmith1364 What's ridiculous is how much you guys really like Ohio State. Can't wait to see an SEC team send them home. Unless Indiana does it first.
We need to build our own Southern CFB League. Oklahoma to east coast. Ky, West V & Virginia and all States south of these. 14 States, 2 teams from each State. 28 teams, 4 Divisions w/ 7 teams. NO voting, No committee. A New system with REAL playoffs! Screw the candy conferences!
I want to point out one thing, Paul Feinbaum is NOT the Dean of the SEC! 🤦
He’s the Waterboy.
They really should make it if you are at the top of the conference you win the conference. If it’s a tiebreaker have a tournament to decide or decide by scheduling and statistical analysis
Let’s just get rid of the conferences and have it be a free for all rumble and then just pick the top 12 teams for the playoff
Nah. If you are a legit national championship contender, you should not be afraid of your conference championship.
That makes too much sense so they’ll never do that
Paul can hear everything within a 5 block radius, I swear
I think its a big more complicated than that, because we are also seeing teams with lighter schedules filter up to the top. If they get in to the conference championship having only beaten at most 1 ranked team and they lose, should we not question if they should get in the CFP over a team with a much harder schedule and more wins over ranked opponents?
Exactly why these heavy conferences are no good. They need to go FCS model or at least 8-10 team divisions/conferences so everyone plays each other, get rid of title games and get more uniform scheduling. This leads me to Texas. They currently played 1 ranked team and got smoked. Still play A&M. If they lose to A&M, they should get knocked out. If Indiana loses to Ohio state, they may get knocked out completely unless it close, but if that’s the case, why is Penn state 3 well 6th for the bracket when they haven’t beaten anyone worth a pulse either?
The teams might be ranked had they not beaten them. Lol
No process is right if it punishes playing in a champ game.
Notre Dame should be excluded for that really bad loss and no conference.
Correct me if I’m wrong but Texas and Texas am are 1 and 2 in the sec why are they talking about Georgia Tennessee and ole miss? How do they select a championship game if they don’t have 1 and 2 playing
A&M vs Texas is in 10 days from now. So one will eliminate the other.
I think it's because Texas & Texas AM play each other before the season ends
if you want to miss your conference title game because you're scared you might lose. You dont deserve to be there to begin with.
You’re missing Lane’s point completely. With the scenario that has currently played out in the SEC where you have multiple teams with 2-losses across the board except for Texas, the loser of the SEC title game will automatically be eliminated from playoff contention with 3-losses by the committee. It means you essentially eliminated yourself from the chance of a Natty over a conference title since you won’t have a chance to play again. It doesn’t mean they are scared of playing for the SEC title. You would just prefer to secure your spot in the playoffs and get your team ready for a Natty instead of the extra game for a conference title that you may or may not win.
Exactly. They might as well make the playoffs conference champs only. Problem solved.
@@jrcrit8843 and you missed my whole point. Dont even have the notion that you're going to lose. Simple. Dominate.
@@Jwalkiin I see you have a smooth brain so oh well
No conference champion game you should be limited to seed 9-12.
Lane is 100% correct
Lane and Ole Kiss should be eliminated given they lost to Kentucky for crying out loud.
Top 8 should be 1 and 2 from each major conference prior to the championship game and have 4 at-large teams making up the rest of the seeds, which could be those 3 seeds from major conferences or those who outrank those #2's from the big 4
What they need to do is make championship games not apart of record and therefore not affect rankings. Affect the seeding? Yes. But there should be no penalty for making the game. Before the game? 10-2 and #8 after the game? 10-2 and #8. An extra game that others don’t have to play (let’s not even mention Notre Dame) shouldn’t affect your team negatively.
But what if youre outside of the top X and then WIN? Someone is getting left out. Unless you are saying all conference chip game participants get in. Leaving currently 4 at larges. Might not be terrible but it will accelerate to the inevitable realignment of CFB to leave out a bunch of teams that are currently in the Power 4
This conference championship question is a question of privilege. In the ACC, Big 12 and the group of 5 conferences to make the playoffs the school has to win the conference championship. This argument is that the SEC wants 5 teams in the playoffs.
@@johnbeazybc the big12 is all 3-star athletes. Should be 16 team playoff so 2 big12 teams get in tho.
@@johnbeazy if you’re looking for the 12 best teams, you should be taking 5 sec teams this year. Go boo hoo about your weak conference somewhere else
3:30 not true. Just happened to Georgia last year
That was also a 4 team playoff
@ yeah true
COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS A MESS
NIL fu***" all up and Transfer Portal.
It’s corrupt. $$
liberals running the show
Once again, the playoffs should be the 8 teams competing for the big 4 conference championships, 2 highest ranked teams not from the big 4 conferences, and the next 2 "wildcard" highest ranking teams. This maintains the importance of the conference title without risking a miss because of a championship loss.
Just make the conference championships the first round. That’s 8 teams. G5 get their own playoff.
Greeny was probably in the band
They should have seen this coming, I mean it was even an issue when there was a 4 team playoff. I’m an Alabama fan but I’ll be the first to admit Georgia got SCREWED last season getting left out of the CFP. It was obvious they were one of the top 4 teams in the country. It’s even more of a problem now with the 12 team playoff. Teams like Notre Dame are basically rewarded for not participating in a conference championship game while teams who have managed to battle their way through an extremely challenging conference get penalized for coming in 2nd place within their conference. Not only that but the loser of a conference championship game is very likely to get eliminated from the CFP in favor of the third placed team within their own conference. It’s incredibly stupid that finishing 1st or 3rd in your conference is what will ultimately give a team the best odds of making the CFP but that’s what it’s come to. It’s made Conference Championship game feel like an unnecessary risk that’s best left avoided if possible.
Conference championship games are a sham just to make money? How can you lose the conference championship but win National Championship? Don’t make any sense
The conferences are too big. Youre better off moving to the CFBNFL fast, 40 teams with pods of 4. You play 2 pod other than your own and we'll throw in a G5 game for 12. Top team in each pod and 6 at larges for a 16 team playoff.
Problem is that the strength of each pod can shift like crazy in 5 years.
Welcome to college sports with a smaller playoff system, where every year 1 or 2 teams will have a legit complaint
The SEC created the football conference Championship Game... It's only fitting their teams should suffer from the greed and professionalization of college football...😊
Easy fix. Championship games aren’t considered when selecting playoff teams.
Well, Lane, the Gators said you don’t have to worry about that anymore!
Take away conference title games. And just add a 13th game for everyone.
Hypothetical.
Texas and Alabama finish 11-1 and 10-2 respectively and play in the SEC CG.
Georgia, Tennessee, Ole Miss finish 10-2.
A&M, South Carolina and Mizzou finish 9-3
LSU finishes 8-4.
Vanderbilt ends up 6-6.
Now let’s say Texas beats Alabama in the SECCG.
This is what Paul Finebaum, Kirby Smart and SEC sycophants would then suggest:
#1 Texas
#2 Georgia
#3 Tennessee
#4 Ole Miss
#5 Alabama
#6 South Carolina
#7 Texas A&M
#8 Mizzou
#9 LSU
#10 Vanderbilt
#11 winner of B1G championship vs highest ranked “G5” champion (ie Boise State, Tulane, etc)
#12 winner of ACC championship vs winner of Big XII championship
Then, and only then, will it be fair.
Texas ain’t beating anyone very good.
I like it,the playoffs should look exactly like that
The only team in the SEC who could lose the title game and still have a chance at getting in is Texas everybody else is automatically eliminated
it’s simple. Don’t count the he conference championship toward the season? it’s purely for play in purpose
*seed purpose
I think the winner of the SEC and the winner of the 12 team playoff should play for the National Championship.
I guess Allstate is predicting Bama to beat Texas in the conference championship…why tho
Makes 0 sense. You are good enough to be in the championship but the teams not good enough get in over the team that loses the game as they sit and watch, because they weren’t good enough? That’s insanity in any logical mind. In a split conference, 2 divisions, it would make sense but not with the way it is now
As much as I don’t agree with Heather on a lot of her SEC takes (particularly about her trying to justify three loss SEC teams), she is right about conference championships. You play the majority of your schedule against your own conference so for it to all the sudden not matter because of the playoff is short sighted and comical. Needs to matter that you not only win and be rewarded for the conference championship but also be ranked in the top four. Sure Notre Dame gets a break for being an independent, but they also will be on the road (more than likely) the entire time
Big10 and SEC runner-up belongs in. The end
UGA lost on purpose. So Alabama would get in and they wouldn’t have to play Texas twice.
What on earth are Heather's qualifications? And what makes her an "expert" on the CFP committee? How can you even be an "expert" of an arbitrary group of people that changes every year? She's literally just a random reporter who mostly just talks about the committee's picks AFTER they happen.
Bruh stop the cap, no way they leave out Texas if Texas loses the sec championship game , and that’s there second loss. This is only if you have 2 losses going in the game. Bottom line is , take care of business and you’ll be fine
Texas loss to Bama, ol miss, ga they out because they play top teams and lose
@ Texas beats Bama and ole miss tf you talking about . Ole miss lost to Kentucky at home, and Bama lost to vandy.
@@tyronpouncey5985 Texas best win is Vanderbilt.😂 Texas is eliminated if they lose to A&M. The end.
@ how , they’ll only have 2 Ls, they’ll probably be an 5-10 seed
There shouldn’t be a reward for losing. Run from a fight because you might lose? I’m glad the Minutemen at Lexington and Concord didn’t feel that way. Otherwise, we would be speaking with British accents and drinking tea out of dainty cups with our pinkies in the air.
UGA had 1 blemish on their resume last season and it was the SEC Championship. This committee continues to pretend that 1 loss teams from weaker conferences are better than the SEC runner up. News flash, they aren’t.
The outcome of Conference Title games should be as such. Win and you’re in. Lose and your record remains unchained and only your regular season schedule can be measured against the teams that didn’t play in the title game.
Great point!
Which one loss teams, exactly? Besides maybe Penn State?
Well that was a 4-team playoff. That’s different.
If a team can't make a 12 team playoff, they are not national title contenders anyways.
Well making it depends on the biases of corrupt men.
@@blackout07blue No, making it depends on winning your conference championship.
Lane should have thought about that before losing to the likes of Kentucky and a lack luster LSU. Then he wouldn’t have 2 loses.
Big Ten looks consistently better this year anyways. It's still UGA and everyone else in the SEC
Georgia, who would’ve lost to Florida and Kentucky sans some lucky bounces and injuries.
It's about the national championship. See the big picture. If you lose you are out.
The conference championship is a game so either make it or not, you have to win 4 games. It doesn’t make your path easier or harder. Might as well do it and try to get 2 banners.
💯
I’d argue that getting a 5 or 6 seed would actually be an easier path given how it’s set up and if they were to not make the conf title game. 5 seed more likely than not plays the group of 5 at home. Win that, play the ACC/big 12 champ at a neutral site, odds are in your favor, especially depending on location, then you’d play either the 1 or 2 at a neutral site as well. There will be a good bit of “upsets” like in basketball.
@@Kyleterp1 That's why I love this system so much. We will never get a better format than this.
@@LEGO_NASCAR FCS one would be better with not as many teams.
@@Kyleterp1 I think there should be no more and no less. Big enough to give the little guys a chance, small enough so it's not ridiculous. And I love that new year 6 bowls actually have meaning as well as conference championships
I’ve been preaching this that Alabama need Ugas to beat ole Miss and that it was better for us to get in at large then losing to Texas I the championship Alabama can’t beat Quinn Ewers.
It’s only shitty for the teams with more than 1 loss. Simply put, you gotta just win out
Agree. People should be glad if their team makes it in with two losses anyway. In the previous format, that would have been an elimination
Teams have to schedule better partically ND and Indiana. Both shouldn't go
@@LEGO_NASCAR uh, they shouldn’t be eliminated for being forced to play a 13th game. 😂
@@blackout07blue They should if they lost to UK, Arkansas, or Vanderbilt.
@@bxuzabc How about they prove their worth on the field? That's why they play the games.
This entire year has been a petty party for the SEC. Win your games and get in lose and watch from the crib.
They all have the same record. Lol
Louis is the only one of these 4 that knows anything about football.
Kirby just pulled a Dan Lanning not by having 12 on the field but, by taking that L against Ole Miss. Chess not Checkers I say! By the way, I got them Gators over them Rebels at the swamp. DJ Lagway will be doing some early carving for Thanksgiving!
First off notre dame should not get a spot in the playoffs. If you don't belong to a conference you don't get a chance to play for a national title. Secondly, if 5 of the 6 top teams in your conference have 2 losses. Then the only teams that make it to the playoffs are the conference champion and runner up. Maybe next year play 9 conference games, so it all works itself out.
Yea no the worst sec teams would wipe the floor with some of the best from conferences
@dylanbennett218 ignorance is Bliss. I feel bad for you.
To have 4 SEC teams with multiple loses is crazy when you have other teams with 1 loss. Obviously they don’t deserve it, they’re just going off of big names.
Play the sec they will have more then one lose
@ I don’t understand what you’re trying to say?
@@swagsick6808 tough conference
"Strenght of schedule " so you would have colorado in the playoffs with your thinking a team that has not played a tough schedule. Just give out participatIon throphies and call it a season!
Won’t be the first time. Auburn 2017 killed Georgia, beat bama, and had to play Georgia again. Auburn out.
Disagree with heather on the may not get knocked out of you lose. Georgia has #1 SOS and #3 record against schedule yet they got knocked out last week. They aren’t looking at anything other then wins and losses
Well that was a 4-team playoff.
Do not play in the SEC Championship game, just make the playoffs. That game is just an extra game for someone to get hurt in
It’s for a bye.
The playoff is just an extra game to get hurt in. Just quit football and go to school.
@blackout07blue if you loose you can forget about a bye, your OUT! It's best not to even play for an SEC Championship, too high of a risk
@Scuba4Steve missing the point smart guy, listen to what Kiffin is saying, if you loose the game your out and the teams that don't play that game are in, it's not worth the risk genius
@@rudeboy6854 if you lose in the first round, you’re out too. If you win it’s a bye. It’s essentially a playoff game in its self. Plus, I don’t like conference championships being worthless. If it’s not worth it to play, then no one should play it.
Oh Ms. Dinnich we all know thats not true.
wonder how many snaps in college football heather has taken..
SEC is such a joke. Maybe play 9 conference games and there would more clarity in your standings and people like lane kiffin wouldn’t be crying about this situation. To make the excuse that the SEC is so “hard” now is laughable nobody told you to go and add Texas and Oklahoma to your conference… You made your bed now lie in it!
Lol Indiana would go 4-8 in SEC
Vanderbilt would go 4-8 in the big 12
@@jsar3283yeah the conference with Colorado and BYU leading. Glad you showed everyone exactly how D u m b you are!
Wrong @@jsar3283
@@jsar3283Vandy might win the Big 12 this year lol
Georgia would have beat the breaks off Michigan last year and got punished for losing their only game by 3 points in the SEC championship
@@samuelcotton9145 that was last year when it was 4 teams. See the difference. Plus yall didn’t win the sec title game
Clown
Now all of a sudden,,"certain teams" wanna tank and not play in the SEC championship game!???? 🤔
Ole Miss, who already lost to awful Kentucky. Lol
None of this matter until end of season
whoever loses the SEC title game is not getting screwed, they screwed themselves. Texas still gets in if they lose. Ole Miss screwed themselves by losing to Kentucky. Alabama screwed themselves by losing to Vanderbilt. Tennessee screwed themselves by losing to Arkansas. Georgia screwed themselves by losing to an overrated Ole Miss team. These teams can look at that if they lose the conference title.
😂 How did a SEC runner-up screw themselves? By winning too many games? Texas would have 2 or 3 losses already if harder schedule. They’re out with loss to A&M.
@@blackout07blue By losing to unranked teams. We wouldn't be having this conversation if these "great teams" won their games against weak opponents.
The committee contradicts themselves. They say they want the 12 best teams but then they guarantee a spot for a team from a non power 4 conference. Boise is good but what would their record be if they played in a power 4 conference?! They lie. They don't want the 12 best teams, they want the 12 teams that are best for business. I think it should be the 2 teams from each conference that make the conference championship game, that makes 8. Notre Dame if they have 1 or fewer losses(because they never have to play a conference championship game) that makes 9. That leaves 3 spots for 2 more SEC and 1 more Big10 teams. Or you can throw in a non power 4 team if you really think they deserve it. Say what you want about ACC and big12, yes they arent as strong as SEC/Big10 but they are still a power 4 conference and will always have at least 2 teams that are good enough to be in the playoff
The bIG12 is trash though. You really want two teams from the conference getting blown out and taken a team thats 1000xs better spot?
@Bam_Bam_Bam_Bam eh, Idk. I was speaking more for ACC than big12 but I think if you are in a power 4 conference and make it to the conference championship and you only have 1 or 2 losses after that game you are probably worthy of a spot. I get what you are saying but I feel like each conference has at least 2 good teams. SEC is the best conference but I dont think they are worthy of 5 or 6 spots, that seems stupid to me.
Only Lane doesn't want to be in it😅😅😅cuz he scare😅😅😅
Tennessee should be in over Alabama to SEC championship don’t play Alabama into getting out
NO BAMA BEAT DAWGS TN LOST TO THE DAWGS
Kiffen is playing politics. Miss is on the outside looking in as far as the championship game goes, and unstated in his comments is that the looser of the game may get bumped for the CFP for maybe say.... Ole' Miss!!! By putting it out there as fact (or at least likely), he's trying to exert subtle influence, So that Ole' Miss can get one of the remaining CFP slots which will be limited if you are a non-conference winning SEC team. There will be one or two SEC teams that get left out almost certainly. Obviously the team that loses the conference championship shouldn't be punished by being the second best team in the league, and I doubt they would be.
So conference championships are worthless?
YEP! UNLESS YOU WIN OUT.
Shouldn't be at 2 losses then.. glad that the longhorns are sitting with 1 loss especially when every other SEC fan said texas would lose at least 4 or 5 games this season 🤘🏼
100% correct. The ONLY SEC team that can afford to lose the SEC chanmpionship is a 1 loss Texas squad.
You by far had an easy SEC SCHEDULE.
@@winslettvaw it's almost identical to Georgia's schedule over the last 5-10 years. We basically played the SEC east. Didn't hear anyone crying when Georgia was doing it.
@@winslettvawno easy schedule in the sec, that’s what Texas fans were told way before they join the sec
@@winslettvaw always moving the goal posts like an average intelligence fan.. everyone before the season saw Texas's schedule and said it doesn't matter because it's the SEC and the SEC is jus different.. not it's "you had an easy schedule".. every other SEC fan saw the schedules before the season started and still said texas would lose at least 4 or 5.. and to get rid of your suggestion of an easy schedule.. Vanderbilt beat alabama but lost at home to texas.. and Arkansas beat tennessee with a backup freshman QB but lost at home to texas.. and we played Georgia who is one of the best teams in the nation.. not to mention a blowout win against oklahoma which (it doesn't matter the difference in player recruitment or ranxing etc) these teams always play each other tough every year.. most of the last 15 matchups have been decided by 1 possession.. so kill the easy schedule narrative
5 SEC teams?! What a joke
Classic ole miss and lane kiffin
If you lose your conference championship...you shouldn't be in the pay off
Why? Explain
Ummm…….why?
A conference runner up shouldn’t make it but the 3rd or 4th place teams should? What is the logic in that😂
The only conference and fans crying about this are SEC fans.
Good so Indiana shouldn’t make it or Penn State
The sec don't even have the top 2 wat are they talking bout 😂
Due to 12 being an automatic bid for a power 5 conference champ a 3 loss SEC squad is absolutely NOT guaranteed a playoff spot.
That makes sense. Even though I think 3-loss South Carolina is probably better than the Big 12 winner (BYU or Colorado), you gotta give the conference champions some respect. Also, part of the issue it that the committee only seems to look at total wins and losses, so a 3-loss team is likely not getting in, no matter what.
Who told the SEC to bring in Texas, Oklahoma and Texas A&M into their conference? Now you’re complaining. Washington just went to the nati, got added to the big 10 and is getting washed! We added Nebraska, USC, and Oregon too. The big dawgs in the sec need to stop whining and asking for favors. We’ll see the SEC in the playoffs!
lol Big 10 sux
The BIG10 is trash..
Conference championships are becoming irrelevant