Browns weighing Trubisky and Garrett for top pick - Skip says it's a 'nightmare' | UNDISPUTED
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- Опубликовано: 11 апр 2017
- Skip Bayless says the Cleveland Browns can't win with either Mitchell Trubisky or Myles Garrett. He explains why to Shannon Sharpe and Joy Taylor.
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Browns weighing Trubisky and Garrett for top pick - Skip says it's a 'nightmare' | UNDISPUTED
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Who should the Browns take #1?
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Deshaun Watson
Trade the pick and whatever else it takes to get Jimmy garoppolo
Coming from a Browns fan from northeast Ohio. Trade the pick and build up. There is NO ONE that they are considering that will make that much impact
This isn't a question. Patrick Mahomes is the Clear CUT NO.1 PICK! DUDE HE'S THE NEXT SUPERSTAR. HE'S THE BEST QB SINCE ANDREW LUCK. WHAT DON'T PEOPLE GET?
If I'm the Browns I close my eyes and take Myles Garret at number one and reach for a QB later down the draft board.
Still don't understand how trubisky replaced Watson as the no1 QB in the draft
fang stanley better game tape dude...
But watson has a chip and beat bama
hope the browns steal him at 12th
L Bennet "Way better" is a stretch
alphaelephant better game tape lmao what about the eye test beating playing bama back to back and winning one , how about that, that's the problem with people like u game tape don't mean anything because last time I check it was about winning
😂😂😂 He said they gonna take a punter. " The wind be blowing"
😂😂😂😂😂
"Man the wind be blowing over off the lake, They gone take a punter #1 overall" Lmaooooooo
If they pick Trubisky number 1 overall they deserve to go 1-15 every year
skip is so wrong about this. Myles Garrett put up extraordinary combine numbers has everything you can ask for in a pass rusher, which is arguably the most important position on the defensive end of the ball.
mark perez Pass rusher is not a position in the NFL
don't understand how skip thinks Garrett falls to 10. He is 6'5" 270 and has a better 40 time than Jarvis Landry and a higher vertical than Odell Beckham Jr. Dude is a monster.
Pay attention to what they say
nunya2587 he measures great but his stats don't produce like they should. Big talent, average production
You know who else was a workout warrior, Quinton Coples. Just cause you can run and jump doesn't make you good
Why take Mitch Trubisky as #1 when you can take someone like Myles Garrett dudes a monster plus with the 12 pick they can get a QB like Deshaun Watson a proven qb that's why the browns are the browns
Skip can be an idiot sometimes but when it comes to guessing on draft picks he's right more times than not
trevion sewell when he takes personal preference out of the equation he is usually right especially quarterbacks
will johnson he was wrong about Manziel tho he had me believing Johnny was going to take over the NFL and I hope he gets a second chance
trevion sewell he said RG was going to be better than Luck.
he said Tebow was more clutch than Rodgers.
he damn sure wasn't right about Manziel>Carr lol Raider Nation we out here
Meely but he was right about RG3 he just got hurt that's not on him
Damn I wished Cleveland had taken Trubisky.
Lol
Browns doing Browns things.
But we didn’t. 🙃 now go drag the Bears
Take Myles #1 and hope for Trubisky being still on the board at #12. End of the story.
The Browns have had bad luck with defensive players Courtney Brown Jamir Miller for instance
Simon Winkler Danny Shelton and Joe Haden
1. Myles
12. Peppers
33. A. Jackson
caulin wilson Do u want good football players or just good athletes? Peppers and adoree can't cover so u better hope they don't draft them
Skip wanted Manziel as the #1 pick. He's lost all credibility as a talent evaluator
Richard D Manziel has some potential man but he just made bad decisions
Richard D yo guess what??? Manziel played well in the NFL he has all the talent to be a NFL starter!! He has addiction issues otherwise he would be starting for a NFL team right now.
Okay Johnny. LOL, if you consider 2 TD to 7 interceptions "playing well".
Richard D you mean 7 Td's and 7 ints yes?
Yeah this man said he might take Garrett with the #10 pick. Myles Garrett is going to be a fantastic player
"It sets you back, even farther". I love Shannon
The Browns should take Myles Garrett first overall and Mitchell trubisky 12th overall because skip said they will be busts which means they will be superstars
KFCgotfurniture Read your text from 2 years ago
the browns would take a punter for the first pick lmaoooo
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This is hilarious looking back three years😂😂😂 “no franchise qbs in this draft” “ Myles garrett could be a bust” interesting lol not what they expected that pat mahomes and Watson would be studs
3:14 ghee Shannon how bad did this age
Haha 3:45 "they'll take a punter" -shannon
if they pick trubitchky I'll lol
Optimus Cline Trubisky is better than Watson...
I said nothing about Watson. Cleveland needs to go defense. No QB in this draft is worth the #1 pick...
Optimus Cline agreed! If I were the Browns I'd take Garrett at 1 and OJ Howard (if he's the at 12). If Howard isn't available I'd look into a Corner like Garson Conley or Quincy Wilson...
No hes not...
+alphaelephant you don't watch Watson if you say that
Well the greatest qb of all time was the 199th pick in the NFL draft. So the Browns should build the defense
Charlie Football The browns have no bill belichick though....
The Browns don't need a QB. They need a d-line, an o-line, RB, QB, CB. Every pick is a gamble so aquire as many as you can get and hope some of them fill ALL those holes. Trade out of first, pick at 12 or trade down again
1. Garrett
12. OJ
33. Cam Robinson/Garret Boles(or Lamp if you think he can play tackle or some other line permutation that entails Bitonio or Grecco at RT)
52- Sidney Jones
Garrett has huge upside, OJ is the best TE prospect in year and will be a safety blanket for a young QB and a dominant weapon in a TE friendly offense. The RT will solidify a line full of pro bowl talent and the offense can run through a power run game with Crowell and another back(Perhaps Mixon or Foreman if he's at 65). Sidney Jones is great value in a year, and it's not like the Browns will be contending anytime soon.
Did they really watch Myles? Obviously he'll dominate against weaker teams, but the SEC teams have NFL talent at line. Not only that but he is double teamed almost every single play, with the O-line actually changing their game plan and protection packages to deal with Garrett. Of course he can't jump out at you if their entire game plan blocking wise is to take him out of the game. They run the ball away from his side, or do a read option where he can't tackle both QB and running back. If he is getting single teamed, it's often a quick throw where nobody in the world would have time to get to the QB anyways.
Question his effort or his injuries, but don't say he isn't capable of doing what the measurables and most of the tape says he can do.
Skip has no credibility in his draft predictions and evaluating talent. He says he would take Josh Freeman over Cam Newton, he said the Texans were going to have nightmare since they didn't draft Johnny Manziel and he also said RG3 was going to be better then Andrew Luck. Oh yeah, and wasn't he on the Tebow hype train (he has the ''it'' factor). I can't take him seriously.
Shannon, please be a comedian. by far the funniest analyst on tv
Not a Punter Shannon, I'm dying over here!!
Garrett has worked out pretty well.
Why is this even an argument! Garret is the clear choice for 1 overall
if they take mitch they should be releasd from the nfl
If you have that many picks I don't know how you can mess it up but the browns always find a way
Here's the thing, if the Browns pass on Trubisky and he turns out to be a solid Q B they'll kick themselves..The Browns are blessed with two picks in the first round, so you can gamble on Trubisky, who I think will be pretty good, and still take a defensive stud like Foster at 12 or an offensive tackle at 12
They don't need a QB, they have Cody Kessler who is already better than Trubisky
SEBASTIEN CHAVANNES Kessler is garbage, unfortunately we have to take a QB somewhere in the draft. But I don't think we should necessarily use #1 pick for one
impassable no you don't gamble, if you are the browns every position is worst than the nfl average (basically). You draft the best player available at each position, and wait for the next draft which will be much deeper at qb, or trade for a vet. You are in no rush if you're the browns, so just make your team better instead of going for a make-or-break pick.
How can they still believe that national championships and Heisman trophy's are accurate predictors of NFL success? At best it's 50/50.
Who are the 5 best debate show hosts of all-time?
1. Joy
2. Joy
3. Joy
4. Joy
5. Joy
Imagine if we had deshaun watson
(The bears)
And ruined his career instead🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If the Browns don't pick Garrett #1 it's going to be an EPIC fail.
Hmm let me take a guy in trubisky who has played nobody in his college career over deshawn Watson who put up over 900 yards alone over Alabama and the best defense in the country and beat them the second time around... this is why the browns will have the #1 pick every year for the rest of history unless they trade it smh
Lol Myles being a bud is hilarious
Finally I find someone who isn't as impressed with Garret like everyone else. The guy has major talent. I just don't think he is as good as people are making him out to be.
For people who don't know, this recent Trubisky rumor was started by pure speculation from a random NFL executive.
I'd take DeShaun Watson, get explosive offensive talent at 12 and 33, and then fill out the roster with the remaining picks. Let Osweiler play to begin, groom Watson and hope his moxie, toughness, big game chops and physical attributes translate to the next level. Winning big games counts for something, and Watson's done it!!!
Ellis Marcelle Yeah I don't mind the Browns getting a QB as long as it's not at #1. I don't even think there's a QB worth being taken in the first round never mind the first overall pick
Out of all the comments I saw...yours made more sense than anyone's. Straight facts.
+Ellis Marcelle if they want Watson then take him at #12 since he is probably going to be there.
And if you do NOT want Garrett then trade the #1 pick for someone that does (as in basically EVERY other team).
Trade down 4-10 slots and still probably get your guy (Watson or Trubisky) and get a great haul. Probably not the same as they got last year for Wentz since even a great non-QB won't gets as much as a guy people think might be a franchise QB. However I do think they should get the lower 1st, a 2nd, a mid round pick and at least a 2nd (probably still a 1st) next season and maybe another mid round pick next year too.
reillyrealestate: I do think that DeShaun is worth the number 1 overall. Honestly, other than the measurables of Garrett, the hype is a bit overbearing. He is entitled to self-promote, but by everyone agreeing with him, we are disregarding the obvious. He had most of his productivity against marginal talent, and did not WOW in the bigger games, as expected. DeShaun did!!!
But in agreement with you, if you can trade out of 1, get a few more picks including a top 15/20 pick and still end up with DeShaun at 12 or lower, by all means do so, as it will allow for the accumulation of more talent to surround Watson with
+Ellis Marcelle that is really all I am saying.
Read the room and pick up some more picks if you should be able to get the same guy you want anyway.
I'm not that high on Watson but I won't pretend I know enough about him, or any of the other guys, to say what the right call would be.
I do know enough about business and negotiations to know that they have an opportunity to exploit this situation for a valuable return if they truly believe ANY of the QBs is the best guy for them and not the universally coveted Garrett.
Wow. Skip is really clueless. No, Myles stats aren't that good. But when other teams have to base there strategy around one player then that player is extremely good. Just like jj watt, enemy teams base there strategy off of Myles Garrett. That's what makes him good.
I don't get why people act like Myles Garret is head and shoulders over everyone else in the draft. He's an amazing athlete and I think he'll make a big impact for whoever he ends up playing for, but even at his position you can't easily say he's the best. Myles Garrett 6'5" 270 lbs. Career: Total Tackles - 141 Tackles for Loss - 47 Forced Fumbles - 7 Fumble Recoveries - 1
Jonathan Allen 6'3" 270 lbs Career: Total Tackles - 152 Tackles for Loss - 44 Forced Fumbles - 3 Fumble Recoveries - 3
They're pretty much the same statistically, Allen even has a 75 yard pick 6 and a scoop and score. Garrett did have an amazing combine, but really I don't see one being head and shoulders over the rest.
That being said, Trubisky surely isn't worth the number 1 pick right now. I hope he has an amazing career, and I'm no expert, but from what I can tell, he isn't an Andrew Luck, or a Cam Newton, or a Jameis Winston. He's like a Ryan Tannehill in terms of talent. He shouldn't leave the first two rounds, but he isn't a great qb rn.
So Skip doesn't like Garrett and Trubisky, well it's settled, they both will be great players in the NFL
slsriflecruman87 well 🤷🏾♂️ at least myles can play
Really good video
Every 1 year college QB player usually doesn't turn out well! Cam newton doing well tho but that man is a different kind of QB
Myles Garrett isn't a franchise changer, but he won't be a bust. Trubisky has bust potential written all over him, shouldn't be considered in the first half of round 1.
Sound stupid now
I finally agree with skip for once deshaun Watson is clearly the #1 pick
This didn’t age well
Myles garrett got most of his sacks against non sec teams where as arden key got the same amount of sacks and more tackles as a sophmore and got them against respectable teams
3:05 John Elway is going forst
Browns please take Trubisky, dont mess uo Garret and Watsons career right away.
browns need to give Kessler a chance he wasn't to bad
Mfw Undisputed actually dedicated a topic to the Browns. That's an upvote from me tbh
How is it ridiculous Shannon? Did you talk to someone at the Browns? So its only ridiculous if we chose Trubisky yes but we haven't! Wait until Draft Night!
Did no one watch the VaTech vs UNC game if any scout did he wouldnt be even in the first round. In a downpour at UNC he showed what he can do in adverse situations, didnt do anything in the rain and VaTech rolled, if i play him in the NFL PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE, he cant handle that.
I'm a raiders fan, and to all the browns fans out there, I had 14 years of understanding of what you're going through lol
Bruhhhh Skip is a savage lmaooo
This draft didn't have an Elway, it had a Mahomes!
Thank you Skip. Browns should take Watson #1.
This didn’t age well
Call me crazy...but I think browns should stick with Kessler and draft all Def and o-line. Kessler wasn't that bad last year when you look at the numbers, especially for a rookie.
Breviews O-line is straight trash this year tho
Eric Legend idk, can't always trust experts. they get it wrong all the time
Garrett is a stud what are y'all smoking up there
Watson at 12, Garrett at 1. I would be shocked if they tank another 1st round, they have to win in the draft at some point, so hopefully why not this year.
First three Browns picks should go as follows:
1.) Garrett
12.) OJ Howard
33.) Jabrill Peppers
well... that was the most I've ever seen them agree on a segment. I don't think there are any qbs that should be #1 this year but I'd take Watson over Trubisky if I took a qb
both guys don't wanna be a part of that team
k3m505 Who would?
Timmy 2 Tha Three Grayson The person who drafted by the Browns going to pull off a Eli Manning 2004 draft night when the San Diego charger drafted him lol
The Browns are actually finally making some smart moves. By hoarding as many future assets as possible and not overpaying aging talent they could in theory make a massive turnaround in just a few years. That of course assumes that they acquire the right talent, and that management and the coaching staff share a unified direction for the team. Two very big ifs. But I could see why a young player would want to play for the Browns. Being part of a resurgence can feel a lot more meaningful than being a cog in an established machine. I'm sure the young Raiders players feel that way.
Skip is wrong as usual bout Garrett, hes a great pass rusher and he showed it his 1st yr and expect for many years to come
Everyone in the comments seems to be an expert. The fact is no one really knows how talents translates to the pros, there's a million different variables when it comes to the pros, so relax ppl!
Myles Garrett played all three seasons injured, blocked sometimes by 2-3 people, and was held on a lot of plays in which he could have made sacks. Garrett is a once in a life time player, but I would not want to go to Cleveland either way.
I just want to know who is in charge of drafting players because the Browns aren't that good but they have a decent squad. If they would have made decent draft pics and of course used all that damn salary cap they could be a nice team. I just don't understand what's going on. With a team like the 49ers you know what's going wrong. With a team like the Jags you sorta know what's going wrong. With the Browns you have zero idea what it is lmao.
Trubisky developing into a solid QB helps the Browns way more than Garrett becoming an All-Pro DE
the reason trubisky stock has risen is because people are doubtful about black quarterbacks lets be honest... clearly Watson and kizer are the two better quarterbacks with way more experience but trubisky a white qb has one good season and now he's the best qb... if he is so good how come he couldn't beat out maruqise williams for the job a guy who isn't even in the league anymore
All three are guaranteed busts if the Browns draft them. Remember when they took Brandon Weeden in the first round? How did that turn out?
Scouts like to talk themselves into picks they get so caught up in the measurables and forget to watch the games
Skip is the personification of a broken clock, and a broken clock tells the right time twice a day- this is one of those times. Drafting Trubisky, especially at #1 overall sets the Browns back another 5 years.
5:14 Well, Garrett’s sure ripping people’s helmets off and whacking them on the head with their own helmets...
😂😂😂 and TJs better too
I mean I wouldn't even take a qb they have cody Kessler and brock osweiler which is good qbs not great but qbs who can win some games ill go all defense
Browns, it's cool and all that you guys want a QB but remember you need an OLine. Don't waste a pick on a QB who's going to get pressured to death, get some big men this draft and protect the future QB
"Cleveland is trying to decide over two potential overall busts"-Skip
"AB-SO-LUTELY"-Shannon.
Meanwhile:
M. Garret has 16 sacks in 1.5 seasons
M. Trubisky has a 101.6 passer rating in his first full year as a starter in the NFL (through week 10)
Lesson: Anything Skip says to do in the draft, do the exact opposite. -mM
Get Garrett at #1. Trade up with the Titans at #5 and take Trubisky ahead of the Jets. Better safe than sorry and get both guys, but there's always that possibility that they could not work out. Garrett is the safer pick however.
No one even mentions Mahomeboy, now look at him. Skip a W for calling Deshaun
this Mitch Hype Reminds me of the Blake Bortles BS before that draft.
Stephen Young 2 years later and you’re not too far off
they have two choices they either take their franchise QB or take a guy who if you don't pick will be destroying your franchise QB
Skip trashing Garrett is lowkey one of his worst takes
Garrett will go all pro
Shannon is speaking facts
Well this aged great
Watch the Browns take a punter lmao 😂
Browns are the biggest loser in this story leaking. There was always a good chance of Trubisky falling to 12. Now...not a shot he will fall.
who ever CLE picks , they're going to still suck.. theres a mess over there.. sell the pick n get some veterans.. they still have another pick in the 1st round... i think?
garret even when i think their will be better pass rushersin the long go is the slamdunk first overall pick
yeah if trubisky gonna be the next payton we are fooled
Who df actually takes Skip seriously when it comes to the draft?? This is the same guy that said Manziel should go #1 overrall. Also the same guy that said Cardale Jones would be better than Dak Prescott. And then he'll switch up immediately.
Will E. i guess you never watched manziel in college. Guys was a monster and could very well play in the nfl had he not had substance abuse problems and had the heart. Try to research the next time you spew garbage
Just came here to say trubisky just had 5 tds in first half
Is Skip Bayless making sense in this clip? What is going on???
Skip swore by Tebow when everybody else knew that was BS. Then he swore by Manziel when the whole world knew THAT was BS. Why does he even bother to put his draft opinions out there? If the Browns don't take Garrett, then they deserve to pick first again next year.
Browns need to stop believing the hype and actually get some good scouts to look for quality hidden players in the draft
we better not draft a guy at 1 that only started for one year
If they don't pick Myles Garett I'll lol at them
Take Myles Garrett, it's a no brainer.
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