As a masters student in psych, it's great to hear that Yalom says there is intimacy and focus on the "here and now" between Tx and Cx via online therapy.
@@truthlivingetc88 of course he has doubts, everyone does. he's simply saying that yalom valuing online therapy is reassuring while these doubts are present
I first read Love 's Executioner in my early career as a psychiatric nurse and I felt so much resonance with the materials. I also read others books currently I am reading momma and the meaning of life. Most refreshing and the language as usual very digestible.Existentialism indeed answers much and it's language does certainly enlightens much of the darkness in life and living.Literature is about people about us alone or and in relationships with all its complications hence relates to psychotherapy.Language is most significant also other media such as paintings sculpture dancing yoga martial Arts cuisine..Spirituality also is important.Meanings and beliefs are our blessings and also our curses.listening to the interviewer and Irvin reinforces much my feelings.I always wanted to be a psychotherapist and also I have always wished to have Pychotherapy myself but you know Money was pychothepeutically!! ,an enormous Hindrance.Class colour ethnicity etc. Jesus's message of Love is relevant here. THANKS.
Interesting what he says about Transfer of Learning towards the end - building relationships outside of the therapeutic environment that will be supportive enough to let go of the relationship with the therapist. It struck me that in this kind of therapy, where the bond between therapist and therapand (?) is so central, the therapist has to have a kind of parental attitude in the sense of having a goal of the other person not needing you anymore.
In my opinion we are encouraging more disconnection when we promote therapy via text. Are friends on your facebook page really your friends if you never meet them? Can you establish a romantic relationship without ever physically meeting someone? While professional, the therapeutic relationship also contains aspects of intimacy and I have concerns that establishing therapeutic relationships via text only will lack significant aspects of that intimacy and will lack what is needed to develop a strong working alliance.
For many people, this can be the first step to getting them in the office. It should never fully take place of face-to-face but can save some lives out there.
I think you’d be surprised at how many people are willing to reach out in text who would never show up in an office. It allows some people to get help in a way that they never would, because they would never seek it out in person.
While I was first very sceptical, I then came round to the idea that some people may just not be psychologically able or perhaps disabled to such an extent, that they can't access face-to-face. Access to all I guess in line with equality. Our supervisor was saying she started to do email therapy. She was saying she really enjoyed it and surprised herself. Some people are better and/or love the written word. I like expressing myself in words. Different ways of expression.
The Gift of Therapy for me, was the greatest gift when I was training as a Gestalt Psychotherapist. I practised all of my life to follow in the footsteps of Irvin Yalom. I have never undertaken telephone therapy or Skype. I am retired now, I am glad I never had to do tel or Skype therapy, my own therapy worked because I had the relationship with my therapist face to face.
Thanks for sharing, Tricia. Can I ask, what made you chose Gestalt therapy? I am going back to Uni next year to complete my Person-Centred Couselling training, but am also intrigued by Gestalt, REBT, Existential. Kindly, Craig.
@@chance5745 hi there, I had like you trained in person centred Therapy. After which I did a year long personal Development training. This was lead by Gestalt Therapists, I found the experience very authentic and profound. It took me 7 years to complete my studies in Gestalt. It is a way of life for me now. I wish you the best of luck with your studies. If you decide to go with Gestalt I can promise you it is life changing, not just for yourself but also for future client work 🙏
Creative Uplift: On this beautiful day of the Lord Jesus Christ ❣️ and God 2024. To the North East South and West worldwide. May the blessing of heaven continue to shine upon you. So mote it be ✝️. RQQ 👍✨. Amen 🙏.
Mama and the meaning of life was the first book I read, then when Nietzsche wept, I knew I am hooked to Dr.Yalom writing! Lying on the couch and The schopenhauer cure and keep going..
I am only new to Yalom but I just read all of "Love's Executioner" or rather listened to at as an Audiobook, and I found it amazing, now I am going to have to read all of his other books! Listened to the whole book compulsively!
To the talk space community working with groups. Listening to this extraordinary interview showing us how to better use ourselves, I want to share the zoom techno,off which help to see each other faces of the participants of the session. This amazing technology creates a “room” to meet where each one see each other.
Is all this transferrable to life? Many 'therapists' seem to enjoy the power, being known as a therapist. Are the 'clients' really patients'? What is missing from life, from society that such an industry has grown up? Are you keen to send 'patients' away... hopefully 'healed'? And finally, do patients appreciate becoming stories, or conversely, is the potential of becoming 'a story' a danger? No sarcasm intended here. I have had concerns about there questions for many years.
Healers are present in different forms across the world and within every culture. Many of us seek out emotional and spiritual guidance, and modern western psychotherapy is great in that it seeks to guide people to their own insights, their own self-awareness, to help them become better people within their frame of thought. I think the fact that people continuously seek out mental help reflects a human need to connect and grow as a result of encounters that touch us and change us - not some modern social ill. We exist as members of a larger organism, and we do not exist mentally apart from our human connections, and therapists are simply individuals within this network who are aware of their gifts as healers and are here to increase awareness and harmony.
These healers will come in the form of friends who text you late at night - there is no way to avoid that. If these people are trained in therapy and aware of what they are doing, the availability of text messaging can become a wonderful tool for providing more people with self-insight
I’m Christian.... shoot me.. he grapples w so much. I wonder if his atheism is the culprit. I love Yalom. He is an amazing thinker. I like the interviewer too. She asks all the questions I didn’t even know I wanted to know about him 😂. I love humanity. We’re awesome! God bless!!!!
What do you mean by "culprit" ? Do you mean that is why he has all these existential questions? He says early on that Gods are useful; the are a comfort - precisely because they provide many of the answers. If these answers work for you and are enough, great, they are not for very many people - even the ones that have a firm religious belief system to guide them
@@jjones7219 Saying that Gods are “useful” is so different than saying you believe in God. It’s like saying you don’t need a ladder to get off a roof, you can just jump.... others might find a ladder useful but you can jump and be OK. The truth is, everyone needs the ladder or they will die. It doesn’t matter what you believe. The truth is there is a God and there is no peace unless you are fully united to Him. BTW… I don’t believe everyone who does not believe in God Will go to hell. I believe in a just God that will judge us for what we know.
@@lizguz2771 Hi Liz, the analogy doesn't hold up. It depends on at least two things - the height of the roof and your jumping ability. I appreciate that you have a strong belief and this is not the place, in my view, for this discussion. Be well.
No, but when a therapist is texting it is therapy :D If seriously, I'm an introvert and I always find face-to-face talks too awkward and overwhelming - after the event I have so many ideas in my head "oh, I should have used another word to describe this particular feeling" or "I didn't have a chance to explain it deeper". But if I'm writing, I can put it all out and open up much more than in a conversation. Actually, that's how I fixed my broken relationships with my elder brother. We seemed both stuck in our childhood perceptions of each other. I somehow felt that he is somewhat arrogant and aggressive bully and still he has the courage and power I don't have, and he was thinking that I'm a helpless weak kid. We didn't meet often, but when we did we didn't have any deep conversations, just usual stuff about everyday problems or nothing special. But one day when our father got seriously ill, we had to chat in text messages (to avoid mother from hearing us and getting even more stressed), and then the conversation somehow got deep and I told him how I really feel and think and he also opened up. We recognized that actually we are not at all the same persons from our childhood, and also we are not the persons we are "playing" for the outside world. That changed everything for us. Now when he gets somewhat harsh, I see that he actually does not mean that and that he's not trying to bully me, and he recognizes that I'm a computer nerd not because I'm weak and cannot do anything else but because I like programming and I'm good at it and can earn enough money for living. So yeah, texting can be a therapy, especially if you are an introvert person :)
This is so interesting! I love hearing his thoughts. And he remains so sharp and insightful (and wow, looks much much younger than mid-80s WOW)
He keeps his mind active.
As a masters student in psych, it's great to hear that Yalom says there is intimacy and focus on the "here and now" between Tx and Cx via online therapy.
why did you need to be told that ? sounds like you have doubts.
@@truthlivingetc88 of course he has doubts, everyone does. he's simply saying that yalom valuing online therapy is reassuring while these doubts are present
I first read Love 's Executioner in my early career as a psychiatric nurse and I felt so much resonance with the materials. I also
read others books currently I am reading momma and the meaning of life. Most refreshing and the language as usual very digestible.Existentialism indeed answers much and it's language does certainly enlightens much of the darkness in life and living.Literature is about people about us alone or and in relationships with all its complications hence relates to psychotherapy.Language is most significant also other media such as paintings sculpture dancing yoga martial Arts cuisine..Spirituality also is important.Meanings and beliefs are our blessings and also our curses.listening to the interviewer and Irvin reinforces much my feelings.I always wanted to be a psychotherapist and also I have always wished to have Pychotherapy myself but you know Money was pychothepeutically!! ,an enormous Hindrance.Class colour ethnicity etc.
Jesus's message of Love is relevant here.
THANKS.
Mama and the meaning of life is his best!! Thank you, Yalom, for the legacy you give to future therapists.
85 years old, props to that man
Interesting what he says about Transfer of Learning towards the end - building relationships outside of the therapeutic environment that will be supportive enough to let go of the relationship with the therapist. It struck me that in this kind of therapy, where the bond between therapist and therapand (?) is so central, the therapist has to have a kind of parental attitude in the sense of having a goal of the other person not needing you anymore.
"When Nietzhche wept" brought me here. One of the best books i have ever read.
Same.
My therapy guru. When I was studying I got one of his books, The Gift of Therapy I think it was and after that many others. He's an inspiration.
In my opinion we are encouraging more disconnection when we promote therapy via text. Are friends on your facebook page really your friends if you never meet them? Can you establish a romantic relationship without ever physically meeting someone? While professional, the therapeutic relationship also contains aspects of intimacy and I have concerns that establishing therapeutic relationships via text only will lack significant aspects of that intimacy and will lack what is needed to develop a strong working alliance.
For many people, this can be the first step to getting them in the office. It should never fully take place of face-to-face but can save some lives out there.
I think you’d be surprised at how many people are willing to reach out in text who would never show up in an office. It allows some people to get help in a way that they never would, because they would never seek it out in person.
While I was first very sceptical, I then came round to the idea that some people may just not be psychologically able or perhaps disabled to such an extent, that they can't access face-to-face. Access to all I guess in line with equality. Our supervisor was saying she started to do email therapy. She was saying she really enjoyed it and surprised herself. Some people are better and/or love the written word. I like expressing myself in words. Different ways of expression.
The Gift of Therapy for me, was the greatest gift when I was training as a Gestalt Psychotherapist. I practised all of my life to follow in the footsteps of Irvin Yalom. I have never undertaken telephone therapy or Skype. I am retired now, I am glad I never had to do tel or Skype therapy, my own therapy worked because I had the relationship with my therapist face to face.
Thanks for sharing, Tricia. Can I ask, what made you chose Gestalt therapy? I am going back to Uni next year to complete my Person-Centred Couselling training, but am also intrigued by Gestalt, REBT, Existential. Kindly, Craig.
@@chance5745 hi there, I had like you trained in person centred Therapy. After which I did a year long personal Development training. This was lead by Gestalt Therapists, I found the experience very authentic and profound. It took me 7 years to complete my studies in Gestalt. It is a way of life for me now. I wish you the best of luck with your studies. If you decide to go with Gestalt I can promise you it is life changing, not just for yourself but also for future client work 🙏
Thanks very much. How lovely to hear that your found such value in Gestalt therapy. 😁
A good book he wrote on therapy sessions..called ‘ Every Day Gets a Little Bit Closer’ .
Creative Uplift: On this beautiful day of the Lord Jesus Christ ❣️ and God 2024. To the North East South and West worldwide. May the blessing of heaven continue to shine upon you. So mote it be ✝️. RQQ 👍✨. Amen 🙏.
Mama and the meaning of life was the first book I read, then when Nietzsche wept, I knew I am hooked to Dr.Yalom writing! Lying on the couch and The schopenhauer cure and keep going..
I am only new to Yalom but I just read all of "Love's Executioner" or rather listened to at as an Audiobook, and I found it amazing, now I am going to have to read all of his other books! Listened to the whole book compulsively!
Momma and the meaning of life??? I'm holding it in my hands right now!:))) my favourite one :)
cor thanks. check out Sadhguru !
me gusta que le preguntan algunas cosas sobre los "clientes" y él responde sobre "pacientes"
Elisa Gaytán por eso-él es psiquiatra (doctor médico).
To the talk space community working with groups. Listening to this extraordinary interview showing us how to better use ourselves, I want to share the zoom techno,off which help to see each other faces of the participants of the session. This amazing technology creates a “room” to meet where each one see each other.
Escape from freedom is a very interesting read
Is all this transferrable to life? Many 'therapists' seem to enjoy the power, being known as a therapist. Are the 'clients' really patients'? What is missing from life, from society that such an industry has grown up? Are you keen to send 'patients' away... hopefully 'healed'? And finally, do patients appreciate becoming stories, or conversely, is the potential of becoming 'a story' a danger? No sarcasm intended here. I have had concerns about there questions for many years.
Healers are present in different forms across the world and within every culture. Many of us seek out emotional and spiritual guidance, and modern western psychotherapy is great in that it seeks to guide people to their own insights, their own self-awareness, to help them become better people within their frame of thought. I think the fact that people continuously seek out mental help reflects a human need to connect and grow as a result of encounters that touch us and change us - not some modern social ill.
We exist as members of a larger organism, and we do not exist mentally apart from our human connections, and therapists are simply individuals within this network who are aware of their gifts as healers and are here to increase awareness and harmony.
These healers will come in the form of friends who text you late at night - there is no way to avoid that. If these people are trained in therapy and aware of what they are doing, the availability of text messaging can become a wonderful tool for providing more people with self-insight
too glowing perhaps ?
also architecture can happen until very old age
Let's face it: it's all about the business.
I’m Christian.... shoot me.. he grapples w so much. I wonder if his atheism is the culprit. I love Yalom. He is an amazing thinker. I like the interviewer too. She asks all the questions I didn’t even know I wanted to know about him 😂. I love humanity. We’re awesome! God bless!!!!
What do you mean by "culprit" ? Do you mean that is why he has all these existential questions? He says early on that Gods are useful; the are a comfort - precisely because they provide many of the answers. If these answers work for you and are enough, great, they are not for very many people - even the ones that have a firm religious belief system to guide them
@@jjones7219 Saying that Gods are “useful” is so different than saying you believe in God. It’s like saying you don’t need a ladder to get off a roof, you can just jump.... others might find a ladder useful but you can jump and be OK. The truth is, everyone needs the ladder or they will die. It doesn’t matter what you believe. The truth is there is a God and there is no peace unless you are fully united to Him. BTW… I don’t believe everyone who does not believe in God Will go to hell. I believe in a just God that will judge us for what we know.
@@lizguz2771 Hi Liz, the analogy doesn't hold up. It depends on at least two things - the height of the roof and your jumping ability. I appreciate that you have a strong belief and this is not the place, in my view, for this discussion. Be well.
What has he missed?
If you're texting, it's not therapy.
No, but when a therapist is texting it is therapy :D
If seriously, I'm an introvert and I always find face-to-face talks too awkward and overwhelming - after the event I have so many ideas in my head "oh, I should have used another word to describe this particular feeling" or "I didn't have a chance to explain it deeper". But if I'm writing, I can put it all out and open up much more than in a conversation.
Actually, that's how I fixed my broken relationships with my elder brother. We seemed both stuck in our childhood perceptions of each other. I somehow felt that he is somewhat arrogant and aggressive bully and still he has the courage and power I don't have, and he was thinking that I'm a helpless weak kid. We didn't meet often, but when we did we didn't have any deep conversations, just usual stuff about everyday problems or nothing special.
But one day when our father got seriously ill, we had to chat in text messages (to avoid mother from hearing us and getting even more stressed), and then the conversation somehow got deep and I told him how I really feel and think and he also opened up. We recognized that actually we are not at all the same persons from our childhood, and also we are not the persons we are "playing" for the outside world. That changed everything for us. Now when he gets somewhat harsh, I see that he actually does not mean that and that he's not trying to bully me, and he recognizes that I'm a computer nerd not because I'm weak and cannot do anything else but because I like programming and I'm good at it and can earn enough money for living.
So yeah, texting can be a therapy, especially if you are an introvert person :)
..take an example of him....greta.......
How does Greta Thunberg factor into this?
Drat, I didn't realise this was a corporate ad.
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Talk space 😒
Thank you for this great Video! I love Irvin Yalom.