Karen Read trial for killing Boston cop boyfriend underway | Dan Abrams Live
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
- Jesse Weber, an attorney and an anchor for the Law & Crime Network, believes the Karen Read defense has a good case, thanks to questionable behavior by some responding officers. But criminal defense attorney Imran Ansari believes the statements by Read, herself, make it easy for the prosecution. Criminal defense attorney Jonna Spilbor asks: Who knows better than cops how to do a cover-up?
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Everyone is involved! Even the dog
At first, a tightly knit group of friends that were cops and/or married to them were involved. They messed up and panicked, dumped him outside, Googled how long he’d have to be there so he’d die and then people that were close to the families just kept quiet. This isn’t rocket science. The investigator didn’t even question the majority of the people in the house until months later. Over a year in some cases.
The best comment 😂😂😂
@@ForeverMJful It’s easy to laugh until you actually look at the evidence
@@ByronTexas Whether you agree or not, the above comment is funny. Not a single word I wrote refers to the case, or suggests I am somehow laughing at it. The case is extremely bizarre, yet so sad and heartbreaking for many, especially his parents, niece and nephew and his brother. I assume that just like yourself, finding out the real perpetrator/s and prosecuting the guilty party is what matters. The only truth and fact here is that a man, a very decent human being was murdered. Two children lost the closest thing they knew to a father, parents lost a child in a terrible manner.
And currently, all I hear about the case is a spectacle, where many of the involved parties are either lying, or the investigation they have done in this case is extremely poor. Either way, we will see how the rest of the trial evolves and enfolds. Rest in Peace Mr. John O’Keefe. My sincere condolences to the family
You're ignoring the FBI investigation. They don't look into local cases very often unless there is something to it. Also, the FBI, allegedly, came to the conclusion that the car didn't cause the injuries. If that is true and someone from the FBI testifies for the defense, it's over. If the injuries don't fit, the jury will acquit!
Not one canton police officer saw any tail light pieces at the scene. Then when the MSP go to the scene after everyone has left they find 45 pieces of tail light .
@@pdtenn6829and there's a video of that tail light totally intact hours after she supposedly hit John.
Agree Jesse Weber. This case reeks with reasonable doubt. Doesn’t matter how unlikely a cover up sounds, it is unfolding in front of our eyes.
You can't spend 5 minutes on this case and make an educated judgement about it. Don't even try. I've been following it for over a year... IT'S COMPLEX!!
None if the police or first responders put it in their report. Then they get on the stand and stories have changed. It’s unreal the level of corruption there is. She’s innocent!!!
Cop's corrupt; that pic of the victim's arm came from a dog that they ditched & their house !
I changed my mind completely to her defense ! And the paramedic commited Perjury on the stand yesterday ; this is horrendous LE Corruption 😞
Those don't look anything like dog bites. I could be wrong, but I have seen many dog bites over my career. I'll be interested what a forensic pathologist will say on the stand. Dog bites typically puncture and are deeper than what I can see from the photo. These look like scrapes along the surface.
@@user-wi4iw9ko6j Look closer at the puncture 's and the inside elbow where the dog clamped down and the bruising.
@@user-wi4iw9ko6jIf you Google dog bite images, you will see how wrong you are. Many of them, especially the ones on arms, look EXACTLY like Officer O’Keefe’s injuries.
@@kasarija I don't think so. I've seen many in person. These look like scrapes. The forensic pathologist will easily be able to tell.
@@user-wi4iw9ko6j The forensic pathology and all other investigative measures in this case are a joke so far. We’ll have to see if it gets any better but I heard yesterday that the tissue samples taken from the victim were either lost or never taken at all and his clothing was not submitted as evidence for weeks. It’s also been stated that he had a head wound and had lost pints of blood. Yet there was very little blood at the scene. What blood there was, they collected in Solo cups borrowed from a nearby home. If there is any actual evidence, it is so tainted it will be worthless.
There was never supposed to be a trial. They upped the charges to 2nd degree murder because they never expected her to fight them.
False.
Exactly Kim!!! They increased the charges to try to force her to take a plea deal so this would never go to trial. They totally screwed their plan up by overcharging her!!!
The second-degree murderer is used when you kill someone is a drunk driving case. Essentially it says that you knew your behavior was reckless and that behavior then caused to death. It doesn’t mean you intentionally were out to kill. This is the correct charge, folks that support Karen Reed, say it’s being overcharged because there is an intention on Karen’s part to kill him, but that doesn’t have to be the case, there are three different degrees within second-degree that outline the charges that applied in this case.
@@HokieJuju you dont understand the legal process. The grand jury indicted her and upped the charge to second degree murder. Don’t you think if there was a cover up of any sort the federal investigation would have reported same?
@mauiswift6391 the feds aren't done with their investigation so what are you talking about?
Most of them aren’t JUST cops - they’re family members and friends of decades!
And that includes the judge!! Who refused to recluse herself from this trial.
And it’s not a lot of people. After watching the first week-not one of them are necessarily in on “some vast conspiracy”. Seems McLaughlin misheard what Karen said given McCabe’s first statement to police said KR said “could I have hit? Did I hit him?” Not the “I hit him.” And McLaughlin opened the ambulance door and told them inside “she said I hit him” which they all repeated-and credited it to a woman-KR fit that. Then the firehouse was talking about it constantly and morphed. Easy to understand.
Only people who were really actually in on it, I believe, was Proctor, Higgins, the Alberts and Jen McCabe. I believe many others just believed their friends and went along with what they were told.
Even if Karen Read had hit John O’Keefe (which I absolutely don’t believe is the case after following this case for over a year), there is absolutely no way in hell she did it on purpose & intentionally which would make her not guilty of 2nd degree murder (which is what she is charged with). The commonwealth increased her charges from manslaughter to 2nd degree murder, seriously overcharging her. I’d speculate they did that in order to try & get her to take a plea deal so this case would never go to trial. They knew the case was severely flawed at best & an absolute coverup at worst. If they hadn’t increased the charges to 2nd degree murder, they likely would’ve gotten away with this horrendous thing they’ve done to poor Karen Read. The fact that they could do this to an innocent woman & let her take the fall for something they all know she didn’t do & they can still sleep just fine every night speaks absolute volumes about the evil, vile monsters who killed an innocent Boston police officer & framed his innocent girlfriend!!!! I don’t know how anyone could live with themselves knowing they could send an innocent person to prison for a crime they didn’t commit. There’s a special place in hell reserved especially for the people involved in John’s murder & the subsequent coverup!!!
They got away covering up the murder of Sandra Birchmore, of course they thought they could get away with pinning this on Read.
You’ve said everything!
There are different degrees within second-degree murder that someone can be charged for. In this case she’s being charged with knowing her behavior was reckless, resulting in a death. It’s the same charge use when someone is drunk and kill someone drinking and driving. Everyone online keeps on saying how she is no way intentionally meant to do this. It’s a dog whistle. That’s not what the prosecution is saying with the charges.
The Canton female cop Sandra Birchmore, 23 years old, was murdered. I believe 2 of the cops resigned but didn't get charged for killing her!
I would not say no way. She had been drinking too and alcohol can make people do things they wouldn't normally do especially when emotions are high like having a fight with someone and can cause an over reaction. Everyone needs to wait to hear all the evidence and not decide ahead of time who is guilty. Look at the Nicolai Mui case, bunch of people drinking, over reaction by a guy with a knife and a teen dead. If the same scenario happened without alcohol, it may have been a lot different outcome
If they believed she said that, and that she was drunk, why didn’t they arrest her for DUI and hit and run right there and then?
They didn't know they were going to frame her just then, they we're still working up the plan. They're probably kicking themselves right now.
After Ms Reade walks, there has to be a trial for these (almost) laughably corrupt officers & the others involved.
which corrupt player will be charging them?
Come on man!! The guy was huge, How could she have killed him with her tail light.
Key STATEMENT: There would have to be at least 12 different people to have been involved.
Because there WERE MORE THAN 12 PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE COVER UP! Mostly law enforcement! BAM! Free Karen Read!
Not necessarily that many. A few doing the cover up and the rest who were just told the rest what to think.
I'm 15-20 mins from Canton... And agree Jesse
free Karen Read!
It wasnt all the Cops and FF. But key players are very involved. I bet quite a few of them has friends questioning her innocence right now.
Dan Abrahams acting like systemic corruption and official criminal activity isn’t a thing cause it may involve several people is laughable- considering it’s more the norm than the exception - councils, HOA, FBI, CIA, military, medical professions, the judiciary l, all other levels of government. And it’s at an all time high across All western countries.
In Australia a few years back there was a 99-year suppression order placed on naming/exposing the (seemingly ritual) sexual abuse of children by high level officials & well known figures across the legislature/judiciary/media and so on. The reason being that “it would cause the people to lose faith in the judiciary” & I quote.
If you name then - as has been done by several people in Australia- you will be jailed.
Well use your imagination of what this actually means - just like Epstein island and similar - used to blackmail those in positions of power & influence (who they can’t bribe). And then letting these people dictate terms for your lives - and that’s how the puppet mastery is achieved. Hence the levels of corruption and compromise at the highest levels are off the charts.
And that’s just the Shiite simple version of what’s going on.
Though somewhere you’ll always find a grabbler 🇮🇱 behind it. That’s just a simple fact. And especially in the West.
Exactly!!
100% agree corruption is everywhere everyday. And most of them are getting awa with it!
Not to mention you can’t have your 1st amendment 200 yards from the courthouse
It seems like Jesse Webber and that lady are the only ones with a brain on that panel. Wow
Not guilty, so far prosecution has not proved their case. And did she say I hit him or could I have hit him or I hit him as a question? And didn’t she back into another car when she was leaving her driveway? They have camera footage on that. And the scratches? Things were deep, cuts, or puncture wounds It’s not consistent with a car hitting him.
I think she’s guilty. I mean, if you use like the razor theory, the simply answers usually the correct one.. no way they coordinate like 20 people to keep their stories straight to try to cover this up and pin it on Karen that didn’t happen.
@@GML_123. why "no way?" You don't understand this town and the townie mentality.
@@Violet_Lotus_ I live in Massachusetts. I am fully aware.
@@GML_123. I live in Mass. too. My town doesn't function like theirs... It's an anomaly.
Not guilty
Everyone there has reported her saying a different thing! Nine of the witnesses so far ( except the very young paramedic) couldn’t lie straight in bed. It only takes one juror to have one reasonable doubt.
Jesse is the Man!!
"What especially bothers Read supporters were that O’Keefe’s injuries were above the neck and isolated to his right arm, and that the backs of his hands looked like boxer’s fractures - all seemingly inconsistent with a hit-and-run. He also had a two-inch gash at the back of his head, yet there was little to no blood at the crime scene. Furthermore, they claim, marks on his arms were consistent with dog bites."
"Brian Albert and his wife ripped up their basement floor and sold their home, which had belonged to the Albert family for years, a few months after O’Keefe’s death, according to Read’s defense team. Their German shepherd Chloe, who reportedly had a history of biting people, was rehomed not long after."
Source: The New York Post
Dated: April 15, 2024
Never a believer in grand cover-ups? Cmon what is happening to critical thinking?
She was Framed. Originally was supposed to be Lucky the plow driver.
Way too much reasonable doubt!
She backed into a car
Jesse is right...
Cop that testified said that he didn’t put in his report that she said ‘l hit him’🤷🏻♂️
He said it was an oversight. Whaaaaat? Yeah right of course Officer, just a minor detail left off your report 🙄
Back. The. Blue. this isnt just random cops, this is a close nit community of cops and family in a small community that protects each other. This has become pretty apparent during cross.
Can we get the forensic report on the arm claw marks?
they took no tissue samples.
The anchor is talking too much and interrupting his guests !!!!
You should hear how frequently the judge interrupts the defense!!!
@@ashleydaige4193 I am so glad that you brought it up! I also think she is very biased!defense lawyers should ask her respectfully "why ?"maybe not every time but for our understanding !it would make her a little bit less "sustained"
For the record - It would only take 2-3 cops (who are related to the ppl in the house) to be “in on the cover up”. Everyone else involved was just trusting in the words of their coworkers.
Proctor (the lead investigator) lied about when he picked up Karen’s car. He wrote in his report that he picked it up over an hour later than he actually did which, if true, would have made it impossible to plant her taillight at the scene. When called out on the time discrepancy because of security camera footage Proctor doubled down and said the time the camera is wrong “because of daylight savings time”. It wasn’t until the defense got the police report from the town that Karen’s car was towed from that Proctor finally backed down and called it a scrivener’s error.
Also, there just coincidentally happens to be over 15 minutes of missing security footage from the Canton Police Department where her car was stored.
12 people could easily lie, when part of a gang mentality. 2:20
I haven’t been able to watch all the trial. Can somebody tell me if Okeefe family believes Karen killed there son or do they believe it was a set up? Does anyone know that has been following this case?
They haven’t said anything either way but they are at the trial everyday so they’re seeing all the lies and corruption.
They seemed to be on the side of the sketchy townies, but there are signs that they are changing.
@@Violet_Lotus_I hope they see the light at the end of this. We're just getting started with the rest of the evidence coming out ,I don't see how anyone can think Karen guilty. This is kind of a cold thing to say. But it would benefit them if it was a cover-up. They have a lot more money than Karen. 🤟
@Doncanine Poor Karen had a lot more money before she had to spend a fortune on her defense from the evil pieces of crap who framed her. She was a successful financial analyst and professor. She will be a millionaire after she sues and wins, but I'm sure she would much rather have John and her old life back.
Jen McCabe who did the infamous “hos long to die in cold” got in OJO’s mothers ear immediately with the story about Karen hitting John. She formed a group “Peggy’s angels” where the housewives of canton took her out to dinner on a regular basis. It’s speculated that Mr O’Keefe believes Karen is innocent but I believe his wife is experiencing severe cognitive dissonance. She has already lost a child prior to John.
You would think you could at least have the facts straight if you are going to offer opinions. It you don’t have the time to do that then just don’t do the piece.
They shouldn’t be commenting on this case. Sounds like they know nothing, you are correct! Waste of tv time.
@@susankarma173there's a lot of that going around. CTV is completely full of 💩. Thanks for saving me some time Susan, I will move on 🤟
For EVERY single comment alluding to her guilt, I have (we have) documented proof that debunks it.
Instead of just making comments, the “she’s guilty” crew need to post precisely how they know she’s guilty. Because those of us that know she’s not can point to EVIDENCE, you other people just say s***.
Preachhhhhhhh
Dan Abrams, Why are you hosting a show if you are not informed? Please do your homework. There were at least 12 individuals in the house at the time. The majority were either Boston Police or State Troopers and the women in their lives. He was dropped off around 12:15.. Where is the dog? Why did the owners repave their basements and sell the home? What about his wounds? Why did Brian Albert never come out of his house, and yet he called the chief investigator, Proctor, who lied about knowing the home owners. Why did the police never seek a warrant and search the house? The owner's sister-in-law Googled after 2 am "How long for a person to die in the cold". She never mentioned she was related to the individuals in the home or that she was there at the gathering. This is why the media gets a bad name. I have also watched your commentary on the Trump case. It appears you are being paid to not know your facts. Sad!
He was passsled out hungover drunk why go.outside acting as emt
And I was like hey more cream pies for me 🍩
Guilty
There would have to be 200 people involved, for a coverup here.
By reading your comment I remember how easy it is to trick people… there are more than 200 politicians in WDC tricking people every single day…
In my opinion, Karen is guilty. Silence all the mouthpieces and look at the facts. She dunnit
Obviously you haven't seen any facts
I completely agree 💯
@@stigma3343it's actually the opposite it's because of the facts that we have come to that opinion.
Guilty of what? An accident?
@@mykingofkings1439 you haven't seen anything yet
They make videos like this because they know there is a huge mentally ill audience of karen read supporters who will believe anything in between od's to support their sponsors.
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explain Proctor and his sloppy investigation.
@@Violet_Lotus_ 300 years ago they went on a witchhunt for a Proctor, who exactly are you expecting to investigate a very odd murder? Joe Friday? Columbo? You're in the weeds if you think because he knows a few people interconnected to the case or made some guy jokes it means he's in on some great conspiracy. Making it about some greater issue like "police corruption" is ridiculous. How ironic it is in that about 30 years ago or so hot flashing PTA democratic moms started lobbying government for more restrictions when it came to drug drivers. People cut from the same cloth wanted tougher laws on crime in general and literally gave up rights(without asking the rest of us)in exchange for a police state. Now you want to let someone who obviously hit another human being with her car, killing him, tried to conceal the evidence , go. Not a whole lot of objectivity in your life, is there? You're literally following the misguided ramblings of someone who identifies as a sex goblin. You think because the media is pro Karen Read it means she's innocent. The media is pulling a con. They believe they could tell you anything and you'd believe it. The more scooby doo it is the better. BIGGER picture.