Do need to keep in mind that the Sony MDR line is made specifically for studio use, so the cable length and the cups folding flat forward are optimal for indoor and desktop working environments, not really meant for outdoor and portability.
Pretty sure every headphone Sony ever made is an MDR by nature. MDR was just a way to separate their speakers from their headphones cause it stood for micro dynamic receiver.
I bought Sony MDR MV1 yesterday here in Dubai and my experience has been freakishly good so far ! i have Hifiman Arya Stealth and Audeze LCD X. A, B comparison withy Arya is killing Arya so far! cant believe it honestly. Sony MRV1 sounds holographic to me compared to Arya which lacks depth may i dare to say, at least for my ears. i have tested on Hifiman EF400 and AudioQuest Dragon cobalt so far as these are the two amps i own. i must say i am really impressed and keep going back to the new Sony MRV1. tracks with 3D audio, jazz and instrumentals specially sound so real it freaked me out last night! do let it burn in for a few hours before you give it a try with open ears and open mind !
@@ChrisKeyman for me Sony MV1 sounded quite energetic specially upper mids. Sometimes I feel I have to tone down the volume on some tracks vs LCD X which is a bit dark in comparison. However given its weight and overall sound character I find more comfortable listening to Sonys. Arya on 2nd listening session sounded better compared to Sony to be honest. But overall Sony is not bad. And given its small form I am using it more often.
@chriskeyman I completely agree with you. Lcd x is not bad but given all 3 options I prefer Sony. Weight also is another practical factor which helps with the choice perhaps
That is exactly what these headphones are about. 3D audio/Spatial audio for music and movies and gaming. These are not the ones to sit and listen to in Stereo. The tuning is for 360 degree pinpointing.
I’m definitely going to put the MV1s on my list for future headphones. I also love that early 90s aesthetic, and I wonder if considering its jack terminates to 4 poles at the headphones, the 4.4mm Pentacon balanced connector will work. I used to own an MA-900, and the comfort and soundstage were exquisite. I still kick myself for selling it. There are a few other v-shaped open backs, like the Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250, Philips Fidelio X2HR, and Sennheiser HD660S2, but that is a fairly uncommon sound signature for an open back.
it is on my list too, I've been using Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250, Sundara w/balanced 4.4mm, and Sony MDR-7506 lately...going to order MV-1 along w. Sennheiser 490 pro. Beyerdynamic's Amiron is tempting too.
I picked up this pair earlier this week and had been using it everyday since. It is superbly comfortable and the build quality is excellent (the metal housing, the padding, and even the cable is pretty good). I am also a big fan of its minimalist packaging. Nothing superfluous and wasteful. But I find them to sound a little too bright on the high end in some situations - which is surprising because I typically prefer brightness. Sometimes I find myself lowering the volume even... Will keep an eye on it. Overall I am happy with the MDR-MV1
curious to what your reference is? How do they compare to lets say sennheisers? I previously had a z7 and 1am2 and always wanted that sound in an open back
If you want make them less bright get some AKG K240 or Beyer Dynamic DT 880, 990 pads foam which is placed in front of the drivers. They're large enough to be cut to size of the Sony pads. Solderdude at diyaudioheaven, Dutch man who measured many headphones, has article how to deal with tonality issues and how to cheaply reverse mod headphones without causing you to loose guarantee.
an easy to drive single entry, non proprietary jack open back with a bassy slant headphone is rare indeed! until recently i would only put the fidelio x2 in this category. my x2 has recently developed a loose connection in the jack and i was considering buying a new pair but ill consider these sonys now too.
had this coming together with a HD650 and must say it render the Senny to be unremarkable on first listen. The Sony is just so surprising with its tuning, impressive for an open back, more quantity than the HD650, Ananda, AD1000x, heck its more sub bass than Sony's own MDR 1Am2. the one headphone it remind me most of actually is Sony's flagship headphone: Sony MDR Z1R.
I'm thinking about getting it for some rap vocal mixing. Would it be good for that? I heard something about them sounding spacious? No clue what that was supposed to mean lol
Nice, though unsurprisingly pricey. On the closed-back side, Sony's MDR-1AM2 (bought on sale) is my go-to for a lightweight, easy-to-drive, dynamic, fun-sounding headphone; especially when traveling. Aside from the rich sound output, I particularly like that it comes with a balanced single-entry cable (albeit short) and the deceptively roomy earpads that my ears tuck into... a very clever design, IMO. The cups swivel inwardly, unlike the MV1, so you can rest them around your neck when not using them. Overall a solid, underrated value pick in the on-the-go HP arena, IMO.
Are the cushions available also in a less thicker version? I need the driver as close as possible to the ear because i have a really tight ear canal and i want to buy them.
How does Sony M1, MV1, Z1R and B&O H95 compared for all genres of music, game and movie like Tenet and potentially making music in the future of usages, which should I get and should I get 2 of them? Is Sony NW-ZX707 music player neccessary?
Hi, I am looking for my first headphone. Was looking at sivga oriole for closed back and these for open back. These cost around $300 here in India. Same as sundara. Could you suggest what could be the best ones around this price? I do like bass but also dont want something muddy. A well balanced headphones only for music listening. Was also looking at fiio ft3. Portability is not a consideration. Thank you!
I didn't know Sony were still releasing new high-ish end (at least for me) wired headphones; it's a good thing because I feel like most of their products are very competently designed. I'm not sure what you'd call the more retro/industrial(?) looking design language but I think it looks great Edit: Have you tried dt 700 pro x, or any of their closed back line? I've been looking for well built closed backs with good sound and if anyone could suggest anything that'd be great
@@shirakawamaseru My bad, you're completely right. I guess I considered these new because those models are five years old (not that long a time in the headphone space, unlike iems) and they're more consumer oriented closed backs. (Then again, "studio" doesn't really mean anything)
@@unfortunatecheese1329 there is the M1ST for the Studio, but advice from an Recording, Mixing and Mastering engineer, IEM are always superior, in every single aspect. There are so many Insanely good and excellent IEM, I never heard an Headphone that comes even close to them. Shure SE846, Sony IER-M9, FitEar TG335, Westone Mach 70/80, Vision Ears VE6/8 There is not one single headphone that comes even remotely close to them
for me, what you'll notice, its comfortable fit and light, sound is clear and wide, its not neutral got a bass boost towards U/V shaped tuning. you dont need an amp for this, my phone DAC works wonders, without DAC it needs to be maxed out but it can be done without DAC/Amps.
I wish someone compares these with hd660s2. Especially on sale it's also 400. So that makes the comparison interesting. Because it will be really difficult to beat senns on same price, isn't it?
So many reviewers don't get that these headphones are not really for sitting in a chair and listening in Stereo to some Jazz track etc. These are designed for studio use and even more so for spatial mixing of audio. I wish reviewers would listen more to Sony 360 and Atmos recording and movies/TV shows and gaming with these particular cans. They are made to be able to pinpoint sound in a 360 degree field They are also designed to be capture the sound of you actual speaker and studio speakers and recreate them in the headphones using mic recording in your ears. I want to hear how they sound watching a movie with Atmos or Dolby Digital 5.1/7.1 audio. Hearing how it can place audio behind you and in sound stage. THAT is what thee headphones might be the killer of other headphones. Same for gaming. Most reviewers only think of Stereo and music. And that would be like kneecapping a product that is not really designed for it.
You have got your problem backward. You want reviews of this headphone from the perspective of people who are not reviewing this headphone. The problem is not that the people who are reviewing it (e.g. me) don't share your use case, but that people who do share your use case aren't reviewing it. I do not care at all about how a headphone performs with Dolby Digital 5.1. You don't want my opinion on how well this headphone does it.
Is this good to use as monitoring headphone? Is any headphone that doesn't have processing can be use as monitoring headphone and just vary in sound quality from different price points? I actually prefer listening with speaker, is open back headphone sound like room speakers? Can you make any non 360⁰ headphone become one and don't have to buy these marketed as one? Is this good to watch Tenet movie? They say you can't have just one monitoring headphone, is 3 headphones setup with an open back like this plus a close back and a good listen headphone like B&O H95 good enough?
Question. If I use an amp or let’s say a Volt 1 audio interface, will it bring out the best out of the Sony MDR MV1? I love my music LOUD. Will it have any distortion like my Beyerdynamic 770 Pro X playing it on high volume? 🤔
@@SuperReview I meant no distortion like Beyerdynamic 770 Pro X. They sound good amped, what about the MDR MV1? Have you plugged it into any audio interface or amp? Just curious
the Cheap Senny HD599 has pretty good bass. I used it with a Hip Dac 3 with that bass boost function, and it could keep up with my Focal Bathys as far as slam goes. The Bathys just did it in a Tighter, more focused way. but if you want to add an open back that can get pretty low and not sound terrible. the 599 is pretty good for that. and comfortable as heck
A studio headphone with cable that is probably best for studio? Made my brain itch a little lol. It's a good headphone for it's asking price as a studio specific. Unfortunately, I have to return them as it doesn't have redeeming qualities to make it interesting enough to keep around along with my current NDH 30. I do like how we are now starting to get our money's worth with recent releases. Hopefully it will be a trend with regards to studio headphones .
@super review. May i know at under $350 USD. Which do you prefer ? IEM or headphone? If so what do you recommend for headphone and IEM? Under the budget. Base on your preference.
Because the cable is removable, you should be able to replace it with a cable with a built-in boom mic. I haven't tested these, but something like this: www.amazon.com/s?k=boom+mic+3.5mm
Do you do much gaming with your headphones or IEM'S? I'd be intriged in how these compare with the dt900 pro x, for gaming (mainly fps) i like the dt900 pro x but if there is even more bass, with no bleed and still be accurate with sound cues, it could be a fun set for that
@Super* Review I mainly play FPS games and I have noticed that certain headphones or IEM'S have a lot better imaging and depth perception than others. Another thing that I have noticed is that it doesn't always line up with what you hear in music, which I always found interesting. In single player games, immersion is always better but in FPS directional in a 3D space, is the most important. I'd love to find a set like these, that may be good with directional and still have a nice level of fun to them. The 900 pro x does this ok
Quite a bit more bass than 560S, though impact doesn't have the same definition as Focal. squig.link/headphones/?share=Super_OE_Target,Sony_MDR-MV1,Sennheiser_HD_560S
Im just glad that with this out, many Sony backed studios have a better headphones to monitor with, 7506 and V6 are legendary but are way less comfortable and frankly sound meh in modern standard, true that Sony have MDR M1st out and that barely make a dent on studio headphone market but hey this one is actually tuned differently adn for different use case from manu of studio headphones, enough that people who want bass would probably be better served here than on other headphones.
I don't do mixing personally so probably not the best to answer, but I would assume something less bassy, more neutral would give a better lens for that.
Jesus Christ, are these stupid converter cables becoming a new trend? First HD560S, now MDR-MV1. Just make a 3.5mm plug with a 6.35mm screw-on adapter, FFS.
@@SuperReview unfortunate but understandable. seems like they didn't send them out to hardly any reviewers then, based on the lack of "professional opinions"
While it's nice to know that they check out to a consumer audiophile, these headphones were designed and optimized for Sony's Virtual Mixing Environment which I've used and offers mixing engineers an opportunity to mix in virtual environments very accurately. I'm actually surprised that they're selling it separately from that usage.
@@SuperReview I should have said that I'm surprised that it works well enough as a consumer level device that they can cross-polenate their marketing strategy.
@@iocomposerYeah I'd be curious what they functionally mean by "optimizing" for "spatial sound creation." The frequency response is traditionally "normal" by most standards. squig.link/headphones/?share=Super_OE_Target,Sony_MDR-MV1
now if only they put out an openback or over-ear in the price range of the 7506, they would immediately have my attention... MV1 sounds really solid though, can't wait to see future releases
I'd like a more direct review, since it's designed for spatial qualities. Sony claims to have designed them for spatial audio mixers. Things like staging and imaging should be really important to it, a better review might have been to compare it to HD800S in its spatial prowess.
I have to use Dekoni Nuggets for the Edition XS, but it’s worth it (for me). I’ve never met a HiFiMan that fit me (granted, I’ve only had HE-500 and Edition XS).
$400 kind of pricey, but most likely will sell at lower price. And 24ohm driver's impedance means headphone amp has to have very low output impedance. I wish Sennheiser really made open backs with bass extension of the MV1 and the rest of tonality of 6** series - it would be an awesome set cans.
@@chi-towncalifornia5916 But it's not closed back, so no Sennheserish sound of 6** on the go or when you don't want disturb other people around you. And I really dislike, actually I hate it with passion, synthetic leather ear pads. All my attempts to change ear pads also changed the tonality, so we are kind of stuck in dog chasing it's own tail situation.
Looks like Sony finally used all the good stuff from their flagship headphone lines Studio functionality from their legacy 7506, V6 line Headband and light weight materials from the Z7 series First open back since the SA series But still packs the low-end rumble Sony's known for.
Interestingly enough you can see the early version of the MDR MV1 in the "Sony Digital Press Event at CES 2021: Sony Transforms Content Creation And Delivery" video.
Extremely light weight and comfortable. I love these for gaming and streaming. Not my go to for critical music listening, but it's fantastic for hours on end. I tried the Hifiman Edition XS, but they were painful after 30 minutes. Went up to the Hifiman Arya Organic, which sounded amazing, but I couldn't justify the price for just gaming and discord chatting. I use monitor speakers for nearly all of my music listening at my desk. If I was looking for a TOTL headphone I would have stuck with the Arya Organic, but for the same price I picked up the MV1 for at my desk at home and used Sony IER-M9 for more critical listening. The imaging and clarity on the M9 is well worth the more intimate stage.
I love the design but I have grow weary of V shaped sounds. Unless V shaped in IEM's and Headphones at different. Maybe I have to look at the chart for the XM3 again because I was totally okay with that bloated bass presentation.
Based on the CoolerMaster MH752 and the Takstar Pro82 the swivel might be a weak point but depending on the plastic they use it should be fine. The plastic on the MH752 are soft so after years of swiveling they'll crumble.
@@Qimchiy been using it for roughly 3 years ( bought it in 2ndhand ) and it still holds strong . i haven't seen anyone online with reporting issues with these Sony headphones since 2014 when it was released . not too sure about the "swivel point" that you mentioned , but i can say that Sony headphones are built decently and mine still swivels fine
I'm not sure if the Hi-Fi Man plays in the league of "studio monitors" in the comparison segment. It seems the Sony MV1 belongs to a class that is not meant to "impress" audiophiles, but rather to be used in professional settings.
(1) I'm reviewing these from my perspective, not the perspective of someone I'm not. (2) On what basis do you make the assumption that the Hifiman is less suitable to "professional settings"?
I'm not sure this makes sense. These headphones are praised for their soundstage and were made for spatial audio but he's saying that these are average in those aspects. Ummm, what?
That is NOT a portable listening experience headphone, it is a studio mixing headphone, hence the long-ass cable it has, you should have gone for a wireless bluetooth stuff mate. sorry but stupid comments that do not add up to a profesional review killed the whole review for me, cheers mate.
MDR-Z7M2's are the best made most comfortable Headphones I've owned if they offer an open version that are built as well then im in . These just look cheap but overpriced
Yo dude how does this do in PUBG bro dude please compare against at least 5 other models including audiotechnica m50x i heard they are audiophile reference quality and maybe try valorant too thanks so much bruv
Surprised it didn't come with a 4.4 pentaconn cable as well. Sony is notorious for offering that cable with almost all their high end headphones. But then again, these are "studio grade" and not "consumer headphones" so I can understand why they didn't. Most studios dont even have a way to plug in a 4.4 pentaconn cable. NONE of Sony's headphones are V shaped in terms of studio/high end. Not one. The issue is you are used to shit headphone brands that are touted as being "the best" when they aren't. I currently run the Z7M2's with beyerdynamic velour pads and a new twisted cable because my old one broke and might as well waste $200 on a cable. Before and after the mods the headphones were never V shaped. YES with velour pads the top end is sharper because "pads effect sound to your ears" even if people don't admit it. Its even measurable. But definitely not V shaped. YOUR ISSUE is that you are used to headphones with insane roll off on the low end. Because most "audiophile" headphones are just designed for people who don't like "natural bass" so when you hear natural bass, you assume "bloated" bass and cry "V shape" when its not. MORE THAN LIKELY, these headphones are what bass SHOULD sound like. I bought the HD660s2's from Sennheiser and holy shit are they bad. YES, they have more bass than typical Sennheiser open back headphones. the biggest killer of bass for headphones is open back. so its usually common to have bad bass and extreme roll off, as my point above. the 660s2's happen to have bass, but due to the driver and overall design, they wont go as loud as my sony Z7M2's.... like not even close. the Sennheisers will begin to distort mechanically due to the bass being bloated and the open back design/driver design unable to handle it. the 660s2's are great for someone who likes quiet or moderate listening levels but for anyone that likes to crank, dogshit. which brings me to these sony's, i dont own them. so I don't know. but being open back, they will most likely suffer. EXCEPT sony's product page specifically states it can handle 1500mw which means 1.5w of power. that's kinda insane loudness wise. I haven't measured the output of my FiiO K9 PRO ESS dac/amp with gain setting 2, but they get pretty loud. and as I said, sennheisers can't handle it, but my sony's can. and it seem like these sony's, might handle it too. so im curious if they can actually handle 1.5w of power as claimed.
Wow, I thought the Sony Defense Force was just a video game nerd thing. V-shape is not an insult, it's just got more bass and treble emphasis than what's commonly described as neutral. If you think more-bass-and-treble-than-what's-commonly-described-as-neutral is in fact neutral, congrats, you have a definition that works for one person. And if you're listening at volume levels that distort a 660S, the Fletcher-Munson theory would suggest you're hearing even more bass and treble than a person who's not destroying their hearing. You like bass and treble, no shame in that.
@@SuperReview its not being defensive its factual. Every single REAL headphone review showing frequency response proves what i said is factually true. The v shape you refer to doesnt exist in most of sonys audiophile grade headphones. There is a Korean review of these new MV1s, and they arent v shape at all. Proof positive. The bass is flat and doesnt roll off as fast as your shitty "non v" headphones. Which you mistake for V shaped when really its flatter than the crap you prefer. Not fault youre ignorant and shouldnt be reviewing headphones. You are just used to shit headphones where there is so much bass roll off that the bass is virtually non existent. We get it, you have old man ears. Doesnt make you right for preferring less bass than true neutral
Do need to keep in mind that the Sony MDR line is made specifically for studio use, so the cable length and the cups folding flat forward are optimal for indoor and desktop working environments, not really meant for outdoor and portability.
Sure, doesn't change what I want.
@@SuperReview Man SONY back to doing stuff right. Hope they release a worthy successor for Legendary MDR-7520 soon.
Pretty sure every headphone Sony ever made is an MDR by nature. MDR was just a way to separate their speakers from their headphones cause it stood for micro dynamic receiver.
I dont think MDR-Z1R is for studio? I am not really sure but I think that headphone is made towards audio enjoyment
Well, why dont you buy the shit uou want then 😂😂😂@@SuperReview
I bought Sony MDR MV1 yesterday here in Dubai and my experience has been freakishly good so far ! i have Hifiman Arya Stealth and Audeze LCD X. A, B comparison withy Arya is killing Arya so far! cant believe it honestly. Sony MRV1 sounds holographic to me compared to Arya which lacks depth may i dare to say, at least for my ears. i have tested on Hifiman EF400 and AudioQuest Dragon cobalt so far as these are the two amps i own. i must say i am really impressed and keep going back to the new Sony MRV1. tracks with 3D audio, jazz and instrumentals specially sound so real it freaked me out last night! do let it burn in for a few hours before you give it a try with open ears and open mind !
Hi, how do they compare with the lcd-x ?
I had lcd-X 2021 , i loved the sound but I sent them back because of the weight. I have neck problems
@@ChrisKeyman for me Sony MV1 sounded quite energetic specially upper mids. Sometimes I feel I have to tone down the volume on some tracks vs LCD X which is a bit dark in comparison. However given its weight and overall sound character I find more comfortable listening to Sonys. Arya on 2nd listening session sounded better compared to Sony to be honest. But overall Sony is not bad. And given its small form I am using it more often.
@khurramhanif74 how compares the sub bass region between them?
@chriskeyman I completely agree with you. Lcd x is not bad but given all 3 options I prefer Sony. Weight also is another practical factor which helps with the choice perhaps
That is exactly what these headphones are about. 3D audio/Spatial audio for music and movies and gaming. These are not the ones to sit and listen to in Stereo. The tuning is for 360 degree pinpointing.
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Reviews about to slow down even more, doing a remodel, gotta live somewhere else without a live stream studio.
How about some short takes where you step down from a ladder and pull some IEMs from your dusty overalls? 🙂
@@SuperReview for some reason this video isn't in your channel video lists?
@@MuhammadKharismawan RUclips moved everything under the Live tab: www.youtube.com/@SuperReview/streams
Ugh, I may have to pick up a pair of these now. Thanks, Mark 🙃 Great stuff, as always!
Was gonna say aw shucks it's not on Amazon, but just checked again... Sorry Scott!
@@SuperReview 😂😂😂
I’m definitely going to put the MV1s on my list for future headphones. I also love that early 90s aesthetic, and I wonder if considering its jack terminates to 4 poles at the headphones, the 4.4mm Pentacon balanced connector will work. I used to own an MA-900, and the comfort and soundstage were exquisite. I still kick myself for selling it. There are a few other v-shaped open backs, like the Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250, Philips Fidelio X2HR, and Sennheiser HD660S2, but that is a fairly uncommon sound signature for an open back.
it is on my list too, I've been using Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250, Sundara w/balanced 4.4mm, and Sony MDR-7506 lately...going to order MV-1 along w. Sennheiser 490 pro. Beyerdynamic's Amiron is tempting too.
I picked up this pair earlier this week and had been using it everyday since. It is superbly comfortable and the build quality is excellent (the metal housing, the padding, and even the cable is pretty good). I am also a big fan of its minimalist packaging. Nothing superfluous and wasteful. But I find them to sound a little too bright on the high end in some situations - which is surprising because I typically prefer brightness. Sometimes I find myself lowering the volume even... Will keep an eye on it. Overall I am happy with the MDR-MV1
curious to what your reference is? How do they compare to lets say sennheisers? I previously had a z7 and 1am2 and always wanted that sound in an open back
If you want make them less bright get some AKG K240 or Beyer Dynamic DT 880, 990 pads foam which is placed in front of the drivers. They're large enough to be cut to size of the Sony pads. Solderdude at diyaudioheaven, Dutch man who measured many headphones, has article how to deal with tonality issues and how to cheaply reverse mod headphones without causing you to loose guarantee.
How about the sub and low region? Are they sufficiently deep and full down there?
yes they are a little bright
in the high ends
but just a tad ;)
an easy to drive single entry, non proprietary jack open back with a bassy slant headphone is rare indeed! until recently i would only put the fidelio x2 in this category. my x2 has recently developed a loose connection in the jack and i was considering buying a new pair but ill consider these sonys now too.
The fidelio is really bad which is why they are so cheap. Bloated and muddy bass and piercing highs which are really painful.
Thank you for an awesome review. MV1 here I come😊
They had these headphones for 2 YEARS. I didn't think it'd come out.
had this coming together with a HD650 and must say it render the Senny to be unremarkable on first listen. The Sony is just so surprising with its tuning, impressive for an open back, more quantity than the HD650, Ananda, AD1000x, heck its more sub bass than Sony's own MDR 1Am2.
the one headphone it remind me most of actually is Sony's flagship headphone: Sony MDR Z1R.
I'm thinking about getting it for some rap vocal mixing. Would it be good for that? I heard something about them sounding spacious? No clue what that was supposed to mean lol
These had high expectations. I'm glad they did not disappoint!
Now available at your local headphone library.
Ponta Box is great! Thanks for mentioning them. I love finding new music through reviews.
Nice, though unsurprisingly pricey. On the closed-back side, Sony's MDR-1AM2 (bought on sale) is my go-to for a lightweight, easy-to-drive, dynamic, fun-sounding headphone; especially when traveling. Aside from the rich sound output, I particularly like that it comes with a balanced single-entry cable (albeit short) and the deceptively roomy earpads that my ears tuck into... a very clever design, IMO. The cups swivel inwardly, unlike the MV1, so you can rest them around your neck when not using them. Overall a solid, underrated value pick in the on-the-go HP arena, IMO.
Wish it was still available
Indeed...I also have ones and they are very good. Love the base on them...the hugs are also very good.
The balanced cable on 1AM2 should fit the MV1 like a glove.
3:52 it’s 4 pole because it supports balanced connection, ie 4pin XLR or 4.4mm
When you say micro and macro contrasts, are you talking about dynamics or detail retrieval?
Dynamics no, detail maybe.
Are the cushions available also in a less thicker version? I need the driver as close as possible to the ear because i have a really tight ear canal and i want to buy them.
How does Sony M1, MV1, Z1R and B&O H95 compared for all genres of music, game and movie like Tenet and potentially making music in the future of usages, which should I get and should I get 2 of them? Is Sony NW-ZX707 music player neccessary?
Hi, I am looking for my first headphone. Was looking at sivga oriole for closed back and these for open back. These cost around $300 here in India. Same as sundara. Could you suggest what could be the best ones around this price? I do like bass but also dont want something muddy. A well balanced headphones only for music listening. Was also looking at fiio ft3. Portability is not a consideration. Thank you!
I didn't know Sony were still releasing new high-ish end (at least for me) wired headphones; it's a good thing because I feel like most of their products are very competently designed. I'm not sure what you'd call the more retro/industrial(?) looking design language but I think it looks great
Edit: Have you tried dt 700 pro x, or any of their closed back line? I've been looking for well built closed backs with good sound and if anyone could suggest anything that'd be great
You mean beside the MDR-1AM2, MDR-Z7M2 and the MDR-Z1R?
@@shirakawamaseru My bad, you're completely right. I guess I considered these new because those models are five years old (not that long a time in the headphone space, unlike iems) and they're more consumer oriented closed backs. (Then again, "studio" doesn't really mean anything)
@@unfortunatecheese1329 there is the M1ST for the Studio, but advice from an Recording, Mixing and Mastering engineer, IEM are always superior, in every single aspect.
There are so many Insanely good and excellent IEM, I never heard an Headphone that comes even close to them.
Shure SE846, Sony IER-M9, FitEar TG335, Westone Mach 70/80, Vision Ears VE6/8
There is not one single headphone that comes even remotely close to them
Austrian Audio Hi-X60
Have you ever tried the Neumann NDH-30? They are fantastic and a great comparison point to these here.
Nope.
@@SuperReview can recommend 😁👋
for me, what you'll notice, its comfortable fit and light, sound is clear and wide, its not neutral got a bass boost towards U/V shaped tuning. you dont need an amp for this, my phone DAC works wonders, without DAC it needs to be maxed out but it can be done without DAC/Amps.
New glasses look great
24:00 how often do you replace your pads?
I replaced these about a year ago.
Brightness and Fullness on the lows? V shaped sound signature? JUST WHAT I NEEDED. I'll surely buy them.
I wish someone compares these with hd660s2. Especially on sale it's also 400. So that makes the comparison interesting. Because it will be really difficult to beat senns on same price, isn't it?
Thanks for the review, what a DAC it is recommended for mobile connection phone? Fiio btr7 or fiio will be fine ka17?Thank you!
For Bluetooth DAC, my favorite I've used is Qudelix 5K.
Nice . I like these and possibly my next purchase
What about sound bleeding? From 1 to 10, ten being the most.
Most bleed to least: Edition XS > HD 600 > MV1 > DT 900 Pro X
Estimate based on isolation, I didn't test bleed much.
@@SuperReview Where would you rank the Clear in that?
I don't have that headphone around to compare.
Can you listen to these for streaming music not just mixing
So many reviewers don't get that these headphones are not really for sitting in a chair and listening in Stereo to some Jazz track etc. These are designed for studio use and even more so for spatial mixing of audio.
I wish reviewers would listen more to Sony 360 and Atmos recording and movies/TV shows and gaming with these particular cans. They are made to be able to pinpoint sound in a 360 degree field
They are also designed to be capture the sound of you actual speaker and studio speakers and recreate them in the headphones using mic recording in your ears.
I want to hear how they sound watching a movie with Atmos or Dolby Digital 5.1/7.1 audio. Hearing how it can place audio behind you and in sound stage. THAT is what thee headphones might be the killer of other headphones.
Same for gaming.
Most reviewers only think of Stereo and music. And that would be like kneecapping a product that is not really designed for it.
You have got your problem backward.
You want reviews of this headphone from the perspective of people who are not reviewing this headphone. The problem is not that the people who are reviewing it (e.g. me) don't share your use case, but that people who do share your use case aren't reviewing it.
I do not care at all about how a headphone performs with Dolby Digital 5.1. You don't want my opinion on how well this headphone does it.
is it good for gaming tho? getting them superb surround to hear fotsteps?
Is this good to use as monitoring headphone? Is any headphone that doesn't have processing can be use as monitoring headphone and just vary in sound quality from different price points? I actually prefer listening with speaker, is open back headphone sound like room speakers? Can you make any non 360⁰ headphone become one and don't have to buy these marketed as one? Is this good to watch Tenet movie? They say you can't have just one monitoring headphone, is 3 headphones setup with an open back like this plus a close back and a good listen headphone like B&O H95 good enough?
And I bought it after watching this video😂 To pair with my Sundara.
Bass hit just right and after some burn in, it sounded better
So they're overall better than Sundara?
For bass in an open back, try the ETA mini S. It is extraordinary.
Question. If I use an amp or let’s say a Volt 1 audio interface, will it bring out the best out of the Sony MDR MV1? I love my music LOUD. Will it have any distortion like my Beyerdynamic 770 Pro X playing it on high volume? 🤔
Homie if you are listening so loud your DT 770s are distorting, you are destroying your hearing.
@@SuperReview I meant no distortion like Beyerdynamic 770 Pro X. They sound good amped, what about the MDR MV1? Have you plugged it into any audio interface or amp? Just curious
Is this an upgrade to my Philips Fidelio X2H2 or I shouldn't worry much? thank you
As always, I caution against the word "upgrade" but I do like these better in the treble.
the Cheap Senny HD599 has pretty good bass. I used it with a Hip Dac 3 with that bass boost function, and it could keep up with my Focal Bathys as far as slam goes. The Bathys just did it in a Tighter, more focused way. but if you want to add an open back that can get pretty low and not sound terrible. the 599 is pretty good for that. and comfortable as heck
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A studio headphone with cable that is probably best for studio? Made my brain itch a little lol. It's a good headphone for it's asking price as a studio specific. Unfortunately, I have to return them as it doesn't have redeeming qualities to make it interesting enough to keep around along with my current NDH 30. I do like how we are now starting to get our money's worth with recent releases. Hopefully it will be a trend with regards to studio headphones .
How do they compare with ndh 30?
Thank you
@super review. May i know at under $350 USD. Which do you prefer ? IEM or headphone?
If so what do you recommend for headphone and IEM? Under the budget. Base on your preference.
I listen to IEMs more than headphones.
Is the headband same as mdr7506 couse one thing I hate about that model is they are build cheap is the quality better ?
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Yes I watched but what about the material on the headband is is the same quality ore it is better more durable
Will I require an amp? it has 24 ohm and 100db sensitivity so I shouldnt need one right?
This will run off of almost anything.
Perhaps the Philips Fidelio X2HR can rival the bass of the MV1.
Looks good. I hope Sony will release a version with a boom mic.
Because the cable is removable, you should be able to replace it with a cable with a built-in boom mic. I haven't tested these, but something like this: www.amazon.com/s?k=boom+mic+3.5mm
Do you do much gaming with your headphones or IEM'S? I'd be intriged in how these compare with the dt900 pro x, for gaming (mainly fps) i like the dt900 pro x but if there is even more bass, with no bleed and still be accurate with sound cues, it could be a fun set for that
No not really. Also, when you say "gaming" do you have something specific in mind?
@Super* Review I mainly play FPS games and I have noticed that certain headphones or IEM'S have a lot better imaging and depth perception than others. Another thing that I have noticed is that it doesn't always line up with what you hear in music, which I always found interesting. In single player games, immersion is always better but in FPS directional in a 3D space, is the most important. I'd love to find a set like these, that may be good with directional and still have a nice level of fun to them. The 900 pro x does this ok
@@scotty_teee4226 Of this bunch, the Edition XS has the most exaggerated imaging / positioning.
@@SuperReview thank you, appreciate the feedback. I've always liked your reviews and your views
Does the bass come close to focal clear /mg bass? cheers (ps: is it more then 560s bass?)
Quite a bit more bass than 560S, though impact doesn't have the same definition as Focal. squig.link/headphones/?share=Super_OE_Target,Sony_MDR-MV1,Sennheiser_HD_560S
@@SuperReview Thanks alot, you have been really helpful.
Im just glad that with this out, many Sony backed studios have a better headphones to monitor with, 7506 and V6 are legendary but are way less comfortable and frankly sound meh in modern standard, true that Sony have MDR M1st out and that barely make a dent on studio headphone market but hey this one is actually tuned differently adn for different use case from manu of studio headphones, enough that people who want bass would probably be better served here than on other headphones.
I bought these for mix mastering (producing) would it be good for those purposes?
I don't do mixing personally so probably not the best to answer, but I would assume something less bassy, more neutral would give a better lens for that.
@@SuperReview thanks!
these are made for that purpose. being open-back the bass extension is a must, not enhanced but defined. these will defo do the job for producing.
26:47 same 7 notches here as well. Will pay attention to your comfort notes moving forward. 😅
Can it be used with 3rd party cables without any problems? And to the ones who might know: Will this sound much better than Philips X2?
Yeah, I'm using it with a 3rd party cable in this video.
yup all work well
Jesus Christ, are these stupid converter cables becoming a new trend? First HD560S, now MDR-MV1. Just make a 3.5mm plug with a 6.35mm screw-on adapter, FFS.
Think they've been around too long to be considered a trend.
6.3 is just way more sturdy than 3.5 dude, especially when the gears that these are meant to be plugged in also output at 6.3mm.
Which headphone has the most bass, the Sony MDR-MV1 or the Beyerdynamic DT 900 Pro X ?
Did you watch the video?
By the way, will you be reviewing fiio's ft3 "hubcap" headphones? I'm curious but also way too poor to blind buy them 😭
Don't think so, they were gonna send it out but think they forgot about it and things have moved on.
@@SuperReview unfortunate but understandable. seems like they didn't send them out to hardly any reviewers then, based on the lack of "professional opinions"
While it's nice to know that they check out to a consumer audiophile, these headphones were designed and optimized for Sony's Virtual Mixing Environment which I've used and offers mixing engineers an opportunity to mix in virtual environments very accurately. I'm actually surprised that they're selling it separately from that usage.
Why surprised? That sounds like a very narrow market.
@@SuperReview I should have said that I'm surprised that it works well enough as a consumer level device that they can cross-polenate their marketing strategy.
@@iocomposerYeah I'd be curious what they functionally mean by "optimizing" for "spatial sound creation." The frequency response is traditionally "normal" by most standards. squig.link/headphones/?share=Super_OE_Target,Sony_MDR-MV1
now if only they put out an openback or over-ear in the price range of the 7506, they would immediately have my attention...
MV1 sounds really solid though, can't wait to see future releases
Sure would be nice!
I'd like a more direct review, since it's designed for spatial qualities. Sony claims to have designed them for spatial audio mixers. Things like staging and imaging should be really important to it, a better review might have been to compare it to HD800S in its spatial prowess.
I have to use Dekoni Nuggets for the Edition XS, but it’s worth it (for me). I’ve never met a HiFiMan that fit me (granted, I’ve only had HE-500 and Edition XS).
Nice, the nuggets help fill in the gap of the too-large headband?
$400 kind of pricey, but most likely will sell at lower price. And 24ohm driver's impedance means headphone amp has to have very low output impedance. I wish Sennheiser really made open backs with bass extension of the MV1 and the rest of tonality of 6** series - it would be an awesome set cans.
Well Sennheiser did come out with the HD660-S2, which has very deep extending bass performance, but it’s extremely overpriced at USD 600 dollars.
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But it's not closed back, so no Sennheserish sound of 6** on the go or when you don't want disturb other people around you. And I really dislike, actually I hate it with passion, synthetic leather ear pads. All my attempts to change ear pads also changed the tonality, so we are kind of stuck in dog chasing it's own tail situation.
Thank you for the tip regarding Ponta Box 😊👌
Looks like Sony finally used all the good stuff from their flagship headphone lines
Studio functionality from their legacy 7506, V6 line
Headband and light weight materials from the Z7 series
First open back since the SA series
But still packs the low-end rumble Sony's known for.
Interestingly enough you can see the early version of the MDR MV1 in the "Sony Digital Press Event at CES 2021: Sony Transforms Content Creation And Delivery" video.
The last Sony open back line isn't the SA, it's the MA series, from 40 to 250 usd, MA100 to MA900.
Extremely light weight and comfortable. I love these for gaming and streaming. Not my go to for critical music listening, but it's fantastic for hours on end.
I tried the Hifiman Edition XS, but they were painful after 30 minutes. Went up to the Hifiman Arya Organic, which sounded amazing, but I couldn't justify the price for just gaming and discord chatting. I use monitor speakers for nearly all of my music listening at my desk.
If I was looking for a TOTL headphone I would have stuck with the Arya Organic, but for the same price I picked up the MV1 for at my desk at home and used Sony IER-M9 for more critical listening. The imaging and clarity on the M9 is well worth the more intimate stage.
I love the design but I have grow weary of V shaped sounds. Unless V shaped in IEM's and Headphones at different. Maybe I have to look at the chart for the XM3 again because I was totally okay with that bloated bass presentation.
The hunt continues.
Based on the CoolerMaster MH752 and the Takstar Pro82 the swivel might be a weak point but depending on the plastic they use it should be fine. The plastic on the MH752 are soft so after years of swiveling they'll crumble.
it's all copied from Sony MDR-1A and that headphones does survive for quite a long time, at least with my experience
@@hyp3rswarehouse889 is the swivel point visible and how many years have you used it? I'm thinking of getting the MV1 myself
@@Qimchiy been using it for roughly 3 years ( bought it in 2ndhand ) and it still holds strong . i haven't seen anyone online with reporting issues with these Sony headphones since 2014 when it was released .
not too sure about the "swivel point" that you mentioned , but i can say that Sony headphones are built decently and mine still swivels fine
@@hyp3rswarehouse889 Sounds good. Thanks a lot dude
Can you run it balanced?
Not sure, it's single-sided entry but the 3.5mm cable is 4-pole, so maybe. They're very easy to drive, no benefit from balanced TBH.
Great headphones designed for in studio mixing/ production use if they’re as good as the MDR-7509HD and the MDR-7520 for mixing I’ll be taking a pair
I'm not sure if the Hi-Fi Man plays in the league of "studio monitors" in the comparison segment. It seems the Sony MV1 belongs to a class that is not meant to "impress" audiophiles, but rather to be used in professional settings.
(1) I'm reviewing these from my perspective, not the perspective of someone I'm not. (2) On what basis do you make the assumption that the Hifiman is less suitable to "professional settings"?
Please make the MDR-M1
Do you smoke mad weed? Just curious
Nah.
Do you think Sony is going to release a closed back version in the near future?
Sony MDR-M1ST is probably the closed-back version of this, but I haven't heard it and don't know what the sound signature is.
It graphs as a brighter headphone than even the Beyers, but you say otherwise...
I thought the way they fold was cool until you mentioned they fold the wrong way!! What a design blunder!
Unfortunately a common blunder.
I'm not sure this makes sense. These headphones are praised for their soundstage and were made for spatial audio but he's saying that these are average in those aspects. Ummm, what?
Feels doubtful bcause this is for studio monitoring, dont know for music listening
That is NOT a portable listening experience headphone, it is a studio mixing headphone, hence the long-ass cable it has, you should have gone for a wireless bluetooth stuff mate. sorry but stupid comments that do not add up to a profesional review killed the whole review for me, cheers mate.
Negated the whole review with marketing, good job.
Cable is too long?? Like in the bedroom...better looking at it- then looking for it ; )
MDR-Z7M2's are the best made most comfortable Headphones I've owned if they offer an open version that are built as well then im in .
These just look cheap but overpriced
Z7M2 definitely feels premium in a way this doesn't. But does weigh almost twice as much, so there are tradeoffs.
Love how they look, but I use wireless headphones already 15 years and it is difficult to go back.
This will be going on sale after a bit...
£325 now, that sale still coming?
Those look like my Warby Parkers
I think it's the Felix.
Never buying Sony heapdphones again. In my MDR-1A the headphone jack died after a few months and is very hard to repair.
These have a replaceable cable.
@@SuperReview So did MDR-1A but the jack died and it is not easy to replace the jack (port)
Yo dude how does this do in PUBG bro dude please compare against at least 5 other models including audiotechnica m50x i heard they are audiophile reference quality and maybe try valorant too thanks so much bruv
My baseline kill/death ratio is set iPhone speakers, in PUBG it's 1.2:1. With M50x, no change, still 1.2:1. With MV1, goes up to 2:1.
@@SuperReview😅
Surprised it didn't come with a 4.4 pentaconn cable as well. Sony is notorious for offering that cable with almost all their high end headphones. But then again, these are "studio grade" and not "consumer headphones" so I can understand why they didn't. Most studios dont even have a way to plug in a 4.4 pentaconn cable.
NONE of Sony's headphones are V shaped in terms of studio/high end. Not one. The issue is you are used to shit headphone brands that are touted as being "the best" when they aren't. I currently run the Z7M2's with beyerdynamic velour pads and a new twisted cable because my old one broke and might as well waste $200 on a cable. Before and after the mods the headphones were never V shaped. YES with velour pads the top end is sharper because "pads effect sound to your ears" even if people don't admit it. Its even measurable. But definitely not V shaped.
YOUR ISSUE is that you are used to headphones with insane roll off on the low end. Because most "audiophile" headphones are just designed for people who don't like "natural bass" so when you hear natural bass, you assume "bloated" bass and cry "V shape" when its not. MORE THAN LIKELY, these headphones are what bass SHOULD sound like.
I bought the HD660s2's from Sennheiser and holy shit are they bad. YES, they have more bass than typical Sennheiser open back headphones. the biggest killer of bass for headphones is open back. so its usually common to have bad bass and extreme roll off, as my point above. the 660s2's happen to have bass, but due to the driver and overall design, they wont go as loud as my sony Z7M2's.... like not even close. the Sennheisers will begin to distort mechanically due to the bass being bloated and the open back design/driver design unable to handle it. the 660s2's are great for someone who likes quiet or moderate listening levels but for anyone that likes to crank, dogshit.
which brings me to these sony's, i dont own them. so I don't know. but being open back, they will most likely suffer. EXCEPT sony's product page specifically states it can handle 1500mw which means 1.5w of power. that's kinda insane loudness wise. I haven't measured the output of my FiiO K9 PRO ESS dac/amp with gain setting 2, but they get pretty loud. and as I said, sennheisers can't handle it, but my sony's can. and it seem like these sony's, might handle it too. so im curious if they can actually handle 1.5w of power as claimed.
Wow, I thought the Sony Defense Force was just a video game nerd thing. V-shape is not an insult, it's just got more bass and treble emphasis than what's commonly described as neutral. If you think more-bass-and-treble-than-what's-commonly-described-as-neutral is in fact neutral, congrats, you have a definition that works for one person. And if you're listening at volume levels that distort a 660S, the Fletcher-Munson theory would suggest you're hearing even more bass and treble than a person who's not destroying their hearing. You like bass and treble, no shame in that.
@@SuperReview its not being defensive its factual. Every single REAL headphone review showing frequency response proves what i said is factually true. The v shape you refer to doesnt exist in most of sonys audiophile grade headphones. There is a Korean review of these new MV1s, and they arent v shape at all. Proof positive. The bass is flat and doesnt roll off as fast as your shitty "non v" headphones. Which you mistake for V shaped when really its flatter than the crap you prefer. Not fault youre ignorant and shouldnt be reviewing headphones. You are just used to shit headphones where there is so much bass roll off that the bass is virtually non existent. We get it, you have old man ears. Doesnt make you right for preferring less bass than true neutral
Why are you so sad dude?
Someone spilled your milk?😂
I don't think there's place for people like yourself in this community.
Refrain from commenting.
@@SuperReview I think the "insult" part is V shaped is usually used to describe awful Blue Tooth Headphones haha.
Wow the box it’s awful
All boxes end up in the trash.
@@SuperReview mine not 😅
But I understand your point of view
Its about the same as the box the £5000 Susvara comes in so who cares really
$300 though -
overpriced
Don’t be mean
Pads r v low quality 😂
bad review. A lot of non-sens talking
Oh.