I've had a 2" adf lift + sub frame drop on my 01 outback for a few years now. The whole kit is solid and I did the install myself in the back yard. That extra clearance made a big difference in southern California terrain. I've surprised quite a few people with where that car can go.
I understand the rear. It’s a 2” rear subframe spacer with a 4” rear strut top spacer. For the front, they must have spaced the engine and transmission and front subframe down too. Crazy.
My next tire is a 37” raptor KO2 or KO3 when it comes out. Light weight and not overly stiff. MTs are awesome off road but vibrate under 10mph, heavy and give harshness on bumps, and are loud above 70mph. Look amazing though which is 9/10th what Jeep parts need.
Hey Jon... does that 5" lifted Subi have enough power with a CVT and those big meats? Those vehicles are weak with regular equipment let alone that lift and tire combo. Scary combo to me. Cody didn't seem none-to friendly! What's up with people?
Wilderness has 2.4L Turbo motor, 260HP. It turns them just fine, we have been running the same size tire for well over a year without issue. Cody (my brother) Isnt as personable as i am, his strengths are elsewhere haha
The motor and cvt in the outback wilderness model is similar to the subaru ascent, their larger 3 row suv. Not perfect, but stronger than regular outback cvt
Not about power it’s about torque and gearing. Remains to be seen but CVT transmissions haven’t historically done well with high amounts of sustained engine torque.
@@andersondesign-fab4405it’s not making that power nor it’s torque rating at the converter stall speed. It would grenade the CVT. Actually Jon has a video comparing the turbo and non turbo CVTs and the non turbo climbed better. Subaru has to limit the torque multiplication on the converter for the turbo to protect it while the NA engine needs the help.
@@KTMcaptain makes sense. I was skeptical about the numbers and power too until driving the 23 outback wilderness. There’s noticeable turbo lag therefore it doesn’t hinder the slow and controlled climbing *or kick in. Overall, it’s surprisingly quick with plenty of oomph. Paddle shifting is a blast too… almost morphs into a five speed. The trade off between turbo and occasionally slow climbing with the NA is a non factor… turbo ftw imho.
I am very curious about the mile star at pro. I think I will put those on next. Now that we live in North Idaho I need more of a snow tire. Love that they are made in usa
Hey John, I followed that Subaru and I believe it was a RAV4 into the Expo event seems to me they said ADF on big stickers on the back. It was quite intriguing build. I didn’t catch up with it within the expo though to find out more.
Yeah cause you're the only person in the world who lifted yours until now? So with that logic, there are only 2 people in the world who have...you, and this guy. Lol
@@mikemosley77 I’ve had 3.5 on my wilderness for 2+ years. Considering I messaged them and spoke to him personally about building a control arm for me with a drop to incorporate my lift and 31s, yeah, I’ve personally spoke with numerous companies because unless I start fabricating stuff myself, it’s much more difficult to modify 2019+ Forrester, and/or find parts while keeping everything in line, with such massive modifications. Thanks though This guy that knows nothing.
@@Subie_OffXroad The Suburu Outback has been around since 1995. Any person without some significant mental illness would know that there have been many thousands of people who have made their own custom lift kits before you did. It's just common sense.
@@mikemosley77 you don’t listen. Outback and foresters are not the same. And a 96 isn’t even on the same chassis as a newer one. You aren’t smart nor do you know anything. Custom lift kits on 20 year old cars. Again, your ignorance blinds you. you ignore the fact that I spoke with Patrick personally to ask him to create me arms for a 3 1/2 inch lift to remove the camber issues. Find me a 2019+ Forrester with anything higher than 3 inches on it… I’ll wait. Bc you won’t. Thanks for trying.
@@mikemosley77 it’s just literally what I asked for, and then a year later they have a complete fabricated build of a new outback from my pioneer prototype car essentially because I did it FIRST in my backyard/garage, unprofessional. Eat dick
I've had a 2" adf lift + sub frame drop on my 01 outback for a few years now. The whole kit is solid and I did the install myself in the back yard. That extra clearance made a big difference in southern California terrain. I've surprised quite a few people with where that car can go.
I understand the rear. It’s a 2” rear subframe spacer with a 4” rear strut top spacer. For the front, they must have spaced the engine and transmission and front subframe down too. Crazy.
My next tire is a 37” raptor KO2 or KO3 when it comes out. Light weight and not overly stiff. MTs are awesome off road but vibrate under 10mph, heavy and give harshness on bumps, and are loud above 70mph. Look amazing though which is 9/10th what Jeep parts need.
Hey Jon... does that 5" lifted Subi have enough power with a CVT and those big meats? Those vehicles are weak with regular equipment let alone that lift and tire combo. Scary combo to me. Cody didn't seem none-to friendly! What's up with people?
Wilderness has 2.4L Turbo motor, 260HP. It turns them just fine, we have been running the same size tire for well over a year without issue. Cody (my brother) Isnt as personable as i am, his strengths are elsewhere haha
The motor and cvt in the outback wilderness model is similar to the subaru ascent, their larger 3 row suv. Not perfect, but stronger than regular outback cvt
Not about power it’s about torque and gearing. Remains to be seen but CVT transmissions haven’t historically done well with high amounts of sustained engine torque.
@@andersondesign-fab4405it’s not making that power nor it’s torque rating at the converter stall speed. It would grenade the CVT. Actually Jon has a video comparing the turbo and non turbo CVTs and the non turbo climbed better. Subaru has to limit the torque multiplication on the converter for the turbo to protect it while the NA engine needs the help.
@@KTMcaptain makes sense. I was skeptical about the numbers and power too until driving the 23 outback wilderness. There’s noticeable turbo lag therefore it doesn’t hinder the slow and controlled climbing *or kick in. Overall, it’s surprisingly quick with plenty of oomph. Paddle shifting is a blast too… almost morphs into a five speed. The trade off between turbo and occasionally slow climbing with the NA is a non factor… turbo ftw imho.
I am very curious about the mile star at pro. I think I will put those on next. Now that we live in North Idaho I need more of a snow tire. Love that they are made in usa
They look good but only offer LT tires in E-range. Thats gonna ride poorly in a wrangle/bronco or awd.
@@MrPiimpslap i have load range e on all my vehicles. I love milestar but want to switch h from mt to at
That's a kick-ass lift
That's gonna sell great with the Wilderness folks.
I went to put the Mt back on my truck. But the tire store told me they went out of business.i can say they went great in snow
Imagine the capabilities of that thing with a dual range transmission swap....
Did you lower the front subframe, how is it treating the front axles?
Rest in peace to those cv axles.
Thats why they drop the sub-frame.
Does anyone know how subframe drop lift kits hold up long term with CV axles?
@@unknown-cf9rd alot better than ones with no subframe drop.
Riveting
Hey John, I followed that Subaru and I believe it was a RAV4 into the Expo event seems to me they said ADF on big stickers on the back. It was quite intriguing build. I didn’t catch up with it within the expo though to find out more.
We didn’t see you put the rock back
The rear sub drop looks like way more than 2 inch lol
Of course my ass is on my phone the entire time 😂
Why Ascent is so rare in overlanding community?
In terms of space, it offers so much more.
It’s funny they saw my video and wanted to beat me.. I’ve had 3.5” lift - full suspension and spacers for two years.. lol
Yeah cause you're the only person in the world who lifted yours until now? So with that logic, there are only 2 people in the world who have...you, and this guy. Lol
@@mikemosley77 I’ve had 3.5 on my wilderness for 2+ years. Considering I messaged them and spoke to him personally about building a control arm for me with a drop to incorporate my lift and 31s, yeah, I’ve personally spoke with numerous companies because unless I start fabricating stuff myself, it’s much more difficult to modify 2019+ Forrester, and/or find parts while keeping everything in line, with such massive modifications.
Thanks though
This guy that knows nothing.
@@Subie_OffXroad The Suburu Outback has been around since 1995. Any person without some significant mental illness would know that there have been many thousands of people who have made their own custom lift kits before you did. It's just common sense.
@@mikemosley77 you don’t listen. Outback and foresters are not the same. And a 96 isn’t even on the same chassis as a newer one. You aren’t smart nor do you know anything.
Custom lift kits on 20 year old cars. Again, your ignorance blinds you.
you ignore the fact that I spoke with Patrick personally to ask him to create me arms for a 3 1/2 inch lift to remove the camber issues. Find me a 2019+ Forrester with anything higher than 3 inches on it… I’ll wait. Bc you won’t.
Thanks for trying.
@@mikemosley77 it’s just literally what I asked for, and then a year later they have a complete fabricated build of a new outback from my pioneer prototype car essentially because I did it FIRST in my backyard/garage, unprofessional. Eat dick
But it's still a Subaru.
A chick car no matter what.
Yes, I know Jon.
Lmfao.... You actually typed that. Big pee pee man