I think this was a very good way to point out the fallacy of an all-knowing god. I never understood the Trinity either. Loved the punch line. I'm going to Patreon now to get my random unscpecified blessings.
+Pamela Faulkner Season 4 (I think) has a great episode about the trinity, that's what they were referencing. The Duality if I'm not mistaken. My all time favorite episode. I make friends watch on the regular.
2:59 LOL!!!! (Reminiscent of a Stormin'-Nornom Schwarzkopf/ Genie in A bottle / Middle East Peace / Boston Red Socks (Now Chicago Cubs) World Series Joke.)
Lucy called him El. The other half of the Abrahamic god. Yahweh is the sick bloodthirsty thunder gad. He was merged with El who is the grandfatherly diety who loves and dotes on its worshippers. That's why you get two impressions of the god of Abraham. The one that loves and cares for you when it's not torturing or killing you. Simple. Nothing weird there.
Thanks you for finally addressing the issue of having a relationship with an omniscient, omnipresent being. I never understood it when I was a christian, and ever since I've deconverted, I have seen it as utter nonsense.
@@cherkas009 It’s kinda implied with « me and the father are one », but admittedly it’s nowhere explicitly and it’s hard to not have the trinity, and have Jesus be the son of god literally, ‘cause without trinity that makes Christians polytheists. I mean, they are, obviously their loophole is nonsense and it doesn’t matter wether you call your god singular or not, if there are three entirely different and independent persona that are each called god then it’s polytheism, but at least they can deluded themselves into thinking they are monotheists, and not at all those other people with a singular deity that has so many personalities nobody sane would ever think of calling it monotheism (aka Hinduism).
I liked that line. Interesting, on a serious note, that's actually a great point. Knowledge does not necessarily imply understanding. So a deity who knows all would not necessarily understand all as well. They could, ostensibly, know every name of every person in history, recite every minute moment of their lives, but not understand _why_ they died.
This just goes to show the adherents to the Abrahamic religion(s) didn’t think this fantasy through either, just like they’ve never considered how impossibly long eternity is, especially if you have to suck up to a narcissistic deity 24/7.
Interesting, and received only passing mention, that when a deity is all knowing he/she also knows what he/she/it will do in the future, so in a real sense, are living scripted lives, or whatever they live. Anyway, when the future is knowable, even the gods don't have free will.
So if there is an all-knowing god, then there cannot be free will, right? Because this all-knowing god already knew EVERY decision that everyone would ever make in their entire lives--before the creation of the universe. If free will truly exists, then god cannot know what decision you will make at any given moment. If there is free will, then god is NOT all-knowing.
+Tom Fields Believers get around this by saying that God's knowledge of our future actions does not prevent our free will, because we still have a choice - but he just happens to know the outcome. I know it's not intuitive, but consider the following analogy: Say I construct a computer program that performs some tasks, and then at various intervals it generates a random number and based on that number decides to do one thing or the other. Given that it is inherently random, it is therefore not deterministic, right? But suppose you generated the exact same sequence of random numbers in advance, and then fed those into the system one by one. Exactly the same outcome, yet we had foreknowledge. Do you see the point? I personally still think the result is that free will is therefore only at best an illusion (if we allow complete foreknowledge), but theists will often still argue the point. For me the part that is not easily dismissed is that of God's free will, which this video explained very well. If God knows what *he* will do next, then he has no free will. Further, if God exists outside of time, then there is no sequence of events, meaning no movement (velocity = distance / time, so no time means no velocity, i.e. no movement). The video picked up on this as well. Theists say that God exists outside space and time purely because the idea of a god being inside space and time has been falsified. They think putting him outside space and time makes him unfalsifiable, but in fact it just makes him meaningless. It is incoherent. Anything completely outside space and time cannot exist. There is no space to exist in, and there is no time in which to be anything except motionless and static. He can't even be a concept, because a concept requires a physical brain to think it. I think that'll do - lol :)
@@geshtu1760 Apologies for the resurrection (heh) of this topic, but I just got here. A minor quibble: It is possible (likely even) that things outside space and time of _this_ universe do in fact exist. They just have no bearing whatsoever on _this_ universe or its physics, and as such as you mentioned, don't matter to this universe.
Behind every great Deity, there's a great Mrs. Deity. Well, in light of modern sensibilities, not behind, but in front of or beside...that didn't sound right either. OK, great work by the Deity couple! That omni stuff only seems to work in fantasy.
"He just found out I have my all-knowingness back on, and wanted to know if I finally understand the trinity" LMAO
I lost my shit when he said "Nope, still have no idea about the trinity." Ha! That was an amazing episode.
Such a great facial expressions, delightful and adorable. (Lucy's)
Seyton She was the best!!!
Oh, this is *FANTASTIC!* Great take-down of that "all-knowing, all-seeing, outside time & space" idiocy!
You slayed me with the last line of the sketch. I freaking LOVE your sense of humour, man. It gets me every time.
Mr Deity turns on his all-knowingness and STILL doesn't understand the trinity.🤣🤣🤣.
Seriously, I feel so much better now.
I wondered about that, but assumed he was saying that to avoid prolonging a conversation he didn’t want to have.
I have to admit, I thought the joke was a little tired, but then he really nailed the "I'm kidding, of course..." line at 03:01 and got me.
One of his best Uploads!
You enlighten, illustrate, and entertain me. Thank you so much!🤩
Oh My You! This is one of the best Mr. Deity episode you've done in ages. SO glad to see it! Thank you so much.
wow this was great episode
excellent as aways. I love the implication that nobody really knows what the triniti is :)
And the blooper at the end was cute.
That was fantastic! The last line was priceless.
That was AWESOME.
Instant classic! Rates up there with "Who's on First" even if it was more lopsided than a Socratic dialogue. Quite a feat!
Great episode. Thank you everyone at mr. Diety. You guys do great work
Lovely to see mr deity and Lucy returned. Love the show so much xoxoxo
One of the best in a long while, maybe ever. Wish I could give it more thumbs up.
We need more of these
This is so brilliant. You deserve your own channel on a major network. Or Netflix?
Anyways, thank-you so much. Amazing!
LMAO Ths is the best episode of the season or last season, by far. Kept laughing.
Superb. Just superb.
Yay Mister D!
This was great! Loved it!
Amazing episode, well performed and just as thought provoking as ever, bravo!
best episode so far.
Nice to see "Lucy" again. Great comic timing. אל is not too shabby either.
I think this was a very good way to point out the fallacy of an all-knowing god. I never understood the Trinity either. Loved the punch line. I'm going to Patreon now to get my random unscpecified blessings.
+Pamela Faulkner Season 4 (I think) has a great episode about the trinity, that's what they were referencing. The Duality if I'm not mistaken. My all time favorite episode. I make friends watch on the regular.
The Orange Menace is on the table already.
This one's one of your best yet!
Excellent. Back in the old groove.
Fantastic.. so smartm as always.. congratulations!!!
love it, love it, love it, love it :-)
What a great way to start my holiday weekend.
That was fantastic!
That was a great video!!
This was great!
Great to see another Mr. Deity. Hilarious, as always. Kudos.
Excellent episode!
Hahaha...needed this to pick me up today....thx
And thank you for the out-take at the end.
2:59 LOL!!!! (Reminiscent of a Stormin'-Nornom Schwarzkopf/ Genie in A bottle / Middle East Peace / Boston Red Socks (Now Chicago Cubs) World Series Joke.)
Love your work!
I bet this took a lot of takes. Great job!
Brilliantly executed!
Great episode.
That was great!
This needs a gag reel! :D
as a former catholic the trinity joke killed me
Brilliant!
This is some awesome shit!! 🙌
I almost choked to death at that last line on laughter...and a bite of my sandwich.
God. I love this show.
MrDeity is back and drama-free (just teasin ;) Great stuff!
Srsly, you should have a sitcom.
Well, I guess you already do, come to think of it.
MR. DIETY YOU SHOULD DO AN ALL SEEINGNESS VERSION: THINK OF ALL THE SMUT YOU COULD LOOK INTO
bravo!
The begisodes just keep getting better & better... but what's with all the stuff at the beginning?
I would think the deity would retain a little more of his recent memories a little while longer after turning off the all-knowingness
I literally laughed out loud at the joke about the trinity.
Thanksgiving is like Christmas but without the presents to bribe you to get along with your family.
Rockin' the hair like a boss! Also, great shirt.
Oh, and the video was fantastic. :) (Hi Lucy! Nice to see you again so soon.)
Great last line
Great!
Oh, I loved that final pun about that presidential candidate (I won’t name him here not to spoil it for anyone who hasn’t watched yet).
+RustyTube You mean Uncle Ronnie?
Lol
For the love of you, NEVER turn that know-it-all switch back on again!
well i save money already know the handshake and i still have some magic undies
Dear Mr. Deity: If Yahweh wore such beautiful shirts as you do, I just might worship him.
Lucy called him El. The other half of the Abrahamic god. Yahweh is the sick bloodthirsty thunder gad. He was merged with El who is the grandfatherly diety who loves and dotes on its worshippers. That's why you get two impressions of the god of Abraham. The one that loves and cares for you when it's not torturing or killing you. Simple. Nothing weird there.
I feel you're writing for Philosofy PhDs
Can we download that official ringtone?
loved the phone call from Jesus
Bravo!!!
Holy shit! Soon as I get some $ I am sending it!
Thanks you for finally addressing the issue of having a relationship with an omniscient, omnipresent being. I never understood it when I was a christian, and ever since I've deconverted, I have seen it as utter nonsense.
This reveals the stupidity of the Word brilliantly 😂
good work
Best one yet. Jesse'd be proud.
There's only one thing I love more then Mr. D ... That's Lucy ....
This was a gem!
Up there with a christians cant dance one.
I love Lucy!
Maybe the best one!
Best ever
Nice switcharoo
"I wanna make america great again!" OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH! GIT WRKD M8!
I find Lucifer (Lucy) to be the voice of beauty and reason.
I always thought of the three other characters as the heart (Larry), the brains (Lucy), and the body (Jesse/Jesus) of the show.
@@misterdeity Love the show and have watched most of the episodes. Very funny and insightful. 👍👍
2:33 Hey that's what happens in Dune!
That all Mormon stuff at the end?
All knowing, still doesn't understand the trinity.
Begs the question: Can an all powerful being make a concept so stupid, that he himself can't understand it? ;-o
Mind. Blown.
There's nothing to understand the Trinity is never once mentioned in the Bible
@@cherkas009 It’s kinda implied with « me and the father are one », but admittedly it’s nowhere explicitly and it’s hard to not have the trinity, and have Jesus be the son of god literally, ‘cause without trinity that makes Christians polytheists.
I mean, they are, obviously their loophole is nonsense and it doesn’t matter wether you call your god singular or not, if there are three entirely different and independent persona that are each called god then it’s polytheism, but at least they can deluded themselves into thinking they are monotheists, and not at all those other people with a singular deity that has so many personalities nobody sane would ever think of calling it monotheism (aka Hinduism).
I liked that line. Interesting, on a serious note, that's actually a great point. Knowledge does not necessarily imply understanding. So a deity who knows all would not necessarily understand all as well. They could, ostensibly, know every name of every person in history, recite every minute moment of their lives, but not understand _why_ they died.
This just goes to show the adherents to the Abrahamic religion(s) didn’t think this fantasy through either, just like they’ve never considered how impossibly long eternity is, especially if you have to suck up to a narcissistic deity 24/7.
So for $3.00 a month I'll get a random +1 to all my rolls? Excellent!
haha! thank you Mr. Deity. oh wow im only half way through the video xD what more could I ask for?
Interesting, and received only passing mention, that when a deity is all knowing he/she also knows what he/she/it will do in the future, so in a real sense, are living scripted lives, or whatever they live. Anyway, when the future is knowable, even the gods don't have free will.
So if there is an all-knowing god, then there cannot be free will, right? Because this all-knowing god already knew EVERY decision that everyone would ever make in their entire lives--before the creation of the universe. If free will truly exists, then god cannot know what decision you will make at any given moment. If there is free will, then god is NOT all-knowing.
+Tom Fields Believers get around this by saying that God's knowledge of our future actions does not prevent our free will, because we still have a choice - but he just happens to know the outcome. I know it's not intuitive, but consider the following analogy:
Say I construct a computer program that performs some tasks, and then at various intervals it generates a random number and based on that number decides to do one thing or the other. Given that it is inherently random, it is therefore not deterministic, right? But suppose you generated the exact same sequence of random numbers in advance, and then fed those into the system one by one. Exactly the same outcome, yet we had foreknowledge. Do you see the point?
I personally still think the result is that free will is therefore only at best an illusion (if we allow complete foreknowledge), but theists will often still argue the point.
For me the part that is not easily dismissed is that of God's free will, which this video explained very well. If God knows what *he* will do next, then he has no free will. Further, if God exists outside of time, then there is no sequence of events, meaning no movement (velocity = distance / time, so no time means no velocity, i.e. no movement). The video picked up on this as well.
Theists say that God exists outside space and time purely because the idea of a god being inside space and time has been falsified. They think putting him outside space and time makes him unfalsifiable, but in fact it just makes him meaningless. It is incoherent. Anything completely outside space and time cannot exist. There is no space to exist in, and there is no time in which to be anything except motionless and static. He can't even be a concept, because a concept requires a physical brain to think it.
I think that'll do - lol :)
@@geshtu1760 Apologies for the resurrection (heh) of this topic, but I just got here. A minor quibble: It is possible (likely even) that things outside space and time of _this_ universe do in fact exist. They just have no bearing whatsoever on _this_ universe or its physics, and as such as you mentioned, don't matter to this universe.
Uno de los mejórese!!!
Damned clever.
He knew you were going to say that.
BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!
Behind every great Deity, there's a great Mrs. Deity. Well, in light of modern sensibilities, not behind, but in front of or beside...that didn't sound right either. OK, great work by the Deity couple! That omni stuff only seems to work in fantasy.
6 people want Mr. Deity to keep his all-knowing-ness on. ;)
I love Lucy...
she'd make a great lucifer, im already signed up.
7:46.
2:50 - 2:59 genius
Great.
Thank god for atheism.
Amen