Tensions runs high over NYC's plan to tear down and rebuild 2 NYCHA complexes
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- The city says the tenants will be moved into new apartments and still pay the same rent, but that's not assuaging fears. CBS New York's Lisa Rozner reports.
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They are not doing this to help the tenant's. They are probably selling it to someone. Little by little, housing projects are being sold and there might not be anymore affordable housing anymore.
Once i heard Related is involved I know they are about prime properties I can say everywhere Related has a hand on is prime they keep like 5% under income but that's not right for a complex that is more that 80% under income. Here's a better solution start building in the playground then when completed watch how many aren't invited to stay while the reconstruction of the main buildings but all NYCHA Buildings are old I always believed in renovation within is better than tearing down and rebuilding
Yes, developers benefit from this.
NYC needs low income workers for the restaurant industry, also janitors, teachers aides, bus drivers (especially for public schools), bodega workers, etc. Don't forget asylum seekers need low income housing also.
@@DeeDee-lz8zx how about we switch places? How about my family lives in Manhattan and they get to commute?
@@DeeDee-lz8zxhaving too many low income job seekers only gonna bring job market value down. Supply and demand theory really go hand to hand in real life situation
All the buildings have been poorly maintained since they were built. Fully restoring the wiring, plumbing and heating would be much more expensive than a tear down and rebuild.
That said, I can understand peoples apprehensions about being relocated while this is done. They don't want to lose the location- and the city hasn't always been upfront with long term plans, and they can change.
This will be a test. If they follow though and bring all the folks back when this is done, it will be a blueprint for upgrading all NYCHA. Having a doorman would be a big help with security.
If they change course and people don't get to return, there will be riots if they attempt to tear down any other NYCHA building, so they have a lot to lose if they fail to keep their promises.
Ain't no doorman gonna be here for long.
Why is this such a sh!t show? Because it is run by the GOVERNMENT. The government overpays for everything. But so many people think we need more of it....
1.5 billion????? Come on this is to minimize the space for them so they can build
Affordable housing is not gonna be anywhere in manhattan when it’s all said and done, so did the residents think that they built that Hudson yards project for them?? What a joke nycha is The govt or someone needs to step in and oversee this organization smdh
The (city) government owns NYCHA.
Hoboken and Jersey City are also demolishing and rebuilding their public housing. Giving Section 8 vouchers, in lieu of public housing, is worthless as nationally over 60% of voucher holders can not find housing within HUD rental limits.
Sadly many bad residents in public housing made it bad for the good residents in public housing. Crime in my housing project has skyrocketed and now there is consideration to go to RAD housing.
Betances houses of the south Bronx is now managed by wave crest. Under RAD received funding and renovations were conducted and completed without any families moved out
Chelsea is no where near as bad as other PJs.
A new milestone in NYC's migrant crisis: There are now more asylum seekers living in city shelters than there are homeless New Yorkers. The tipping point took place Sunday, when 50,000 migrants were in the City's care, outnumbering the 49,700 local shelter residents.
I guess, that rebuilt houses will be a good place to live for Asylum Seekers. Today they are more important than homeless Americans, tomorrow they will be more important than current NYCHA residents.
There would be less crime that way.
Remember when people used to get deported? Pepperidge farm remembers
The end of affordable Public Housing begins.
Or the end of a lifetime entitlement….
@@zxception Or the end of stupid right-wing talking points from people that don't live in NYC.
All under the watch of left-wing Mayors and City Councils.
A door man for the projects. That’s not nycha. Chelsea is prime real estate and the city is selling out the middle class and people of low income. I have family there on 17th street and they were never given an opportunity to vote.
These poor people have to move in the homeless shelters. When finished property taxes skyrocketing and they to have to raise the rents. Realtor developers are not trusted. They’re looking for richest tenants. 90% NYC citizens have the right to protest to save their homes.
Once demolished, those tenants are not going to get the same rent. They are going to get a BIG rent hike!
Being built for the illegals
PUSH THE POOR AND WORKING CLASS OUT AND RAISE THE RENT AND GET RID OF LOW INCOME HOUSING THAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL IN MANHATTAN NYC
Not the goal of only Manhattan, but the goal of the entire New York City. GENTRIFICATION
If you have lived in NYC your whole life and failed to capitalize on the many, many, many, many opportunities to advance yourself economically - that is on you. Inlive how people live in the projects their whole lives and never get ahead. Meanwhile peoplw move here from 3rd world counties and own a home within 10 years. I wonder why that is.....
@@ralexander9495 you can’t speak on everyone experience sir what might work for you may not work for others race of people division still exist
@@ralexander9495 If those from 3rd world countries ..stay in their 3rd world countries. There would undoubtedly be more opportunities for American people whose forefathers paved the way. 🤔
@user-nb9dj3ky1r life is tough. 3 billion people don't have regular electricity. Hard for me to empathise with people who live in the financial capitol of the world and can't taise themselves up. Sorry.
It is ludicrous to think that the TA president made a decision for the residents, where many residents say that they didn't have a chance to vote😢 Privatization/RAD gives THEM the right to choose Demolition, bringing about displacement to hundreds if not thousands of residents. 😢😢
I find it funny that the development team has the token brotha out there answering questions from the news and the tenants.
Tenants are going to receive a brand new building with amenities and rent will be 30% of Income which is fair. The average rental price for a one-bedroom doorman unit in Manhattan is $5,214. The average rental price for a doorman two-bedroom unit is $7,495. Tenants with unpaid rent will not be invited back. This serves an easy way for NYCHA to displace tenants who DONT pay rent.
Lmao that's what I was thinking
11 Buildings to 5 Buildings is the primary concern, they view it as one step towards being ousted in the hopes of drawing in more luxurious tenants later, boil the frog slow, when a building is underdeveloped it is a lot harder to try to kick out low income tenants and or increase their rent, but if the building is modern and has more to offer it becomes a lot easier.
@@jacerivera7907 Nycha is owed hundreds of millions in rent. They’ll displace tenants who don’t pay rent, which is understandable.
@@jj093815 So they displace tenants and then cause an increase in crime? An increase in homelessness?
Sounds like a starting income of $85,000 after the reconstruction but that's one thing I can say everyone always promises once after reconstruction the tenants will move back in but during reconstruction and after all that is created is more homelessness
Breaking news: NOT EVERYONE HAS TO LIVE IN NYC! These people can move to other states. They are fighting so hard because they know in some level that they are getting the best deal that they will ever get in their lives, all at rhe ex0ense.of others.
@@ralexander9495 Breaking News you're a dik. Tell the elderly people with disabilities in those buildings that have been there for 40+ years that they can just move to another state. "I understand that the state gave you a deal but now we're just going to renig on that deal.".
Exactly my point, they hope that in the process of waiting for the buildings to be complete these individuals will up and leave. The company will then probably offer to buy their housing guarantee so they can use that space for incoming white collar labor since the main issue keeping people from returning to office work is lack of affordable housing so what better strategy than to convert public housing into affordable white collar housing.
I won't be surprised if it's the old okie doke. Probably some tiny azz rooms when it comes back. Did the residents of Fort Greene ever move back in? 😢 Only 30% participated? I wonder how they conducted the survey.
Keep public housing public 🙏🏽
It was meant to be a temporary situation until people got back on their feet. It’s not a rent stabilized apartment
As a tax payer... because their rent is being paid by the tax payers. I approve.. these people were supposed to get on their feet a long time ago
Lots of families there or middle class working families. I have family in Fulton. And they’re not on welfare. People were able to make something of themselves because public housing existed.
@@seepokeeyes Says who?
@@DreamDimensions-hv4lg
The government that had them built. They were originally built to house military families during WW2 until they got repurposed.
I've always said they needed to rebuild those buildings but that it would be near impossible because where they gonna put the people? Most likely kick them out when it's done and charge like $3k for rent
This screams market rate housing.
It's not clear what they're complaining about if they're just making a lateral move for the same rent. It's just a building.
because most of them probably dont pay rent
@@FTW54 lol actually I have family in Fulton houses. They’re doorman maintenance workers, union members cooks and many who work in the service industry. Serving this city. Yea they pay rent
@@williamginorio yes im sure every single person there pays 100% of the rent always - because you said so on youtube. Tell your "family" in that building to stop voting by skin color or that little D next to someones name if they dont want to be replaced by migrants and want stable housing.
If the rules stay the same and there's no sneaky business in terms of keeping your affordable housing then I don't see a problem with new buildings being built for our safety
But that's the thing, there is always sneaky business going on...
Easton PA demolished their crime ridden public housing on the south side of town. In its place they built single family and attached homes that were for sale only to low and moderate income families - no more rentals. Crime has greatly decreased in that area in part because people who were displaced from the projects could not afford to buy the homes. Not everyone in public housing is a criminal, sadly the bad people ruined it for the good people.
Most people in those projects are lazy. Those women are fat and lazy.
Fulton houses doesn’t have a big crime rate. My family lives there.
Unbelievable
This city has the most freeloaders per capita & per square foot than any city in the world ✌🏾
Freeloading how?
When renters outnumber the owners this is what happens
JUST TWO
Wait, so they are going to build back the same number of below-market rate units for the current residents PLUS 3,500 more homes? That's a huge win. The current residents get a modern upgrade and 3,500 more families can live in this area. Market rate units are not a bad thing if it means more housing. In fact, the mixing of social classes is beneficial for society.
You’re thinking about it logically. Unfortunately most people don’t think that way.
@@strandednyer7209 Carpetbagger? I'm not running for office there. They are preserving all the public housing units, so what is the problem?
When you have been given handouts and public entitlements all your life, being slightly inconvenienced feels like an assault.
@@hejiranyc
Exactly.
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I would like to hear how people think its possible to renovate a building even if its empty. It would be impossible with people still living there. WOuld they enjoy the noise? Who would secure the material to prevent it from being stolen? Also, why should anyone care what they think if the tax payers are paying over half the rent to house them?
They want 4 star accommodations at 40 year old prices.
Very possible. They just did it to betances houses in the Bronx. Wave Crest. And it’s still adorable
Nycha section 9 has more security for us then section 8 private developers we are fade with the construction of our building fire proof hurricane we had with sandy and the high risers apartments were destroyed and they want to move us with building badly made Sheetrock reinforced 4 times over so if the apartment get burn less then 3 hours without a working sprinkler is unsafe for anyone. Renovation from federal funds we should get. We don’t need to be toss down out of our paid apartments from hard working citizens
Anyway tenants association don’t make decision for tenants that pay rent anyway the tenants association doesn’t allow tenants in office and they make their own decisions for the tenants the tenants association should be eliminated if they don’t go with the rules applied
Ergonomics applied for everyone for safe buildings for all of us whether is commercial or residential buildings
Don’t believe it, y’all!!!
The people who build the Hudson yards where the rich live. Sure they let them move back
Tear them down and rebuild better and safer buildings.
You do know what gentrification is right?
@@melvinanderson-xu9ljyou need gentrification to curb crime
Not really, it will be smaller apartment's with stupid rules and regulations.
@@orangecat5036 Lol stupid rules like no convicts allowed.
@@stache1954 Convicts can exist in any community.
LEAVE THESE HOUSING PROJECTS ALONE 😡
This is the beginning of gentrification of the projects.
As Pookie and RayRay have served their purpose and their services are no longer needed.
landlords should go broke
Careful what you wish for.
@@ralexander9495 - not likely going to happen. So greedy bastards go to should hell might be better. In 2007 / 2008 they came out with more cash in a crashing market. Plus they got stimulus check extras during 2020-21 COVID pandemic.
Like the NYCHA?
This is good cost is guna bring jobs and yaaaaa guna move back when day finish ....
Making Room for Migrants...
People really need to start going to those meetings
Yesterday many of the handicap residents who happened to be seniors we're not able to come down to that rally because no elevators were working. Also two of the buildings are seniors. When they are displaced then what?
You mean college, and then work.
The people that don't pay rent will be evicted. That's why they're upset.
Not true..they pay like $400....and get PARKING SPOTS. IN LOWER MANHATTAN!!!!!!!
And you should see some of the cars they drive. They're brand spanking new!
@@ralexander9495 lol@that capitalization. Yeah, it seems crazy but those PJs and parking were built long before the city became as dense as it is now.
Don’t even bother. They are just gonna end up destroying them.
Why keep putting a bandaid on a big wound? Tear them down!
The residents getting a new apartment, why complain? They DO NOT own it.
They think project as a rent stabilized apt
Genification
Yes they need new buildings they can’t be fixed many of them lead rat infestation ect so I see their fears they get new buildings then pushed somewhere else I don’t trust these developers either what a sticky situation you would have to get great fen lawyers
They don't want Fix and patch landlord special edition. They want new internal structure with same old rent price without the hassle of noise and dust debris headache
I commute to manhattan everyday because I can’t afford here but yet some get to stay there for free
Just turn the buildings into co-ops allow the residents to buy and own their apartments
I'd be down there buying the rights LOL
Even if you own it , the maintenance fee always higher than their current rent under $1000
@@chapter1762 Housing Development Fund Corporations (HDFCs) are housing cooperatives established in New York City with the purpose of providing affordable housing to low-income individuals. These cooperatives are collectively owned and operated by their residents, who are known as "shareholders." Through democratic elections held annually, the shareholders choose a board to govern the cooperative and collectively make decisions regarding expenses, energy requirements, and roles within the building.
Instead of traditional rent payments, HDFC shareholders contribute a monthly maintenance fee, which supports the day-to-day operations of the building. HDFCs primarily serve as homes for people of color, often led by women of color. These cooperative housing models present a decommodified and community-controlled approach, highlighting the importance of resident participation and a sense of shared ownership.
@@chapter1762 In cases where HDFC shareholders are unable to afford their maintenance fees, they do have the option to lease or sell their unit. This provides an opportunity for shareholders to alleviate their financial burden. It's worth noting that in the Chelsea area, the average rent stands at approximately $5,584. This information may serve as a reference point for individuals considering leasing or selling their unit within the HDFC cooperative.
Nothing like people bitching about free stuff. Absolutely hilarious they are complaining but no body is willing to move.
It's scumbag trap
No demolition
LoL
Most of the ungrateful chronic complainers can't even speakEnglish
😂😂😂
said a dude from a trailer park prolly
@@im.frankk3394Immigrants don't belong here
@@orderinchaos85
Nah I'm in a new high-rise.
In bed
Right here beside yourMom
.. you want to talk to her?
@@orderinchaos85
Or from your mother's bedroom idk🤷♂️
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Migrants new homes
The people do not understand they do not own these buildings the city own them and they can do whatever they want. They are renting and do not have a right to life time apartments. It should be, temporary shelter for 3 to 5 years to get yourself together and find permanent shelter for you and your family.
If they are giving out free stuff it creates a frenzy and they expect their free stuff forever. Don't mess with the gravy train.
Exactly.
Oh the entitlement
They want to make it to a taller building for they can add more people for they can kill each other faster in their
Tear down - yes. Rebuild - no. Plenty of affordable housing elsewhere in the country. Why is it my responsibility to support these people for life?
Put a sock in it. I pay taxes too and so do they. I have family there who work hard. Doorman porters hard working individuals. Locations like that are essential for working class families.
@bull419 you think the amount you pay covers the actual cost of your unit? I guess you haven't heard that NYCHA hets BILLIONS in funding from taxpayer every year. My city and state income taxes are about $55,000 AYEAR. YES, i am paying your rent
@@williamginorio pay taxes..yes. pay your fair share (city budget divided by 8.5 million) - I would bet $100 you do not.
if it costs more to repair than demolish then the solution should be demolish
lol they’re trying to steal your land, imaging going from 3 bedroom apartment to a closet 😮, anyways residents should have a 30 years limit living in NYCHA
They got cockroaches guarding their drugs and money in the walls. Dont tear it down man!! 😂