Remember, if you can clear Shiyu with an S-Rank even a full tank Zhu Yuan is viable. What are your impressions on Burnice so far? Which teams are you playing her in? DISCORD ► discord.com/invite/Bv5DEewwxF
I used your beta guide to pre-farm Burnice for the Crit-AP hybrid as I wanted a MonoFire team to accompany my other element teams for shiyu and don't have Soldier 11, and nevermind how lucky I got on my pulls to get both Burnice and R2 on her signature weapon, I've honestly really enjoyed how it's played out. I used 4pc Inferno + 2pc Woodpecker at your recommendation with CritDmg/Atk/Atk (couldn't get fire damage bonus in time :( ), and followed your breakpoints for that, however I think I've done something kind of smart as I also started keeping spare disks on an Agent I don't use and have a 2pc Chaos Jazz to replace the 2pc Woodpecker for a sort of Soft Disorder build. With one of those being a slot 6 disk, I have replacement 4 + 6 disks to swap to Anomaly Prof - Anomaly Mastery for if I want to full dive into the Disorder build in the future. It felt like a solid middle ground as it was still potent for a few clears where the Fire-Phys weakness was present, and I also finished up Ambush Node with it. Slightly unrelated as well because I think this is more due to the Fire Resonia in it, but I saved a 79 Fire-focused resonia build for Inferno Reap, and immediately tied my pb of 153mil with this Soft Disorder Built Burnice with Jane/Lucy, after not being able to get a second good run with Jane/Seth/Lucy over the past 2 patches. Skill issue? maybe. All that to say, thank you for the crit burnice math and recommendations! It has fit my desires for my account and gives me a reason to use Koleda again, which I enjoy dearly regardless of how good or optimal it is. Thank you as well for the post release followup, as I slowly build my account I will continue to keep your guides in mind!
I've still got semi-copium discs on her but leaning more toward AP and very happy with her performance on jane/lucy teams and also with lucy and ben/koleda. Nice to know I can mainly go for anomaly stats on her, but if I happen to get some crit substats or crit buffs from other sources they're not entirely going to waste.
I made a Crit-AP Burnice. Idk if this is good but I paired her (Lv50) with a lv 40 Piper and lv 45 Lucy and managed to clear the latest shiyu fight on 2m 43s (the electric big guy). Both Lucy and Piper are not even properly built but I was doing insane damage despite that.
i love the s11 burnice lucy monofire playstyle, very fun and fliud swaping around the 3 of them. But unfortunately on shiyu critical 7 even against THAT specific boss, WITH the extra buff the floor provides, the performance still doesn't felt great.
Even though a lot of people say that using an ER disc on Burnice isn't ideal, I personally find it comfortable. It allows me to play her without worrying about managing her energy.
if you run out of energy, you are taking too long to clear, which means you lack damage. having er on disc 6 just worsens your damage even more. i don't see how that solves anything. also, you can always ult on burnice for 50 heat.
The Energy Regen debate for me entirely depends on whether I'm playing a mode that starts with energy or not. If it does, I can't burn through her energy enough. If it doesn't, all the Swing Jazz in the world doesn't feel like enough. Why does Crit Burnice need to only be played in Mono fire/Soldier 11 carry? I understand it helps if the enemy weakness is fire, but beyond that what's the buff?
I've got 3272 Atk, 431 AP, and 153 AM on a 4pc Chaos and 2pc Inferno. Also running her signature w-engine. At this point, do I ; • have too much AP and not enough Atk? • or should I still look for Fire Dmg% (my Atk would drop down to 2800)? • swap out AP for Atk%?
Why do you wanna swap anything when your stats are perfectly fine? Swapping atk for fire damage is not even a 1% increase, use whichever disk has better substats. You're not even close to the point where AP starts falling off, just keep your stats as is and work on someone else lol
@@hua.. I mean. I'm already that far invested into the character, why not just min/max her along the way right? Haha. As for other characters, you're right. I'm also building other characters alongside her. I just somehow got incredibly lucky on discs that fit Burnice. I'll probably use a tuning calibrator to get that Fire Dmg%.
Swapping the fire disk depends on what other damage bonus multipliers you have as they are additive with each other. If you have none which it wont because of sig engine and disk drives (including from other characters) it'll be like a 10% increase but as hua says that can degrade as far as being only a 1% damage increase. At your current amount of AP and ATK Ap is still technically better (crits stats amusingly may make the difference but lets ignore those) but they are so close for overall damage that I wouldn't sweat it. I also would advise you don't go to much harder into Burnice unless you are putting this level of investment into every character you pull (and have no characters you want to pull on the horizon)
I like her lots. I’m playing a Crit build with her and she feels fine~. I’m using Koleda and Lucy with her. Also luck was on my side and I got her W-Engine in 20 pulls. Now I save for Lighter because I’m guaranteed (I got Solider 11 right after Burnice).
I have been clearing everything with burnice, lucy, piper.. i never ran out energy in Shiyuu def. And really good chunk of dmg comes from piper and the disorder. Ofc I always hv to keep it mind to trigger disorder by only and only piper. Otherwise disorder will deall po po dmg 😂
I love Burnice's design so I would have pulled for her anyway and she is certainly strong in a Jane/Burnice/Lucy Team, but she is a "win more" currently if you combine her with a good anomaly carry - while Disorder does great damage and her afterburn, specced into 300 anomaly and the rest attack and fire damage is good damage, it can be argued a second support wouldn't be that much worse. Another reason to pull for her is also Lucy/Nicole, which I got both to m6 because of the banner. But if she wasn't hot and Hoyo would still like to entice me to get her as a limited S-Rank agent, I actually think she should be buffed so she is a bit more unique and synergistic. For example add to her team buff that is triggered by being in the right team composition, that as long as afterburn is on the target, any anomaly build up by squad members is also increased by 15% and the disorder damage is increased by 15%.
@@ThorsShadow It seems that Yanagi is an on field dps, which is great - but also having a massive disorder buff is kinda weird for the on fielder imo, shouldn't the sub-dps support be the one that provides those buffs? That's what I mean.
@@minyaw1234If someone like Burnice had a 400% disorder buff it would have been busted. The whole thing with Yanagi is being opposed to Jane, with her huge assault procs on their own, while Yanagi blowing even bigger disorder procs with the help of another anomaly character that doesn't consume much time on field(Burnice). And don't forget about Burnice kit - her ultimate being the most unique in the game so far and having the most synergy with any other anomaly character there are and those coming in future patches. If Yanagi didn't have that 400% disorder multiplier dmg bonus, she wouldn't have been as nearly worth her pulls as Jane or Burnice.
@@Drongo_drongo I'm not saying it shouldn't be. It's pretty much set in stone anyway. But Burnice's ulti will lose some relevance once everyone can do their ultimate, it will still be nice but not as good like at a time when only one agent can ulti. Also I don't think that future sub-anomaly dps will not have disorder buffs or other team buffs, and that's I think where burnice is lacking.
@@minyaw1234 I don't know about sub-dps, but I am sure, that we will get some kind of support, that will give buffs to anomaly teams (Seth, but much better).
I randomly got a second Burnice in 7 pulls, does that change her build at all? i'm using her weapon, with the 4-piece chaos and 2 piece freedom, 4th slot is atk, 5 is pen and 6 is anomaly mastery She's LV 57, has 3073 ATK and 261 AP, i use her with Lucy and Piper
I've been looking for a video that finally dives into using a stunner instead of S11 since I've been running Qingyi to great effect. I've been having a lot more fun with crit Burnice if only because Jane and Burnice is just frankly overkill for most of the content we have in the game already LMAO. It's refreshing that a hypercarry Burnice is not only possible, but more than viable. Crit Burnice also does hypercarry better than Soldier 11 literal dogshit standard unit don't @ me.
I play Caesar/Lucy/Burnice at moment, with slot 4 and 5 being AP and ATK% in all girls,and I have two questions: 1 - Is very bad 6 slot impact for Burnice or Lucy? Cause I dont have energy issues until now 2 - When use Burnice ult, better chain Caesar or Lucy? Thx a lot, and sorry for my english mistakes (not my native language)
1- For Burnice using ATK% in slot 6 or even AM is the way to go. Do not use Impact in Slot 6 on her, that is not worth it. For Lucy, you could run Impact, but personally I prefer ATK% much more on her. ER is not needed on both units either (IMO). 2 - If your Lucy is built for damage, Lucy. Otherwise Caesar
I have piper and burnice and want to go for disorder build, for support who is better m4 lucy(trying to get more mindscapes but no pulls left) or m1+sig weapon rina (i dont have grace😢)
i only have m4 Lucy but my times with her are always slightly better than with rina m1 even running 50% pen on burnice already. Lucy is just good with Burnice since both her and on field attacker are getting 600atk +10% with sig
Ok so, apparently I've been told with my m2w1 Burnice, m1w1 Rina and m0 Grace I could go for a full pen build (both Grace and Burnice would reach up to 90% pen). Now I've been told this is insane and I'm guessing this also sticks to the disorder build. However, I didn't get to do too much dmg to the enemies yet. Perhaps it's because I have the skills and levels too low? Grace is 50, Rina is 40, none of them have maxed out skills. I'm hoping that's it, oherwise I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do. I also don't have Soldier 11, but I have Qingiy and Koleda (I really like Qingiy and I currently have no use for her actually). Is there any use I could make of Qingiy actually?
Yes, stacking pen is really really good, but it only matters against high level, high defense enemies (so usually bosses) and yes, your units should be lv60, well I guess Rina can be Lv55
In a koleda, lucy, crit burnice team she is the main DPS, but she doesnt take the field much outside the stun window. So it depends on your understanding of main dps. If you mean her being on-field most of the time; I don't think that is too great.
@@iamrivenous What I mean is, how do you compare S11 Koleda Lucy vs Burnice Koleda Lucy in terms of team damage. Does she just outperform S11 by herself? This is what I'm running in Shiyu and its doing pretty well, since I don't have any S rank dps units
Is it tacitly accepted that Jane is the main damage dealer here in these Disorder teams? Piper replaces her if no Jane with the other third position Disorder agents, correct?
Jane is the main damage dealer in a Burnice/Jane team...a team that will trigger disorder often for a dps bump. Jane still does a huge amount of the lifting in that combination even with the disorder procs though so if you are triggering disorder every 3 seconds it is TECHNICALLY a disorder team but its not the level of optimal it could be Edit: And yes you would probably then use Piper if you want to play Burnice on an anomaly team currently. Id really like to see if anyone is doing a Brunice, Grace, rina team though
If you want to see the world burn and dont care for fire anomaly, then give burnice the 50% ER craftable stun A-rank weapon that looks like a hotpot. Thats +50% not +0.5 so you get a lot more energy then you think since burnice is energy on the passive which counts as base energy regen.
I might switch to crit burnice, because disorder is hard af to play, and I'm so used to having a stunner with my Billy/Anby/Nicole team... sigh Burnice is fun to play, disorder is not, like super unfun. Whenever I'm holding EX on Piper or Burnice, it's like the entire world wants to slam dunk on you... ig I'm just a noob. Idk. Slight regret just because disorder is hard to play, maybe crit will fix her playstyle...
disorder isn't hard to play, piper is just ass, you only hold ex for a couple of seconds on burnice and she has invincibility frames during the start and end of the animation, there's no reason why you should get hit while doing it
that's more a piper problem than disorder problem. Jane is a lot more comfortable to dps with and burnice is mostly in invulnerable or damage reduction attacks for her field time
@@russellpierce3987 I see other CC plays piper/burnice/lucy so well though... ig it's a me problem then, will try to play better x.x Also I still don't understand how Ando's burnice disorder is hitting 700-900k+ with W5 weeping gemini, while other players with sig is only hitting 300k+, mine is hitting 200k+ only... in Shiyu Critical 7
Don't complain about a subject if you keep making videos on that subject. Your audience is your privilege, and to forget that is to fail as a RUclipsr. I say this because I appreciate your videos but that can change.
Oh, I agree. I am very grateful for everyone who watches and I would never forget that! It just feels a bit infuriating if you clearly state that AP is better than crit, unless you play in mono fire, and mono fire teams are much worse than disorder teams, just for people to comment "saying crit is better than ap is troll". Well yes, it is, I just literally said that in the video 😂 It can also be my delivery of course, but unless someone tells me that is the case, it has been very obvious to me at least.
@@iamrivenousI believe it has to do with communicating the reasons for it being so. Regardless, it's free content to talk about a subject that people find interesting. This is an opportunity and not necessarily a bad thing.
@@iamrivenous You confusing me now, wtf, lol. AP is better for specifically for Disorder teams, correct? This includes either Piper or Jane as your second and either Lucy or Seth as your third, no?
Yes AP is better for Disorder teams. Every 3rd agent (Support/ stunner/ Defender) that has the same element as one of the anomaly agents should have AP in a Disorder focused Team. If that's not the case, for example in a Yanagi, Burnice, Caesar team, you can give Caesor crit-rate% instead of AP.@@awilywolf
The post nut clarity analysis. Coz let's face it, we rolled for Burnice because HORNY. It didnt matter if we could properly use her or not, our nether regions overpowered our brain and did something against our better judgement. And if you are like me, you lost the 50-50 and are now experiencing post nut regret.
I was just hunting for the last Lucy's mindscape, not sure if I'd actually build her. I kinda like Soldier 11 style (I meant without Burnice, already have Soldier's team)
Remember, if you can clear Shiyu with an S-Rank even a full tank Zhu Yuan is viable. What are your impressions on Burnice so far? Which teams are you playing her in?
DISCORD ► discord.com/invite/Bv5DEewwxF
I've been playing her in the Burnice/Jane/Caesar comp. I don't neeeeeeed the Caesar shield, but it feels so comfy to have it. 😭
Crit build Burnice + M6 Lucy + Lighter is nice.
Love the post release analysis. The original guide was already amazing and this really adds to it. Great work!
Glad if you enjoyed!
I used your beta guide to pre-farm Burnice for the Crit-AP hybrid as I wanted a MonoFire team to accompany my other element teams for shiyu and don't have Soldier 11, and nevermind how lucky I got on my pulls to get both Burnice and R2 on her signature weapon, I've honestly really enjoyed how it's played out.
I used 4pc Inferno + 2pc Woodpecker at your recommendation with CritDmg/Atk/Atk (couldn't get fire damage bonus in time :( ), and followed your breakpoints for that, however I think I've done something kind of smart as I also started keeping spare disks on an Agent I don't use and have a 2pc Chaos Jazz to replace the 2pc Woodpecker for a sort of Soft Disorder build. With one of those being a slot 6 disk, I have replacement 4 + 6 disks to swap to Anomaly Prof - Anomaly Mastery for if I want to full dive into the Disorder build in the future. It felt like a solid middle ground as it was still potent for a few clears where the Fire-Phys weakness was present, and I also finished up Ambush Node with it.
Slightly unrelated as well because I think this is more due to the Fire Resonia in it, but I saved a 79 Fire-focused resonia build for Inferno Reap, and immediately tied my pb of 153mil with this Soft Disorder Built Burnice with Jane/Lucy, after not being able to get a second good run with Jane/Seth/Lucy over the past 2 patches. Skill issue? maybe.
All that to say, thank you for the crit burnice math and recommendations! It has fit my desires for my account and gives me a reason to use Koleda again, which I enjoy dearly regardless of how good or optimal it is. Thank you as well for the post release followup, as I slowly build my account I will continue to keep your guides in mind!
Another Crit Burnice video FUCK YEAHHHHH
I've still got semi-copium discs on her but leaning more toward AP and very happy with her performance on jane/lucy teams and also with lucy and ben/koleda. Nice to know I can mainly go for anomaly stats on her, but if I happen to get some crit substats or crit buffs from other sources they're not entirely going to waste.
I made a Crit-AP Burnice. Idk if this is good but I paired her (Lv50) with a lv 40 Piper and lv 45 Lucy and managed to clear the latest shiyu fight on 2m 43s (the electric big guy). Both Lucy and Piper are not even properly built but I was doing insane damage despite that.
i love the s11 burnice lucy monofire playstyle, very fun and fliud swaping around the 3 of them. But unfortunately on shiyu critical 7 even against THAT specific boss, WITH the extra buff the floor provides, the performance still doesn't felt great.
I personally also had much better performance using qingyi or koleda instead of S11. Crit Burnice EX Special/Ult just completely melt enemies.
Even though a lot of people say that using an ER disc on Burnice isn't ideal, I personally find it comfortable. It allows me to play her without worrying about managing her energy.
Exactly, it's a great qol for more casual players
if you run out of energy, you are taking too long to clear, which means you lack damage. having er on disc 6 just worsens your damage even more. i don't see how that solves anything. also, you can always ult on burnice for 50 heat.
I lost my shiii multiple time trying to upkeep Rina’s buff daily 💆♀️💆♀️💆♀️
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at least for disorder team i only occasionally parry with burnice and that + 2pc swing jazz is enough for me to never basic with her for energy
love your guides! can I ask you to put some thumbnails when you show off weapons? English is not my main language so I don't know what their names are
The Energy Regen debate for me entirely depends on whether I'm playing a mode that starts with energy or not. If it does, I can't burn through her energy enough. If it doesn't, all the Swing Jazz in the world doesn't feel like enough.
Why does Crit Burnice need to only be played in Mono fire/Soldier 11 carry? I understand it helps if the enemy weakness is fire, but beyond that what's the buff?
would grace's m1 plus 2pc swing jazz bring her to 60 energy?
grace m0 already feels great with burnice
@@holandazzz ya but imtalking about something being discussed in the videeo regarding burnice's energy.
I've got 3272 Atk, 431 AP, and 153 AM on a 4pc Chaos and 2pc Inferno. Also running her signature w-engine.
At this point, do I ;
• have too much AP and not enough Atk?
• or should I still look for Fire Dmg% (my Atk would drop down to 2800)?
• swap out AP for Atk%?
Why do you wanna swap anything when your stats are perfectly fine? Swapping atk for fire damage is not even a 1% increase, use whichever disk has better substats. You're not even close to the point where AP starts falling off, just keep your stats as is and work on someone else lol
@@hua.. I mean. I'm already that far invested into the character, why not just min/max her along the way right? Haha.
As for other characters, you're right. I'm also building other characters alongside her. I just somehow got incredibly lucky on discs that fit Burnice.
I'll probably use a tuning calibrator to get that Fire Dmg%.
Swapping the fire disk depends on what other damage bonus multipliers you have as they are additive with each other. If you have none which it wont because of sig engine and disk drives (including from other characters) it'll be like a 10% increase but as hua says that can degrade as far as being only a 1% damage increase. At your current amount of AP and ATK Ap is still technically better (crits stats amusingly may make the difference but lets ignore those) but they are so close for overall damage that I wouldn't sweat it. I also would advise you don't go to much harder into Burnice unless you are putting this level of investment into every character you pull (and have no characters you want to pull on the horizon)
don't overthink when you have such good stats lol
I like her lots. I’m playing a Crit build with her and she feels fine~. I’m using Koleda and Lucy with her. Also luck was on my side and I got her W-Engine in 20 pulls. Now I save for Lighter because I’m guaranteed (I got Solider 11 right after Burnice).
I have been clearing everything with burnice, lucy, piper.. i never ran out energy in Shiyuu def. And really good chunk of dmg comes from piper and the disorder. Ofc I always hv to keep it mind to trigger disorder by only and only piper. Otherwise disorder will deall po po dmg 😂
I thought I saw the boars trigger afterburn several times while doing the disorder Bootcamp or do the boars do fire dmg too?
Boars do fire dmg too (the ones hailing from the sky)
@@iamrivenous
No boars were falling from the sky, and was too isolated to be a tick of burn dmg. Also my Lucy is not M6 yet
I love Burnice's design so I would have pulled for her anyway and she is certainly strong in a Jane/Burnice/Lucy Team, but she is a "win more" currently if you combine her with a good anomaly carry - while Disorder does great damage and her afterburn, specced into 300 anomaly and the rest attack and fire damage is good damage, it can be argued a second support wouldn't be that much worse. Another reason to pull for her is also Lucy/Nicole, which I got both to m6 because of the banner.
But if she wasn't hot and Hoyo would still like to entice me to get her as a limited S-Rank agent, I actually think she should be buffed so she is a bit more unique and synergistic.
For example add to her team buff that is triggered by being in the right team composition, that as long as afterburn is on the target, any anomaly build up by squad members is also increased by 15% and the disorder damage is increased by 15%.
Yanagi is probably company you are looking for, then. Burnice/Yanagi/Rina (or Lucy or Cesar or Seth or...) is probably gonna be THE Disorder team.
@@ThorsShadow It seems that Yanagi is an on field dps, which is great - but also having a massive disorder buff is kinda weird for the on fielder imo, shouldn't the sub-dps support be the one that provides those buffs? That's what I mean.
@@minyaw1234If someone like Burnice had a 400% disorder buff it would have been busted. The whole thing with Yanagi is being opposed to Jane, with her huge assault procs on their own, while Yanagi blowing even bigger disorder procs with the help of another anomaly character that doesn't consume much time on field(Burnice). And don't forget about Burnice kit - her ultimate being the most unique in the game so far and having the most synergy with any other anomaly character there are and those coming in future patches. If Yanagi didn't have that 400% disorder multiplier dmg bonus, she wouldn't have been as nearly worth her pulls as Jane or Burnice.
@@Drongo_drongo I'm not saying it shouldn't be. It's pretty much set in stone anyway. But Burnice's ulti will lose some relevance once everyone can do their ultimate, it will still be nice but not as good like at a time when only one agent can ulti.
Also I don't think that future sub-anomaly dps will not have disorder buffs or other team buffs, and that's I think where burnice is lacking.
@@minyaw1234 I don't know about sub-dps, but I am sure, that we will get some kind of support, that will give buffs to anomaly teams (Seth, but much better).
I randomly got a second Burnice in 7 pulls, does that change her build at all? i'm using her weapon, with the 4-piece chaos and 2 piece freedom, 4th slot is atk, 5 is pen and 6 is anomaly mastery
She's LV 57, has 3073 ATK and 261 AP, i use her with Lucy and Piper
In a Piper+Burnice team, which ult is the best use? Piper or Burnice's?
Whos the third member? IMO piper though excluding any third member
@@iamrivenous Lucy M6 is the 3rd member
I've been looking for a video that finally dives into using a stunner instead of S11 since I've been running Qingyi to great effect. I've been having a lot more fun with crit Burnice if only because Jane and Burnice is just frankly overkill for most of the content we have in the game already LMAO. It's refreshing that a hypercarry Burnice is not only possible, but more than viable.
Crit Burnice also does hypercarry better than Soldier 11 literal dogshit standard unit don't @ me.
I play Caesar/Lucy/Burnice at moment, with slot 4 and 5 being AP and ATK% in all girls,and I have two questions:
1 - Is very bad 6 slot impact for Burnice or Lucy? Cause I dont have energy issues until now
2 - When use Burnice ult, better chain Caesar or Lucy?
Thx a lot, and sorry for my english mistakes (not my native language)
1- For Burnice using ATK% in slot 6 or even AM is the way to go. Do not use Impact in Slot 6 on her, that is not worth it. For Lucy, you could run Impact, but personally I prefer ATK% much more on her. ER is not needed on both units either (IMO).
2 - If your Lucy is built for damage, Lucy. Otherwise Caesar
I have piper and burnice and want to go for disorder build, for support who is better m4 lucy(trying to get more mindscapes but no pulls left) or m1+sig weapon rina (i dont have grace😢)
i only have m4 Lucy but my times with her are always slightly better than with rina m1 even running 50% pen on burnice already. Lucy is just good with Burnice since both her and on field attacker are getting 600atk +10% with sig
Brooo, i need you to do Shorekeeper build in Wuthering Waves. Or you already stop play that game??
He stopped playing. Just converted into a hoyoshill for money. Sell out basically
@@Junowynxhu alright. thank you
Ok so, apparently I've been told with my m2w1 Burnice, m1w1 Rina and m0 Grace I could go for a full pen build (both Grace and Burnice would reach up to 90% pen). Now I've been told this is insane and I'm guessing this also sticks to the disorder build. However, I didn't get to do too much dmg to the enemies yet. Perhaps it's because I have the skills and levels too low? Grace is 50, Rina is 40, none of them have maxed out skills. I'm hoping that's it, oherwise I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do. I also don't have Soldier 11, but I have Qingiy and Koleda (I really like Qingiy and I currently have no use for her actually). Is there any use I could make of Qingiy actually?
Yes, stacking pen is really really good, but it only matters against high level, high defense enemies (so usually bosses) and yes, your units should be lv60, well I guess Rina can be Lv55
The gap in level between your characters and enemies really matters, so leveling up your characters is crucial.
For disorder build disc 6 atk or AM which better?
both fine, IMO ATK% is better.
how do you feel about main dps burnice with crit, vs running S11 in the same slot?
In a koleda, lucy, crit burnice team she is the main DPS, but she doesnt take the field much outside the stun window. So it depends on your understanding of main dps. If you mean her being on-field most of the time; I don't think that is too great.
@@iamrivenous What I mean is, how do you compare S11 Koleda Lucy vs Burnice Koleda Lucy in terms of team damage. Does she just outperform S11 by herself?
This is what I'm running in Shiyu and its doing pretty well, since I don't have any S rank dps units
Is it tacitly accepted that Jane is the main damage dealer here in these Disorder teams? Piper replaces her if no Jane with the other third position Disorder agents, correct?
Jane is the main damage dealer in a Burnice/Jane team...a team that will trigger disorder often for a dps bump. Jane still does a huge amount of the lifting in that combination even with the disorder procs though so if you are triggering disorder every 3 seconds it is TECHNICALLY a disorder team but its not the level of optimal it could be Edit: And yes you would probably then use Piper if you want to play Burnice on an anomaly team currently. Id really like to see if anyone is doing a Brunice, Grace, rina team though
Can’t enjoy her properly as she is my only anomaly, will see how when Yanagi drops
Hypercarry burnice can clear the hardest content in under a minute. Skill issue.
@@Forakus can Koleda, Brunice and Lucy do?
@@ByllionBucks for sure yes
Heat isn't even that important. Afterburner damage is almost negligible. Timing your ultimate can easily result in a dps loss.
Yo wtf ? I literally searched crit burnice. ?????
Truman show ??????
Join the crit-side, it is fun! :D
If you want to see the world burn and dont care for fire anomaly, then give burnice the 50% ER craftable stun A-rank weapon that looks like a hotpot. Thats +50% not +0.5 so you get a lot more energy then you think since burnice is energy on the passive which counts as base energy regen.
I might switch to crit burnice, because disorder is hard af to play, and I'm so used to having a stunner with my Billy/Anby/Nicole team... sigh
Burnice is fun to play, disorder is not, like super unfun. Whenever I'm holding EX on Piper or Burnice, it's like the entire world wants to slam dunk on you... ig I'm just a noob. Idk.
Slight regret just because disorder is hard to play, maybe crit will fix her playstyle...
disorder isn't hard to play, piper is just ass, you only hold ex for a couple of seconds on burnice and she has invincibility frames during the start and end of the animation, there's no reason why you should get hit while doing it
that's more a piper problem than disorder problem. Jane is a lot more comfortable to dps with and burnice is mostly in invulnerable or damage reduction attacks for her field time
@@russellpierce3987 I see other CC plays piper/burnice/lucy so well though... ig it's a me problem then, will try to play better x.x
Also I still don't understand how Ando's burnice disorder is hitting 700-900k+ with W5 weeping gemini, while other players with sig is only hitting 300k+, mine is hitting 200k+ only... in Shiyu Critical 7
For the last time, its “Burneece” not Burn-is. 😢😢😢
It's a made up name, you can make up the pronunciation as well
I pronounce her like Furnace, it's also how I understood her name in her own trailer. If it's wrong... idc 😂
Burnice barely does any of her dps off field, this video has to be a troll by saying Lucy is better... not to mention burn dilution.
Don't complain about a subject if you keep making videos on that subject. Your audience is your privilege, and to forget that is to fail as a RUclipsr. I say this because I appreciate your videos but that can change.
Oh, I agree. I am very grateful for everyone who watches and I would never forget that!
It just feels a bit infuriating if you clearly state that AP is better than crit, unless you play in mono fire, and mono fire teams are much worse than disorder teams, just for people to comment "saying crit is better than ap is troll". Well yes, it is, I just literally said that in the video 😂 It can also be my delivery of course, but unless someone tells me that is the case, it has been very obvious to me at least.
@@iamrivenousI believe it has to do with communicating the reasons for it being so. Regardless, it's free content to talk about a subject that people find interesting. This is an opportunity and not necessarily a bad thing.
@@iamrivenous You confusing me now, wtf, lol. AP is better for specifically for Disorder teams, correct? This includes either Piper or Jane as your second and either Lucy or Seth as your third, no?
Yes AP is better for Disorder teams. Every 3rd agent (Support/ stunner/ Defender) that has the same element as one of the anomaly agents should have AP in a Disorder focused Team. If that's not the case, for example in a Yanagi, Burnice, Caesar team, you can give Caesor crit-rate% instead of AP.@@awilywolf
The post nut clarity analysis.
Coz let's face it, we rolled for Burnice because HORNY.
It didnt matter if we could properly use her or not, our nether regions overpowered our brain and did something against our better judgement.
And if you are like me, you lost the 50-50 and are now experiencing post nut regret.
Not all of us are filthy degenerate
“we” 😂. search is free
Dude I just wanted to do some disorders nah 😅
I was just hunting for the last Lucy's mindscape, not sure if I'd actually build her. I kinda like Soldier 11 style
(I meant without Burnice, already have Soldier's team)
Nah that’s just you. I saved 120 pulls just for her and got her w-engine. I planned for her release.